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Darwin Mit Uns!

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Posted on: March 26, 2008 9:30 AM, by Ed Brayton

A poster at After the Bar Closes named midwifetoad has posted the most brilliant parody of the promotional picture for Expelled. Must be seen to be appreciated. Here's the original link. And the picture is below the fold.

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I can has irony?

The sequel/parody/rebuttal should be entitled "Godwin: The Movie", and spend 90 minutes randomly associating things to Nazi Germany via the kinds of correlational evidence made famous by FSM.

Posted by: Jason Failes | March 26, 2008 9:51 AM

Brilliant.

Posted by: Umlud | March 26, 2008 10:06 AM

There was a follow-up with a martin luther pamphlet that is equally funny

Posted by: rpsms | March 26, 2008 10:13 AM

Crap! I saw that a few other places today and not until now did I realize that it was a parody.

As always, the best parodies are indistinguishable from the truth when dealing with the creationists.

Posted by: bourgeois_rage | March 26, 2008 10:55 AM

BRILLIANT, but you have to give props to "Quidem", who did the Martin Luther / Darwin parody also.

Got to teach Both Sides!

Posted by: J-Dog | March 26, 2008 11:52 AM

Same here. I saw it elsewhere and "naturally" assumed that (along with the full title of the film itself) this was a really bad attempt at being funny by the creationists.

Posted by: Richard Eis | March 26, 2008 2:21 PM

From: Hitlers Tischgespräche im Führerhauptquartier, 1941-42

"Woher nehmen wir das Recht zu glauben, der Mensch sei nicht von Ur-anfängen das gewesen, was er heute ist? Der Blick in die Natur zeigt uns, daß im Bereich der Pflanzen und Tiere Veränderungen und Weiterbildungen vorkommen. Aber nirgends zeigt sich innherhalb einer Gattung eine Entwicklung von der Weite des Sprungs, den der Mensch gemacht haben müßte, sollte er sich aus einem affenartigen Zustand zu dem, was er ist, fortgebildet haben."

"Whence do we get the right to believe that man was not from his very beginnings that what he is today? A look at nature shows us that, in the realm of the plants and animals, changes and adaptations happen. But no development is shown, inside a species, that includes a leap as large as man would have had to make to evolve from some apelike state to what he is today."

Posted by: Rich | March 26, 2008 3:11 PM

Rich, interesting that Hitler actually identified himself with intellegent design ideas.

Posted by: RAM | March 26, 2008 3:31 PM

"Whence do we get the right to believe that man was not from his very beginnings that what he is today? A look at nature shows us that, in the realm of the plants and animals, changes and adaptations happen. But no development is shown, inside a species, that includes a leap as large as man would have had to make to evolve from some apelike state to what he is today."

That doesn't sound like much of a Darwinian materialistic quote to me (if it's accurate.) I really feel sorry for creationists because they're always getting owned by their own goals all the time. They never seem to really notice it much though. Hmmm weird.

Posted by: 386sx | March 26, 2008 7:01 PM

"Whence do we get the right to believe that man was not from his very beginnings that what he is today? A look at nature shows us that, in the realm of the plants and animals, changes and adaptations happen. But no development is shown, inside a species, that includes a leap as large as man would have had to make to evolve from some apelike state to what he is today."

So Hitler believes in microevolution but not macroevolution?

Posted by: Skemono | March 26, 2008 7:28 PM

I've never heard that particular quote before, so I'm a little skeptical that it's real. Unfortunately, I don't know German, let alone have a copy of Tischgespräche im Führerhauptquartier lying around with which to confirm it.

Can we get some better documentation of it?

Because if it's authentic, it's a pretty darn funny and pertinent quote to toss out in the faces of this latest batch of creationist clowns.

Posted by: Bad | March 27, 2008 10:30 AM

Of course, this isn't primary, but:

http://www.skepticwiki.org/index.php/Hitler_and_evolution

Posted by: Rich | March 27, 2008 11:28 AM

The quote is from Table Talk:

The collection called Table Talk is questioned by some; while most historians consider it a useful source, they do not regard it as wholly reliable. Ian Kershaw makes clear the questionable nature of Table Talk as a historically valid source; see his Hitler 1889-1936 Hubris London, 1998, xiv. Richard Carrier goes further contending that certain portions of Table Talk, especially those regarding Hitler's alleged hatred of Christianity, are outright inventions: see his "Hitler's Table Talk, Troubling Finds" German Studies Review26:3 October 2003. However, although Kershaw recommends treating the work with caution, he does not suggest dispensing with it altogether. (The Holy Reich, p. 253)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_beliefs#cite_note-17

Posted by: Alan B. | March 27, 2008 12:57 PM

Hitler was actually a YEC, as expressed in the first edition of Mein Kampf but this was amended in later editions.

See original source material, a great PhotoShop, and discussion here: http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?s=47ebfc8521940682;act=ST;f=14;t=5383;st=60

Posted by: J-Dog | March 27, 2008 3:59 PM

Table Talk was I think heavily edited by Martin Bormann, possibly in support his own devious aims. But Hitler certainly didn't hesitate to use and abuse religion, economics, science or anything else to get and maintain power. It's all about the power.

Posted by: Dave S. | March 27, 2008 4:47 PM

As an antidote to Expelled, I recomment a documentary called "Constantine's Sword" which I saw this evening. It traces antisemitism in the Catholic church through the ages, back to the 4th century. The book of the same name, written by James Carroll, (no relation) came out a few years ago. This was a preview, I think. The director was present, and after the film, participated in a Q&A session. It will be opening in select theaters in April. (My impression was that the formal opening date was the same as Ben Stein's opus) Very well made. It shows Ted Haggard an all his glory, and features the nasty influence evangelicals have in the military academies, especially the Air Force Academy.

Posted by: Bob Carroll | March 27, 2008 10:47 PM

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