October 2013 Open Thread

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  1. #1 Joe
    October 13, 2013

    jeff, cliwnshiw???

    Joe, If a vote into Deltoid, pretty well everybody would boot you off, simply because you are an ignorant, moronic idiot as your kindergarten-level comments show.

    I am sure all of your sock puppets have been banned. But if that is not the case, that can be remedied. Watch this space. Your time is running out here.

  2. #2 Joe
    October 13, 2013

    Jeff, wrong! Not my time is running out, but your time is running out as an elderly with a lot of extremely unhealthy habits! Believe your doctor!

  3. #3 chek
    October 13, 2013

    No Joe, you aren’t following. Try harder.
    Joe + clownshoe information + clownshoe experts + clownshoe websites = clownshoe.
    The maths are quite irrefutable.

  4. #4 rhwombat
    King Coal's Sphincter, NSW
    October 13, 2013

    chek@1#96:
    Joe=clownsock (mit einem wirklich schrecklichen Geruch).

  5. #5 bill
    October 13, 2013

    Ja, das stimmt!

  6. #6 Joe
    October 13, 2013

    rhwombat, bill

    you assholes try to speak swedish? How ridiculous, you untalented monolingual null performers.

    Mouth wide open, performance nil. That’s typical of the alarmist twerps.

  7. #7 Jeff Harvey
    October 13, 2013

    Joe is now displaying classic regression behavior to his old sock puppets. Lashing out with the usual childish smears. As I said Joe, I can get you booted off of this blog and its my intention t do so. Why do you think Karen, Luke, and your other socks disappeared suddenly? By magic?

    We’re asking you to bugger off on your own. But if you won’t, then we’ll get it done officially.

  8. #8 Jeff Harvey
    October 13, 2013

    By the way, Joe/Kai/Boris etc., the paper I referred to was published in Nature. I used to be an editor there. How many peer-reviewed papers have you published in your illustrious career?

    My guess is ZERO.

  9. #9 Chris O'Neill
    October 13, 2013

    Joe:

    Politicians are hence very eager to prevent people from thinking that the last 15 years of temperature stagnation have any significance

    i.e. they are eager to prevent people from believing a lie.

    The fact is that the last 15 years do not show a statistically significant change from the average rate of warming of the previous 24 years.

    Average rate of warming 1974-1998: 0.17 deg C/decade (Gistemp)
    2 sigma confidence interval 1998-present: 0.061±0.133 deg C/decade

    0.17 deg C/decade is within the 2 sigma confidence interval of the last 15 years.

    Therefore there is no statistically significant slowdown in warming in the last 15 years.

  10. #10 Lotharsson
    October 13, 2013

    Simply ignore Joe, don’t even bother with strikeout. In his case it’s more effective than pointing out the problems with his comments because he’s attention seeking, and any kind of attention will do.

  11. #11 Joe
    October 13, 2013

    Lotharsson alarmist: wrong!

    I do not seek attention! At least your attention, as I don’t like to talk to real idiots like you, BBD, bill, rhwombat and all the other overly narcisstic ignorants and wannabees without scientific background and substance. You blethers do only copy paste what your climate priests want you to ruminate over and over again: your utterly primitive message: it’s maybe getting warner and maybe we must swim in 1000s of years from now. Never in the whole history of mankind was there a more idiotic “scientific” prophecy than “it’s getting warmer”

    hahahahahaha, what a terrible threat, some tenths of a degree Celsius more than now due to unproven factors like “greenhouse gases” or other rubbish.

    Listen Lotharsson:
    YOU ARE SEEKING ATTENTION,YOU CLIMATE ARSEHOLES, BECAUSE YOU WANT TO IMPOVERISH THE PEOPLE.

    YOU SHOULD GET ARRESTED DUE TO HIGH TREASON, YOU UNSPEAKBLE ECO FUNDAMENTALIST STINKING ARSELICKS.

    YOUR TIME IS OVER. THIS BLOG WILL BE STOPPED. AND YOU PISS OFF NOW, IDIOTIC TWERP LOTHARSSON

  12. #12 Bernard J.
    October 13, 2013

    Nurse.

    NURSE!

  13. #13 Jeff Harvey
    October 13, 2013

    Yup, Joe is Berendaneke alright. He has resorted to form. Bernard is right – but we need nurses armed with straightjackets. I can get him booted out of here soon, no problem, but this guy is so utterly wacko that he will try and enter using another sock. Its true that he’s ranting to everyone and no-one, but its truly scary to know such deranged people exist.

  14. #14 Lionel A
    October 13, 2013

    Guiseppe doesn’t realise the irony of his claims that all we do is copy and paste. Where his irony meter fails is that it does not appreciate that unlike him we may copy and paste but with context.

    Another thing his mangel-wurzel brain cannot grasp is the reason why we do what we do – because the field is so vast, has so many interlinked factors covered via a multitude of scientific disciplines with a multitude of papers an order of magnitude greater than that of the fields themselves. BTW mangel-wurzel brain, by fields I do not indicate places where one could park cows.

  15. #16 Lionel A
    October 13, 2013

    Aargh! Banana fingers, gout, produced a spurious space inside an html link closing tag.

    Page 3 of the Executive Summary carries a link to a Fracking Informational Toolkit, which I have included here.

    Although this is designed for the US citizen in may well be of use to those in other lands where the fracking mania threatens to take hold. Indeed in the UK it may be of help in countering ‘The Madness of King George’ Osborne, the UK Chancellor of the Exchequer and all round member of the old boy network and an inside placeman for the socio-paths of banking, commerce and industry.

  16. #17 Lionel A
    October 13, 2013

    Groan,

    Page 3 of the Executive Summary carries a link to a Fracking Informational Toolkit, which I have included here.

  17. #18 Joe
    October 13, 2013

    Lionel A, you are not at all polyglot and don’t speak swedish, therefore your akward trials to elicit the impression as if you would dispose of more than your camp’s mean mainstream talents loooks just very ridiculous. You are unfortunately, like so many others in the warmist idicoy, of extremely limited talent in all dimensions. It’ just embarassing when such a low-performer like you behaves as if he would be something special. You are only a tiny completely unimportant asshole, full of lies, hatred, and evil morality, completely devoid of decent ethical standards. You are a real asshole.

  18. #19 Joe
    October 13, 2013

    Harvey, you dirty arselick: YOU WILL BE BANNED SOON

    Yup, Joe is Berendaneke alright. He has resorted to form. Bernard is right – but we need nurses armed with straightjackets. I can get him booted out of here soon, no problem, but this guy is so utterly wacko that he will try and enter using another sock. Its true that he’s ranting to everyone and no-one, but its truly scary to know such deranged people exist.

  19. #20 Joe
    October 13, 2013

    bill, your swedish is painstakingly akward. Please spare all of us from testimonies of your lacking talents, arsehole

  20. #21 BBD
    October 13, 2013

    Oh FFS.

  21. #22 Turboblocke
    France
    October 13, 2013

    Who’s trying to speak Swedish? The foreign language on this page at #4 and 5 is German.

  22. #23 Lionel A
    October 13, 2013

    Following the link to Climate Desperate at the Rabett’s place in The 97% Need To Strike Back I would like to borrow a bucket as I have filled all mine, and the bath-tub too.

    I have never looked in there before, what an asylum it is where even language is sickened with e.g. this gem – new word (?) highlighted, one has to scroll down the below Lindzen in the right hand pane after linking through Climate Depot home :

    CLIMATOLOGIST PATRICK J. MICHAELS & CHIP KNAPPENBERGER: ‘Had the IPCC been more interested in reflecting the actual science rather than in preserving a quickly crumbling consensus, its Fifth Assessment Report would have been a much kindler and gentler document’

    Jerk, jerk and jerk. Anyone for Heartland Jerky?

    Sorry if this is a repeat as the first vanished into a Service Unavailable.

  23. #24 Marco
    October 13, 2013

    I recommend people check the Stoat’s Burrow and look for “Freddy”. There’s some info there that may be of relevance to Tim. If Joe has the same IP (or same host), inquiring minds like to know that fact.

  24. #25 Joe
    October 13, 2013

    Marco, are you an agent of the IPCC climate police or just a nasty shamus?

    I recommend to Tim to investigate whether you and “Freddy” are sock puppets of an anonymous hysteric climate alarmist.

    In any case Tim should ban you ignorant asshole.

  25. #26 BBD
    October 13, 2013

    Marco

    There’s no doubt that “Joe” is Kai – Freddy – Boris – Berendanke etc.

    I suspect the problem for Tim is that our sock hydra is using proxy servers – now that it’s got easy enough for any script kiddie to do.

  26. #27 Joe
    October 13, 2013

    Marco, here is your insane idiocy:

    I recommend people check the Stoat’s Burrow and look for “Freddy”. There’s some info there that may be of relevance to Tim. If Joe has the same IP (or same host), inquiring minds like to know that fact.

  27. #28 Joe
    October 13, 2013

    BBD, and here is your shit:

    Marco

    There’s no doubt that “Joe” is Kai – Freddy – Boris – Berendanke etc.

    I suspect the problem for Tim is that our sock hydra is using proxy servers – now that it’s got easy enough for any script kiddie to do.

  28. #29 Joe
    October 13, 2013

    BBD, oh my god:

    “ip”, “proxy”, “host”, “script”, “dds” etc.

    You absolutely ignorant stinker arselick could not have shown better what an incredible full wooden post in IT you are, such an non-informed idiot you are, the same as in meteorology

  29. #30 bill
    October 13, 2013

    rhwombat, bill

    you assholes try to speak swedish? How ridiculous, you untalented monolingual null performers.

    Mouth wide open, performance nil. That’s typical of the alarmist twerps.

    bill, your swedish is painstakingly akward. Please spare all of us from testimonies of your lacking talents, arsehole

    Marco, are you an agent of the IPCC climate police or just a nasty shamus?

    I recommend to Tim to investigate whether you and “Freddy” are sock puppets of an anonymous hysteric climate alarmist.

    In any case Tim should ban you ignorant asshole.

    BBD, oh my god:

    “ip”, “proxy”, “host”, “script”, “dds” etc.

    You absolutely ignorant stinker arselick could not have shown better what an incredible full wooden post in IT you are, such an non-informed idiot you are, the same as in meteorology

    Deutsche, dummkopf!

  30. #31 BBD
    October 13, 2013

    Since you won’t go away, please explain why I am “absolutely ignorant stinker arselick”?

    These are the terms you think I have misused:

    “ip”, “proxy”, “host”, “script”, “dds” etc.

    What am I getting wrong here?

  31. #32 rhwombat
    King Coal's Sphincter, NSW
    October 14, 2013

    Warning. This blog contains traces of ClownSockTroll (AKA Kai, Freddy, Boris, Berendaneke & Joe).

  32. #33 rhwombat
    King Coal's Sphincter, NSW
    October 14, 2013

    ClownSockTroll Hunting by Scat Analysis. (or how to spend Sunday when it was too bloody hot to climb in October).

    Despite knowing that this will inflame the Narcissistic Personality Disordered (NPD) virtual pustule known as the ClownSockTroll (CST) to the point of bursting, it is interesting to do a Gogol-style google on the various manifestations of the CST.
    The underlying NPD, distinctive ‘style’, repetitive errors, fascist perspective, vehemence, humourlessness, affectations, resentment and neediness permeates his posts (it is, of course, male) and makes them readily identifiable through a trail of socks & servers. From Kai to Freddy to Berendaneke to Boris to Joe, the CST has used a trail of nyms to plague Deltoid (and a few more stringently moderated blogs) with the sneering contempt of a prepubescent tagger.
    Despite the similarities in attitude (and probably a shared pathology) the CST is not the “Olaf Koenders” who’s stuffed head was left up for RC’s regulars to mock. Olaf Koenders is a local dickhead (vide: http://ericpetersautos.com/2012/01/08/road-clovers/ ) who posts on WTFUWT & Coddling’s Crap with similar world views but an obviously anglophone background, despite the name. English is not CST’s preferred language.
    Some of CST’s previous responses on Deltoid provide some clues: He’s not medical, but retains some awe of the title and familiarity with sub specialisation (including misidentification of “Lime” disease but familiarity with sexually transmitted spirochaetosis!). I suspect that he has worked on the IT side of medicine, possibly with a German cardiology MRI group -from one of whom he pinched his first pseudonym. Freddy, Boris and Joe are fairly obvious generic nyms that fit with his adolescent fantasy character of the fearless script kiddie afflicting the adults who don’t know how important and dangerous he really is (that’s called sarcasm, CST, don’t get excited). Berendaneke is more interesting, since the nym does not occur (outside Deltoid) in any searchable form.

    So: CST is a northern European male with NPD and anti-Socialist tendencies, some IT skills and a dogged devotion to trolling Deltoid. I don’t think he’s Anders Behring Breivik, but I could be wrong. Anyone else want to play?

  33. #34 rhwombat
    King Coal's Sphincter, NSW
    October 14, 2013

    Marco@2#24: Well that was interesting. CST doesn’t get out much does he?

  34. #35 Joe
    October 14, 2013

    rhwombat

    you suffer from the same disease as all the other CAGW arseholes here: you think you are far more intelligent, skilled, knowledgeable, ethical, right etc. than you really are. YOU ARE A PRIMITIVE FOOL, AN OVER UTTERLY ARROGANT ASSHOLE. Look at yourself, you stinking shit: you are a subordinate, dependent employee without money, ambitious but not skilled and successful beyond small local horizons, outside your village nobody knows you twerp.

    Here is an example of your stinking shit :

    ClownSockTroll Hunting by Scat Analysis. (or how to spend Sunday when it was too bloody hot to climb in October).

    Despite knowing that this will inflame the Narcissistic Personality Disordered (NPD) virtual pustule known as the ClownSockTroll (CST) to the point of bursting, it is interesting to do a Gogol-style google on the various manifestations of the CST.
    The underlying NPD, distinctive ‘style’, repetitive errors, fascist perspective, vehemence, humourlessness, affectations, resentment and neediness permeates his posts (it is, of course, male) and makes them readily identifiable through a trail of socks & servers. From Kai to Freddy to Berendaneke to Boris to Joe, the CST has used a trail of nyms to plague Deltoid (and a few more stringently moderated blogs) with the sneering contempt of a prepubescent tagger.
    Despite the similarities in attitude (and probably a shared pathology) the CST is not the “Olaf Koenders” who’s stuffed head was left up for RC’s regulars to mock. Olaf Koenders is a local dickhead (vide: http://ericpetersautos.com/2012/01/08/road-clovers/ ) who posts on WTFUWT & Coddling’s Crap with similar world views but an obviously anglophone background, despite the name. English is not CST’s preferred language.
    Some of CST’s previous responses on Deltoid provide some clues: He’s not medical, but retains some awe of the title and familiarity with sub specialisation (including misidentification of “Lime” disease but familiarity with sexually transmitted spirochaetosis!). I suspect that he has worked on the IT side of medicine, possibly with a German cardiology MRI group -from one of whom he pinched his first pseudonym. Freddy, Boris and Joe are fairly obvious generic nyms that fit with his adolescent fantasy character of the fearless script kiddie afflicting the adults who don’t know how important and dangerous he really is (that’s called sarcasm, CST, don’t get excited). Berendaneke is more interesting, since the nym does not occur (outside Deltoid) in any searchable form.

    So: CST is a northern European male with NPD and anti-Socialist tendencies, some IT skills and a dogged devotion to trolling Deltoid. I don’t think he’s Anders Behring Breivik, but I could be wrong. Anyone else want to play?

  35. #36 Joe
    October 14, 2013

    Regarding what tie AR5 SPM said, it is almost comical. I gather you have read Ross McKitricks summary:

    “SPM in a nutshell: Since we started in 1990 we were right about the Arctic, wrong about the Antarctic, wrong about the tropical troposphere, wrong about the surface, wrong about hurricanes, wrong about the Himalayas, wrong about sensitivity, clueless on clouds and useless on regional trends. And on that basis we’re 95% confident we’re right.”

    Pretty much sums it up, wouldn’t you say? Not even overstated …

  36. #37 Joe
    October 14, 2013

    Look Deltoid ignorants what the IPCC admits:

    The effect of clouds on Earth’s present-day top-of-atmosphere (TOA) radiation budget, or cloud radiative effect (CRE), can be inferred from satellite data by comparing upwelling radiation in cloudy and non-cloudy conditions (Ramanathan et al., 1989). By enhancing the planetary albedo, cloudy conditions exert a global and annual shortwave cloud radiative effect (SWCRE) of approximately –50 W m–2 and, by contributing to the greenhouse effect, exert a mean longwave effect (LWCRE) of approximately +30 W m–2, with a range of 10% or less between published satellite estimates (Loeb et al., 2009). Some of the apparent LWCRE comes from the enhanced water vapour coinciding with the natural cloud fluctuations used to measure the effect, so the true cloud LWCRE is about 10% smaller (Sohn et al., 2010). The net global mean CRE of approximately –20 W m–2 implies a net cooling effect of clouds on the current climate. Due to the large magnitudes of the SWCRE and LWCRE, clouds have the potential to cause significant climate feedback (Section 7.2.5). The sign of this feedback on climate change cannot be determined from the sign of CRE in the current climate, but depends instead on how climate-sensitive the properties are that govern the LWCRE and SWCRE.

  37. #38 Joe
    October 14, 2013

    See again a comparison of the final draft version of the SPM, as finalised by the IPCC just before the Stockholm Meeting in the last days of September 2013, with the SPM after modification by politicians in Stockholm in order to create more alarmism and reduce or hide scientific uncertainties as expressed by the IPCC scientists.

    In Chapter B. Observed Changes in the Climate System

    IPCC scientists say:

    Since 1950, changes have been observed throughout the climate system: the atmosphere and ocean have warmed, the extent and volume of snow and ice have diminished, and sea level has risen (see Figures SPM.1 and SPM.2). Many of these observed changes are unusual or unprecedented on time scales of decades to millennia.

    Politics wants to read:

    Warming of the climate system is unequivocal, and since the 1950s, many of the observed changes are unprecedented over decades to millennia. The atmosphere and ocean have warmed, the amounts of snow and ice have diminished, sea level has risen, and the concentrations of greenhouse gases have increased.

    Please note that the small but important word “unusual” has been removed.

    In Chapter B.1 Atmosphere

    IPCC scientists say:

    Each of the last three decades has been warmer than all preceding decades since 1850 and the first decade of the 21st century has been the warmest (see Figure SPM.1). Analyses of paleoclimate archives indicate that in the Northern Hemisphere, the period 1983–2012 was very likely the warmest 30-year period of the last 800 years (high confidence) and likely the warmest 30-year period of the last 1400 years (medium confidence).

    Politics wants to read:

    Each of the last three decades has been successively warmer at the Earth’s surface than any preceding decade since 1850 (see Figure SPM.1). In the Northern Hemisphere, 1983–2012 was likely the warmest 30-year period of the last 1400 years (medium confidence).

    The mentioning of the MWP in the SPM was therefore deleted by politicians because they do not want too much disturbance of the intended alarmism.

    IPCC scientists say:

    Global mean surface temperature trends exhibit substantial decadal variability, despite the robust multi-decadal warming since 1901 (Figure SPM 1). The rate of warming over the past 15 years (1998−2012; 0.05 [−0.05 to +0.15] °C per decade) is smaller than the trend since 1951 (1951−2012; 0.12 [0.08 to 0.14] °C per decade).

    Politics wants to read:

    In addition to robust multi-decadal warming, global mean surface temperature exhibits substantial decadal and interannual variability (see Figure SPM.1). Due to natural variability, trends based on short records are very sensitive to the beginning and end dates and do not in general reflect long-term climate trends. As one example, the rate of warming over the past 15 years (1998–2012; 0.05 [–0.05 to +0.15] °C per decade), which begins with a strong El Niño, is smaller than the rate calculated since 1951 (1951–2012; 0.12 [0.08 to 0.14] °C per decade).

    Politicians are hence very eager to prevent people from thinking that the last 15 years of temperature stagnation have any significance.

  38. #39 Joe
    October 14, 2013

    Deltoid ignorants, here some stuff, you must learn to understand:

    THE ESA GLOBALBEDO PROJECT FOR MAPPING THE EARTH’S LAND SURFACE ALBEDO FOR 15 YEARS FROM EUROPEAN SENSORS.

    Jan-Peter Muller, Gerardo López, Gill Watson, Neville Shane, Tom Kennedy, Peter Yuen (1)
    P. Lewis (2), Jürgen Fischer, Luis Guanter, Carlos Domench, Réné Preusker (3) Peter North, Andreas Heckel (4); Olaf Danne, Uwe Krämer, Marco Zühlke, Carsten Brockmann (5), Simon Pinnock (6)

    (1) Mullard Space Science Laboratory, Dept. of Space & Climate Physics; (2) Dept. of Geography, University College London, UK
    (3) Institut für Weltraumwissenschaften, Freie Universität Berlin, Germany (4) Department of Geography, Swansea University, UK
    (5) Brockmann Consult, Geesthacht, Germany
    (6) ESA-ESRIN, Frascati, Italy

    1. GLOBALBEDO PROCESSING AND SAMPLES

    A land surface broadband albedo map of the entire Earth’s land surface (snow and snow-free) is required for use in Global Climate Model initialisation and verification. A group of 10 users have been selected to work with the GlobAlbedo* Implementation team to define requirements and drive the project towards practical applications of the product. These requirements defined the need to generate a final product on 8-daily at spatial resolutions of 1km in sinusoidal projection using the MODIS 10o x 10o tiling scheme and 0.05o and 0.5o on monthly time-steps.

    To generate such a global map by temporal compositing requires both sufficient directional looks and the very precise correction of top-of-atmosphere radiances to “at surface” directional reflectances (SDRs). In addition, such a map requires precise radiometric calibration and inter-calibration of different sensors [1] and the computation of radiative transfer coefficients to derive broadband SDRs from different input narrowband SDRs and given sufficient angular sampling from all the directional looks within a given temporal window, derive a suitable BRDF. This BRDF can be integrated to produce DHR (Direct Hemispherical Reflectance known as “black-sky”) and BHR (BiHemispherical Reflectance, known as “white-sky”) [2]. The final albedo product has been integrated in three spectral broadband ranges, namely the solar spectrum shortwave (400-3000nm), the visible PAR region (400-700nm) and the near- and shortwave-infrared (700-3000nm). In addition, maps of normalized difference vegetation index (NDVI) and the fraction of absorbed photosynthetically active radiation (fAPAR) will be generated consistent with the albedo product to complement the Globalbedo data set for analysis of vegetation-related processes [3].
    To achieve the aim of deriving independent estimates using European only assets, GlobAlbedo set out to create a 15 year time series by employing SPOT4-VEGETATION and SPOT5-VEGETATION2 as well as MERIS. Legacy algorithms for deriving SDRs using an optimal estimation approach are outlined [2] as well as a novel system for gap-filling using ten year mean estimates derived from equivalent BRDFs from MODIS [2]. Each and every output pixel albedo value has an estimated uncertainty associated with it and the corresponding BRDF a full uncertainty matrix for each pixel. Separate BRDFs are computed for snow and snow-free pixels and combined together to yield a gap-free dataset. An example of a sample output product browse in Figure 1 shows the BHR and the coefficient of variation derived from the uncertainty divided by the expectation value (loc.cit.)

    Animations of 8-daily and monthly browse products including the full-resolution 1km tiles are available on the website for the products available to date (2005, 2009, 2010 and the first 6 months of 2011). An OGC-compliant server based on OpenLayers also allows display of global data and inter-comparison by flickering from one date with another. Global data at 0.05o and 0.5o, as well as individual tiles at 1km, can be downloaded using wget and scripts can be easily written by the user to harvest the data they require. A novel facility is the ability to extract a single pixel or a group of 3 x 3 or 5 x 5 pixels in CSV format through time for immediate plotting locally.

    2. GLOBALBEDO VALIDATION

    Extensive validation has been performed on final GlobAlbedo product for each and every year that correlative data is available. Shown here from [4], in Figure 2 is an example of a time series plot of Blue-Sky albedo from GlobAlbedo, MODIS priors, MODIS Collection 5 and MISR measurements. Uncertainties calculated from within the product [2] are shown for GlobAlbedo and MISR. For a desert bare rock site (upper panel), the GlobAlbedo product shows reasonable agreement with the other EO datasets and with the tower measurements. The differences shown at the year start may be related to spatial variability of the site (loc.cit.). The Toravere site like most BSRN sites is not chosen for its spatial homogeneity but rather it’s location close to a suitable laboratory. It has a high degree of spatial variability and almost all BSRN are in this category. In addition, unlike the SURFRAD tower albedometer at 30m with a 100m footprint, Toravere albedometers are at 5m above the surface with a 5m footprint so rendering them unhelpful for the purpose of validating spaceborne-derived land surface albedo. The time series shown for Travere shows a common phenomenon for the more than 80 sites worldwide which have been employed to date, related to the effect of snow in winter. Due to very different fields of view of the local albedometer and the 1km EO-derived equivalent values, snow albedo values from EO are typically 50% of the ones retrieved from local albedometers. In this case, GlobAlbedo appears to be slightly more sensitive to the snow values but this is not necessarily typical.

    3. GLOBALBEDO PROSPECTS

    The GlobAlbedo data production at UCL-MSSL takes around 3 weeks per output year and produces around 1.5Tb (uncompressed) output. This is running flat-out on a 10-blade (160-core) linux cluster with 48gb of RAM and 1Tb local disk. The processing requires 100Tb of scratch-space to keep all input and output products online. An extensive Product User Manual is available from the website. Currently the production is expect to be completed for the Envisat time period by October 2012 with products being loaded after visual inspection of the browse products and validation using extensive tower-based data and similar EO datasets, including METEOSAT. In the next phase, a variety of different users will assess the impact of the product, and the use of the estimated uncertainties on their particular application.

    4. REFERENCES CITED

    [1] D. Potts, S. Mackin, J-P. Muller, N. Fox (2012). Satellite Sensor Intercalibration over Dome C: Application of QA4EO principles to the ESA GlobAlbedo Project. IGARSS 2012 (this conference)

    [2] GlobAlbedo_ATBD_V3.0 (2011). GlobAlbedo: Algorithm Theoretical Basis Document. Authors: P. Lewis, C. Brockmann, O. Danne, J. Fischer, L. Guanter, A. Heckel, O. Krueger, G. López, J-P. Muller, P. North, D. Potts, R. Preusker. Available from http://www.GlobAlbedo.org/

    [3] Pinty, B., Jung, M., Kaminski, T., Lavergne, T., Mund, M., Plummer, S., Thomas, E., Widlowski, J.L., 2011. Evaluation of the JRC-TIP 0.01° products over a mid-latitude deciduous forest site. Remote Sens. Environ. 115, 3567-3581.

    [4] Muller, J.-P., Lopez, G., Shane, N.S., Danne, O., Brockmann, C., Krämer, U., Zühlke, M., Heckel, A., North, P.R., Domench, C., Guanter, L., Fischer, J., Wang, Z., Schaapman-Strub, G., Cescatti, A., 2012. GlobAlbedo Test Product Validation Report, available from http://www.globalbedo.org/docs/GlobAlbedo_TPVR_V2_2.pdf . UCL- MSSL, 92pp.

  39. #40 Joe
    October 14, 2013

    Correction : Message improvement!!!

    ++++++++ BREAKING NEWS ++++++++ BREAKING NEWS ++++++++ BREAKING NEWS

    Arctic Sea Ice Minimum 2013 dramatically high:

    The Record Minimum 2013 was achieved on September 16.

    Scientific Results:

    The September 16 values (km2) of the last 7 years:

    2007: 4070114

    2008: 4516471

    2009: 5125931

    2010: 4684325

    2011: 4420667

    2012: 3177455

    2013: 4824927

    Scientific Discussion:
    The presented arctic sea ice extent data show a substantial increase of arctic sea ice extent during the last seven years. Only 2009 showed a higher arctic sea ice extent in the last seven years than the 2013 value. This trend of increasing arctic sea ice extent is in good agreement with the slightly decreasing global temperatures during the last 16 years. Humanity might therefore consider measures to counter a new cooling period.

    Political discussion:
    Why on Earth the fuck have idiotic mainstream journalists not alarmed the public of this new cooling trend in the arctic ocean. WHY THE FUCK?????

    Look at these idiotic CAGW leper islanders and mainstream journalists:

    :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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    ++++++++ BREAKING NEWS ++++++++ BREAKING NEWS ++++++++ BREAKING NEWS

  40. #41 Joe
    October 14, 2013

    @Harvey eco fundamentalist and CO2 clown :evil:

    Your insane over-exaggeration of eco worshipping is totally unacceptable:

    Understanding the value of supporting, aesthetic and provisioning ecosystem services is one of the most important disciplines bridging environmental science and economics. Supporting services are those which underpin the material economy (Heal, 2000). These include: purification of air and water, breakdown of wastes, stabilization of coastlines and climate, flood control, generation and maintenance of soil and renewal of its fertility, pollination, seed dispersal, the cycling of nutrients, pest control and others.

    Utter bullshit from a lunatic eco clown :evil:

    Costanza’s seminal 1997 paper argued that supporting ecological services alone were worth 33 trillion dollars to the global economy at the time – almost twice as much as the sum of all GDPs of all nations on Earth. A more recent study evaluates the value of supporting services:

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2212041612000101

    Utter bullshit from a lunatic eco clown :evil:

    The Millennium Ecosystem Assessment (2006) was one of the largest scientific endeavors undertaken in decades. Many of the world’s leading scientists contributed to it. The report concluded that human activities have seriously degrading critical services such as those described above by as much as 60%. The prognosis of further degradation is dire. Most of these services do not have technological substitutes, and even where there are, these are prohibitively expensive. For instance, the extinction of pollinators in parts of China has meant that certain crops have to be pollinated by hand. Humans cannot replicate the effectiveness of natural pollinators, such as insects, and crop yields are thus a fraction of what they would be if healthy population of insects were present.

    Utter bullshit from a lunatic eco clown :evil:

    There are a number of examples where the value of ecosystem services has been demonstrated. One of the best and which I use in lectures is the pollination of oil palms. Oil palms are native to west Africa, and were introduced into Indonesia and elsewhere in SE Asia in 1918. However, no native pollinators were introduced, meaning that for 62 years the trees had to be hand-pollinated. In 1980, however, a small African weevil and mutualistic pollinator of oil palm trees was introduced intentionally into Asia. Within 5 years, 200 million dollars was saved in tedious hand-pollinating practices and at the same time oil palm yields increased by a factor of 5.

    Utter bullshit from a lunatic eco clown :evil:

    Other examples abound. New York City has some of the cleanest drinking water of any major city on Earth. That is because the water comes from the Catskill Mountains watershed, some 150 km north of the city. Soil organisms filter the water and purify it. In the 1980s, however, the water supply to the city was threatened by developers who planned to clear many of the forests in the Catskill Mountains for golf courses and hotels. Moreover, the number of farms in the area increased, all of these factors leading to a reduction in the quality of groundwater and thus threatening New York’s longstanding supply. City planners had two options: build a water purification plant for 6 billion dollars with 300 million dollar annual maintenance costs, or to stop any further development of the Catskill region, buy out the developers and turn it into a large wilderness region – at a cost of 3 billion dollars. The planners took the latter decision.

    Utter bullshit from a lunatic eco clown :evil:

    Two textbook examples of ecosystem services and their economic valuation. Yet Luke says that ecosystem services are ‘lefty bullshit’. Folks, this is the kind of brainless idiot that we are dealing with. A self-righteous know-nothing with delusions of grandeur. Bill is correct. He does not deserve an audience.

    Utter bullshit from a lunatic eco clown :evil:

    Please stop your useless propaganda for a completely useless waste of time with your lunatic eco illness.

  41. #42 Joe
    October 14, 2013

    @Harvey greenpisser

    I give another chance to take of reality, which you ideology greenpisser don’t like:

    The scientific evidence for the validity of the AGW hypothesis is weak:

    1) A global surface temperature increase has not been convincingly shown so far due to methodological weaknesses

    2) Consequently a part of a hypothetical temperature increase – which could not be shown so far – due to anthropogenic CO2 is not demonstrated so far by climatology

    3) GCMS do not provide any evidence for CO2 warming in reality. It’s only virtual reality and clouds cannot be modeled so far. Therefore this is methodological crap.

    4) Harveys insect biology is irrelevant regarding the CO2 hypothesis. Life is always adapting to environment, but Harvey does not like this.

    You greenpissers on deltoid are poor ideologists, far away from science. You are a shame for mankind. Try to remove your ideological greenpiss dirt and work hard to become decent citizens instead of staying unethical idiots.

  42. #43 Joe
    October 14, 2013

    Further testimonies from post-normal climatology:

    WHAT IS THE AVERAGE GLOBAL TEMPERATURE NOW?
    Climatologists prefer to combine short-term weather records into long-term periods (typically 30 years) when they analyze climate, including global averages. Between 1961 and 1990, the annual average temperature for the globe was around 57.2°F (14.0°C), according to the World Meteorological Organization.

    In 2012, the global temperature was about 1.03°F (0.57°C) above the long-term average for the 20th century, according to NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center. That number made 2012 the 10th warmest year on record within a database going back to 1880. But among years with La Niña events under way (which typically cool the climate), 2012 was the third warmest on record.

    WHY ARE GLOBAL TEMPERATURES EXPRESSED AS A DEPARTURE FROM NORMAL,
    INSTEAD OF A SIMPLE GLOBAL TEMPERATURE?
    One reason is that there are several different techniques for coming up with a global average, depending on how one accounts for temperatures above the data-sparse oceans and other poorly sampled regions.

    Since there is no universally accepted definition for Earth’s average temperature, several different groups around the world use slightly different methods for tracking the global average over time, including:

    NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies
    NOAA National Climatic Data Center
    UK Met Office Hadley Centre

    The important point is that the trends that emerge from year to year and decade to decade are remarkably similar—more so than the averages themselves. This is why global warming is usually described in terms of anomalies (variations above and below the average for a baseline set of years) rather than in absolute temperature. A website from NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies goes into more detail on the topic of The Elusive Absolute Surface Air Temperature.

  43. #44 Joe
    October 14, 2013

    Would You Like Your Temperature Data Homogenized, or Pasteurized?
    Posted on December 11, 2009 by Anthony Watts

    A Smoldering Gun From Nashville, TN

    Guest post by Basil Copeland

    The hits just keep on coming. About the same time that Willis Eschenbach revealed “The Smoking Gun at Darwin Zero,” The UK’s Met Office released a “subset” of the HadCRUT3 data set used to monitor global temperatures. I grabbed a copy of “the subset” and then began looking for a location near me (I live in central Arkansas) that had a long and generally complete station record that I could compare to a “homogenized” set of data for the same station from the GISTemp data set. I quickly, and more or less randomly, decided to take a closer look at the data for Nashville, TN. In the HadCRUT3 subset, this is “72730” in the folder “72.” A direct link to the homogenized GISTemp data used is here. After transforming the row data to column data (see the end of the post for a “bleg” about this), the first thing I did was plot the differences between the two series:

    click to enlarge

    The GISTemp homogeneity adjustment looks a little hockey-stickish, and induces an upward trend by reducing older historical temperatures more than recent historical temperatures. This has the effect of turning what is a negative trend in the HadCRUT3 data into a positive trend in the GISTemp version:

    click to enlarge

    So what would appear to be a general cooling trend over the past ~130 years at this location when using the unadjusted HadCRUT3 data, becomes a warming trend when the homogeneity adjustment is supplied.

    “There is nothing to see here, move along.” I do not buy that. Whether or not the homogeneity adjustment is warranted, it has an effect that calls into question just how much the earth has in fact warmed over the past 120-150 years (the period covered, roughly, by GISTemp and HadCRUT3). There has to be a better, more “robust” way of measuring temperature trends, that is not so sensitive that it turns negative trends into positive trends (which we’ve seen it do twice how, first with Darwin Zero, and now here with Nashville). I believe there is.

    Temperature Data: Pasteurized versus Homogenized

    In a recent series of posts, here, here, and with Anthony here, I’ve been promoting a method of analyzing temperature data that reveals the full range of natural climate variability. Metaphorically, this strikes me as trying to make a case for “pasteurizing” the data, rather than “homogenizing” it. In homogenization, the object is to “mix things up” so that it is “the same throughout.” When milk is homogenized, this prevents the cream from rising to the top, thus preventing us from seeing the “natural variability” that is in milk. But with temperature data, I want very much to see the natural variability in the data. And I cannot see that with linear trends fitted through homogenized data. It may be a hokey analogy, but I want my data pasteurized – as clean as it can be – but not homogenized so that I cannot see the true and full range of natural climate variability.

    I believe that the only way to truly do this is by analyzing, or studying, how differences in the temperature data vary over time. And they do not simply vary in a constant direction. As everybody knows, temperatures sometimes trend upwards, and at other times downward. The method of studying how differences in the temperature data allows us to see this far more clearly than simply fitting trend lines to undifferenced data. In fact, it can prevent us from reaching the wrong conclusion, as in fitting a positive trend when the real trend has been negative. To demonstrate this, here is a plot of monthly seasonal differences for the GISTemp version of the Nashville, TN data set:

    click to enlarge

    Pay close attention as I describe what we’re seeing here. First, “sd” means “seasonal differences” (not “standard deviation”). That is, it is the year to year variation in each monthly observation, for example October 2009 compared to October 2008. Next, the “trend” is the result of smoothing with Hodrick-Prescott smoothing (lamnda = 14,400). The type of smoothing here is not as critical as is the decision to smooth the seasonal differences. If a reader prefers a different smoothing algorithm, have at at it. Just make sure you apply it to the seasonal differences, and that it not change the overall mean of the series. I.e., the mean of the seasonal differences, for GISTemp’s Nashville, TN data set, is -0.012647, whether smoothed or not. The smoothing simply helps us to see, a little more clearly, the regularity of warming and cooling trends over time. Now note clearly the sign of the mean seasonal difference: it is negative. Even in the GISTemp series, Nashville, TN has spent more time cooling (imagine here periods where the blue line in the chart above is below zero) than it has warming over the last ~130 years.

    How can that be? Well, the method of analyzing differences is less sensitive – I.e. more “robust” — than fitting trend lines through the undifferenced data. “Step” type adjustments as we see with homogeneity adjustments only affect a single data point in the differenced series, but affect every data point (before or after it is applied) in the undifferenced series. We can see the effect of the GISTemp homogeneity adjustments here by comparing the previous figure with the following:

    click to enlarge

    Here, in the HadCRUT3 series, the mean seasonal difference is more negative, -0.014863 versus -0.012647. The GISTemp adjustments increases the average seasonal difference by 0.002216, making it less negative, but not enough so that the result becomes positive. In both cases we still come to the conclusion that “on the average” monthly seasonal differences in temperatures in Nashville have been negative over the last ~130 years.

    An Important Caveat

    So have we actually shown that, at least for Nashville, TN, there has been no net warming over the past ~130 years? No, not necessarily. The average monthly seasonal difference has indeed been negative over the past 130 years. But it may have been becoming “less negative.” Since I have more confidence, at this point, in the integrity of the HadCRUT3 data, than the GISTemp data, I’ll discuss this solely in the context of the HadCRUT3 data. In both the “original data” and in the blue “trend” shown in the above figure, there is a slight upward trend over the past ~130 years:

    click to enlarge

    Here, I’m only showing the fit relative to the smoothed (trend) data. (It is, however, exactly the same as the fit to the original, or unsmoothed, data.) Whereas the average seasonal difference for the HadCRUT3 data here was -0.014863, from the fit through the data it was only -0.007714 at the end of series (October 2009). Still cooling, but less so, and in that sense one could argue that there has been some “warming.” And overall – I.e. if a similar kind of analysis is applied to all of the stations in the HadCRUT3 data set (or “subset”) – I will not be surprised if there is not some evidence for warming. But that has never really be the issue. The issue has always been (a) how much warming, and (b) where has it come from?

    I suggest that the above chart showing the fit through the smooth helps define the challenges we face in these issues. First, the light gray line depicts the range of natural climate variability on decadal time scales. This much – and it is very much of the data – is completely natural, and cannot be attributed to any kind of anthropogenic influence, whether UHI, land use/land cover changes, or, heaven forbid, greenhouse gases. If there is any anthropogenic impact here, it is in the blue line, what is in effect a trend in the trend. But even that is far from certain, for before we can conclude that, we have to rule out natural climate variability on centennial time scales. And we simply cannot do that with the instrumental temperature record, because it isn’t long enough. I hate to admit that, because it means either that we accept the depth of our ignorance here, or we look for answers in proxy data. And we’ve seen the mess that has been made of things in trying to rely on proxy data. I think we have to accept the depth of our ignorance, for now, and admit that we do not really have a clue about what might have caused the kind of upward drift we see in the blue trend line in the preceding figure. Of course, that means putting a hold on any radical socioeconomic transformations based on the notion that we know what in truth we do not know.

    204 Responses to Would You Like Your Temperature Data Homogenized, or Pasteurized?
    Mark says:
    December 11, 2009 at 10:14 pm
    Why doesn’t somebody get the raw unadjusted data for the world and plot just the rural data to see if there is warming or not? Urban area data would naturally seem to me to rise over time as those areas grow larger (and hence get more cars, electrical appliances, roads, buildings, people, etc).

    In my view, if the raw unadjusted rural data shows no warming, then CO2 isn’t working.

    [REPLY - Even the rural stations are horribly sited. When I last totted it up, the CRN site rating was even worse for rural stations than urban (rural/urban as defined by USHCN1). Even so, the average urban station warmed 0.5C/century more than the average rural station. 9% of USHCN1 stations are classified as urban, 17% as suburban, and the rest, rural. ~ Evan]
    Ian George says:
    December 11, 2009 at 10:18 pm
    There seems to be a discrepancy in the BOM records re raw data and their anomaly graphs in their
Australian high-quality climate site data. A blogger on Andrew Bolt’s site noticed that when the mean temp for Cape Otway Lighthouse station was calculated from the raw data it was not reflected in the anomaly map.
 I checked Yamba Pilot Station and found a similar discrepancy straight away.
    1915 had a max av temp of 23.6C and a min av temp of 15.9C.

    2008 had a max av temp of 23.6C and a min av temp 0f 15.5C.

    Clearly, 1915 has a slightly higher mean av temp than 2008.
    Yet the anomaly graph shows 2008 higher than 1915 by 0.2C. Eh! It should be the other way around.
These discrepancies (which also show up in Cape Otway) give a false impression that the recent warming is greater than it really is. There must be many examples of this (NZ, Darwin, Arctic stations, etc).


  44. #45 Joe
    October 14, 2013

    Deltoid teabaggers and watermelons

    PLEASE START NOW WHINING AND JUMP TO MUMMY FOR CONSOLATION

    AND CALL THE IPCC CLIMATE POLICE FOR APPEAL TO AUTHORITY

  45. #46 Joe
    October 14, 2013

    Test 45

  46. #47 Joe
    October 14, 2013

    wtf test 45

  47. #48 Joe
    October 14, 2013

    test 32

  48. #49 Joe
    October 14, 2013

    still workng

  49. #50 rhwombat
    October 14, 2013

    CST/Tourette Troll: Fapfapfapfapfap.

    A hit, a very palpable hit .
    This is fascinating – I must show some of my students.
    Back to cruelly ignoring the CST.

  50. #51 Jeff Harvey
    October 14, 2013

    Yup, Joe is indeed Berendaneke, escapee from a maximum security mental facility. He tried to mask his insanity for a few days, but all of the hallmarks of his affliction were there. Now he’d resorted back to his Mr. Hyde persona.

    I’ll contact Tim and get him booted off. He’s trying to take over the whole weblog, as indeed he did last time. Nobody here reads his twaddle but now he’s trying the saturation approach. My only concern is what sock he’ll show up next with. Still, he is so utterly crazy that it’s easy to identify him.

  51. #52 Lionel A
    October 14, 2013

    RHW:

    Very interesting.

    So: CST is a northern European male with NPD and anti-Socialist tendencies,…

    A nationality clue here perhaps:

    Berendaneke

    Horatio Nelson must really get up this ones nose, and they can keep their bacon too.

  52. #53 BBD
    October 14, 2013

    Jeff, please do contact Tim again. The lunatic carpet-bombing above is unacceptable. This moron needs to be burned out.

    Hilariously, I noticed that the idiot has reposted the ESA Global Albedo Project link that I gave him a few weeks back as if he knew about this stuff all along. As I said yesterday: FFS.

    This has gone on long enough.

  53. #54 BBD
    October 14, 2013

    Freddy/Kai etc is operation out of a server in Switzerland.

  54. #55 BBD
    October 14, 2013

    Gah. operation -> “operating”. It’s catching.

  55. #56 Jeff Harvey
    October 14, 2013

    BBD, will do. I managed to get a few of these time wasters booted out of here through Tim and Joe/Berendaneke/Kai/Boris may just about be the worst yet.

  56. #57 Lionel A
    October 14, 2013
  57. #58 BBD
    October 14, 2013

    Montreux.

  58. #59 BBD
    October 14, 2013

    Server owned by Swisscom (Schweiz) AG.

  59. #60 Lionel A
    October 14, 2013

    Maybe Tim could arrange for this to be the trolls permanent avatar found via:

    a comment at Stoat’s.

  60. #61 BBD
    October 14, 2013

    Maybe Tim could just IP-block the tedious, mad little fucker.

  61. #62 Lionel A
    October 14, 2013

    New post up at Real Climate , about the revamped Global Warming course from University of Chicago – David Archer.

    BTW is there any real gain in getting the 2nd edition of ‘Global Warming: Understanding the Forecast’ as a replacement for the first? Probably not for myself by now.

  62. #63 rhwombat
    October 14, 2013

    BBD & Lionel: Yep. Swiss fits with the polyglot style & underlying extreme idiotarian world view. I wonder if he has a loaded gun behind the door – or whether, like Breivik, he was excluded from the requirement because of his overt personality disorder.

  63. #64 Joe
    October 14, 2013

    Lionel A: wrong assertion, therefore not acceptable:

    New post up at Real Climate , about the revamped Global Warming course from University of Chicago – David Archer.

    BTW is there any real gain in getting the 2nd edition of ‘Global Warming: Understanding the Forecast’ as a replacement for the first? Probably not for myself by now.

  64. #65 Joe
    October 14, 2013

    Dr. Syphilis, your diagnostic capabilities are a catastrophe. You better give up your medical profession, as you pose life-threatening danger to your patients, you climbing ape arselick

  65. #66 Joe
    October 14, 2013

    BBD, I cannot really judge who of you Deltoid clowns is the biggest idiot, but you definitely belong to the biggest ones. One cannot really describe how big an asshole you really are, YOU ASSHOLE!!!!!!

    ASSHOLE!!!!!! Piss off from here. Tim does not like you! Will this not and not go into your skull, you twerp!

  66. #67 Joe
    October 14, 2013

    I think President Putin is an extremely intelligent political leader, as he does not at all like CAGW. He is therefore the much better president than Obama.

    You Deltoid climate idiots would be imprisoned in Siberia if you lived in Russia.

  67. #68 Jeff Harvey
    October 15, 2013

    BBD, you are 100% correct. Joe is raving bonkers. I’ll get in touch with Tim today and get his latest guise booted out. Hopefully he can block the server he posts from.

  68. #69 BBD
    October 15, 2013

    You are fucked, “Joe”.

  69. #70 Bernard J.
    October 15, 2013

    Whenever the sock-puppeteer posts I get spittle on the inside of my computer’s screen.

  70. #71 FrankD
    October 15, 2013

    rhwombat, authoritarian personalities are not normally described as having a personality disorder, are they?

    Although reading his posts, perhaps they should be. He seems to suffer from some form of carefully-typed Tourettes…

  71. #72 Joe
    October 15, 2013

    Harveys and BBDs computer and climate illiteracy make me vomiting for hours

  72. #73 BBD
    October 15, 2013

    You are still fucked, “Joe” in Montreux, Swisscom account user.

  73. #74 Joe
    October 15, 2013

    BBD, you are as always wrong, never mind

    but are you aware that you do strictly illegal things?

  74. #75 Joe
    October 15, 2013

    FrankD, no clue what Tourette is? It means a small tower and is french, you ignorant greenosser

  75. #76 Lionel A
    October 15, 2013

    Perhaps we ought to be careful about winding up this psychotic Guiseppe troll thing given that in the words of an Amazon book review

    … there’s more to Switzerland than banks and skis, francs and cheese. This is a picture of the real Switzerland, a place where the breathtaking scenery shaped a nation not just a tour itinerary, and where tradition is as important as technology. It’s also the story of its people, who have more power than their politicians, but can’t speak to one another in the same language – and who own more guns per head than the people of Iraq.

    I recall this windbag, or one of his other stocking fillers and he ain’t no Santa Clause, bragging about how wealthy he was. I wonder how he came by that and would this book, one I read about 15 years back, provide a clue as to the source of his wealth Blood Money: The Swiss, the Nazis and the Looted Billions.

    Maybe his wealth came directly from family or maybe by working as a computer technical geek for the gnomes. Real life versions of Gringotts Bank. Whichever, the source of wealth is still tainted.

    Anders Behring Breivik on steroids and did one of his socks echo that name? Maybe not, but then ….?

  76. #77 Joe
    October 15, 2013

    Lionel A(sshole): unbased conspiration theory:

    Perhaps we ought to be careful about winding up this psychotic Guiseppe troll thing given that in the words of an Amazon book review

    … there’s more to Switzerland than banks and skis, francs and cheese. This is a picture of the real Switzerland, a place where the breathtaking scenery shaped a nation not just a tour itinerary, and where tradition is as important as technology. It’s also the story of its people, who have more power than their politicians, but can’t speak to one another in the same language – and who own more guns per head than the people of Iraq.

    I recall this windbag, or one of his other stocking fillers and he ain’t no Santa Clause, bragging about how wealthy he was. I wonder how he came by that and would this book, one I read about 15 years back, provide a clue as to the source of his wealth Blood Money: The Swiss, the Nazis and the Looted Billions.

    Maybe his wealth came directly from family or maybe by working as a computer technical geek for the gnomes. Real life versions of Gringotts Bank. Whichever, the source of wealth is still tainted.

    Anders Behring Breivik on steroids and did one of his socks echo that name? Maybe not, but then ….?

  77. #78 Joe
    October 15, 2013

    Harvey blether and no effect:

    BBD, you are 100% correct. Joe is raving bonkers. I’ll get in touch with Tim today and get his latest guise booted out. Hopefully he can block the server he posts from.

  78. #79 BBD
    October 15, 2013

    but are you aware that you do strictly illegal things?

    This from our resident script kiddie? Ha ha!

    You are still fucked, “Joe”.

    ;-)

  79. #80 BBD
    October 15, 2013

    Lionel

    I recall this windbag [...] bragging about how wealthy he was.

    He was lying and I said so at the time, immediately. I know what people with money *sound* like, and Boris/Kai/Freddy is not of the tribe. This little man is one of life’s big-time losers. Please trust me on this.

  80. #81 Jeff Harvey
    October 15, 2013

    “Harveys and BBDs computer and climate illiteracy make me vomiting for hours”

    Keep at it, Joe/Kai/Berendaneke/Boris. Eventually you’ll dehydrate to death and we’ll be spared your mindless drivel forever.

    Note also the appalling grammar. My guess is that Joe is from Uranus.

  81. #82 Marco
    October 15, 2013

    BBD, he may have opened his Monopoly board game…

  82. #83 rhwombat
    King Coal's Sphincter, NSW
    October 15, 2013

    Jeff @2#68: The CST is just a threadworm (Enterobius vermicularis) infestation. Autoinfection is common. Tim needs to wash the sheets!

    Bernard @2#70: chuckle.

    FrankD @2#71: CST has a Narcissistic Personality Disorder, not an authoritarian personality. Two different things – though not unrelated in pathogenesis, and neither amenable to any treatment.

    NPD was (controversially) dropped from DSM-5 (the 2013 version of the American Psychiatric Association’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) in it’s initial iteration, then reinstated, because it is such a distinct prognostic entity. Tourette’s syndrome is common enough to coexist with NPD, but the tics associated with it are necessarily involuntary verbal or physical spasms – CST’s excrescences are far too sustained to be considered tics, and are therefore entirely voluntary and a product of his NPD.

    BBD & Lionel: Having established that CST is, indeed Swiss and can be wound up by pulling his chain, can we now consider him to be a cuckoo clock?

  83. #84 Craig Thomas
    October 15, 2013

    Joe
    October 15, 2013

    FrankD, no clue what Tourette is? It means a small tower and is french, you ignorant greenosser

    Wrong, Joe, a ‘small tower’, in French, is a “tourette”.

    When you write ‘Tourette’, you are referencing a medical terminology.

    This is a common mistake made by Swiss-Germans when they mistakenly capitalise words.

  84. #85 bill
    October 15, 2013

    Personally I’m standing by until the infestation is finally removed.

  85. #86 Joe
    October 15, 2013

    @bill

    ppppppffffffffffffffffffart

  86. #87 Joe
    October 15, 2013

    Craig: “… a medical terminology …”

    Wikistupidia says: “Terminology is the study of terms and their use” and “Terminology is a discipline which systematically studies the labelling or designating of concepts particular to one or more subject fields or domains of human activity.”

    What the fuck did YOU mean then by “a medical terminology”??? Is your “a medical terminology” a discipline which systemstically studies the concepts of your tourette?

    By the way, blether Thomas: you hardly command even one language, your poor mother tongue, and you don’t speak any other languages like french, italian, portuguese, spanish, dutch, german, russian, japanese, chinese etc. like me. Therefore you are a complete nobody and so angry that you a deplorable double zero.

  87. #88 Joe
    October 15, 2013

    some idiots said above that i would work for somebody: hahaha

    no, i let people let work for me, you assholes, but nobody of you losers would get a job in any of my companies.

    by the fuck, asshole bbd: i own at least several thousand of times the amount of your tiny “property”, you poor jealous and envying ZERO.

  88. #89 Joe
    October 15, 2013

    i bet that asshole bbd will come with his stinking and irrelvant lie of a king in siam

  89. #90 Joe
    October 15, 2013

    and i bet that doctor syphilis is a descendant of former criminals, but he will lie about this, as he always lies.

  90. #91 Joe
    October 15, 2013

    and i bet that twerp asshole Harvey has cheated that he contacted Tim. As a chronic, professional liar he does not even know how to reach Tim.

  91. #92 rhwombat
    October 15, 2013

    Hmmm. Deltoid as Skinner box, or is this one of Stephan Lewandowsky’s studies (or even Douglas Adams) that we are caught up in?

  92. #93 bill
    October 16, 2013

    I know how to reach Tim.

  93. #94 Jeff Harvey
    October 16, 2013

    Bill, so do I. I just haven’t done it yet. But I will today. We really do have to get rid of this psychopathic idiot once and for all. Now he claims to be a ‘businessman’. Earlier he said he was a scientist. Clearly he is neither. My guess is that he is writing this from a maximum security cell somewhere where they give computer access privileges.

  94. #95 BBD
    October 16, 2013

    i bet that asshole bbd will come with his stinking and irrelvant lie of a king in siam

    You are beyond stupid! This joke satirises anonymous commenters making unsubstantiated claims about themselves.

    I, for example, am the King of Old Siam. In exactly the sense that you are a plutocrat of immense wealth.

    You are far too stupid and insane to have amassed any personal wealth, Kai. We both know this perfectly well, which is why you pretence unmasks you as a desperate aspirant rather than a player.

  95. #96 Wow
    October 16, 2013

    Luke was an NPD.

    Maybe his expulsion threw what remaining screws he had loose… And transformed to SuperLukeSaianGold! Aka CST. Aka freddie. Aka the twat with a thousand nums.

  96. #97 Jeff Harvey
    October 16, 2013

    Joe, your time is running out here. Watch this space.

  97. #98 FrankD
    October 16, 2013

    Isn’t he internet marvellous, that we can get for free so many things that we used to have to pay for?

    Back in the day, it would cost a shiny silver shilling to have a close-up butcher’s at the residents of Bedlam. Now we can do it for free, thanks to Tim Berners-Lee!

    If only our ethical sensibilities had also stayed still, I wouldn’t be feeling slightly uncomfortable at the display here. As it is, its got so I’m having to look between my fingers to read this thread.

  98. #99 Jeff Harvey
    October 16, 2013

    Good news, folks. Joe, at least in his latest guise, is history. Now the site can get back to discussing the matters at hand…

  99. #100 BBD
    October 16, 2013

    Thanks Jeff, once again. What an affliction this has been.

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