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Note that even if you are in love with Kleck’s estimate for DGUs, you can’t honestly compare it with the NCVS estimate for gun crimes, since it is not possible for both Kleck’s estimate for DGUs and the NCVS estimate for gun crimes to be correct. Dr. Paul H. Blackman writes: Why not? NCVS’s purpose…

Fabrication of DGUs

A large number of criminal shootings are “drive-bys” — fired from long range and more likely to hit an extremity than a self-defence shooting at close range. These factors suggest that defensive shootings would be more lethal than criminal ones. John Briggs writes: Any data on the proportions of such long range shootings? I confess…

Fabrication of DGUs

John Briggs writes: [Calculation of number of justifiable shootings deleted] This would suggest 15,000 to 20,000 civilian justifiable woundings or 17,500 to 22,500 incidents in which a civilian shot and hit an assailant. Kleck does a similar calculation in “Point Blank” to get an estimate of 10,000 to 20,000. For reasons I allude to below…

Fabrication of DGUs

John Briggs writes: [Calculation of number of justifiable shootings deleted] This would suggest 15,000 to 20,000 civilian justifiable woundings or 17,500 to 22,500 incidents in which a civilian shot and hit an assailant. Kleck does a similar calculation in “Point Blank” to get an estimate of 10,000 to 20,000. (This represents an awfully high figure…

Fabrication of DGUs

SFBearCop wrote: I can think of a number of reasons, none of them noble, why someone would fabricate a DGU, starting with giving the pollster what they thought was wanted. People do it all the time, so a friend in the public-opinion-counting game told me thirty or more years ago. John Briggs writes: This would…

With-gun defense polls

Peter Boucher writes: Just in case anyone’s interested. Copied from Kleck/Gertz, here are the polls from table 1 (minus those with no estimate of annual DGUs): Survey, Where, What year, What kinds of guns, # DGUs Field, California, 1976, just handguns, 3.1M Bordua, Illinois, 1977, all guns, 1.4M DMIa, U.S., 1978, all guns, 2.1M DMIb,…

NCVS estimates

“Eugene Volokh” writes: but I was wondering what you thought about the NCVS point I raised again a few days ago. To my knowledge, waiting for respondents to volunteer information is generally considered rather bad survey practice; and we saw that with the rape statistics shifting to a direct question changed the total by about…

Dr. Paul H. Blackman writes: I was curious about the suggestion that hardly anyone could possibly still believe the Kleck data now that NSPOF had become the 15th or 16th such survey in the same general category. Then you seem to have misunderstood. Kleck’s estimate (not his data – I have no problem with his…

Peter Boucher writes: Tim wrote that he, at first, agreed with the Kleck DGU estimates, but has since been convinced by the evidence that they were wrong. Tim, I’ve known you (well, sort of) for over 5 years, and I’ve never seen you post anything that indicated that you agreed with Kleck’s DGU estimates. Did…

“Eugene Volokh” writes: I should say that I agree with some of your criticisms of the Kleck & Gertz results, and of the 1.5 million count arrived at by the NSPOF study; In case anyone remains who finds the Kleck estimate credible, let me make a couple more observations: On page 170 Kleck “generously” estimates…