Dispatches from the Creation Wars

Holy cow, you gotta see this post at Pam’s House Blend. An Army recruiter, Sgt. Marcia Ramode, contacted a guy named Corey Andrew, who had posted his profile and resume on Careerbuilder.com to try and recruit him for the army. When Andrew replied to her email and asked if he could openly serve in the military as a gay man, Ramode went off the deep end, sending a series of vile anti-gay screeds to him – from her official army email address, for crying out loud. The army has launched an investigation, but even without the repulsive statements expressed it’s clear that this person has no business being in any position requiring communication. Sgt. Ramode can barely put together a coherent sentence. Her emails are full of misspelled words and grammatical and punctuational errors; frankly, she appears to be barely literate and incapable of logical thought. See the full email exchange in a PDF file here.


  1. #1 llDayo
    March 27, 2007

    I think she’s perfectly qualified to communicate on the internet. Her writing reads like most other lunatics that reside on the ‘tubes.

  2. #2 Raging Bee
    March 27, 2007


    Did this recruiter even graduate from junior high school? Where do they get these people? Are we using kids to recruit other kids, like the Nazis did in their last days?

    A mind is a terrible thing to waste, so I guess it’s good that this recruiter doesn’t have one.

    I especially loved her reference to “WW11.” If we don’t need gay soldiers to fight in Iraq (after it becomes WWIII), we’ll definitely need ’em for WWXI.

  3. #3 Fastlane
    March 27, 2007

    Please tell me that pdf is a parody.

    Lie to me if you have to.

    Pretty soon,they really will be an ‘Army of One’.

    Ok, in all seriousness, this doesn’t surprise me. The military, for all its forced integration, really does tend to foster very much an ‘us vs. them’ mentality (it’s part of the training) and it is often seen as an easy way out by a lot of people (in many ways, it is). I remember the military recruiters that hung around at my high school were very pushy, like a used car salesman, they didn’t like a lot of questions, and they were none too bright, as long as they were able to lie about how good the service was….


  4. #4 Tim B.
    March 27, 2007

    I had to glumly chuckle at her line about the military bestowing or granting freedom of speech to us civilians. I think she was focused on the freedom of email communication between the outside and the inside regarding recruitment, but I think implicit in her remarks is the false notion that such rights are not inherent but only loaned, with the military holding the “mortgage.”

  5. #5 Stuart Coleman
    March 27, 2007

    Isn’t that awful? I’m curious if the recruited was even black, or if that guy just assumes all gay people are from Africa. I suppose it’s people like that recruiter who are keeping openly gay people from serving despite the fact that 70% of the Army doesn’t mind serving with them.

    This also reminds me of the story that’s been going around lately about women in the army who are so afraid of being raped by the men that they sleep with knives (and other drastic measures). I don’t have a link to it, but it’s just another problem with our armed forces.

  6. #6 chris
    March 27, 2007

    I’m curious if the recruited was even black

    He did say he is African-American, although that could mean he is a Bedouin from Bengazi or a Boer from Pretoria.

  7. #7 Ted
    March 27, 2007

    “Gay Voodoo Limbo Tango and Wango Dance”?

    This is bigger than the great hexagon of Saturn.

    If she came up with this dance on her own, then bless her, she deserves attribution in Wikipedia. Or am I just way behind in teh gay lingo? I can’t find the Voodoo Limbo Tango and Wango Dance gay or otherwise. I hope she’s not shamelessly ripping off the other Ted…

    Oh, great Google — I implore you to please keep this gem in your cache for the next 40 or so years. As we speak, bands all over America are rushing to work the phrase into their lyrics (and checking with Ted if there’s a copyright issue).

  8. #8 Chris Ho-Stuart
    March 27, 2007

    In the reporting of this story, I find it …. interesting …. that it is represented as if Corey Andrew merely asked if he could serve in the military as an openly gay man.

    The recruiter certainly failed to act professionally. But when I look at the exchange, I see that Andrew was itching for a fight from the start. That’s his prerogative; and a recruiter that can’t deal with deliberate taunting is in the wrong job. Ramode’s response is borderline psychotic.

    But that Andrew set out to provoke a fight should be part of the story. Not because it excuses Ramode; but because it gives a more accurate account of the nature of Ramode’s failure.

    Cheers — Chris

  9. #9 Ed Brayton
    March 27, 2007


    There’s no question he was spoiling for a fight, but I don’t think that changes anything. His first email was not at all provocative and it got a vile response. The second one was argumentative, but made perfectly valid points, like pointing out how absurd it is to turn down gays and throw them out when they’ve got such a shortage of people. That’s when the recruiter escalated it the truly repulsive stuff.

  10. #10 Brian
    March 27, 2007

    I agree with Chris. Though the recruiter certainly snapped and acted unprofessionally, it’s disingenuous to present Andrew as a mild-mannered individual with genuine interest in serving in the U.S. Military.

  11. #11 Brian
    March 27, 2007

    Provocative, no, but obviously sarcastic.

  12. #12 chris
    March 27, 2007

    I don’t have any problem with Corey provoking her. DADT is stupid and pointless and mean and weakens the overall security of the country, and the military, of which she is a public representative, ought to be called to account for it. The fact that she did so in such a raging, hateful way makes it that much worse.

  13. #13 Chris Ho-Stuart
    March 27, 2007

    I’m just saying that the description of events given is incomplete. It does not excuse Ramode in the slightest, but there’s scope to give more complete reporting.

    As I read the email sequence, I see:

    1. Ramode sends an unsolicited polite invitation to Andrew to consider a career in the military.
    2. Andrew sends back a brief reply, asking if he could serve as an openly gay man. He sarcastic, but civil. He obviously knows what the answer will be.
    3. Ramode sends a brief but civil one-line response, saying only that if Andrew is gay then he is considered unqualified. The only hint of trouble to come is the use of all caps.
    4. Andrew sends a rant about the military. Civility is gone; he describes recruiters as being like “pedofilic predators” [sic].
    5. Ramode escalates, with an offensive screed, focused upon how the military is defending his freedoms and he should be grateful, and so on. No direct attack on Andrew himself yet, apart from things like “take your gay self elsewhere”.
    6. Andrew steps it up another notch, with a strongly worded response on the military and the gay issue. I think this response is actually right on the money. It’s aggressive, but it’s justified. With a bit of editing it could be made into a good provocative article on the subject.
    7. Ramode loses it; goes on about how disgusting and immoral it is to be gay.
    8. Andrew loses it, though not quite as badly, now turning his contempt upon Ramode directly.
    9. Ramode goes flat out psycho. Bizarre.

    Of course, you can’t hope to describe every nuance in a brief intro. But I still think reporting that omits Andrew’s role in the fight entirely is incomplete. That he is entirely within his rights to be as aggressive as he likes is beside the point.

    Cheers — Chris

  14. #14 Raging Bee
    March 28, 2007

    I can’t find the Voodoo Limbo Tango and Wango Dance gay or otherwise.

    Step 1: open Microsoft Project.

    Step 2: import the Radical Homosexual Agenda, a.k.a. the Gay Agenda, into Microsoft Project. A huge pink paper-clip with a purple feather boa will give you step-by-step instructions if you need them.

    Step 3: expand all categories.

    Step 4: unhide all rows.

    Step 5: select all rows and set font color to black and background color to mauve; this is necessary because the radical gay movement leaders have concealed their more pernicious plans by entering them in pink-on-pink text.

    Step 6: search for the phrase “Voodoo Limbo Tango and Wango Dance.”

  15. #15 Ted
    March 28, 2007

    Step 1: open Microsoft Project.

    Which version of Project? Because I don’t think I have the gayed-up version of Office 2007 — although, I’ve heard it argued that every version of office is gayed up.

    Is this pink paperclip a downloadable plugin? It probably is; Microsoft is a well known business whore — we got those anti-semitic Office fonts removed toot-sweet.

    I checked on Corey Andrew — he’s got resumes posted in a few places. Nice work. He’s also a stand-up comedian and musician although I don’t know that his act can be as amusing as this slice of life exchange with the sarge.

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