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« Dembski Finds the Transcript | Main | Being Quoted in a Debate Round »

Dembski's Orwellian Behavior

Posted on: November 12, 2005 1:25 PM, by Ed Brayton

Yesterday I asked the rhetorical question, would Dembski continue to embarrass himself in this situation regarding Shallit's testimony? Well, we have our answer. Not only is he continuing to embarrass himself, he's digging the hole even deeper. He's now compounding his dishonesty with an attempt to erase the past. He has now deleted all three of his previous posts where he made the false claim that Shallit had been pulled from testifying by the ACLU because his deposition was an "embarrassment" and a "liability" to their case, even after one of those posts got almost 100 comments in reply to it. There's no word so far on whether he will change his name to Winston Smith.

This really is dishonest behavior, there's no two ways about it. Clearly, Dembski's world is one in which he thinks he can rewrite history and no one will notice. I'm dying to hear how his toadies will defend this behavior. It's not defensible on its own, so they can only attempt to distract attention away from it with a tu quoque argument or pointing fingers at others. So let's hear what they have to say. Salvador? O'Brien? DonaldM? Let's hear you defend this dishonest and Orwellian behavior. And tell us again how it's evolution that undermines ethics and morality while you're at it.

Update: Oh, here's Dembski's latest on the subject, in a comment responding to being asked what happened to the previous posts on the subject:

The previous postings were a bit of street theater. I now have what I needed. As for responding to Shallit and his criticisms, I have been and continue to do so through a series of technical articles under the rubric "The Mathematical Foundations of Intelligent Design" -- you can find these articles at www.designinference.com. The most important of these is titled "Searching Large Spaces." Shallit has indicated to me that he does not intend to engage that body of work: http://www.uncommondescent.com/index.php/archives/155.

Just when you think he can't get any lower, that he's hit bottom, he begins to tunnel. A bit of street theater? Okay, let me see if I understand this. Dembski engaged in a bit of "street theater" - meaning "told a lie" - to get a copy of the transcript that he could have gotten two months ago because it's been publicly available all along? And now instead of admitting to the lie, he's just erasing the evidence of it? Okay, let's call a spade a spade here. Dembski is a lying scumbag with no regard for the truth whatsoever. Period.

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Did you try archive.org?

Posted by: Matthew | November 13, 2005 12:04 AM

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St:

I love this blog. Keep the good job in the culture wars...this one big kick in the ass of neocons, religious theocrats and all those nuts that govern in Washington. Well done man!

Posted by: Maldoror | November 13, 2005 9:23 AM

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Archive.org is blocked by Dembski's site. However, Google Cache isn't.

Below is a cached version of Dembski's foolishness, which I'll take the trouble to save somewhere as a hard copy.

Shallit Yet Again -- P.S.

Dembksi actually says to a commenter,

And Norman, you may want to get your facts straight. Jeff Shallit was deposed by Dick Thompson of the Thomas More Law Center on June 28th, 2005. -WmAD
"...you may want to get your facts straight." Simply unbelievable, his hubris.

Posted by: Jim Anderson | November 13, 2005 12:04 PM

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(Now I see others have already whipped out the cache on PandasThumb. That's what happens when you're gone all day for a debate tournament.)

Posted by: Jim Anderson | November 13, 2005 2:29 PM

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It sounds to me like Dembski is taking his lessons from the White House senior staffers very seriously. These aren't lies, they are completely new realities. We struggle with facts and history, and they just make up whole new worlds for themselves and peddle them as the truth of the moment. Next Dumbski will say that Ed is revising history by claiming that the erased three posts even existed in the first place.

Posted by: spyder | November 13, 2005 4:51 PM

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