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Posted on: November 9, 2009 10:45 PM, by Steinn Sigurðsson
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Comments
Thanks for posting this.
Posted by: Alex | November 10, 2009 12:20 AM
Wow. Two of my favorite things, together at last! Thanks for this!
Posted by: Dave C | November 10, 2009 1:28 AM
Wow. I have always been a huge Sigur Ros and Sagan fan. Sigur Ros' music almost feels like that's the kind of sentiment they're trying to express.
Thanks for the post!
Posted by: Jeremy | November 10, 2009 8:19 AM
fantastic
Posted by: ericg | November 10, 2009 2:26 PM
Very....very....cool.
Posted by: Pat Durrell | November 10, 2009 3:14 PM
"Pale-Blue-Dot" Astronomers:
Although Ptolemy thought the Sun revolved around the Earth, he also concluded the Earth should be treated as a mathematical point in the Universe. Now, since a mathematical point is infinitely smaller than a "pale blue dot," do we conclude that Ptolemy must be humbler and wiser than modern astronomers? Well, maybe I'm being nasty and objective, when I should be misty-eyed and subjective. I might be a candidate for sensitivity training.
Unlike "pale-blue-dot" astronomers, I don't try feel the pain of the robbed (nor do I try to feel the pleasure of the robbers). To pretend to know other peoples' pain is to belittle the pain of others. The parent's clear pain for a helpless child in pain can not be belittled; but if the parent and child had the same pain, they would both be helpless. Indeed, the parent would be useless.
From a comfortable armchair or a speaker's podium, all human trials (pains, pleasures, joys, loves, etc.) can only be reduced to a "pale blue dot" by pride. This is not insightful. This is the worst form of pride: taking pride from humility. Trying to synthesize people with their planet is called pantheism - not astronomy.
Reality demands a separation between people and their planets: people should be cherished and planets should be used. People that cherish planets tend to use people. Once a planet has served its function as a playpen or cradle for a developing people - it's dumped. Those individuals that have cherished the planet rather than the people will remain attached to the dumped planet.
The "pale-blue-dot" astronomers are wrong when they insist that there is "no hint" of help in the Universe. Some of them are now dead wrong.
Best Regards,
Frank Hatch
Posted by: Frank Hatch | December 13, 2009 10:05 PM
This is so powerful, but now it has been taken down. Any idea where it might still be hosted somewhere online?
Posted by: andy | May 8, 2011 11:44 PM