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« More inanity from our friend Null | Main | Try and beat this one, alties! »

Gary Null and his goon(s)

Category: Altie Meds
Posted on: May 4, 2008 3:01 PM, by PalMD

I've mentioned before that I think that PBS stations are making a deal with the devil when they feature Gary Null's infomercials. This alternative medince guru is a classic crank---an HIV denialist, seller of phonie cures, and host to other cranks.

But at least he's a nice guy, right?

Ask Lee Phillips, some guy who decided to call out his local public radio station. He wrote a very good letter to WPFW to complain about their hosting of an alleged snake-oil salesmean. In a rather creepy turn of events, the station, rather than pen a response, sent his letter on to Null's representative(s), who basically threatened to sue him. Lee, being a diligent crank-buster, wrote back (and don't forget to take Lee's advice about googling the guy...it's worth it).

Anyway, apparently Lee got a chance to debate Null on the air, and hopefully he'll inculde a link to it in a comment.

This is priceless, really. But if cranks start actually suing people, things are going to get ugly. So much for "Dr." Nice Guy.

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A few years ago, I stopped contributing to my local PBS station as long as they continued to broadcast Null's infomercials. His credentials are dubious at best. He is a stalwart of the "mercury mafia", and his claims that persons with high blood pressure, diabetes, and other maladies can simply stop taking their medications and be cured by his vegan diets are dangerous if not deadly. Apparently, my PBS station did not forward my complaints to Null, and I've had no threats from his associates, so I guess I should be thankful. The station, sadly, continues to broadcast his garbage.

Posted by: Catman | May 4, 2008 3:44 PM

Following the debate,Null frantically tells the radio audience about all of the charitable work he intends to do in Africa. Is that "nice" enough for you? It's just like Angelina or Madonna! Wait a minute, they make their money as entertainers as call themselves that.

Posted by: Denice Walter | May 4, 2008 5:08 PM

WPFW FM, Washington DC is a non-commercial radio station, a part of Pacifica Radio. It is NOT a PBS station. It does generally have good programs, music and public affairs, but as noted, some clinkers as well. In your earlier post, you didn't mention any PBS stations by name. Do you have any citations at hand?

Posted by: DaleP | May 4, 2008 9:53 PM

Well, aside from the fact that it is widely known, Null himself brags about it:

http://www.garynull.com/gn_inthemedia.asp

WTTW in Chicago was the one I found most annoying.

I don't particularly care about the technicality of Public Radio vs PBS, but I'll correct it. It just means he's penetrated further.

Posted by: PalMD [TypeKey Profile Page] | May 4, 2008 10:16 PM

Thanks for writing about this and for your kind words. I did get invited on to the show, but Null refused to debate me. Instead, he responded to my brief opening remarks with a half-hour rant, and going immediately to another guest who complained about the oppression of homeopathy, etc. They gave me a total of three hours notice that I was scheduled to be on the show, so I had that time to arrange things so that I was at a quiet location with a landline on which they could call me for the broadcast. I have to give them credit for inviting me on the air and letting me speak, although it's clear that when their attempts to keep me off balance failed and that I was prepared, relaxed, and ready, Null wanted no part of it.

WPFW does not offer archives of their shows, and I don't have a recording of the broadcast, which was on Apr. 29. If anyone has a recording or can point to a download, I would be interested.

I plan to write up a fuller description of the broadcast and the events surrounding it when I get a chance, so anyone interested in following this should check my website or, better, go there to subscribe to my RSS feed.

Posted by: Lee Phillips | May 5, 2008 10:34 AM

Lee,try "NPR Podcast Directory", then WNYE,"Health and Science".

Posted by: Denice Walter | May 5, 2008 12:17 PM

PalMD wrote:
I don't particularly care about the technicality of Public Radio vs PBS, but I'll correct it. It just means he's penetrated further.

Hmm, I see I was confused by the reference to PBS (TV network) in the context of radio. By the way, WPFW and Pacifica Radio is not usually referred to as "Public Radio". Pacifica Radio is a small chain of non-commercial radio stations, about 5. They are proudly not like National Public Radio, which they consider stodgy and out of touch.

The presence of Gary Null on PBS television station WNYE is disturbing, as is WNYE putting his podcasts from his tv shows on the NPR website. But if that is the extent of it, he hasn't penetrated much into radio.

Posted by: DaleP | May 5, 2008 1:26 PM

Denice Walter: I looked but did not find. Do you have an actual url to download the 4/29 show?

Posted by: Lee Phillips | May 5, 2008 2:02 PM

Lee:try www.npr.org/rss/podcast/podcast_directory.php You'll see WNYE, etc. BTW, we have to stop meeting like this!

Posted by: Denice Walter | May 5, 2008 6:14 PM

They just started up begging season on public tv around here. They seem to bring around lots of woo at this time--make-believe health care, makeup to look forever young, &c. Last time I was impressed by a special Bill Moyers presentation; on another occasion I wrote to complain that what used to be known as "educational tv" loses all claim to that nomenclature when they want my money.
The stations that broadcast the "alternative" health care crap as part of their normal schedules are worse. The last time I wrote complaining about one, it was a station carrying an infomercial from Balco, purveyor of physical enhancement chemicals. Within a week Balco was in national news (just a coincidence).

Posted by: mark | May 9, 2008 7:46 PM

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