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Salon has an article and audio of an interview with Orly Taitz that has her craziness on full display. There's virtually no crazy conspiracy she doesn't believe.
Obama's Hawaiian birth certificate is a fake. Boring, I know. Per Taitz, Obama's mother concealed his birth in Kenya to avoid having to process her son through immigration, because she stood to lose years' worth of welfare dollars.It's Barry Soetoro, not Barack Obama. In Taitz's telling, he went to school in Indonesia not as Barack Obama, but as Barry Soetoro. Through his father, he holds Kenyan and British citizenship, and through his stepfather, he has an Indonesian passport.
The president has dozens of Social Security numbers. They're so obviously fraudulent that they mark him as well over a hundred years old, and from Connecticut, and from every other sort of wrong place. In addition to forging his birth certificate, he had a goon tamper with his passport, then just maybe had that goon killed. ("I'm just providing the facts. You can infer anything you want, but here are the facts: This person was cooperating with the FBI. Had to do with passport records, and he was found, shot in the head.") Obama's Selective Service certificate is forged, and a police officer looking into forgery claims was warned off by higher-ups.
FactCheck.org is not to be trusted. FactCheck.org, the debunking site that verified Obama's Hawaiian birth certificate and labeled the Birther conspiracy bunk, is unreliable, says Taitz.
"Oh, oh, oh. Oh, let me tell you about FactCheck. FactCheck does not have one single forensic document expert. They have no expert. So what I have provided has more value than what they have provided. Not only that, did you know that FactCheck.org is an offshoot of Annenberg Foundation, as well as Annenberg Challenge." Which brings us to:
The Annenberg Challenge program for Chicago schools, for which Obama sat on the board, saw hundreds of millions of dollars mysteriously frittered away. Here, I admit I paused to wonder whether the Annenbergs might not be mad at Obama over the fraud at the Annenberg Challenge, and thus unlikely to cover up for his Kenyan-ness by pulling strings at FactCheck.org. But I said nothing to Taitz.
Obama's campaign was guilty of widespread intimidation of Hillary Clinton supporters in the Democratic primaries, perhaps in addition to vote fraud through dead voters. Also Obama or someone working on his behalf has made several attempts on Taitz's life, including tampering with her car.
Google is in on all of this. Taitz hedges and hints as with the gay murders, but she seems to entertain the possibility that Google, or possibly the entire Internet, is part of the plot to cover up Obama's illegitimacy. She muses darkly on the hacking of her PayPal account and the disappearance of her Wikipedia page, as well as hundreds of thousands of lost results for the search "Orly Taitz." She wants to know how else to explain why Google flagged her Web site as a "Reported Attack Site!"
Hundreds of servicemen are getting sick from mysterious vaccinations. Taitz wants some answers on why members of the military are required to receive certain vaccinations. "Did you know that there are hundreds of servicemen, that were vaccinated, and have reported serious, severe side effects of vaccination?" I ask her why there are mandatory vaccinations. "I don't know, and we can ask the Department of Defense. There is no reason provided!" Maybe soldiers going into combat may need certain kinds of immunity?
The flu vaccine is contaminated. "There is another concern in regards to vaccinations," says Taitz, "and vaccination against the swine flu." She starts to tell me about contaminated vaccines in the Czech Republic.
Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez may have been rigging our elections. He can do this because he owns Sequoia Voting Systems? Did I know this? No. Neither did Google, since searching the Internet seems to indicate it's actually just a group of Venezuelans who own Sequoia, a fact I point out to Taitz.
Taitz is unfazed. "That's another interesting issue, because there was a transfer of shares. And some shares were transferred to company called Smartmatic, out of Florida. And then there were reports that actually, Hugo Chavez and people close to him own a large number of shares of Smartmatic." Oh, and there was another report, says Taitz. "But mainstream media would not talk about it. One of the founders of Smartmatic was in a very strange accident, in a small plane. Both engines gave way, and the plane fell from the sky. Interesting -- it was the sky over Caracas, Venezuela." Haven't I ever wondered how it is that Congress maintains abysmally low popularity but most members are reelected, Taitz asks. I offer the standard response: "Because people distrust the institution of Congress, but like their personal representative? Isn't that what numbers usually show?"
"Not necessarily, not necessarily," says Taitz, and moves along.
You can't penetrate crazy.
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So... how long do you think it will be before we hear that 'Barry Soetoro' faked the moon landings, and that he was the one responsible for the Apollo 1 fire?
Posted by: Imrryr | August 17, 2009 9:20 AM
America is truly the land of the “free”, in any normal country Ms. Taitz would be residing in an institution for the criminally insane!
Posted by: Thony C. | August 17, 2009 9:30 AM
So, when you get close to her, can you actually hear the hum of stupid energy coursing through her body? I'm not sure how dangerous it is, but the beams of ignorance she shoots out might explain why everyone near her wears aluminum foil hats.
Posted by: dean | August 17, 2009 9:36 AM
I am amazed that this woman is not living under a bridge and chasing imaginary people away from her shopping cart full of discarded and dismembered dolls. And, why is anyone giving her any coverage at all?
Posted by: Chris Caprette | August 17, 2009 9:49 AM
Obama killed President Kennedy. There can be no doubt.
Posted by: hinschelwood | August 17, 2009 9:51 AM
And, and, and, he KNOWS where Jimmy Hoffa's body is! He was the offstage actor behind the reversal of the Schleswig-Holstein referendum! He was the final knife in Julius Caesar (BRUTE and OBAMA have the same number of letters, see?)! He was a co-conspirator in the final destruction of Bogazkoy!
I'm just sayin...
Posted by: NJ | August 17, 2009 9:55 AM
"Obama killed President Kennedy. There can be no doubt."
Posted by: hinschelwood
Right. He was the "Slingshooter on the grassy knoll".
Posted by: democommie | August 17, 2009 10:08 AM
Posted by: Chris Caprette | August 17, 2009 10:29 AM
Chris Caprette @ 4:
To reveal a primary source influencing at least 28% of the GOP. Taitz is absolutely newsworthy, as is the fact the GOP has descended into mass lunacy.
Posted by: Michael Heath | August 17, 2009 10:33 AM
The bit about Google and the interwebs gives the whole thing away: It's really been Al Gore calling the shots all along.
Posted by: kehrsam | August 17, 2009 10:35 AM
Michael Heath @ 10, doesn't the coverage provide the medium for that influence? The other thing I don't get is how someone so obviously deranged can get any money to promulgate her lunacy (outside of the free coverage, that is)?
Posted by: Chris Caprette | August 17, 2009 10:42 AM
"Over A HUNDRED YEARS years old"?
OMG Obama isn't THE ANTI-CHRIST!!! ....
He's a VAMPIRE!!! [cue 'O Fortuna' or 'Toccata in Fugue'] - ;) DJ
Posted by: DingoJacl | August 17, 2009 10:50 AM
Obama's campaign was guilty of widespread intimidation of Hillary Clinton supporters in the Democratic primaries, perhaps in addition to vote fraud through dead voters. Also Obama or someone working on his behalf has made several attempts on Taitz's life, including tampering with her car.
Wait, so Orly Taitz is a PUMA?
Posted by: Louis B. | August 17, 2009 10:52 AM
Louis B - That would rather explain why 'oily titz' and her closest friends have difficulty filling a phone box... :) DJ
Posted by: DingoJacl | August 17, 2009 10:57 AM
kehrsam - Al Gore and Barry Soetoro are suspected to be the same entity. Note how you'll never see them in the same place outside of some carefully stage managed events.
Don't forget the Icke-ian lizards are natural shapeshifters - remember when "President Obama" visited the UK? He spent hours with the Queen behind closed doors and it was never revealed what truely occured during that period.
Posted by: Captain Obvious | August 17, 2009 11:03 AM
Certainly explains why he's called The One in some circles. I wonder where he keeps the sword?
Posted by: Abby Normal | August 17, 2009 11:13 AM
Mr. Brayton has missed the real story behind Orly. Actually, she is just a stalking horse for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, according to "investigative journalist" Wayne Madsen. How does he know this? Bibis' foreign minister is one Avigdor Lieberman who was born in Moldova. Orly Taitz was born in Moldova. Bibi and Avi don't like President Obama. Ergo, they must be the handlers pulling the strings on Orly.
Of course now, Mr. Madsen is also a 9/11 troofer and claims that the swine flu is really a case of biological weapons developed in US labs that got out.
The birther nuttiness doesn't start or end with Orly.
Posted by: SLC | August 17, 2009 11:18 AM
SLC - Moldavia? isn't that somewhere in the Balkans? The Balkans includes Romania. Romania includes Transylvania. Which is the home Count Dracula. Therefore Oily Titz is against Obama because he's a hundred year old VAMPIRE!!! QED. It's just sooo obvious. ;) - DJ
Posted by: DIngoJack | August 17, 2009 11:27 AM
@Abby Normal - Does this mean that Orly Taitz is the Kurgan? They do look eerily similar...
Posted by: Imrryr | August 17, 2009 11:39 AM
Re Dingojack
Moldova used to be called Bessarabia and at one time was actually part of Romania. The western half, known as Wallachia (kingdom of the infamous Vlad Dracul, the impaler), it now part of Romania.
Posted by: SLC | August 17, 2009 11:59 AM
Seems that whenever the ORLY bird is mentioned, the level of sarcasm, normally fairly high on this blog, skyrockets.
Hat's off to Michael Heath for not succumbing in the face of the enormous pressure.
Posted by: MikeMa | August 17, 2009 12:09 PM
The questions won’t go away until obama releases his hidden records. All he has to do is make the following official public statement,
"I Barack Obama authorize the State of Hawaii to release and make public all of my records on file."
That's it. Issue over. But he won't because he's a fraud!! Obama knows that millions of citizens want to see it yet he continues to hide it. What and why is he hiding?
And maybe more disturbing is why don't BHO's supporters want to know the whole truth, especially since there's a reward of $100,000 for proof that Obama is a "natural born" citizen of the United States? The answer is that Obama’s very own supporters also know he’s a fraud!
OBAMA, STOP HIDING. SHOW US YOUR LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND OTHER RECORDS!!!!!
Posted by: Captain Steve | August 17, 2009 1:07 PM
Why should Obama do anything, Captain Steve. You and your ilk look like a bunch fucking morons to mainstream America. Why should Obama keep you from making fools of yourselves?
Posted by: Taz | August 17, 2009 1:16 PM
@Captain "When my father looks at me he's sorry he didn't jack off" Steve:
Hidden records - he's released everything that is legal and applies.
And the $100,000 "offer" - it specifically precludes the use of anything that is legal. From the website of the moron who made the offer:
"Copies or links to the previously released, Hawaiian "Certification of Live Birth", which is NOT a valid Birth Certificate, does not constitute valid proof to claim the reward.
I, Jason Hommel, promise that I will give $100,000 to the first person who can prove to my satisfaction that Barack Obama, acting as president of the United States, is a "natural born" citizen of the USA, which is a qualification to hold the office as indicated in the U.S. Constitution. "
jason hommel may simply be dishonest: you seem to be dishonest and irreparably stupid. go into a quiet corner of your house and practice what your daddy should have done.
Posted by: dean | August 17, 2009 1:23 PM
Guess what, moron? State of Hawaii STILL won't do anything more than what they've done.
You ever READ?
Posted by: gwangung | August 17, 2009 1:28 PM
By the way, dude. What's disturbing is that you want US to do YOUR work.
You've given NO evidence that Obama isn't a citizen.
Get off your fat ass and do the work. You made the claim, YOU support it. Get some evidence that Hawaii's record isn't valid. We'll happily wait--but we won't do your work for us.
Posted by: gwangung | August 17, 2009 1:30 PM
demoted to Private Steve, #22: And maybe more disturbing is why don't BHO's supporters want to know the whole truth....
Which brings up another good point. I personally don't care where Obama was born. I mean, it doesn't really matter, does it?
Don't get me wrong. If we lived in an alternate universe where Obama really was born in Kenya in a situation where his mother was unable to confer citizenship on him, then I would be perturbed that a clear Constitutional provision was disregarded.
But aside from that technical point, I don't see where it really matters whether or not Obama is a "natural born" citizen of the US. Hell, I don't like Schwarzenegger, but I think the requirement for the President to be a natural born citizen should be deleted (through the usual process of amendments, of course) so that he could run if he wanted.
Just my opinion.
Posted by: Chiroptera | August 17, 2009 1:41 PM
I don't know if you have the concept of a 'Vexatious Litigant' in US law. We have it in Britain. Basically if you insist on bringing half arsed law suits to court a judge can eventually say enough is enough and have you barred as a Vexatious Litigant.
It is probably about time that that happened to Ms Tatiz.
That would really feed the paranoia
Posted by: JohnM55 | August 17, 2009 2:13 PM
It looks like crazy Captain Steve is finally getting the universal scorn he deserves.
I imagine some of his sock puppets will stop by to rant a bit, but I take the general tone of these postings to be a sign that the vast majority of folks out there can recognize wingbat insanity when they see it.
Thanks to all for restoring my confidence!
Posted by: HappyAgain | August 17, 2009 2:43 PM
As I've already pointed out:
it's highly arrogant to think that Joe Public has any right to see the 'hidden' records of the PUSA, just because they feel like they have a right to.
if one doubts the validity of the records that have already been released, then one doubts the authourity by which they were validated. As that authourity is the same one that validates the authenticity of the 'hidden' record, you are effectively denying that the 'official record' can even be true.
In essence, birthers such as captain steve are both denying the status of the Registry as an valid official office AND demanding that the records held by the Registry be released.
Otherwise known as "being a f*cking moron"
Posted by: Dedj | August 17, 2009 2:49 PM
Maybe you should have to prove that you are a natural born citizen in order to challenge a candidate on this basis.
Posted by: BAllanJ | August 17, 2009 3:55 PM
Somebody has been sniffing too much nitrous oxide.
Posted by: Buffy | August 17, 2009 4:10 PM
Orly Taitz, with her claims that Obama was born in another nation here on Earth, is just another part of the conspiracy to distract the public from his non-human origin.
Posted by: harmfulguy | August 17, 2009 4:12 PM
I don't think the good "Captain Steve" is even seeing any of the responses to him. Just Google the phrase "Obama knows that millions of citizens want to see it yet he continues to hide it", and you'll see that he's copied and pasted this same crap many hundreds of times with no follow-up messages. You can't really engage hit and run cranks.
Posted by: Michael Hoaglin | August 17, 2009 4:49 PM
Apparently, Obama has changed his birthdate:
http://www.myspace.com/barackobama
Recently, he settled on Kapi'olani as his birthplace. Prior to that, both Barack and his sister claimed that he was born in Queens Medical Center. After a title search, the address in the birth anouncement presented as 'proof' of Obama's Hawai'i birth by his supporters was found to have been someone else's residence. Obama was so candid about things like cocaine and marijuana use, but won't release his college admission records. With inconsistencies and opacity like this from Mr Openness and Transparency, are you surprised that people want actual proof?
Posted by: Adam | August 17, 2009 4:56 PM
People have actual proof. They're ignoring it. What they want, a president who isn't a black man with a scary name, they can't have.
Posted by: JohnV | August 17, 2009 5:12 PM
Adam, #35: Recently, he settled on Kapi'olani as his birthplace. Prior to that, both Barack and his sister claimed that he was born in Queens Medical Center. After a title search, the address in the birth anouncement presented as 'proof' of Obama's Hawai'i birth by his supporters was found to have been someone else's residence.
Well, the exact building in which Obama was born is pretty much irrelevant. The only relevant fact is that he was born in Honolulu, which he proved by supplying his birth certificate, and which was verified by the relevant officials in the State of Hawaii.
Posted by: Chiroptera | August 17, 2009 5:15 PM
...and, just for the record, it's not true that either of them said he was born at Queens. Just one more lie that's been repeated to death.
Posted by: BigGuy | August 17, 2009 5:36 PM
BigGuy, #38: Just one more lie that's been repeated to death.
That's always puzzled me about the wackynut portion of the right. They spend so much time on untruths that aren't even relevant to the question.
Posted by: Chiroptera | August 17, 2009 5:39 PM
God bless Orly Taitz! Dems are so afraid of her because she speaks the truth. Republicans are FACT BASED and demand FACTS from Obama. Only libs attack Orly because they are afraid of the TRUTH!!
Posted by: Jenny J | August 17, 2009 6:34 PM
Jenny J - I hate to break it to you, but nobody's afraid of Orly Taitz, they're laughing at her.
Posted by: Taz | August 17, 2009 6:44 PM
Jenny J, #40: Republicans are FACT BASED....
It's been a while since I've heard a Republican use an actual fact, but maybe I haven't been paying close enough attention.
Anyway, what does it matter whether Obama was really born in Hawaii? I mean, only a small (although loud, I admit) minority really believes that he wasn't. The US Supreme Court, dominated by those FACT BASED Republican appointees, even refuse to hear the case. Obama was elected, he is living in the White House, and he is accepted by the majority of Americans to be the legitimate President of the US.
So, what difference does it make at this point? I'm not saying that it doesn't matter, I'm asking you why you think it matters.
Posted by: Chiroptera | August 17, 2009 6:54 PM
No, it's because we're all closet sadists who THOROUGHLY enjoy having battle of wits with unarmed opponents.
I mean, can't you tell? Folks like us enjoy being able to unload, full throttle, without the least bit of remorse or the barest of second thoughts.
Posted by: gwangung | August 17, 2009 6:55 PM
"his sister claimed that he was born in Queens Medical Center"
no dear liar, that was a High School newspaper that made that error. no Obama family member ever said what you claim, are you being lied to or are you the liar.
Now here's a bit of history for you, Queen Emma founded a medical center often refered to as Queen's Hospital
Queen Kapi'olani founded a materity hospital often referred to as Queen's Hosptital.
My daughter was born at Kapi'olani in 1965, my sister in law, on attemping to visit went to the wrong Queens Hospital. Gets mixed up often.
Posted by: richCares | August 17, 2009 7:22 PM
Orly Taitz is crazy. She definitely got punked with the Kenyan birth certificate. How are you going to file a court document as an attorney with fake paperwork? Do your diligence.
Obama is a natural born citizen! Get over it!
Obama's daddy is Frank Marshall Davis who was a friend of Obama's Granny in Hawaii.
http://remixxworld.blogspot.com/2009/07/frank-marshall-davis-barack-obamas-real.html
Since Obama's mother and Davis are both born in the USA and Obama was born in the USA, Obama would be considered a natural born citizen. Barack Jr. looks way more like Davis than Barack, Sr. Further, Obama refers to an "uncle Frank" in one of his books. I think "uncle Frank" was actually his daddy! I sense a prime time Maury show in the making.
I dare Orly Taitz to top that conspiracy theory!
Posted by: Barry Davis | August 17, 2009 7:53 PM
Orly as sane people see her...
Posted by: jpf | August 17, 2009 8:05 PM
Barack Obama killed my puppy.
Posted by: Isis the Scientist | August 17, 2009 8:21 PM
Ed,
At what point does this become libel? Or does it not count because it involves a public figure and/or has become indistinguishable from parody?
Posted by: James F | August 17, 2009 9:05 PM
Posted by: James F
Whos is being libeled?
Posted by: theroachman | August 17, 2009 9:38 PM
Adam, Jenny J et alia-Obama has shown all that he is going to show you. What are you going to do about it, besides bitch on a message board. The only recourse you have is to not vote for Obama in 2012. And I suspect you wouldn't vote for him no matter what papers he showed, so your opinions don't matter. Sorry to be a mean person, but really, they don't.
Any court challenges are moot, as Congress accepted all of the electoral votes cast in his favor. No judge has any jurisdiction over Congress' action in this case, since the Constitution left the decision as to whether a president meets the qualifications in Congress' hand.
Posted by: JusticeLeague | August 17, 2009 9:50 PM
Can't you see? It's obvious! Obama is Bigfoot!
If he wishes to deny it, I demand Obama take off his shoes on national television, LIVE and wave his bare (NO SOCKS ALLOWED) feet at the camera as proof!
The people of America will accept nothing less!
Posted by: Snoof | August 17, 2009 10:34 PM
Given the fact that you made these comments, it seems incumbent on you to study a bit more on libel law and public figures. Short answer: waaaaaaaayyyyyy further and parody has nothing to do with this.
Posted by: gwangung | August 17, 2009 10:49 PM
My dear birfers,
Let me explain:
liberals don't hate or fear Orly Taitz, we love her to bits!
Every time she opens her mouth, more and more idiocies gush out, (a kind of 'projectile vomit' of A-grade craziness, not seen for years). Her hyperbolic (one might almost say delusional) rants have given we liberals hours of fun, inspiring us to invent ever increasing satirical 'Orly-like' fantasies out of the most immaterial information cemented with transparent untruths. (True, some have mistaken 'satire' for 'sarcasm', but this is possibly due to thier misunderstanding of Juvenalian wit).
The fact that some 28% (it is estimated) of the Republicans actually believe her delusions is even more satisfying.
The more staunchly the GOP believes this nuttiness, the more it drives moderates from the increasingly irrelevant, 'Wingnut'-dominated right-wing party toward the left.
This general shift to left (or toward the central right, relative to the rest of the world) is forcing the highly populated centre of US political opinion to see that the Republican Party's reliance on the Religious Right, has distorted US politics to the far right, and led to moral and financial bankruptcy, unnecessary wars, cynical hypocrisy, cronyism and corruption.
In short the US public has finally got what others around the world had been saying for some time: 'the emperor has no clothes'. Another plus is that this shift is re-balancing US politics back into the world-political mainstream. The US is comming out of the long rightist phase, not as 'the world's only superpower', but as one member of a community of some 200 states. The US has finally realised that, at best, they are primus inter pares.
So thank-you Orly Taitz. Your hard work bringing down the Republicans has ensured that the US Religious Right will be divorced from the levers of political power for, perhaps, a generation. And the US (and the world) will be a better place because of their political impotency [/rant ;)] - DJ
Posted by: DingoJack | August 17, 2009 11:57 PM
Orly Taitz is not Moldovan.
Orly Taitz is Keyser Söze.
Posted by: democommie | August 18, 2009 12:24 AM
DingoJack:
It wasn't that telling Emperor Bushit that he had no clothes was so hard. It was just considered VERY impolite to tell him that he had a little dick to match his brain.
Posted by: democommie | August 18, 2009 12:27 AM
Maybe not. Actually, I think pretty much everyone would forgive him for mooning them at this point.
Posted by: Azkyroth | August 18, 2009 12:45 AM
Demo - As to George the Least's penis size, I will defer to your clearly greater knowledge*. :)
'Oily titz' is not Moldavian? How do you know? Have you, seen her 'long' or 'vault' Birth Certificate?** ;) - DJ
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*In fact, 'the emperor' in this case was no specific person, but an analogy of the US as a whole.
**The whole birfer movement is almost the antithesis of Keyser Söze. Obama's past exists in reality; the birfers refuse to acknowledge this reality and the evidence supporting it, because that would undermine the melodrama villain they have created.
Posted by: DingoJack | August 18, 2009 1:37 AM
I was just reading a history of the Salem witch trials tonight, how a small group of girls would accuse people in more and more bizarre ways, to the point that anyone from the outside looking in was appalled at how seriously they were taken, yet from the inside the frenzy was so high that everyone just went along with it and no claim was too absurd.
Sounds like a little bit of history repeating.
Posted by: Carlie | August 18, 2009 3:16 AM
Cut the crap. Stop focusing on the smoke screen and realize this whole mess could be stopped now if the documentation was made available. There must be something in this. $1.400.000
is a hell of a lot of money wasted on a matter that can be resolved by the stroke of a pen. No one in their right mind pays this out without a vested interest. Stop accusing those seeking truth as nutcases and see where the real nutcases are!!
Verdict: Something here stinks!!
Posted by: Col | August 18, 2009 5:04 AM
"There has to be something to my complaints, because I wouldn't complain otherwise."
Conclusion does not follow from premise, please try again.
Posted by: Michael Ralston | August 18, 2009 6:21 AM
Col, #59: Stop accusing those seeking truth as nutcases and see where the real nutcases are!!
Does anyone else miss the times when people "seeking the truth" would meditate on a mountain top for a few years?
Posted by: Chiroptera | August 18, 2009 7:26 AM
@Col #59:
Inflation's particularly high, for a recession year...
Cite for (and explanation of) $1.4m, please.
Posted by: Robin Levett | August 18, 2009 7:37 AM
And all y6ou militant atheists don't believe in demonic possession!! what more proof could you possibly have than "doctor" Taitz?
Posted by: sailor1031 | August 18, 2009 7:43 AM
Col, #59:
One more question:
$1.400.000
Why would a European care whether Obama is a "natural born" US citizen according to our citizenship laws?
Posted by: Chiroptera | August 18, 2009 8:08 AM
@Chiroptera,
Touché! However, I don't know if Col would understand the nerdy humor of your comment.
Posted by: Umlud | August 18, 2009 8:27 AM
to 64 Thanks for the question: As a Christian watching the demise of the Constitutionally Christian founded USA very closely I express concern. As you have been able to research my existence is very transparent.
to 62. Refer to World Net Daily for yourself and get up to date. I am not politically biased as per my answer to Chirotera but when I as an outsider see such a great and admirable country in pathetic unnecessary division. I open my mind to find out why. I don't accuse anyone but certainly disagree with those with their head in the sand. Peel off the peripherals and look to the solution!!
God Bless America (or is that now politically incorrect).
Posted by: Col | August 18, 2009 8:39 AM
Col,
Wrong again on all counts.
America is not a "Constitutionally Christian founded USA".
You are most certainly politically biased.
If you rely on WorldNutDaily for your news, you will never be up to date but rather down Farah's rabbit hole of insanity. Enjoy that ride but don't expect the rest of us to join that foolishness or believe a word of it.
Why should god have anything to do with this? Get a grip, go outside and take a walk to clear the 'nut' out of your head.
Posted by: MikeMa | August 18, 2009 8:53 AM
Not politically biased and then use world net daily as a source? Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahha bwhahahahahahahahahahahah bwhahahahahahahahahahah.
Oh wait, you're being serious?
Posted by: JohnV | August 18, 2009 8:57 AM
Col, citing the World net daily as a credible source qualifies as an instant fail. It's at about the same level as saying you heard it from a drunken hillbilly in a bar.
Posted by: Ramel | August 18, 2009 8:58 AM
To 67. To MikeMa
Don't join the deriders when you are in ignorance Mike.
I suggest you research the Christian Standings of the founding fathers.
You are entitled to your opinion but try to base it on the truth of your constitutional setup
God bless you and America Mike (or is that offensive too).
Posted by: Col | August 18, 2009 8:59 AM
Ok, now I'm just laughing.
Posted by: Ramel | August 18, 2009 9:01 AM
Re Col
Constitutionally Christian founded USA
Would Mr. Col care to show us where the word Christian appears in the US Constitution. Or god for that matter. I have a flash for him. They don't, thus showing him to be a fucking liar.
Posted by: SLC | August 18, 2009 9:04 AM
Col, #66: As a Christian watching the demise of the Constitutionally Christian founded USA very closely I express concern.
Okay, now I'm thinking Poe. But, in case not:
Then why focus on a legal technicality that doesn't even concern you and that we resolved among ourselves? If you are concerned about damaging policy positions, why not critique those policies as they are proposed?
Posted by: Chiroptera | August 18, 2009 9:13 AM
I wonder if Col knows who the US's most famos Deist were?
Posted by: theroachman | August 18, 2009 9:28 AM
Chiroptera, I think you're right. 'Constitutionally Christian' has to be a Poe.
And blatantly using WND as a link on this blog?
Yeah, good one, Col. ;-)
Posted by: FastLane | August 18, 2009 10:20 AM
As to America being founded as a Christian nation, look at the following quote:
“Authored by American diplomat Joel Barlow in 1796, the following treaty was sent to the floor of the Senate, June 7, 1797, where it was read aloud in its entirety and unanimously approved. John Adams, having seen the treaty, signed it and proudly proclaimed it to the Nation.
......................................................
Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.”
Posted by: Cymraeg | August 18, 2009 12:36 PM
"Only the small secrets need to be protected, the big ones are protected by public incredulity."
Orly doesn't know the half of it concerning Barry Soetero.
Some day even you libs will have to face the truth.
Posted by: Trel | August 18, 2009 8:08 PM
What truth Trel?
The earth is flat? The US Stock Market is the largest Ponzi sceme in world history?
Posted by: theroachman | August 18, 2009 8:23 PM
I'm sure someone else will pick up on this, but there is now more "proof" at wnd that something is amiss. hats off to my neighbor who forwarded me this info.
"If President Obama were indeed born in Hawaii, was it while the islands were a territory of the United States?
A new wrinkle in the dispute over his birth – and whether he is eligible to be president under the U.S. Constitution's requirement that the president be a "natural born" citizen – appeared today when Obama's official MySpace page declared his age is 52, thus placing his birth year at 1957 instead of 1961 as has been claimed.
That would mean he would have been born during the archipelago's time as a territory of the U.S., the islands' status from about 1900 until statehood in 1959."
Apparently this, plus the fact he hasn't turned over kindergarten records, and the fact that the white house press secretary hasn't taken the wnd reporter seriously, all point to the fact that our current president is a usurper.
I've seen several attempts by people who are sane to mimic the writing style of the folks at wnd: sorry, you don't come close. the attempts are too over the top - you don't portray the doom awaiting us as eerily as those men (and women?) do. it must be their gift and our curse.
Posted by: dean | August 18, 2009 9:33 PM
@Col #66:
Cite please; "Worldnet Daily" doesn't count as such. Give me the URL; not the ones that say $400,000, or $500,000, or $800,000, or $1 million.
Assuming that you are saying that this is what the POTUS has spent on defending the birther claims - can you point me at any filing by lawyers instructed by Obama or the Dems? All that money has to produce some paper.
Posted by: Robin Levett | August 19, 2009 9:08 AM
The est way to deal with Orly would be for the State Department to cancel her passport tomorrow. She would thereby be stuck in Israel.
Posted by: Cymraeg | August 23, 2009 7:32 PM
Or adequately fund mental health care.
Posted by: Azkyroth | August 25, 2009 12:14 AM