MikeGene’s response to me on his typology of ID critics had two parts. I thought the part about Dawkins and coercion deserved its own post and I didn’t want to dilute my complete rejection of the petition that Dawkins has chosen to endorse (Update: this appeared true when I wrote it, but it turns out not to be; Prof. Dawkins has repudiated that petition and explained his position, which does not in any way endorse such coercion, for which I am greatly relieved). I would now like to address the second part. He writes:
But for now, I can simply point out that while I am willing to make a distinction between someone like Ed Brayton and Richard Dawkins, Ed apparently wants to lump me with Duane Gish and Philip Johnson, where, I suppose, the TT contributors are all nothing more than players in a “PR campaign to place a thin veneer of scientific-sounding terminology over good old-fashioned religious anti-evolutionism.”
Will the critics of ID ever break free of their stereotypes and realize that not all proponents of ID can be painted with the same broad brush?
But in fact I do not lump MIkeGene, or Krauze, in with either Duane Gish or Phillip Johnson. I know absolutely nothing about their religious views, but I’m not aware of either of them engaging in the kind of doubletalk that Johnson does (or Dembski, or Behe, or Wells, etc) on ID and religion. It is entirely possible that both of them fall into that group that I referred to in my response to him. of people who have sincere doubts about evolution but are not pushing a religious agenda and are not part of the PR apparatus of the ID movement.
t’s also possible that they are involved in that; I simply don’t have any evidence of it, and both of them certainly do seem to take a more reasoned and moderate position than those involved with the DI and the more prominent ID advocates. But I do recognize that there are distinctions here. But here’s the thing: I don’t see Krauze or MikeGene lobbying school boards to get ID into science classrooms either, and to that extent they simply don’t matter much to me on this issue. They are not really the ones I’m fighting against. The larger ID movement, which they may stand with to some lesser degree, clearly fits the description I gave based on the evidence I gave, and much more.