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Hillary Dodges Responsibility for Plagiarism Claim

Posted on: February 23, 2008 9:00 AM, by Ed Brayton

This is hilarious. Hillary Clinton is now claiming that it's the media making the plagiarism charge against Obama and her campaign had nothing to do with it:

"It's not us making this charge, it's the media," Clinton told Honolulu television station KITV Tuesday. "The media is finally examining my opponent which I think is important. We're trying to pick a president, someone for the toughest job in the world."

Right. Never mind that it was her campaign that posted the Youtube videos. Never mind that her campaign has now held at least two conference calls with reporters to keep the story going. and that she repeated it herself in the debate. Absurd.

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1

She was probably a victim of faulty intelligence...

Posted by: decrepitoldfool | February 23, 2008 11:40 AM

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Thinking that Obama is capable of handling the Presidency is what is absurd. If he's the nominee, I will vote for him, just to keep the office out of Republican hands for four years, but odds are his performance will return it to them immediately. But I won't say I told you so.

Posted by: Jeff | February 23, 2008 12:17 PM

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Well, I guess you won't be getting any more fat cheques from the Hillary campaign ;-).

Posted by: Eamon Knight | February 23, 2008 12:32 PM

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In the time scale of this primary campaign, a comment made last Tuesday is not "now". By the end of the debate in Austin, it became very clear that Clinton was repudiating this kind of bullshit, which is surely the doing of her increasingly desperate campaing staff.

If she does it again, call her on it. But don't act like something she said last Tuesday is current news.

Posted by: PhysioProf | February 23, 2008 2:30 PM

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Are you sure that it was actually Clinton that made the charge? Maybe it was, umm, her speechwriters?

Posted by: mark | February 23, 2008 3:21 PM

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In the time scale of this primary campaign, a comment made last Tuesday is not "now". By the end of the debate in Austin, it became very clear that Clinton was repudiating this kind of bullshit, which is surely the doing of her increasingly desperate campaing staff.

Did you miss Clinton's "change you can Xerox" line during the debate in Austin? Are you saying that during the hour following that remark she changed her campaign strategy? I didn't see or hear anything during that hour that would lead me to that conclusion.

Posted by: Mark Williams | February 23, 2008 3:27 PM

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You didn't hear her say at the end of the debate that it is an honor to be up there with Obama? You didn't see them spontaneously shake hands after she said that in what sure as fuck looked to me like a sincere heartfelt manner?

I am convinced that is the real Clinton, and the "Xerox" shit is the doing of her increasingly desperate campaign staff. If you think about it for a moment, it should be obvious why they are much more desperate than she. If it isn't obvious, I elaborated on this topic here:

http://physioprof.wordpress.com/2008/02/22/fucking-shitbag-campaign-staffers/

Posted by: PhysioProf | February 23, 2008 3:56 PM

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Yeah, "change you can Xerox," that was fan-effin-tastic! She hit the nail right on the head. Obama's whole campaign is "I am the hope!", "We are the change", 'I'm(we are) the one/s we've been waiting for!". I can't believe the dipshit fundamentalist evangelicals haven't already jumped on the bandwagon and broken the axles. Wake me up when he decides to say something of substance about his policies and where he is going to try to direct the country. I've had it up to here with "faith" in an undetermined quantity, and now my own party is starting to drink the same koolaid.

Posted by: Jeff | February 23, 2008 10:57 PM

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Hillary brought up that ridiculous plagiarism charge in the last debate. And the notion that it's her speechwriter's fault is patently absurd. If her speechwriters have that much control over her, they should be the candidate.

Posted by: Ed Brayton | February 24, 2008 12:45 AM

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I wonder if Hillary's speechwriters are from Manchuria?

Posted by: DingoJack | February 24, 2008 1:03 AM

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I wonder if Hillary's speechwriters are from Manchuria?

Posted by: DingoJack | February 24, 2008 1:03 AM

If they are, they were probably brainwashed for Obama.

Posted by: Jeff | February 24, 2008 1:18 AM

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Jeff:

Wake me up when he decides to say something of substance about his policies and where he is going to try to direct the country.

Maybe you weren't paying attention during that hour and a half on Tuesday night when Obama spent far more time talking than Hillary did, and exclusively about his policy positions. I mean, apparently you caught her Xerox comment, so you had to have been watching.

I got it, you simply changed the channel while he was talking, right?

Oh that's right, he's all fluff and no substance. Someone could shove his substance down your throat and you'd miss it, apparently. You see what you want to see.

By the way, Ed, Jeff appears to be a damn troll dropping that ridiculous YouTube link everywhere he posts.

Posted by: Patrick | February 24, 2008 2:02 AM

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I wonder why trolls have compete humour bypasses?

Ok Jeff, IF Senator Clinton's staff are brainwashed secret supporters of Senator Obama sabotaging her campaign then:
a) Why did she hire them in the first place?
b) Why doesn't she fire them now thier actions are becoming clear?
Anwsers should be a few sentences long, supported by evidence, cohherent, be punctuated and correctly capitalized. Please avoid multiple exclaimation (!) and/or question (?) marks.
Thank you -DJ

Posted by: DingoJack | February 24, 2008 5:27 AM

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If Jeff was actually interested in learning about Obama's substantive positions on the issues, he would only have to visit the Senator's website! Jeff, of course, is not an honest actor here; he's purely, solely, and entirely a right-wing troll, who, like a mindlessly obedient brown-shirt, is simply repeating the latest right-wing lie about Obama. Sorry, Jeff, one of the great things about Ed's website and (most of) his commenters is how much more well-read and informed they are than, say, about 99% of those who rely on Faux News, who will bindly, uncritically accept as truth any piece of right-wing propaganda that mirrors or affirms their pre-existing bigotries. You picked the wrong place to try to sell that particular lie about Obama: people here know better. Go back to the Freepers or Little Green Fascists or whatever right-wing sewer you crawled out of.

Posted by: Terry Walsh | February 24, 2008 5:52 AM

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There's 2 Jeff's here, I did make all those posts. I certainly am not a troll, nor do I indulge in Faux News or any right wing websites. I do not like Obama as the best choice, but if he is the nominee, I will vote for him as the best choice left. It is the Obamabots and Hillary Haters who just have to have it their way, and their way only, that are destroying the Democratic Party.

Posted by: Jeff | February 25, 2008 2:46 PM

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Correction: I did NOT make all those posts.

Posted by: Jeff | February 25, 2008 3:49 PM

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Plenty of people (including, it seems, a significant proportion of the crowd at the Texas debate) have jeered the "Change you can Xerox" line, but I haven't seen many point out how incredibly ironic it was. Clinton complained that Obama is using someone else's words, and she punctuated the attack with the most transparently speechwritten line of the entire campaign to date.

Given that no one seems to believe for a moment that that hamfisted joke was a Hillary Clinton original, doesn't it annihilate her own (admittedly stupid to begin with) point?

Posted by: Rieux | February 25, 2008 5:26 PM

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