Open Thread 58

Past time for more thread.


  1. #1 Fran Barlow
    February 19, 2011

    Ignore … this is a test …

    1. First item ordered list
    2. Second item ordered list

    Just to see if ordered lists format predictably at Deltoid

  2. #2 Jimmy Nightingale
    February 20, 2011

    I haven’t seen any coverage (other than gloating from the usual suspects) about Penny Sackett’s resignation from her role as Chief Scientist:

    The press release doesn’t really say too much and, in my view, is more telling for what it doesn’t say.

    Regardless, the decision for someone of her stature to resign halfway through her appointed term is not good. From her public comments to date, it seems pretty clear that she is disappointed at the lack of progress in addressing climate change. Perhaps she was a little naive in possibly thinking that a mandate (in the 2007 elections at least) and the urgency of the problem would over-ride political process or the efforts of the special interest groups who wish to preserve the status quo. I would have thought she would have been better placed to influence things in her role, rather than taking the high road (although I don’t blame her for doing so).

    All in all, it’s a very sad day, particularly for those of us who understand/accept the science underpinning climate change and can appreciate what the future holds in store for us. It basically means, in my view, that she holds no hope that either the current government (or the alternative) is ever going to do anything meaningful to address climate change. For Labor, it’s all smoke and mirrors stuff and not even very good smoke and mirrors stuff at that – the only ones they seem to be fooling are themselves.

    Hopefully I’m wrong and she just received a better job offer….

  3. #3 John
    February 20, 2011

    Apparently The Australian will publish anyone as long as you deny global warming and hate the ABC.

    If you fit the two into a single opinion piece you’re destined for publication.

  4. #4 SteveC
    February 22, 2011

    Apropos of Sir John Beddington’s exhortations to climate scientists to stop being so tolerant of misrepresentation, Gavin Schmidt has gone on the offensive.

    Judith Curry decides to wade straight into the mire with a post on Hiding the Decline (yes, that decline) and promptly shoots herself in the foot by flinging accusations of dishonesty at Mann, Briffa, Jones “et al” (implying, presumaly, other members of the RC crew).

    Gavin Schmidt calls Curry on this, saying:

    to ascribe a difference of opinion to dishonesty is to remove yourself from any sensible discussion on the topic. Perhaps if I was to find a graph in one of your papers which I thought didn’t show some aspect of the data I was interested in, and then accuse you of dishonesty? Would you react well to that? This is exactly the same. How can you claim to be building bridges, when you are so busy burning them?

    Go Gavin. Perhaps one of the few occasions it’s worth swallowing your distaste and dipping a foot into the Curry denier chum tank…

  5. #5 Vince whirlwind
    February 22, 2011

    Forget Curry, she blogs a load of nonsense.

    This is looking interesting:


  6. #6 Hank Roberts
    February 23, 2011

    Yay! Killfile is working with Firefox 4.0b11/Greasemonkey.
    And if you like it let the author know:

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