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Rushdie, Free Speech and Civility

Posted on: June 20, 2007 9:17 AM, by Ed Brayton

A reader emailed me a link to this post by Oliver Kamm, a man I'd previously not heard of. I find myself in agreement with him almost entirely. He references some of the same reactions to the knighting of Salman Rushdie that I did yesterday and is disturbed, as I am, at the popular notion that somehow we should censor ourselves so as not to offend the clearly insane. To me this is absolutely obvious.

Take Muslims out of the equation entirely, pretend for a moment that they had never heard of Salman Rushdie and there was never a fatwah issued in the first place. Does Rushdie deserve to be honored in the literate world? Clearly so. He is a brilliant writer, frankly one of the few modern novelists, in a world populated by the likes of Tom Clancy, who deserves to be taken seriously as a thinker. So yes, Rushdie certainly deserves to be honored and lauded.

What, then, is the argument against honoring him? It can only be this fuzzy idea that we must not dare offend those who were offended by Rushdie's novel The Satanic Verses. But what possible obligation are we under not to offend them? There surely is no principled argument to be made here. And if one is to make a practical argument against doing so, one may rightfully be accused of outright cowardice, of allowing the insane to intimidate us in to not doing what we are entirely justified in doing. And is that not exactly what the threat of terror hopes to accomplish? No, thank you, I see no point in that. Kamm has it exactly right:

The proper response to those who find themselves offended by the expression of ideas is: "That's tough. You'll live. Get over it." This would be true even if the ideas were stupid and their utterer crass. It would apply to Sir Salman Rushdie if he were a hack writer with the sensibilities of the late Bernard Manning. But he is in fact a writer of outstanding literary gifts and also a heroic (I don't use the term lightly) defender of freedom of expression. The resolution of the Pakistani legislature is an ignorant and inflammatory intrusion into our civic affairs. I am not impressed with the response to it to date.

The last thing we should do is accept the terms in which religious obscurantists seek to frame this issue. I was appalled to see on the News not only the bonehead Lord Ahmed's insults against Sir Salman and the government that rightly recommended the honour, but emollient remarks by the British High Commissioner in Pakistan, Robert Brinkley (who has this morning been summoned by Pakistan's government). The honour was not, the High Commissioner said, an insult to Islam, for we respect Islam.

The first part of that answer was correct but strictly irrelevant. The second was improper. I take fierce exception to (I am - if you will - offended by) a British diplomat's speaking on behalf of my country and my government in taking a position on matters of religion. I do not respect Islam (or any religious faith). All I will insist upon as a matter of right for Muslims (or Christians, Jews and Seventh-Day Adventists) is religious liberty. Beyond that, they have no claim. They are not entitled to my respect. As a mere lobby group, they have no right to be listened to, let alone taken seriously, on matters of public policy.

In the meantime, our side - those who defend the values of a free society - will make ourselves heard, and because our ideas are worthy of respect we won't be cowed by religious bigotry. A stiffer diplomatic response is called for. At a minimal and trivial level, it is also time for democratic political parties to take a stand. In the original Rushdie affair, the Labour Party - which I mention specifically because I am on the Left - failed as abjectly as Mrs Thatcher's government and the first President Bush. Some Labour MPs called for Sir Salman's novel The Satanic Verses to be banned (the ridiculous Keith Vaz, MP for Leicester East, was the most prominent). I suggest that Lord Ahmed - who had the audacity and stupidity to compare Sir Salman's knighthood to support for suicide terrorism, both responses being, in his phrase, "uncalled for" - be informed retrospectively of his unamicable divorce from the Labour whip. It's a small gesture, but even those were lacking when Sir Salman was threatened by a foreign tyrant. He merits our support and admiration.

Kamm references also an article he recently wrote in the Index on Censorship entitled The Tyranny of Moderation: Respect and Civility are the Enemies of Free Speech. He is writing about the controversy over the Danish cartoons as well as of the original Rushdie situation with the fatwa calling for his death, and of the mealy-mouthed response of many Western intellectuals and establishments, many of whom struck the "we defend his right to say it but wish he'd been more respectful" pose:

The notion that free speech was an ethnocentric imposition on other cultures, to which a properly egalitarian politics would extend respect, has, in a less crude and populist form, developed mightily since. The soft form of that principle is that a culture founded on the free play of ideas needs to exercise restraint in the face of the sensibilities of others. As the Islamic scholar Tariq Ramadan has put it: 'Instead of being obsessed with laws and rights - approaching a tyrannical right to say anything - would it not be more prudent to call upon citizens to exercise their right to freedom of expression responsibly and to take into account the diverse sensitivities that compose our pluralistic contemporary societies?'

Sentiments such as these became established with the Rushdie affair, and have proved an enduring component of our political culture. In 1990, a year after the fatwa, Rushdie wrote: 'I feel as if I have been plunged, like Alice, into a world beyond the looking glass, where nonsense is the only available sense. And I wonder if I'll ever be able to climb back through.'

Western political leaders were adept at speaking that form of sense. The first President Bush ventured boldly, a week after the fatwa was issued, that the threat of assassination was 'deeply offensive'. The Japanese government anguished and declared: 'Mentioning and encouraging murder is not something to be praised.' The Chief Rabbi in Great Britain, Dr Immanuel Jakobovits, remarked with ostensible balance but genuine callous stupidity: 'Both Mr Rushdie and the Ayatollah have abused freedom of speech.'

Surveying these judgements, the writer Jonathan Rauch, in his 1993 book Kindly Inquisitors (from which I have taken the quotations), identified a tendency among Western intellectuals that would repudiate the sentence but not the notion that Rushdie had committed a crime: 'If we follow this path, then we accept Khomeini's verdict, and we are merely haggling with him over the sentence. If we follow it, then we accept that in principle what is offensive should be suppressed, and we are fighting over what it is ... that is offensive.'

As usual, I find myself in agreement with Rauch. And I think Kamm's answer is exactly right:

The notion that free speech, while important, needs to be held in balance with the avoidance of offence is question-begging, because it assumes that offence is something to be avoided. Free speech does indeed cause hurt - but there is nothing wrong in this. Knowledge advances through the destruction of bad ideas. Mockery and derision are among the most powerful tools in that process. Consider Voltaire's Candide, or H L Mencken's reports - saturated in contempt for religious obscurantists who opposed the teaching of evolution in schools - on the Scopes 'Monkey' Trial.

It is inevitable that those who find their deepest convictions mocked will be offended, and it is possible (though not mandatory, and is incidentally not felt by me) to extend sympathy and compassion to them. But they are not entitled to protection, still less restitution, in the public sphere, even for crass and gross sentiments. A free society does not legislate in the realm of beliefs; by extension, it must not concern itself either with the state of its citizens' sensibilities. If it did, there would in principle be no limit to the powers of the state, even into the private realm of thought and feeling.

The debate has not been aided - it has indeed been severely clouded - by an imprecise use of the term 'respect'. If this is merely a metaphor for the free exercise of religious and political liberty, then it is an unexceptionable principle, but also an unclear and redundant usage. Respect for ideas and those who hold them is a different matter altogether. Ideas have no claim on our respect; they earn respect to the extent that they are able to withstand criticism. Even some vocal defenders of liberty stumble on this point. The human rights campaigner Peter Tatchell wrote recently, of a particularly slanted television debate: 'Even the supposed Muslim moderates on last night's programme exuded a whiff of hypocrisy. Ibrahim Mogra of the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB) claimed: 'We do not wish to impose our way of life on anybody. All we want is to live in respect with one another.' Fine sentiments. Shame about the reality.' It is not, in fact, a fine sentiment to require respect. Respect is not an entitlement. It is, at most, a quality that is earned by the intellectual resilience of one's ideas in the public square.

Precisely so.

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Thanks for bringing this to wider attention Ed. Kamm's a British journalist who often writes in the Times and the Guardian. You won't agree with all of Kamm's opinion's; he was for the war in Iraq for example (and has written a book called The Left Wing Case for a Neoconservative foreign policy) but is always worth reading. He is particularly noteworthy for taking a stand against the increasingly common sight of liberals siding with illiberal reactionaries.

Posted by: SteveF | June 20, 2007 9:45 AM

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I suppose I'm a dissenter of Rushdie's literary merits. He's certainly a clever man, but I find his books to be oppressively precious and I think a lot of his fame has to do with his connections (Amis, Hitchens, et al.) and his nationality and the fact that he's becoem a free-speech martyr.

I like tweaking the noses of the Islamists, but I can't abide Rushdie.

Posted by: Oran Kelley | June 20, 2007 10:18 AM

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I suppose I'm a dissenter of Rushdie's literary merits. He's certainly a clever man, but I find his books to be oppressively precious and I think a lot of his fame has to do with his connections (Amis, Hitchens, et al.) and his nationality and the fact that he's becoem a free-speech martyr.

I like tweaking the noses of the Islamists, but I can't abide Rushdie.

Posted by: Oran Kelley | June 20, 2007 10:18 AM

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Bravo. Finally a voice of reason above the crescendo of nonsense. Only to be found on a Science Blog! Thanks for a good, enlightened piece.

Posted by: Ian Booth | June 20, 2007 10:19 AM

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Ed, apart from your idea that Rushdie is in some sense a half-way decent writer, I agree with your post.

Rushdie is too precious by half and full of himself.

Posted by: Chris' Wills | June 20, 2007 10:23 AM

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So, any word when they are going to knight Dawkins?

Posted by: daenku32 | June 20, 2007 10:59 AM

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You honour those who insult us(muslims), You help those who oppress us, then why do u people wonder when we kill your people and do suicide bombings against u?

Posted by: Shahin | June 20, 2007 3:32 PM

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There are times when cowering in fear will only result in further abuse. This is one of them.

Posted by: llewelly | June 20, 2007 3:39 PM

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We've found the person who speaks for all Muslims! Let me take the opportunity to issue a request through him:

I don't recall anybody being killed over The DaVinci Code, Shahin, and it would be nice if you could abide Rushdie in the same way. The publication of any book is never a reason to "do suicide bombings" against anybody; accordingly, we wonder why you would do such a thing because it is wrong, and hurtful to you as well as to us, and ultimately suggests far worse about you than us. Savvy?

Posted by: THobbes | June 20, 2007 3:47 PM

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I've been trying to get my head around a couple of questions recently: why does no one takes these loonies to task; and, when did it become a matter of course to sit around and patiently await riots and terrorist acts because some guy wrote a work of fiction almost twenty years ago?

We should oppose the behavior and rhetoric of oppressive regimes on principle. We are, after all, defending a man's freedom of expression and a queen's freedom of action.

Posted by: Polina | June 20, 2007 4:01 PM

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You honour those who insult us(muslims)

Why are you offended by a book? It's just words on a page. Get over yourself.

Posted by: chris | June 20, 2007 6:02 PM

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Shahin wrote:

You honour those who insult us(muslims), You help those who oppress us, then why do u people wonder when we kill your people and do suicide bombings against u?

Who wonders? We know exactly why you do it - because you're insane. Because you actually believe that if someone criticizes your religion, you are justified in killing them or other innocent people. Your religion is barbaric and vile and your actions when criticized only prove that point all the more.

Posted by: Ed Brayton | June 20, 2007 6:42 PM

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Your religion is barbaric and vile and your actions when criticized only prove that point all the more.

Steady on, Ed. You have opposed this sort of shite for long enough that you shouldn't be spewing it now.

The religion of Islam is not barbaric or vile, any more than Christianity is. Pretty much all religions can be interpreted in a barbaric and vile way, as can atheism if you want to.

Everything is fine, until that last sentence. You've heard enough from the Christian loonies to know that a nut is a nut, irrespective of the rhetoric in which the nuttery is dressed.

The barbaric thing here is the implication that it is acceptable to answer thoughts and ideas with violence. Anyone who thinks this is bonkers, irrespective of ideology, religious or otherwise.

We all pretty much know this is what you mean, though, given your history, so I hope/assume you don't mind me pulling you up on it.

Posted by: Matthew Young | June 20, 2007 7:01 PM

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The religion of Islam is not barbaric or vile, any more than Christianity is.

Hm. Technically I don't think Ed said it was.

Posted by: Coin | June 20, 2007 7:12 PM

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I second what Matthew Young wrote. Anyone who reads enough Dispatches to get an "Ed in your Head" knows that what he probably meant was "Your [fundamentalist interpretation of] religion is barbaric and vile and your actions when criticized only prove that point all the more."

Posted by: doctorgoo | June 20, 2007 7:14 PM

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Matthew Young wrote:

The religion of Islam is not barbaric or vile, any more than Christianity is. Pretty much all religions can be interpreted in a barbaric and vile way, as can atheism if you want to.

As the two commenters above correctly note, I did not say that Islam is barbaric and vile, I said his religion is barbaric and vile. The religion of the untold millions of Muslims who do not believe that suicide bombings and murder are a justified reaction to criticism is quite different and obviously far less barbaric (just like the religion of Jerry Falwell and the religion of Bishop Spong, though it may go by the same name, are entirely different sets of beliefs).

Posted by: Ed Brayton | June 20, 2007 7:26 PM

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As I said, I kind of assumed that was what you meant. Your history on this subject is fairly irrefutable.

Posted by: Matthew Young | June 20, 2007 7:30 PM

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I'm perfectly content to read Ed's controversial sentence in the broader sense. He likely didn't mean it that way, but I'll say it: Islam is barbaric and vile. And loony. Even in its most gentle and sane interpretation, it teaches that a book full of nonsense written by a 7th century prophet is the final and ultimate word of the only god. Except for Scientology, it doesn't get any loonier than that. That kind of insanity is neck and neck with Mormonism. And orthodox Christianity is not far behind.

Shahin, I will insult your religion. Feel free to get pissed. You would do yourself a favor, though, to think a bit about why someone would say what I've said.

But do not feel free to assault me physically because of my views. Words are one thing. Violence is something else. If you believe that my insulting your prophet or your god in any form or fashion justifies a resort to violence, then more than barbaric and loony, you are dangerous.

BTW, I have a good friend who is a Mormon. He knows I think his religion is loony. He thinks I'm terribly misguided. We're friends any way. That's the way things work in a civilized society.

Posted by: Russell | June 20, 2007 7:35 PM

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As the two commenters above correctly note, I did not say that Islam is barbaric and vile, I said his religion is barbaric and vile.

You may want to be a little bit more careful with the wording there in future though, if only so as to prevent unnecessary misunderstandings. I don't think I would have realized what you meant in the above comment if I weren't already familiar with your views.

Posted by: Coin | June 20, 2007 7:40 PM

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Ultimately Russell, you are right. If you have any sort of belief you have to be able to defend it with rational argument or it's pointless.

Beliefs as of themselves are worthless if they can't be substantiated - Scientology being the perfect example, although Bee might go bonkers at me again for asking someone to explain the substance of the difference between the beliefs of Scientology and Christianity, apart from age.

Irrespective of this, no-one is ever going to persuade the entire world to take this attitude any more than they are going to persuade them to take any other. Quoting Men in Black: "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it."

Ultimately if there is one fundamental fact about human existence it is that you have to live with people whose beliefs you consider nuts. This is why rational argument is so valuable, but also why active hostility towards all religion is, irrespective of your beliefs, idiotic in a practical sense.

Virtually no-one will ever agree with your or anyone else's specific stance on belief and religion, so a degree of political accommodation is not only inevitable, it's necessary. I think religion is bollocks from start to finish, but you can never build a functioning society by stamping your feet and insisting that you are right.

Choosing to draw the line between thought and words on one side and actions on the other is the closest I have ever found to a sensible compromise in this whole mess of hysterical shouting.

Posted by: Matthew Young | June 20, 2007 7:54 PM

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Shahin and Ruvy would probably hate each other's guts, simply for existing, but they're almost the same--assholes deluded by taking fairy tales seriously and willing to use and endores violence for even insulting those fairy tales.

Posted by: MAJeff | June 20, 2007 8:41 PM

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Said it before and I will keep saying it; any deity that needs it's followers to attack critics of said deity is not a very strong deity.

Oh, words hurt your all powerful god. How sad.

Posted by: Janine | June 21, 2007 2:02 AM

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Ed,
In reply to my post on the subject two days back, you said that you never criticised moderate muslims or Islam - only the terrorists and the fanatics (or words to that effect).

Now you are saying that "Your religion is barbaric and vile and your actions when criticized only prove that point all the more".

Can you be more consistent or else people will not take you seriously. BTW, I am a Muslim who enjoys reading your blog. It gives me a chance to understand the point of view of others no matter how unsavoury it may be at times.

Posted by: KayEss | June 22, 2007 6:45 PM

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KayEss-

There is nothing the least bit inconsistent in what I said. My statement "your religion is barbaric" was said to a specific person whose religion says that they can murder anyone who criticizes them. If your religion does not include that then my statement does not include you. There is nothing "unsavoury" about saying that if you believe you can murder someone for offending you you're out of your mind and a barbarian.

Posted by: Ed Brayton | June 22, 2007 7:49 PM

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KayEss, did you bother to read the comments following Ed's statement?

Simply put, KayEss, if you're a moderate Muslim, then for all practical purposes you follow a different religion from the Muslim terrorists/supporters, who, like Shahin, interpret Islam in such a twisted way as to consider it acceptible to "kill your people and do suicide bombings".

Posted by: doctorgoo | June 22, 2007 8:00 PM

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KayEss wrote:

It gives me a chance to understand the point of view of others no matter how unsavoury it may be at times.

Don't forget that it also gives you the chance to insult people who post in blogs during the day because you think that means they are jobless, lazy and have an aversion to work. Despite the fact that you know very well the world doesn't run on a 9-5 schedule.

This is also a wonderful learning opportunity. Notice how I refrained from making violent threats against you, even though you insulted me and many others who post here with your grotesque, arrogant, and self-congradulatory generalizations?

Notice also that I didn't pretend like it was my god who was insulted.



Posted by: Leni | June 22, 2007 9:27 PM

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Notice how I refrained from making violent threats against you, even though you insulted me and many others who post here with your grotesque, arrogant, and self-congradulatory generalizations?

Leni, To insult you or others was the farthest thing from my mind. I tried to bring in some humour to a serious topic. Evidently I failed. I apologize for having hurt your feelings. It wont happen again.

Posted by: KayEss | June 25, 2007 2:08 AM

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"What, then, is the argument against honoring him? It can only be this fuzzy idea that we must not dare offend those who were offended by Rushdie's novel The Satanic Verses. But what possible obligation are we under not to offend them?"

Presumably the same argument that prevents the US press corp from discussing uncomforable facts about Christian religion in the run up to the Presidential elections (Mormon racism, the fact that some of the worst genocides in history happened in the Christian countries of Germany, Rwanda, and the ongoing violence Congo which has produced an order of magnitude more deaths than Darfur.)

Posted by: Tom_Dubya | June 29, 2007 9:09 AM

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"What, then, is the argument against honoring him? It can only be this fuzzy idea that we must not dare offend those who were offended by Rushdie's novel The Satanic Verses. But what possible obligation are we under not to offend them?"

Presumably the same argument that prevents the US press corp from discussing uncomfortable facts about Christian religion in the run up to the Presidential elections (Mormon racism, the fact that some of the worst genocides in history happened in the Christian countries of Germany, Rwanda, and the ongoing violence Congo which has produced an order of magnitude more deaths than Darfur.)

Posted by: Tom_Dubya | June 29, 2007 9:14 AM

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"What, then, is the argument against honoring him? It can only be this fuzzy idea that we must not dare offend those who were offended by Rushdie's novel The Satanic Verses. But what possible obligation are we under not to offend them?"

Presumably the same argument that prevents the US press corp from discussing uncomfortable facts about Christian religion in the run up to the Presidential elections (Mormon racism, the fact that some of the worst genocides in history happened in the Christian countries of Germany, Rwanda, and the ongoing violence Congo which has produced an order of magnitude more deaths than Darfur.)

Posted by: Tom_Dubya | June 29, 2007 9:14 AM

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Tom, I'm not aware of any argument that prevents the major U.S. press outlets from discussing such issues. That they collectively choose to ignore such things is possibly the result of market forces - they are required to make a profit, of course, and alienating their audience works against that. As Ed stated, this could legitimately be considered cowardice. Hence the current popularity of "new media"...like this blog. Ed's point is that we, and the U.K. government and monarchy, have the right to form our opinions and honor those whom we will, without any requirement to respect the opinion of those who disagree with us. They certainly failed to ask our opinion before expressing theirs.

Posted by: BobApril | June 29, 2007 9:29 AM

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"Tom, I'm not aware of any argument that prevents the major U.S. press outlets from discussing such issues."

Remove your rose-colored glasses. It is exactly the same argument that prevents dissent in Muslim countries - fear of offending powerful communities. The fact that they succumb due to economics only serves to highlight their servility and incompetence....especially when compared to reporters in other countries where investigative reporters routinely face violence and assassination.

Posted by: Tom_Dubya | July 1, 2007 10:03 AM

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