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The MC Hammer Prayer Shield

Posted on: July 16, 2007 5:11 PM, by Ed Brayton

OneNewsNows, formerly Agape Press, has an interview with the nuts who interrupted the Hindu prayer. You're gonna love why they say they disrupted it:

Pavkovic says he knew beforehand he would likely be arrested for what he planned to do from the Senate gallery. "My hope was that our prayer to the Lord God may have provided a shield, lest the wrath of God come down on our nation for allowing pagan prayers to false gods to be offered," he explains. "We just felt like we've got to go stand in the gap, and cry out to the Lord for mercy for what we're allowing in our government."

"Full power to the prayer shields, Chewie." This cracks me up. Apparently the plan was to send up this Christian prayer as a force field, to prevent the HIndu shield from getting through. Or alternatively, to convince God not to punish us for the Hindu prayer in case it does get through the Prayer Shield. We'll call that the "Please Hammer, don't hurt 'em" strategy.

I said we pray...oh yeah we pray...we got to pray just to make it today..Okay, I've gotta post it:

He should have prayed that his career wouldn't dry up like the Sonoran desert.

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Ed, what you are forgetting is that M.C. Hammer is, in fact, a pastor.

In 1995, Hammer released the album Inside Out, which critics claimed was unfocused. The album sold poorly (peaking at number 119 on the Billboard Charts) [4] and Giant Records dropped him from their roster. [5] Because of dwindling album sales and a lavish lifestyle, Hammer, who was $13 million in debt, filed for bankruptcy on April 3, 1996. [6]

...

Hammer reaffirmed his Christian beliefs in October 1997[3] and now has a television show on the Trinity Broadcasting Network.[4] Hammer has officiated at the celebrity weddings of actor Corey Feldman and Susie Sprague on 30 October 2002 [5] and Mötley Crüe's Vince Neil and Lia Gerardini in January 2005. [6]

Perhaps people would be happier if we offered to let MC Hammer give the opening prayer in the Senate some day.

Posted by: Coin | July 16, 2007 5:27 PM

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Talk about yer "God fearin' Christians" eh'. These people would be empty vessels without their fear.

Posted by: TomMil | July 16, 2007 6:02 PM

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You forgot the next best part ... that Pavko -loves- the chaplain...

Pavkovic says although he believes Zed's prayer was "idolatrous," he loves the Hindu chaplain and wants him "to know the true and living God."

Posted by: yoshi | July 16, 2007 6:32 PM

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Apparently the plan was to send up this Christian prayer as a force field

In all fairness, it's just as reasonable an idea as the Star Wars program.

Posted by: Chris Berez | July 16, 2007 6:39 PM

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My hope was that our prayer to the Lord God may have provided a shield, lest the wrath of God come down on our nation for allowing pagan prayers to false gods to be offered," he explains.

Lol, the Lord God can't pick on people individually. LG has to come down on whole nations and peoples at once. Oh well I guess the big G knows what's best for everybody. Way to go G Dog Daddy Jizzle.

Posted by: 386sx | July 16, 2007 6:42 PM

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The activist [PACKOVIC] claims he and his family members did not shout or disrupt the Hindu man's prayer.

"We were praying," he asserts. "If our prayer disrupted anything, then so be it, but we were not shouting." And they were not there to harass Zed, he says. "I don't want it to be mischaracterized as we were there just heckling this man. We were not," says the North Carolina activist.

Y'know, someone once told me that God hates a liar...especially a bad one...

Posted by: CHV | July 16, 2007 7:46 PM

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Wow.

Check out that news link, and scroll down to see how many fundie whack-jobs actually salute what Packovic did when he intentionally disrupted that Hindu prayer.

The world is filled with truly demented people.

Posted by: CH|V | July 16, 2007 7:51 PM

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You forgot the next best part ... that Pavko -loves- the chaplain...

Yeah, that's always the best - when they say that they love everyone, and it's because of their love that they need to let them know that they're going to burn in eternal damnation. It's love that makes them fight same sex marriage, you see - they can't condone anything that would damn people in the eyes of the Lord.

They wish you'd understand and reciprocate, by the way, because Christians are being persecuted in the United States now ...

Posted by: Andrea | July 16, 2007 7:52 PM

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1) Apparently Pavkovic is completely unaware that there are plenty of people out there who think his prayers are to a false god, but I bet he wouldn't want us trying to pray over him (hey, that could be a good SNL skit - every denomination in the Senate gallery trying to out-pray every other denomination they find immoral and false)

2) Pavkovic must worship a weak, powerless and petty God if he felt the need to send up the prayer shield. I mean, wouldn't an omniscient and omnipotent God already have some idea of what a Hindu prayer is normally like? Does Pavkovic think that his all-powerful God hadn't seen a Hindu before, or have some idea of what he was going to say?

3) If natural and other disasters are the result of being sinful in the eyes of God, what exactly did the people of Texas and Oklahoma, which seem to have pretty high percentages of "Christians," do to piss God off this summer? Or were those floods just acts of nature and not the wrath of God? And how do you tell the difference?

Posted by: CPT_Doom | July 16, 2007 8:31 PM

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In all fairness, it's just as reasonable an idea as the Star Wars program.

But, Star Wars is testable.

Posted by: Alan Kellogg | July 16, 2007 8:43 PM

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We should be able to get a reading on that prayer shield -- up or down...

IT'S A TRAP!

Posted by: Norm | July 16, 2007 8:49 PM

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"We just felt . . . '

I'd like to have one small, uncut diamond for every time I've heard the faithful defend their unlawful actions by claiming that they "just felt."

Spotlights the difference between objectivity and subjectivity, doesn't it?

I have also heard them pray thusly: "Oh, Lord, we just pray . . ."

Just = "Only?" "Merely?" "Exclusively?" I don't know. Tired of wondering.

Long sigh.

Posted by: Crudely Wrott | July 16, 2007 10:28 PM

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Lol, the Lord God can't pick on people individually. LG has to come down on whole nations and peoples at once. Oh well I guess the big G knows what's best for everybody. Way to go G Dog Daddy Jizzle.

They're obviously following the Arnold Amaury school of godly wrath -
"Caedite eos! Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius!"
Slay them all! God will know his own!

Posted by: Spooky | July 17, 2007 6:16 AM

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The loudest prayers win.

Posted by: mark | July 17, 2007 8:15 AM

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I really don't get it. These people are (presumably) holding down jobs, driving cars, balancing their checkbooks, voting (shudder), but deep down they're essentially insane. How do they function on a day-to-day basis with minds that work like this?

Posted by: MS | July 17, 2007 9:46 AM

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So. . .do they set up these "prayer shields" where they really count? Do they surround mosques and temples and shrines and shout their Christian prayers to keep the prayers of all those other denominations from contaminating the world? They must be pretty busy folks.

If our kids were fighting like this over a toy, we'd take it away until they learned to play nice. Prayers before government meetings are a toy that's long overdue to be taken away. Clearly, nobody's ever going to learn to play nice.

Posted by: Alison | July 17, 2007 9:57 AM

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We should be able to get a reading on that prayer shield -- up or down...

IT'S A TRAP!


LG has to come down on whole nations and peoples at once.

The Capitol building can't repel firepower of that magnitude.


Posted by: paragwinn | July 17, 2007 1:11 PM

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Pavkovic's argument against Hindus praying in the US Senate could be construed as an argument against religious freedom. If a Hindu prayer in the capitol building invites God's wrath then what about the Hindu prayers in all the Hindu temples and homes?

Posted by: Bill Jarrell | July 17, 2007 2:55 PM

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We should be able to get a reading on that prayer shield -- up or down...

IT'S A TRAP!


LG has to come down on whole nations and peoples at once.

The Capitol building can't repel firepower of that magnitude.

But if we get close enough to those cathedrals, we might just take some of them with us!

Posted by: Spooky | July 17, 2007 8:29 PM

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Om Shanti Shanti Shanti,
Please stop this hurtful discussion. Forgive Pacovic and work for internal peace which will transform to world peace
May God Bless you

Posted by: om | July 19, 2007 9:27 AM

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