August 2013 Open thread

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  1. #1 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    Nope. You is wrong, old chap. Now, what you need to do instead of repeating lies is go and find the relevant quote.

    Simply lying about me without any substantiating evidence is a bit pointless.

    Oh, and please explain your remarks about clouds, the sun, radiation budgets etc. I’ve been waiting for something substantive out of you for what seems like weeks.

  2. #2 Boris
    August 15, 2013

    BBD, why do you lie now that your boss has fired you? Explain!

  3. #3 Lionel A
    August 15, 2013

    Booris @ #48

    Tolerance and decency as well as ethical and respectful behavior appear to be foreign words for AGW believers.

    Are you, Boris, accusing US of being unethical?

    Before you answer that you may like to reflect on the tale of Justin Lancaster v Fred Singer which is a window in to where language can get you into trouble. I provided a link to a part of this story up thread, hint Richard Lindzen and Rabett Run.

    Doing this you may actually learn a bit more about climate change and how the narrative has become distorted by the organs at which, it is clear, you feed information or more correctly noise.

  4. #4 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    BBD, why do you lie now that your boss has fired you? Explain!

    Produce the quote or stop lying Freddy.

  5. #5 Boris
    August 15, 2013

    BBD, there is enough evidence that you are a liar. You always lie when you open your mouth. This your character, liar. Maybe your parents have educated you to lie.

  6. #6 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    And please explain your remarks about clouds, the sun, radiation budgets etc. I’ve been waiting for something substantive out of you for what seems like weeks.

    You are going to run a mile, aren’t you, my little fraud?

    Do you seriously think you can fuck with me you idiot? I’ve been lied to by the best over the years and I can usually tell when it is happening. It is a useful skill.

  7. #7 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    Where’s the quote freddy? Where is it?

    Where is it?

    Where is it?

    Where is it?

    Come on, freddy. Once again, you are asserting things then refusing to back up your assertions when challenged. This will be because you are a lying sack of shit and a nutter, of course, but I still want that quote. I want it now, freddy. Right now.

  8. #8 Boris
    August 15, 2013

    BBD, you lied again. Provide evidence.

  9. #9 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    BBD, there is enough evidence that you are a liar. You always lie when you open your mouth. This your character, liar. Maybe your parents have educated you to lie.

    Where is the quote, freddy? You need to substantiate all this.

    Where is it, freddy?

    Where is it, freddy?

    Where is it, freddy?

    Where is it, freddy?

    Where is it, freddy?

    Come on, freddy.

  10. #10 Stu
    August 15, 2013

    So “Boris”, you admit you’re lying about BBD. You admit that you have no idea how climate works. You admit you are not a scientist. You admit you are a sockpuppet. You admit you are dumb as a sack of hammers. You admit you’re too fucking stupid to even troll properly.

    What is it like to wake up and realize you are you, “Boris”?

  11. #11 Marco
    August 15, 2013

    I see borisfreddykaitroll is slowly regressing into his former psychopathic rage. Having been exposed as a liar, he cannot but call the other a liar to try and steer the discussion away from his lies.

  12. #12 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    BBD, you lied again. Provide evidence.

    No, freddy – YOU made a false claim about me. YOU provide the evidence.

    Are you so fucking moronic you don’t understand the logic here?

    Quote, freddy. Now.

  13. #13 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    Marco – yes freddy’s coming back. It’s fascinating to watch, if unpleasant. There’s much drollery about people not taking their meds, but in this case I think we actually see this happening.

  14. #14 Boris
    August 15, 2013

    BBD, and don’t forget: I am scientist and you a nobody. Therefore you owe me due respect, layman. And don’t always lie that you not have been fired by your boss, liar.

  15. #15 Stu
    August 15, 2013

    “Boris”: the assumption is that you are lying about being a scientist. It is supported by every single moronic thing you’ve said on this thread. Until you prove otherwise, that subject is now closed.

    You are also lying about BBD. If not, you could simply provide a link as evidence. You don’t, because you can’t. That subject is now closed.

    Let’s get back to your genius. Have you written that paper yet that proves Mars is hotter than Venus?

  16. #16 Lionel A
    August 15, 2013

    Trying to bring a little sanity, albeit with ugly connotations, in here, a new post The inevitability of sea level rise has just appeared at Real Climate and The Conversation.

    There is little doubt that future generations, that could include you Booris as you are probably younger than some of us, are going to be in deep doo doo. Your toilet ain’t going to flush too well when sea level has risen.

    New Yorkers and others in the US NE coast learned something about this as well as many across the world when torrential rains caused flooding.

  17. #17 Boris
    Senior Scientist
    August 15, 2013

    At the moment I am working with my peers on a paoer for publication in the no. 1 journal in my field, you ill-mannered laymen.

  18. #18 Boris
    August 15, 2013

    BBD liar, I know why, where and when you have been fired by your boss. Liar!

  19. #19 Stu
    August 15, 2013

    “Boris”: the assumption is that you are lying about being a scientist. It is supported by every single moronic thing you’ve said on this thread. Until you prove otherwise, that subject is now closed.

    You are also lying about BBD. If not, you could simply provide a link as evidence. You don’t, because you can’t. That subject is now closed.

    Let’s get back to your genius. Have you written that paper yet that proves Mars is hotter than Venus?

  20. #20 Boris
    August 15, 2013

    Stu, you don’t close subjects in my presence, as I am superior to you layman in scientific hierarchy, it’s up to me to close subjects. Quod licet iovi, non licet bovi!

  21. #21 Boris
    August 15, 2013

    BBD, are you going to present testimony how often you have been fired because of poor performance in your life?

  22. #22 Boris
    August 15, 2013

    Lotharsson, your speculation about science theory is wrong. No wonder, as you are no scientist.

  23. #23 FrankD
    On a lower plane than someone who compares himself to a god.
    August 15, 2013

    At the moment I am working with my peers on a paoer for publication in the no. 1 journal in my field, you ill-mannered laymen.”

    I dunno, at the moment it looks like you’re wasting valuable research time flinging poop all over this thread.

    But maybe it’s your coffee break or something, O Oz, the Great and Powerful?

  24. #24 Stu
    August 15, 2013

    I love how on the one hand “Boris” already styled himself specifically as a climate scientist but now all of a sudden muddles it up with “the no. 1 journal in my field”.

    “Boris”, you’re a climate scientist, right? (Riiiight?) So “your field” is climate science, right? (Riiiiight?) Would it be too much of a giveaway to share with us, oh great one, what you consider to be the #1 climate science journal?

  25. #25 chek
    August 15, 2013

    So SeniorBoris’ boss fired him, eh?
    Puiblicly and humiliatingly too, taking the need to introduce and then project the subject into account.

    It can’t have been for being rational or consistent or publishing too many twin-ply science papers, surely?

  26. #26 Boris
    August 15, 2013

    FrankD, you are right, coffee break or other nature of breaks.

  27. #27 FrankD
    August 15, 2013

    You sure take a lot of breaks, bro’. Watch out, your boss might fire you…

  28. #28 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    Quote, you stupid shit.

    Quote.

    Where’s the quote where, according to you, I stated that I was fired for insubordination (from a subordinate position I didn’t have in fantasy-land where you reside)?

    The quote Boris. We can’t go any further without the quote, Boris/Freddy/Nutcase.

    We need that quote. Here, now, on screen in a comment we can all see.

    Quote, you maniac. Quote.

  29. #29 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    Stu, you don’t close subjects in my presence, as I am superior to you layman in scientific hierarchy, it’s up to me to close subjects. Quod licet iovi, non licet bovi!

    You aren’t a god and we are not cattle. You, however, are clearly insane.

  30. #30 FrankD
    August 15, 2013

    I’m with BBD, Dr Boris – as a Distinguished Published Senior Climate Research Scientist (I do hope I got your Very Important Title correct), you are naturally all about the evidence. So you just need to show BBD where he said that and we can move on to talking about your upcoming paper, which will no doubt rock.

    “What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.”- Christopher Hitchens.

  31. #31 Boris
    August 15, 2013

    FrankD, I am the boss, nobody can fire me.

  32. #32 chek
    August 15, 2013

    Stu, that’d be Climate Science Journal, the No.1 journal for climate scientists. Collect the first 180 issues and build the beautiful 1/12 scale FREE MODEL CLIMATE SCIENTIST using only a screwdriver (supplied).

    The journal allows you to build up and create a collection that over time supplies you with all the parts to build a stunning collection of climate science.

    Why not also check out the optional handsome hand-tooled leather-effect binders to keep your valuable journals in? Or our pine-effect storage shelf unit that will add that touch of class to any living room, study or kitchen.

  33. #33 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    Stealing from my bio again, fred-fred? Bit obvious.

    Maybe your parents have educated you to lie.

    No, they brought me up to respect the truth. What an unhinged thing to say.

  34. #34 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    Is it just me, or are we all getting a little tired of FreddyKaiBorisTroll?

    Does anyone know how to contact TL?

  35. #35 FrankD
    August 15, 2013

    “I am the boss”

    “What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.”- Christopher Hitchens.

  36. #36 FrankD
    August 15, 2013

    Stu – something from Beall’s list, surely?

  37. #37 Boris
    August 15, 2013

    BBD, I am disappointed about how stubbornly you lie about the well known fact, since you admitted it yourself, that your boss has fired you due to insubordination and bad behavior.

  38. #38 Boris
    August 15, 2013

    BBD, I know the E-mail address of Tim. Do you want me to forward a message to him that you whish to be banned?
    Answer, layman, but dont lie again!

  39. #39 Boris
    August 15, 2013

    One of the open question which has never been thorougly inestigated in climatology is, how surface temperatures would be if we had more shadow from trees.

  40. #40 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    BBD, I am disappointed about how stubbornly you lie about the well known fact, since you admitted it yourself, that your boss has fired you due to insubordination and bad behavior.

    But I made no such admission. You are lying.

    Quote, Freddy, quote.

  41. #41 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    I’m having a hard time believing my eyes here.

    Does someone know how to contact TL?

  42. #42 Boris
    August 15, 2013

    FrankD, you cannot state that you are the boss without lying, but I can say that I am the boss without lying.

  43. #43 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    FrankD, you cannot state that you are the boss without lying, but I can say that I am the boss without lying.

    Bored with Freddy.

  44. #44 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    I made no such admission. You are lying.

    Quote, Freddy, quote.

    The only thing you should be doing now is posting that quote.

  45. #45 Boris
    August 15, 2013

    BBD: “I’m having a hard time believing my eyes here. Does someone know how to contact TL?”

    BBD, I know the E-mail address of Tim. Do you want me to forward a message to him that you whish to be banned?
    Answer, layman, but dont lie again!

  46. #46 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    How do you know TL’s email address, Boris? Have you been hacking his blog?

  47. #47 Boris
    August 15, 2013

    BBD, crossing out text is childish. You demonstrate that you are no mature adult but a climate warmist who was fired due to insubordination by his boss. Should I inform Tim?

  48. #48 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    Freddy, I made no such admission. You are lying.

    Quote, Freddy, quote.

    The only thing you should be doing now is posting that quote.

  49. #49 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    Did you hack this blog, Freddy?

    Where’s my quote, Freddy?

  50. #50 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    Where is my quote, Freddy? And did you hack this blog Freddy? How else could you have TL’s contact details?

    Unless you are lying, of course. Are you lying, Freddy?

    Quote, Freddy.

  51. #51 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    Or did you get an email from TL when you were Freddy fucks & caps telling you to wind your neck in? Or even a ban, which you are now circumventing by the most obvious sock puppet I think I’ve ever seen?

    Is that how you got a contact for TL?

    Now, where is my quote, freddy? Where is it?

  52. #52 Boris
    August 15, 2013

    BBD troll, I have not hacked his blog, but I know his E-mail address from elsewhere and do not disclose my sources to you Deltoids. Should I inform him about your problems?

  53. #53 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    Liar.

    Again.

    Quote, Freddy, quote.

    The only thing you should be doing now is posting that quote.

  54. #54 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    Then do please tell us more about your… ideas about physical climatology. That is what we are waiting for, and we have waited long enough.

    Just get the little matter of that quote sorted out and we can proceed.

  55. #55 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    Should I inform him about your problems?

    Fred-fred, I would be delighted if you emailed TL drawing his attention to this thread.

    Please do so at once.

  56. #56 Lionel A
    August 15, 2013

    dot dot do
    dash dash dash
    dot dot dot

    or (for the very old i.e. probably dead)

    dash dot dash dot
    dash dash dot dash
    dash dot dot

    Let us not descend to the level of the imbecilic Boris.

  57. #57 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    I couldn’t. I’m not insane.

    -… — .-. . -.. / .– .. – …. / ..-. .-. . -.. -.. -.–

  58. #58 Boris
    August 15, 2013

    I have a lot of respect for Tim as he carries a very decent, honorable life as computer programming expert and teacher for his university students. I would not say that he is a scientist, but an formidable expert in Java and C programming.

    I have no indication whatsoever whether he is similarly insane with a CO2 warming obsession like all Dumbtoid warming idiots.

    BTW he has a very nice family whose members do not look at all mentally deranged like the BBDs, Stus, bills, cheks etc.

    I could very well imagine that he does not like you, as he is a true and sincere professional, completely unlike BBD who was fired by his boss due to insubordinstion and bad behavior.

  59. #59 Boris
    August 15, 2013

    BBD, I will tell you the quote (although you know it perfectly, you hypocrite) *after* you confirm that you *had* been fired by your boss due to insubordination and bad behavior.

  60. #60 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    For one point, students must identify the originator of the following quote. For the maximum two points, students should fill in the missing word:

    barbecue sausage [...]

  61. #61 Boris
    Senior Climatology Scientist
    August 15, 2013

    Our research group is currently active on the development of a computer model which compares surface temperature dependencies on global albedo changes due to changes in cloud cover and global tree shadow changes.

  62. #62 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    I would not say that he is a scientist, but an formidable expert in Java and C programming.

    TL’s skills extend further than that. Who was it who spotted the fatal flaw in McIntyre & McKittrick (2004)?

    TL is a bomb disposal expert.

  63. #63 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    Bit like clouds, really. Two sides. Canopy lowers albedo and increases surface warming. Lots of evidence that boreal forest growth toward the end of the last deglacial acted as a positive feedback increasing regional warming in the high NH.

  64. #65 chek
    August 15, 2013

    Turboblocke got it right a few days ago here.
    Choosing 1998 as his start year is very naughty of vS.
    Almost like he’s doing a Curry.

  65. #66 el gordo
    August 15, 2013

    G’day comrade Luke…. welcome.

  66. #67 Luke
    August 15, 2013

    But hardly a Bob Carter swiftie trend analysis – and confirmed independently by Lucia. I think we don’t know. Which ever way you cut it.

    Very soon none of the ensemble instantiations will model the observed behaviour.

    So what do you have – low climate sensitivity; aerosols; deep ocean heat (?!); hitherto unknown internal climate variability

  67. #68 chek
    August 15, 2013

    What you have, “comrade” Luke, is commonly called ‘playing to the peanut gallery’. Or, in the vernacular ‘fucking with statistical significance’ for the rubes who don’t know any better.

  68. #69 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    The troposphere ≠ the climate system.

    Climate basics #1.

    So… OHC. Can’t be bothered to link or go over the basics yet again.

  69. #70 chek
    August 15, 2013

    But it’s interesting that you’ve shown your preference for crank sites so soon. That saves a lot of time and effort. Thanks.

  70. #71 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    Luke

    Just think of it like this.

    (WRT the pretty picture your provide, I’d have gone for a Motörhead T. One from the early years with the original snaggletooth). That’s a great image to work with.

  71. #72 chek
    August 15, 2013

    Heh – good one BBD.
    They really haven’t a clue what they’re fucking with.

  72. #73 Stu
    August 15, 2013

    Wait, “Boris”, I’m still confused. Is it the spittle or are you drunk again?

    Judging from your deterioration, I vote drunk.

  73. #74 Stu
    August 15, 2013

    Wait, BBD, let me practice.

    “But there’s this measuring station in Poland that measures solar radiation and someone wrote a paper about it that I think says that warming is caused by the sun and what do you mean, lag and also sun is warm, clouds is cold, Mars is warmer than Venus”.

    Whatcha think.

  74. #75 BBD
    August 15, 2013
  75. #76 Stu
    August 15, 2013

    Also, what is it with denialists and being unaware of people being able to *shudder* SCROLL UP TO VERIFY WHAT WAS SAID?

  76. #77 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    That’s what I think.

    :-)

    Galileo was very strong on the basics. That’s why his telescope design worked so well. Others aren’t, which is why we need to make space for physical comedy, aka clowning.

  77. #78 Luke
    August 15, 2013

    Well what a bunch of smug creeps – so much for any ability to discuss. The desperate deep heat with massive error bars. Try harder. Much harder. The missing heat – fucking dream on.

    “They really haven’t a clue what they’re fucking with.” Do tell. So we’re fucking with the BIG BOYS now are we?

    You guys are Nova anti-universe – go full circle in extremism and you end up at the same place of turds.

    We’ll just add that to putrid practice of multi-model averaging – plus or minus 20% rainfall for Australia seems OK doesn’t it?

    Evap going up but it’s going down.

    Tropospheric hotspot missing in action.

    Abbott about to transfer Aussie climate science into the stone age and all you lot are doing are having a circle jerk.

  78. #79 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    Stu, I need to thank you for your kind offer of $100 of your own money to fund the desperate quest for The Missing Quote. Should have said this much earlier. This project needs funding! Please help. It could change everything.

  79. #80 Karen
    August 15, 2013

    #71 BBD, I dont believe the OHC data or these alarmist charts you keep trying to scare the co2 nuffies with.

    The sea surface temp hiatus is a problem for you, heat rises and this clearly is not happening,

    BBd, provide accurate temperature charts, for say 500 mtr intervals, from the sea floor to the sea surface for each major ocean, and ummm……for the last 2000 yrs should do.

  80. #81 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    OMG OHC!!!

    Look! It’s increasing doctor! What the hell can it be?

    [Representative of One World UN Cabal:] That’s energy, my child. [Mad chortle]

  81. #82 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    Luke

    The troposphere ≠ the climate system.

    Which is why the denial machine is turning its attention to OHC and plankton like karen are burbling away as per above.

  82. #83 chek
    August 15, 2013

    SpamKan and Luke can’t argue with the data, they don’t have any fossil fuel think-tank support for it just yet. But they try their best (which is of course far from adequate).

  83. #84 Karen
    August 15, 2013

    “SpamKan and Luke can’t argue with the data,”

    The data is sparse and unreliable.

  84. #85 Karen
    August 15, 2013

    “SpamKan and Luke can’t argue with the data,”

    Where is the quality temperature data for the ocean ?

  85. #86 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    In Levitus et al. (2012).

  86. #88 chek
    August 15, 2013

    Haven’t you been paying any attention for at least the past three months that you’ve been spamming your denier crap here, SpamKan?

    Time for you to read the threads and follow those links. And then admit you’ve got the big fat nothing you’ve always had.

  87. #89 chek
    August 15, 2013

    And the answer is … fucking crank blog.
    Of course, what else would SpamKan ever have.

  88. #90 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    Karen, what you are doing is pointless. Your opinion doesn’t overturn the decades of work by life-long professional oceanographers. Insinuating that these cantankerous and independent scientists are conspiring with other fields of geoscience to distort public policy is paranoid foolishness.

    They are all trying to prove each other wrong. That’s what scientists do. That’s why when they agree about something we can take them seriously.

  89. #91 Luke
    August 15, 2013

    Well what a bunch of non comments – El Gordo why do you bother with these kids. They’re clueless mate. Listen to the smug back slapping and inability to advance and argument. Death by quips. Refer to deniers. Appeal to authority – all the usual shit from people who don’t know.

    The problem is dough boys is that the CMIP5 models are FALSIFIED !

  90. #92 Karen
    August 15, 2013

    Show me the historical temp charts for the ocean BBd, I am not interested in the recent boogyman OHC.

  91. #93 chek
    August 15, 2013

    Odd how SpamKan’s now so rattled the trademark ‘lol’ is missing from the last few posts.
    Guess there’s not quite so much to laugh about now.

  92. #94 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    Well what a bunch of non comments – El Gordo why do you bother with these kids.

    You are projecting.

  93. #95 Karen
    August 15, 2013

    Hi, and welcome Luke :)

    My mother told me not to throw stones at retard’s,
    lol, thats probably why I do it here.

  94. #96 chek
    August 15, 2013

    The data is there, SpamKan, although what you denier fuckwits choose to ‘believe’ from any one moment to the next is a lottery nobody sane would bet on.

  95. #97 Karen
    August 15, 2013

    BBD, Chek ?????

    What ?? No links to SkEpTiCal SuCk HoLeS ?

  96. #98 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    Show me the historical temp charts for the ocean BBd, I am not interested in the recent boogyman OHC.

    Sea surface temperatures from 1880.

    More data to deny.

  97. #99 Karen
    August 15, 2013

    #98 BBD

    Not good enough

  98. #100 BBD
    August 15, 2013

    Karen, wake up. You are some buffoon on the internet. You quote other buffoons on the internet. This is not the road to truth.