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Homicides in Kellermann’s study

Mary Woods wrote: Kellermann also used a control case study, limiting his cases to the following criteria; "Any death ruled a homicide was included, regardless of the method used. Assault related injuries that were not immediately fatal were included if...

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Homicides in Kellermann’s study

Category: Kellermann
Posted on: May 29, 2001 3:27 AM, by Tim Lambert

Mary Woods wrote:

Kellermann also used a control case study, limiting his cases to the following criteria; "Any death ruled a homicide was included, regardless of the method used. Assault related injuries that were not immediately fatal were included if death followed within three months." ( NEMJ vol.329, no.15, pg. 1084). Right there, that raised a red flag in my mind. If the case studies included deaths occurring three months after an assault, one has to question the validity of those cases. The questions that come to mind were; what were the cause of death for those who were assaulted? Were the deaths related to the initial assault or were they from other causes? These question were never answered in this article or any other that Dr. Kellermann published in the New England Journal of Medicine or other medical journals that he has written for.

The answer to the question is in the quotation from the paper. If the death was not related to the initial assault, it would not have been ruled a homicide.

David Friedman writes:

I have no strong opinion on the Kellerman study at this point, not having made a sufficient effort to untangle the arguments by both sides.

That doesn't seem to stop most people who post about it.

Incidently you can get the study (in pdf) and all of the data here

Most of the criticism of Kellermann's study available on the web is of truly dreadful quality.

The best available is by Gary Kleck: link

Steve Kangas has written a reasonable summary of the contrary position: link

But I think you are misreading the language you quote. There are two sentences, each of which describes a sufficient condition for including a death. The first is that it was ruled a homicide. That covers all homicides, however long it takes the victim to die; the words are "any death ruled a homicide." The second is that assault related injuries are included if death followed within three months. So those are cases that were not ruled homicides.

You are mistaken. The first sentence gives the general rule, the second clarifies the definition of homicide used. (That is, the death had to occur within three months for it to be counted as a homicide.) If you remain unconvinced, I suggest looking at the context of those two sentences. The study is clearly about homicides, not "homicides plus some other deaths"

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