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Lowell Savage writes: Sorry, Ron. Much as I agree with your position, I have to say that you haven’t addressed Tim’s issue: why is it that 37% of non-gun defenders were injured before they began self-defensive actions while only 13% of gun defenders were injured before they began self-defense actions? Perhaps an anecdote from a…

In “Point Blank”, Kleck analyzed NCVS data and found that while 38% of people who used any means of self-protection against robbers were injured in the encounter, only 17% (the lowest for any means for self-protection) of people who use a gun for self-defence against robbers were injured. Kleck claimed that this showed that guns…

James Q Wilson on DGUs

Ray writes: Danny’s obvious reading disability has not allowed him to read this when I posted it before. Maybe he can get a friend to read it to him this time: W A Collier writes: Ray, one question for you: If all these other folks including Marvin E. Wolfgang (widely acclaimed as a statistician) found…

NCVS on DGUs

W A Collier writes: How the NCVS miscounted DGUs Undersized sample, poor methodology, bias in the questions, unsound methods and procedures in eliminating bias, and unlike Kleck, they started with the conclusion (there are only a small number of gun defenses) as an objective to be proven (not the scientific method) whereas Kleck started with…

Gary Kleck responds to Tim Lambert

I argued that the estimate of 200,000 DG woundings derived from Kleck’s survey (p163 of TG) was inconsistent the estimate of 7700-18,500 DG woundings on page 164 of TG. Kleck accuses me of sloppy reading for not noting that the p 164 estimate is for medically treated wounds only. However, even if we accept Kleck’s…

Gary Kleck responds to Tim Lambert

Gary Kleck writes: my position that estimates of DGUs with a wounding are unstable is correct. The prevalence of DGUs with a wounding in the Kleck-Gertz (K-G) survey was 0.0011 (1.326% of U.S. adults had a DGU of some kind in the previous year, and 8.3% of DGUs involved a wounding — see pp. 184-185…

I used to believe that Kleck’s estimate of DGU’s was correct, but overwhelming evidence to the contrary has convinced me otherwise. Sam A. Kersh writes: To the best of my knowledge, you have never accepted Kleck’s DGU estimates. At least not in the last 5 years that you and I (and Pim) have debated guns,…

The DGU War

Dr. Paul H. Blackman writes: Just a very few comments: Folks can report an incident to the police without reporting gun use. I once fetched a gun to encourage some burglars to leave, and reported the burglary but not the gun use, since the gun possession was unlawful. The Kleck estimate is not just inconsistent…

The DGU War

0. Introduction Volume 87:4 of the Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology contains three articles on the issue of the frequency of defensive gun use. The first presents David Hemenway’s critique of Gary Kleck’s 2.5 million estimate, the second is Kleck and Gertz’s reply and finally Tom Smith of the National Opinion Research Center comments…

NCVS DGU count

John Briggs writes: Also, the Crime Incident Report that follows the Basic Screen Questionnaire seems to elicit details (including defensive responses) regarding only the most recent of multiple similar reported crime incidents. Questions 2 and 3 ask about the when and where of “this/the first incident” and question 4 asks “Altogether, how many times did…