June 2017 Open Thread

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  1. #1 Li D
    June 3, 2017

    Thankyou for starting a new open thread.
    Its always interesting reading.

  2. #3 Stu 2
    June 5, 2017

    So Li D?
    What do you make of the conclusions from this study?

  3. #4 Li D
    June 6, 2017

    #3 Keep up research and monitoring so
    implications of range change can be understood.
    Range change is complex. Simple assumptions should
    not be drawn.
    Public education is important.

  4. #5 Stu 2
    June 6, 2017

    Simple assumptions being drawn re climate change is particularly highlighted in box 4.
    It even has ‘confounding’ in the heading.
    I also think that they have concluded that managing dengue virus is about educating the public and directing funding towards programs that have clearly worked based on historical data.

  5. #6 Russell
    June 13, 2017

    At least one debate is over– Climate Debate Daily has folded after nine decreasingly interesting years :


  6. #7 Russell
    June 18, 2017

    Anthony Watts’ cloudily funded Open Atmospheric Society has also closed its treehouse door, having folloed Friends of Science in failing to to attract a presentable Board of Directors or more than a handfull of members :


  7. #8 Jeff Harvey
    June 21, 2017

    Russell, Dennis Dutton was a cornucopian crank. He lauded Bjorn Lomborg’s abyssmal tome, swallowing all of the nonsense the brainless Dane wrote without a hint of scepticism. That a luke-warming blog he started has folded is nothing to cry about.

  8. #9 Lionel A
    June 22, 2017

    In a moment of Freudian dyslexia I first read that as ‘Climate Debate Delay’ which was probably a better fit.

  9. #10 Russell
    June 28, 2017


    Dutton is long gone , but Arts & Letters Daily is still going strong as part of The Chronicle of Higher Education- I was celebrating the demise of Climate Debate Daily as a weird ALD sidebar, not its creation.

  10. #11 Lionel A
    July 10, 2017

    The attribution of extreme weather to climate change (brought on by anthropogenically forced global warming) is gathering pace.

    Mapped: How climate change affects extreme weather around the world

    Note the markers on Egypt and Syria.

  11. #12 Lionel A
    July 18, 2017

    Scienceblogs back behaving again.

  12. #13 Li D
    July 19, 2017

    Seems like it.

  13. #14 Justin Time
    July 19, 2017

    Does anyone here believe that the climate scare has been over dramatized?

  14. #15 Li D
    July 20, 2017

    #14 As a generalised thing, not at all.
    Not by science if thats what you mean specifically.
    Its very very fast change on top of a massivly disturbed

  15. #16 Justin Time
    July 20, 2017

    Hi Li D, when I was taught about climate change at school we were told it was never going to rain again, snowfall was going to be a thing of the past and a hotspot was to appear in the atmosphere above the equator.
    I recently read that much of the climate scare was based on a hockey stick chart. That chart has subsequently been proven to be concocted out of manipulated data and is not at all a true representation in any way of the temperature history.
    The climate models appear to have failed and it looks like there is actually no acceleration in sea level rise.

    What gives?

  16. #17 Li D
    July 20, 2017

    Um, your sources of information in your life dont seem very good, thats what gives.
    Sounds like you been exposed do an intellectual diet of horseshit.

  17. #18 ironicman
    July 21, 2017

    There is this massive global warming signal in the Southern Hemisphere, the subtropical ridge has intensified and is travelling too far south.

    Its observable and predicted by the models, where do we go from here?

  18. #20 Lionel A
    July 22, 2017

    The climate models appear to have failed and it looks like there is actually no acceleration in sea level rise.

    On who’s authority?

    Such a statement usual comes from those primed with nonsense from misinforms/dis-informers or from misinforms/dis-informers themselves. Which are you?

  19. #21 Li D
    July 22, 2017
  20. #22 Jeff Harvey
    July 27, 2017

    Justin is clearly living in his own parallel universe. It is warming. Sea levels are rising, the Arctic ice is receding and ecological fingerprints abound. And I do not believe for a split second that you were taught in school that rainfall was going to cease. Poppycock. As bad as some schools are when it comes to teaching science, this has never ever been stated. It has been suggested that there will less winter days with snow in some regions – which is certainly happenjng in much of Europe where I live – as well as less ground frosts. Also happening.

    Then Justin makes an outrageous statement about the ‘climate scare’ being predicated on the ‘hockey stick graph’. What a stupid, facile remark. Justin, let me get this straught: you are a high school dropout – am I correct?

  21. #23 Justin Time
    July 28, 2017

    Jeff Harvey, your comprehension skills appear to be extremely inadequate, as such you should take your childish/boorish persona elsewhere, or reread what I have typed, comprehend it, and respond as an adult should.

    Just to clarify (mostly for the numbskull).
    Yes there is global warming, and has been since the LIA, the planet was warm before the LIA.
    Yes there is sea level rise,
    A note to the numbskull, all these things happen in a warming world.
    Yes there has been sea-ice melting in the Arctic, although I believe Greenland has been gaining mass,
    And yes there has also recently been a very powerful El Nino.

    Lessons at school….
    “Over the past 50 years southern Australia has lost about 20 per cent of its rainfall, and one cause is almost certainly global warming. Similar losses have been experienced in eastern Australia, and although the science is less certain it is probable that global warming is behind these losses too. But by far the most dangerous trend is the decline in the flow of Australian rivers: it has fallen by around 70 per cent in recent decades, so dams no longer fill even when it does rain. Growing evidence suggests that hotter soils, caused directly by global warming, have increased evaporation and transpiration and that the change is permanent. I believe the first thing Australians need to do is to stop worrying about ‘the drought’ – which is transient – and start talking about the new climate”.
    Tim Flannery

    Yes, droughts/El Ninos’ are good for global warming 🙂