Dispatches from the Creation Wars

DaveScot: The Gift That Keeps On Giving

I know that pointing out hypocrisy and inconsistency on the part of DaveScot is a bit like reminding everyone that water is wet, but this is still too good not to post. All credit goes to Steve H at the After the Bar Closes forum on Wesley’s antievolution.org. First, look at this comment from DaveScot:

As soon as I saw a Monty Python cartoon appearing in Sean Carrol’s review of Edge of Evolution I stopped reading. Anyone who needs to resort to Monty Python in a scientific argument can be safely ignored as not having any legs to stand on.

Now, here is the cartoon found in that review:


The famous Black Knight from Monty Python and the Holy Grail. And good ol’ DaveScot has declared that anyone who needs to resort to reference to Monty Python in a scientific argument can be ignored and lacks all credibility. Perhaps he’s right here. After all, this same reference has been used by DaveScot himself:

The story of King Arther and the Black Knight would have been much more entertaining if people could regrow lost limbs too!


By the way, I think there’s an analogy between Arthur (ID) and the Black Knight (evolution) to be made here.

And by DaveScot again:

Have you ever seen The Black Knight in “Monty Python and the Holy Grail”? That’s you Glen, the Black Knight. It’s only a flesh wound. Don’t stop now. You can still try to bite my legs.

And by the object of DaveScot’s sycophancy, William Dembski:

Just as Monty Python’s Black Knight was whittled from a full human to a stump, so evolutionary theory is finally being whittled to its proper size. Where, in the whittling of the Black Knight, is evolutionary theory (stage I, II, III, IV, or V?)

And by his fellow UDer Douglas Moran:

To the Black Knight, his own invincibility was considered a matter of fact. Even with the strongest contrary evidence possible, the knight refused to believe he had been defeated. Not because the facts weren’t clear, rather because he had decided that his defeat was not even a possibility, and so his limbless torso could not be defeated. “Come back here and take what’s coming to you. I’ll bite your legs off!” Even as the evidence mounted around him and his enemy galloped off across his bridge, the very possibility of defeat simply did not exist in his mind. “Come back here, I am invincible!” In making this choice, he was in essence placing his own belief (or philosophy if you will) ahead of the facts. Philosophy first, then the facts IF they fit.

Methinks the little git might be on to something.