Sam A. Kersh writes: No, it up to you to show that an 88% reduction in rapes, 35% reduction in commercial robbery and an 84% reduction in residential burglaries is insignificant. Proof, not an inane assertion by Lambert as a...
In article fkk@leland.stanford.edu writes: In a recent post Pim cites Tim Lambert as support for his position on the Florida data. I'm sorry but Lambert's analysis is flawed at its core. No it isn't. It appears that you don't understand...
In article none+1 stratos@crl.com Janine K. Johnson wrote: Recently, several postings discussed the Orlando Florida phenomena of 1966/67, in which a drop in the rape rate was noted after a much publicized program co sponsored by the local police and...
Nate Lund said: Point Blank, by Gary Kleck, page 134: "From October 1966 to March 1967, the Orlando Police Department trained more that 2500 women to use guns. Organized in response to demands from citizens worried about a sharp increase...
Bill Gray said: [talking about Orlando gun training] Anyway, during the period after the training when the rapes dropped so dramatically, none of the women ever fired their weapons. Moreover, none of them shot a husband or boyfriend, nor were...
Crime rates go up and crime rates go down. Before seizing on some possibly coincidental factor such as gun training or gun control as the cause of the change, we need to establish if the change was unusual, i.e. statistically...
Which does not explain why there was no change in the suburbs, where there was just as much publicity. Frank Crary said: Presumably, the publicity was about women in Orlando carrying guns, not women in the suburbs of Orlando carrying...
Kevin Langston said: It really doesn't matter whether 0.2% or 20% of the women in a given area carry a .38 caliber protector. What matters is that 50% of the potential rapists/muggers/etc believe that a significant number of their potential...
So why credit the reduction in rape and burglary to the program? Oh I see, you would claim this as an indirect effect, where rapists and burglars gave up because they were worried about armed victims. Well, what if some...
Kleck also states that the percentage decrease was larger than in any other US city with a population of over 100,000. Kleck neglects to tell us what the population of Orlando was, but by looking at the granularity of the...