You can Betula to the mix… and Olaus and PentaxZ and several other simpletons…

Baiters and switchers all. How many times have they made some simplistic comment, had it comprehensively demolished, then, totally ignoring that topic, moved onto something else? And debunking them is easy because its clear they don’t understand basic principles such as the importance (and relevance) of spatial and temporal scales against which the current predicament must be gauged.

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v497/n7449/full/nature12156.html

KarenMackSunspot has never, ever presented a single post that is based on science, scientific method, testable evidence, or rational and defensible thought. I once challenged him to point to his single best post on Deltoid, the ‘killer’ of which he is most proud, and he has never responded. The challenge remains open, but don’t hold your breath folks – KarenMackSunspot is the epitome of shallow ignorance and ideological blinkeredness. With his most recent departure expect Karen or a new sock to materialise…

Bill at #32 p2 – it’s one of evolution’s exquisite ironies that Homo sapiens (sic) is not adapted to survive and thrive in the conditions of the Anthropocene. It’s just going to take about another 50-100 years for that realisation to sink into the brains of the average Joe and Jane on the street.

href=”http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2013/05/09/may-2013-open-thread/comment-page-3/#comment-156661Rednose:

It seems to give us a few years breathing space to consider best options.

No, we ran out of “breathing space to consider best options” a number of years ago. All we can do now is to try to minimise the damage to the biosphere and for future generations, and every day of further delay we’re making a bigger hash of that too.

Your approach is no different to the parachutist who won’t pull the rip-cord because the ground is still fifty metres away.

That’s really the be-all and end-all of your existence.

You have problems.

No. You are a liar, an ignoramus and a denier.

Thanks for that link. Its nice to hear it directly from source.
Little to disagree with.
It seems to give us a few years breathing space to consider best options. Cool heads and wise investment.
So are we reaching a consensus?