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You know, I had decided I was going to leave my new friend Pat alone. He was pretty much thoroughly humiliated a couple weeks ago when he tried to jump in to the deep end of the pool and I was reminded of Mencken's admonition that it isn't sound sport to agitate the mind of someone so hopelessly dense. But then a reader emailed me and caught me up to date on what I'd been missing over the last few days as Pat went off the deep end once again.
What set Pat off this time was the fact that one single Republican in the House of Representatives, Rep. Anh Cao of Louisiana, voted for the health care reform bill. And it revealed immediately that in addition to being a weapons-grade idiot, Pat is also a racist (I know; try not to be shocked). A sample of the tweets our boy wonder belched forth after Cao's vote:
@AnhJosephCao You Bastard piece of shit fuck! GO BACK TO Saigon, South Vietnam where you fucking BELONG GOOK!My Uncle served in Vietnam all he could stab this Country in the back. @samuel @levihenry @kerrence @tonyyeung @paparatti @Yeggo @frautoasty
Some of us, have not forgotten what happened on Dec 7, 1941 either! @samuel @levihenry @kerrence @tonyyeung @paparatti @Yeggo @frautoasty
@tonyyeung That's because LIBERALS like YOU LIED about the damn war, ya sland-eyed ASSHOLE
I'm really starting to distrust ANYONE of Eastern Descent. 1st it was John Yu, then it was Obama's guy saying we should repay China.
I'm head fucking serious... Al-Qaeda is not our Worst Enemy. The East is man. China, Japan, Vietnam, all of 'em. #tcot #hcr #killbill #VTO
Remember '41 people, this was their revenge on us. Ceo is a fucking Commie Plant in the G.O.P. #tcot #hcr #killbill #VTO
@FoxieNews Ya think? That rat bastard sold the G.O.P. up the river! and After all the Americans that went to 'Nam and Died. :-/ Pissed.
@samuel They had it coming after what they did to us at Pearl Harbor!!!!
@TexasRV Not to mention that Yellow man Cao that sold us up the damned river.
Whack Job my ass.... that bastard slant-eyed son of a bitch sold the G.O.P. up the fucking river and he knows it!
At one point, he even claimed that Japan was a communist country when they attacked us. But the fun was just starting. Wonkette published the first tweet above calling Cao a "fucking gook" and much amusement ensued. Someone in the comments there posted Pat's address -- and you might want to turn off your irony meters for this one -- and this was his response:
Oh, and to the liberal tools who called my house and posted my address. Ever heard of stalking laws? Besides all that; do you really think that I give two shits, if you know where I live? Please. I am not afraid of anyone; you want to come here and start some stuff? Feel free! But you'd better bring your lunch and have your life insurance policy paid up. Cause you are going to need it. For what it's worth, I don't need a damned gun. I will beat your sorry asses senseless in the damn street and then tell your mom why I did it. I don't play that intimidation game, not in this lifetime. Also, any packages show up here, that I did not order, I will call the police and I am sure they will be in touch with you. Think about that, before you send something stupid; which has been done before, and the dude went to jail for it.
Okay, let's recap. Dumbass Pat claimed he was going to have me put in jail for "stalking" him for writing a post criticizing something he wrote on a public blog. Then he posted what he thought was my address and encouraged people to show up at my door. And now someone did the same thing to him and he's invoking the stalking laws. Seriously, this guy isn't ducking into the punch, he's freefalling face first off a 10 story building into the punch.
Oh, and he's now made his Twitter feed private. And just to add a little bit more hypocrisy to all this stupidity, in the middle of all of this he posted the video of Markos Moulitsas making a completely accurate statement about Tom Tancredo as "proof that liberals are classless assholes."
So for those of you scoring at home: Pointing out -- accurately -- that a former legislator refused to fight in a war he supported despite being of draft age makes you a "classless asshole." Calling a legislator a "fucking gook" and telling him to go back to his own country for casting a vote one doesn't like is perfectly fine. You really have to marvel at his total immunity to irony.
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"My Uncle served in Vietnam all he could stab this Country in the back."
"Some of us, have not forgotten what happened on Dec 7, 1941 either!"
Yeah I think so of them have forgotten what happened on Dec 7, 1941 if they think that Vietnam was involved.
Posted by: JohnV | November 10, 2009 9:40 AM
Jolly fun, this. Pat is in rare form indeed.
Making twitter private? Not much point in that is there? Just drop those 140 characters in the bit bucket and save the bandwidth...
Posted by: MikeMa | November 10, 2009 9:45 AM
Cao lives in a highly Democratic district and only won in 2008 because he was running against William "cold cash" Jefferson. Evidently Pat thinks that all Republicans should represent his desires rather than those of their constituents.
Posted by: Alan B. | November 10, 2009 9:52 AM
Here's a pic of Mr. "Single, unemployed, living in Mom's basement, looking for girlfriend, must be slim, gorgeous!1
http://our.gop.com/RightBloggerPat
Posted by: trog69 | November 10, 2009 9:54 AM
Careful, trog69, you don't want to make him think you're stalking him...
Posted by: Squiddhartha | November 10, 2009 9:59 AM
Oh. My. God.
Posted by: wheatdogg | November 10, 2009 9:59 AM
Isn't blaming the Vietnamese for Japanese aggression during WWII kind of like blaming the French for the Holocaust?
Posted by: DaveL | November 10, 2009 10:03 AM
He needs to get that double chin a little closer to the razor when he shaves.
Posted by: Chilidog | November 10, 2009 10:03 AM
I can't even begin to address Pat's racism, though. Apart from being appalling, it's not even grounded in reality to suggest that China, Korea, Vietnam, and Japan are united in any purpose, let alone an anti-American one. But that's just reality's well-known liberal bias showing again, I suppose...
Posted by: Squiddhartha | November 10, 2009 10:04 AM
Ed, you forget: it ain't irony if I know I'm right and know you're wrong. If you're wrong, then what you think is irony is just more wrongness. If I'm right, then what looks to you like my irony is just a cloud of your stupidity distracting you from realizing just how stupidly wrong you are, which will not happen because, ironically, you're a liberal which means your deep interest in irony is a congenital condition which prevents you from changing your mind.
On a more serious note, why do we care about Pat? Obviously the Pats of the world (the ones elected to Congress and running LGF, et al) are pushing a large and festering raft of claims into the marketplace of ideas; these claims jostle and adhere together like pack ice and give bad journalists a way to stay relevantly rich by reporting what their customers want to hear. But the spectrum of people who operate this way are utterly immune to reason or persuasion, from the frothing shouters at tea-bag rallies up to the K-street whores and reptilian millionaires who suckle them.
It is gratifying to needle them, and they needle easy. But the transparent foolishness of their positions is a clue that the positions aren't relevant to any actual dialogue. I'm starting to wonder if we should just ignore them and take a new tack.
ice9
Posted by: ice9 | November 10, 2009 10:05 AM
His Gop.com blog has this; Can someone enlighten me to what he's talking about?
Disclosure: I am not, nor have I ever been, a member of the Republican Party. Heck, I'd join, but I am unemployed at the moment and I cannot afford the membership. Thanks to the Democrats stupidity here in Michigan.
Do you have to pay to be a Republican in Michigan?
Posted by: trog69 | November 10, 2009 10:06 AM
DaveL, more like blaming Uruguay for the Holocaust. Blaming Korea would be like blaming France, I think.
Posted by: Squiddhartha | November 10, 2009 10:07 AM
God, teabaggers are the single best thing to come out of politics in decades. I've met lizard people theorists with more consistent grips on reality.
Posted by: schism | November 10, 2009 10:07 AM
@trog69, Pat's yucky.
Posted by: Owen | November 10, 2009 10:14 AM
Hey, don't run down the Lizard People guy. The weirdness of that ballot probably did more than anything else to focus Minnesotans on the recount instead of the hot-button yapping of the Coleman campaign. We were shocked to find out just how bad the current system is at counting votes--and Minnesota is #1 in turnout. Also, the guy went on the radio here and made a weird and kind of charming case for wasting his vote. I'm a fan.
ice9
Posted by: ice9 | November 10, 2009 10:18 AM
Owen, I think you're just trying to get me out of the picture so that you can ask him out on a date. I'm not quitting him that easily!
Posted by: trog69 | November 10, 2009 10:20 AM
For the record, I'm no longer following Pat and feeding his swill to anyone. I gave up on him a couple of days after Ed posted his last blog post on Ed.
Secondly I humbly concede there is no hope for Pat. I claimed there was after perusing his entire blog site in our first go round with young Pat. I then proceeded to provide him with some right wing reading materials that might get him to think, act, and argue more rationally. He rejected my offer to counsel. Therefore Ed was correct in dissenting to my assertion Pat was salvageable from a life of incompetence, ignorance, delusion, irrational and unthinking submissiveness to his group, bigotry and hatred. This sort of rant coupled to all our other findings is a convincing argument that Pat is incapable of being a moral creature with integrity.
Personally I find the insults regarding his physical appearance bigoted and not helpful to our cause either. We are better than that. Liberals should not obtain their insults from the conservative playbook, one loses the moral highground.
Posted by: Michael Heath | November 10, 2009 10:20 AM
Yeah, that Pat really looks like he's in shape to woop anyone's ass, I tell ya. I'm shakin' in my boots here.
And I thought the GOP were the party of personal responsibility?? Yet it seems anytime something like being unemployed comes up, it's the dems' fault. I wonder if he's getting any of that socialist unemployment, welfare, or other federal assistance?
Posted by: FastLane | November 10, 2009 10:21 AM
Pat's a great success in a world where education, clarity, consistency, and thoughtful moderation are weaknesses. That doesn't mean that he can't claim those qualities, by the way, but based on his work I'd say he probably can't; I think he's mentally ill. But there are lots of people who can write or speak clearly and moderately but choose not to. That may be the definition of a demagogue, I'm not sure. But they are worthier opponents than Pat, and do far more damage.
Speaking of Franken the commedian, unfit to serve in Congress, etc.--he's working out pretty well:
http://www.startribune.com/politics/69624777.html?elr=KArksUUUycaEacyU
ice9
Posted by: ice9 | November 10, 2009 10:27 AM
Holy crap. I saw this on Wonkette but it never occurred to me that it might be the same dude! Classic.
Posted by: peaches | November 10, 2009 10:37 AM
Just hold on a minute! Paying back debts and being financially responsible? That's not what Republicans are all about! Oh, wait...
Posted by: catgirl | November 10, 2009 10:44 AM
Michael Heath, I agree that pointing out physical imperfections is base, I would point out that Patty himself decided that he would be like only "thin" and "long-haired" gals. I'm merely helping him winnow those who might not have the attributes he desires by showing them what they're missing by not dieting excessively and avoiding the hair salons.
Posted by: trog69 | November 10, 2009 10:46 AM
But intimidation isn't what people like us do with addresses... we sign people up for annoying mailings. Lots and lots of annoying mailings.
Posted by: ThatOtherGuy | November 10, 2009 10:46 AM
It's almost worth putting up with regular trolls just to encounter gems like this. Sometimes you just find one that is hilariously stupid. Just yesterday I found a troll on a different blog who didn't understand that plants reproduce sexually, and it was quite fun. Not only did he go on and on about how basic biology is wrong, another troll on the thread even backed him up. It was the best laugh I had had in awhile.
Posted by: catgirl | November 10, 2009 10:50 AM
Another reason twitter is way better than people give it credit.
Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | November 10, 2009 10:55 AM
@Catgirl
Link please! I'd like to add that to my collection right along with the creationist who thought cows and bulls were different species, the one who thought butterflies had uteruses and the one who asked how evolution could explain how something as simple as an amoeba could have the instinct to look after its young.
Posted by: DaveL | November 10, 2009 10:56 AM
DaveL,
It's a very long post about abortion and it's over 400 comments (and might be still going). I was thinking of summarizing the finer points when I get a chance, but here's the link:
http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/misogyny_hijacks_health_care_reform_vote/
It starts around comment #348, with me presenting the analogy that an apple seed is at the same stage of development as the fertilized eggs that are left over from IFV. The troll's name is Austin Nedved, if that makes it easier for you to follow. There's plenty of other stuff going on in that thread that's not as hilarious.
The sad thing is, I don't think this troll is even a creationist, just very, very stupid about biology. There's even a point where he claims that a "male" seed might or might not be fertilized by a female somehow, but it's not necessary for a tree to grow, because it's like adding salt to food. He claims later that he got the terms "male" and "female" mixed up, but I'm not buying it.
Posted by: catgirl | November 10, 2009 11:04 AM
Isn't blaming the Vietnamese for Japanese aggression during WWII kind of like blaming the French for the Holocaust?
Well, you see, all them Asians look alike, with their squinty eyes, so they're all pretty much the exact same people. Different linguistic branches and ethnic groups? That's classless liberal talk! Besides, everybody knows that they all eat rats and dogs over there.
Posted by: Sadie Morrison | November 10, 2009 11:09 AM
Jesus H. Christ, the guy looks exactly like Gribbit. Twins separated at birth?
do you really think that I give two shits
He doesn't have two shits to give. If he were to excrete even one, his cranium would be completely hollow.
Posted by: Kevin Beck | November 10, 2009 11:21 AM
So, the story goes like this.
Jonah Goldberg is sitting in a bar in the District, sucking down a few martinis. He sees an asian sitting a few stools down, sneaks up behind him and knocks him off his barstool. The fellow is laying on the floor, stunned for a moment. He says, "What the hell are you doing?" Goldberg says, "I'm Jonah Goldberg and you japs attacked us at Pearl Harbor!." The fellow on the floor says, "I'm not japanese, I'm chinese you fool!". Jonah's reply: "Japanese, Chinese, Vietnamese all you gooks are the same!".
Jonah, feeling quite pleased with himself, turns to go back to his drink. All of a sudden, WHAM!, he gets hit from behind by a barstool. He groans and rolls over to see the man HE just attacked holding a barstool, poised for another blow. He bleats, "What are you doing!?". The chinese man says, "My grandfather was a stoker on the Titanic and YOU sank that ship, murdering him!". Jonah says, "That was an iceberg you idiot, I'm a Goldberg". The chinese man hefts the chair for another blow and says, "Iceberg, Steinberg, Goldberg--they're all the same to me!".
Posted by: democommie | November 10, 2009 11:27 AM
The comparison to France and the Holocaust isn't a good one since the Vichy government cooperated with the Nazis in sending Jews and other targeted groups to the concentration camps.
A better analogy might be blaming Belgium or Denmark for the Holocaust.
Posted by: Joshua Zelinsky | November 10, 2009 11:28 AM
@DavidL David, i like to mess with peoples heads and ask them: "what's the name of that animal?" "It's a Cow," they reply. "No, a cow is it's sex. Cow means female and bull means male, what is the name of the animal? You have bull and cow elephants, bull and cow walruses, what is the name of that animal?"
You should see the blank looks that gets.
Posted by: Chilidog | November 10, 2009 11:29 AM
Agreed here. But can I say it's at least a little refreshing to see people around here criticizing a male's appearance for once? Granted, if his gender were flipped but with roughly the same physical attributes and demands for the opposite sex, I'm sure it would be much worse. I cringe every time I see someone stoop to this level, especially when they're on my side of the argument. I fully believe in holding my friends to a higher standard than my enemies.
I don't even mind someone unattractive who demands attractiveness in the opposite. It's easily possible the sum total of their personality, intelligence, wealth, etc. merits it. In Pat's case... he'd better be a secret billionaire, but I digress.
Posted by: Infophile | November 10, 2009 11:30 AM
trog69, Foiled again! LOL!
Posted by: Owen | November 10, 2009 11:37 AM
It's things like this that make me wish there was an IQ requirement for people to vote.
I don't care how antithetical to your probably-too-broad idea of democracy it is, if someone's a fuckin' moron they better not be voting.
Posted by: Katharine | November 10, 2009 11:48 AM
chilidog,
According to wikipedia there is no singular non-gendered English term for Bos primigenius
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle#Singular_terminology_dilemma
but you probably knew that
Posted by: Matty | November 10, 2009 11:51 AM
Well, darn. I finally started a Twitter account because of the Drew Carey thing, and now I can't even follow the insane rantings of a racist right-wing douchebag. No fair.
Posted by: Gretchen | November 10, 2009 11:53 AM
A better analogy might be blaming Belgium or Denmark for the Holocaust.
True story: my Swedish-born grandmother owns a business in central Wichita, Kansas. She has a delightful anecdote about the summer of 1991, during the anti-choice "Summer of Mercy" protests, when anti-abortion protesters were swarming the city, and many of them were gathered in the neighborhoods near my grandma's store. They would come inside to use the store's bathroom and drinking fountain, only to harass and harangue my grandmother for not being outside railing against reproductive freedom. Anyway, one of them said to her, " How can you live with yourself?! All those millions of people!"
My grandma was naturally confused. When she asked the guy to explain what he meant, he told her that "her people" had killed millions of people in the Holocaust. My grandma then told him that she was Swedish, not German.
The guy sneered. "Swedes, Germans...they're all the same."
Posted by: Sadie Morrison | November 10, 2009 12:05 PM
Matty, Wikipedia is, as usual, wrong. The name of the animal is obvious when you think of it.
Beef. (singular), Beeve (plural)
Posted by: Chilidog | November 10, 2009 12:07 PM
So this poor guy thinks that he's heroically fighting against the Yellow Peril? That he's up against Dr Fu Manchu, or something?
Posted by: Christophe Thill | November 10, 2009 12:08 PM
Yeah, but some of the biggest morons I've ever met do well on IQ tests.
Posted by: Owen | November 10, 2009 12:09 PM
... but still, let's not be too critical with him. There are some bad things he'll never do. For instance, there's very little chance that he becomes a wife beater one day.
Posted by: Christophe Thill | November 10, 2009 12:10 PM
wow .. after viewing his pic.. I totally understand his anger. One wonders what remnants of snacks lurk between those chins.
I would tell him to get a life.. however that would involve blasting that massive butt up off the chair and actually going out into the world.. I am not sure any of us could stand it.
Posted by: Lise | November 10, 2009 12:14 PM
Pat makes me think of Ed Anger from World weekly News, though not as charming or intelligent.
Posted by: Kruppshin | November 10, 2009 12:14 PM
@Chilidog #32
http://xkcd.com/169/
Posted by: TSFN | November 10, 2009 12:19 PM
Was it over when the Vietnamese bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell, no!
Was it over when Denmark gassed the Swedes? Hell, no!
Was it over when the Republicans opposed rational health care options for American citizens? Umm, yeah, yeah it kind of was over for them at that point.
I forget; why is Pat opposed to health care, again?
And why is it that he seems to dimly recall a war in Vietnam but cannot recall that the people of South Vietnam were OUR ALLIES.
THAT WE LEFT BEHIND ON THE BATTLEFIELD WHEN WE FLED SAIGON.
WHO THEN HAD TO FLEE BY THEMSELVES IN ROWBOATS AND ON RAFTS INTO THE PACIFIC OCEAN IN A HARROWING ATTEMPT TO REACH THE U.S., DURING WHICH MANY OF THEM DIED AT SEA.
IN A NATIONAL EMBARRASSMENT THAT SANE PEOPLE AVOID MENTIONING IN POLITE COMPANY TO THIS DAY.
To paraphrase Dan Akroyd, "Pat, you ignorant slut."
Posted by: threetorches | November 10, 2009 12:23 PM
Posted by: havoc | November 10, 2009 12:23 PM
Vietnam was involved with Pearl Harbor, just like Iraq was involved with 9/11.
Posted by: AL | November 10, 2009 12:29 PM
RE: Catgirl and plants and seeds.
The equivalency between the seed and human reproduction is even more troublesome for this Austin person than is argued in that thread. What's inside the seed is *not* equivalent to a zygote. It's far beyond that stage. What's inside a seed is essentially a food source and a pretty much fully formed "baby" plant, complete with tiny leaf-like structures and a tiny root structure. When the seed germinates, this tiny plant is ready to immediately begin to expand and grow, using the stored food in the seed until it can poke out into the sunlight, at which time those tiny leaves immediately expand and start photosynthesizing. So that "baby" inside that seed is much more like a near-term fetus than a zygote!
Posted by: Lynn Fancher | November 10, 2009 12:31 PM
@TSFN #45 You aren't making much sense, did you go out into the sun without yout puggry on?
Posted by: Chilidog | November 10, 2009 12:49 PM
Posted by: Johnny Clamboat | November 10, 2009 12:53 PM
Pat, if you read this, don't let the comments from rational, thinking people get you down. You have the right to post whatever bs you want. I guess, what I'm saying is, "Keep your chins up!"
Posted by: Pity for Pat | November 10, 2009 12:59 PM
I'm ashamed that I actually expressed some sympathy for this guy.
Posted by: Savagemutt | November 10, 2009 1:18 PM
Three Words:
Oh, Fuck you.
Pedophile asshat.
Posted by: Pat | November 10, 2009 1:20 PM
*gets popcorn*
Posted by: JohnV | November 10, 2009 1:24 PM
Oh, look, the triple-chinned moron can't bring a substantive argument so he goes 'fuck you!' and calls people pedophiles without proof.
Hilarious.
Posted by: Katharine | November 10, 2009 1:25 PM
Pat: That's five words. And do you have a cite for your pedophile accusation?
Posted by: jba | November 10, 2009 1:27 PM
Pat: That's five words.
Posted by: Modusoperandi | November 10, 2009 1:27 PM
jba: Jinx!
Posted by: Modusoperandi | November 10, 2009 1:29 PM
Aww...poor Pat! So much wrong with his so-called life that he can blame the world for.
And alas--don't assume he'll never be able to breed. I've no doubt there are some women out there just as dysfunctional as he is whose life ambition is to enter into a co-dependent relationship with someone like Pat--oh wait, she'd have to be skinny and blonde. Never mind.
Posted by: gary l. day | November 10, 2009 1:32 PM
@Modusoperandi: As Pat has already demonstrated, counting is one of the many things at which he proves inept.
Posted by: Sadie Morrison | November 10, 2009 1:34 PM
Given the strong penchant for psychological projection Pat has exhibited so far, this comment makes me inclined to think he's probably a pedophile, too.
Posted by: Wes | November 10, 2009 1:36 PM
Oops, wrong iPhone-related post. Try this one.
Posted by: Sadie Morrison | November 10, 2009 1:45 PM
@Chilidog #50
http://www.partiallyclips.com/index.php?id=1226
Posted by: TSFN | November 10, 2009 2:00 PM
@catgirl #27
That thread got better. Someone points out the natural family planning is almost impossible with irregular cycles.
Austin replies:
Someone points out the obvious that the treatment for irregular cycles is hormonal birth control.
To which he replies:
There you have it folks. Magical hormone pills that only prevent pregnancy if you have regular cycles!
Posted by: Kierra | November 10, 2009 2:01 PM
I wish that if people like Pat are going to crap all over the internet, they would at least learn how to write a paragraph. Even a real sentence once in awhile would be nice. It really isn't that difficult.
Posted by: Elaine | November 10, 2009 2:35 PM
Actually, Pat did stick to three words. The last two words are his signature.
Posted by: James Hanley | November 10, 2009 2:55 PM
OMFG. I really should have stuck around longer on that thread to hear this! Maybe I should go back and read the rest, but then I'll be tempted to correct his inane comments, and I'll get sucked into a troll-feeding loop, rather than just having fun with him the way my cat torments an insect before letting it go (yes, my cat is weird like that).
Posted by: catgirl | November 10, 2009 2:59 PM
@ threetorches #46
Um, no. The government of South Vietnam was the ally. Along with maybe 15% of the people. And probably more than 20% were our enemies. And the rest just wanted the war to stop.
Posted by: natural cynic | November 10, 2009 2:59 PM
Chilidog @50
TSFN's point is obvious when you think about it...
Posted by: TBRP | November 10, 2009 3:22 PM
@67
Hanley wins this thread.
Assist to the moran for the set-up.
Posted by: SharonB | November 10, 2009 3:32 PM
@ 69
Umm, actually my point was directed at the insanity of attacking a gentleman of Vietnamese ancestry, calling him a gook, and ordering him "back to Saigon" thereby heaping scorn and abuse on someone who likely suffered greatly in his youth, along with his family, as a result of a confusing war in which the United States was ostensibly supporting the South Vietnamese, in particular the people most likely to have survived the subsequent purge and flight to the West, and then LEFT THEM ALL TO DIE.
Sorry if my "skewed view" left you unable to determine whether or not I am capable of drawing a distinction between the peasants, the soldiers, and the commanders of a war-time ally, or in ordering the relative political power of those groups, in a far-flung Eastern cultural milieu that no longer exists due to the complicated political wranglings of powerful Cold War interests.
What I do know is that anyone of Vietnamese ancestry that made it out of that hell-hole and into the United States despite our shameful desertion (that left thousands of people exposed to the most vile kinds of torture and deprivation at the hands of a vicious and vengeful enemy) deserves our respect, and admiration, and maybe even contrition.
He certainly does not deserve the kind of abuse he is taking from Pat.
I'll try to be more clear in the future.
Posted by: threetorches | November 10, 2009 5:18 PM
Stop giving Pat a hard time. People like him are what drive endlessly entertaining websites like Fundies Say the Darndest Things. The internetz would just not be the awesome that it is without this sort of fail.
Posted by: AL | November 10, 2009 6:10 PM
The irony, of course, it that Pat the gook-caller has more chins than a chinese phonebook:
http://our.gop.com/RightBloggerPat
Posted by: Pat's abused tube socks. | November 10, 2009 6:15 PM
Wow, Pat is an utter moron.
First, he spouts moronic racist crap that one would expect from the 40s when major news services had public service announcements helping people figure out who the "good chinks" were from the "bad japs" so idiots like Pat would quit beating the shit out of innocent people who weren't even of the ancestry involved in Pearl Harbor. That he makes comments like this in the 21st century is quite disturbing.
Then, for him to tell Congressman Cao to "go back to Saigon" at the same time he touts his uncles service is unbelievable. He must not have even bothered to look at the guy's profile or even Wikipedia. His father served in the RVA (IE was his uncle's Ally) and ended up surviving 8 years in an NVA POW/re-education camp.
Pat is a complete waste of human flesh.
Posted by: dogmeatib | November 10, 2009 6:56 PM
Pat's our.gop.com site has updates on his now private twitter account:
Ah, yes, the "snarky humor" of calling people gooks is just too snark for a "tool" like Ed to comprehend.
Posted by: Wes | November 10, 2009 7:08 PM
Pat was responding to a tweet from one of his intellectual equals, Architekt0010:
I'm sure lots of things are a challenge for these two.
Posted by: Wes | November 10, 2009 7:33 PM
@74
Lol, reminds me of "Gomer Pyle" from Full Metal Jacket.
Posted by: Harry Bosch | November 10, 2009 7:42 PM
That "3" words thing has been cracking me up all day. I read it at lunch, but I had to come back and read it again so I could laugh some more.
Posted by: Leni | November 10, 2009 7:55 PM
Wes@77 - you took the words right out of my mouth. I know some "retards" - kids in spec ed with developmental disabilities (and no, I don't take offense at the 'tard jokes - I make them myself - probably shouldn't, though...) who really could give Pat and his goon friends a good intellectual whacking. They also have a lot more humanity and empathy, that's for sure.
Posted by: Badger3k | November 10, 2009 8:27 PM
Posted by: James Hanley | November 10, 2009 8:37 PM
There needs to be a blogger's Hall of Fame to capture this blog post given Pat's response @ 54 and James Hanley's @ 67.
Posted by: Michael Heath | November 10, 2009 9:06 PM
(all beef) Pat(ty) - WORSE. COMMENT. EVER. :) - DJ
Posted by: DingoJack | November 10, 2009 11:11 PM
Anyone else think there's an uncanny resemblance between Pat and Jeff Albertson? - DJ
Posted by: DingoJack | November 10, 2009 11:16 PM
You have bull and cow elephants, bull and cow walruses, what is the name of that animal?
Bessie?
Posted by: windy | November 11, 2009 2:29 AM
December 7th(or 8th), 1941 is also when Japan invaded....French Indochina (Vietnam).
The tard is strong with these people.
Posted by: Ick of the East | November 11, 2009 9:06 AM
Sent Pat an e-mail a few weeks ago encouraging him to Be A Man, Enlist! And he informed me he was 37 yrs old with 2, count'em 2, bad knees. Now, if you will go to Operation Yellow Elephant, you can see an article touting the patriotism of a 41 yr old. Pat, fails to understand that if he were to Be A Man and Enlist! the military would pay for his bad knees to be fixed. Wait, that would be funded by the government, which means that all our boys in uniform are being treated by commies and marxists. Wait another minute, that means our boys in uniform are really the RED ARMY! Wait, wait, does this mean that the teabaggers are right? Commies, Nazis, and Queers, oh my! from a veteran to all, Happy Veterans Day JMP
Posted by: James M Phillips | November 11, 2009 1:38 PM
James M. Phillips:
The same to you. Happy Veterans' Day.
Posted by: democommie | November 11, 2009 2:00 PM
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Pat, You really should reconsider and Be A Man, Enlist! I know you have bad knees but the military will cover all your medical expenses and as far as being 37 years old, they will take you up to the age of 41. I would myself but I am 45 and I already served with an honorable discharge. Besides from what I saw of your picture and heard about you on Ed Brayton’s site, you could use the money and the exercise. Plus, with your obvious love of the Corps, you would get to kill all the ragheads you could eat. I dare you to post this you sissy chickenhawk! James M. Phillips
my latest missive to our boy Pat! BTW, THanks Demmo love you and the General.
Posted by: James M, Phillips | November 11, 2009 2:14 PM
Patrick to me
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Oh, Fuck you.
-Patrick
http://www.politicalbyline.com
... and Pat's PATented reply.
Posted by: James M. Phillips | November 11, 2009 2:20 PM
Really? I'm surprised that you would say such an offensive thing to a Veteran on Veteran's Day.
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my email reply to Pat.
Posted by: James M. Phillips | November 11, 2009 2:24 PM
and I meant every fucking word of it... You forgot to include my second reply:
Well, sir, I am just sick and fucking tired of people trying to lecture me; especially people that I don't even know. You know jack SHIT about my personal life. Except for what I write on my blog. There's much more that you or anyone else will never fucking know about me, my family, and my personal life.
No please, go away.
-Patrick
http://www.politicalbyline.com
and this assholes reply?
Then maybe you should reconsider lecturing and threatening people you don't know, And, yes I have kept up with what you have written on you own site and others such as Ed's. You obvious projection and need for control over others is showing like a willie pete in the jungle at midnight. James M. Phillips
and my reply here:
Hey asshole, it's a free fucking Country. I will write what a please on my blog. You don't like it. Don't fucking read it. Just that fucking simple.
Good day.
-Pat
Posted by: Pat | November 11, 2009 2:41 PM
Hey Pat, thanks for stopping by again. I needed something to laugh at today.
Happy vets day to you JMP. I didn't serve, but I grew up in the military, so I feel like I got my 20 years in. =P
Posted by: FastLane | November 11, 2009 2:47 PM
Ironic statement coming from the guy who threatened to send the police after someone for writing a blog post he didn't like. Who then tried to send his goons after the blogger. And who then cried when some other party did it to him.
Thanks for the many minutes of fun of laughing at you that you've provided us, pat.
Posted by: JohnV | November 11, 2009 2:49 PM
Whatever. This Bullshit of e-mail me for a reply and posting here is about fucking juvenile. Ya'll need to grow the fuck up.
I guess it's the price I pay for believing in Conservative value. It is quite worth it.
Posted by: Pat | November 11, 2009 2:50 PM
Somehow, I think this is appropiate for this situation:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3293/3117393037_cd2c1b3e84_o.jpg
Posted by: AV | November 11, 2009 2:53 PM
"Ya'll need to grow the fuck up."
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34748338@N00/3945002962/sizes/o/
Posted by: JohnV | November 11, 2009 2:55 PM
Whatever. You all think that this asshole Ed is so wonderful, because he likes to Mock the right, Religion, and Creationists.
When in all honestly, he is a small petty man, with possibly gay tendencies. Not to mention, not much of a life. and you sheeple follow him, like a lost little bastards.
You deserve what brain scrapings that you get from this idiotic ass.
Posted by: Pat | November 11, 2009 3:00 PM
FTFY.
Posted by: Joé McKen | November 11, 2009 3:11 PM
Yeah, Pat, whereas you have the temerity to call yourself a Christian while being a vile, potty-mouthed racist. So do you think Michelle Malkin or the majority of (Republican) Vietnamese Americans who wouldn't and didn't agree with Rep. Cao's vote are evil, untrustworthy "gooks" as well?
But it is nice to see other conservatives/teabaggers on Twitter and elsewhere now condemning you, and rightly so.
"When in all honestly, he is a small petty man...Not to mention, not much of a life."
Because judging from your pathetic GOP.com pic and description of yourself there, you obviously have so much of a life. Pot, meet kettle.
Posted by: Jeremy | November 11, 2009 4:16 PM
fastlane thanks and back at you! And my reply to Pat's last email
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Sorry for the delay. I was called into work. Pat, you are absolutely correct and that is why I served. You however seem to misunderstand my position. My position is this very simply. While I may disagree with what you say I will die fighting for your right to say it. Now correct me if I'm wrong but, what I take from what I've read of your writings, if your not a conservative right wing republican then you are not a true American. Is that about right? thanks JMP
Posted by: James M, Phillips | November 11, 2009 4:34 PM
You know what, folks? Just for continuity, the entire exchange thus far, by the way Paula is my wife. Also the oh, fuck you was prompted by my suggestion that Pat Be A Man, Enlist!:
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Patrick wrote:
Oh, Fuck you.
-Patrick
http://www.politicalbyline.com
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Well, sir, I am just sick and fucking tired of people trying to lecture me; especially people that I don't even know. You know jack SHIT about my personal life. Except for what I write on my blog. There's much more that you or anyone else will never fucking know about me, my family, and my personal life.
No please, go away.
-Patrick
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Then maybe you should reconsider lecturing and threatening people you don't know, And, yes I have kept up with what you have written on you own site and others such as Ed's. You obvious projection and need for control over others is showing like a willie pete in the jungle at midnight. James M. Phillips
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Hey asshole, it's a free fucking Country. I will write what a please on my blog. You don't like it. Don't fucking read it. Just that fucking simple.
Good day.
-Pat
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Sorry for the delay. I was called into work. Pat, you are absolutely correct and that is why I served. You however seem to misunderstand my position. My position is this very simply. While I may disagree with what you say I will die fighting for your right to say it. Now correct me if I'm wrong but, what I take from what I've read of your writings, if your not a conservative right wing republican then you are not a true American. Is that about right? thanks JMP
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Posted by: James M. Phillips | November 11, 2009 4:53 PM
Since he is not going to publish my e-mail that I wrote back....I'll do it:
You quite obviously do not read my blog, at all.
I really do not want to have this discussion with you at all.
However, because you're such like a small child, that will not do what it is told. I will answer your idiotic question.
I am not, nor have I ever been, and unless that party makes some HUGE changes; a Republican. I am an Independent Conservative. I voted, as it says on my Blog, for the libertarian ticket. Did I agree with ALL of Bob Barr's running platform? No. But I wasn't about to vote for the Socialist.
I am just going to tell it like it is, if you want to run back to that stupid forum and post what I write, fine, I really do not care.
My feelings about the Democratic Party changed during this past election cycle. How so? You could say that, when I saw the cutting oil that was put on the Vietnam War memorial in D.C. by anti-war protesters; and the lack of outcry from the Democratic Party, that it changed me. You could say that, when I figured out that the DNC is all about Identity Politics and stirring up Black hatred towards whites, that it changed me. Which is pretty fucking ironic seeing my family, nor anyone up the food chain from me ever even owned slaves. Further more, it is pretty fucking ironic, that the democratic Party was for the oppression and outright segregation of the Negro race for years and lets not even talk about the fucking civil war. That is, until someone figured out that you "Use them there Niggers for a vote...." I say that in the voice of those who made that little decision. --- You could say that when I figured out that the Democratic Party is about herding people up and putting them into categories for the purposes of getting their votes, that it changed me.
Now, do I believe that Democrats are Unamerican? Not all of them, some, like the so-called "Blue dogs" are not. But the far left progressives are Anti-American as fucking hell.
I'm just gonna tell you straight sir, I am a Conservative, and I make no damn bones about it. I don't owe you or that foggot idiot that runs that board an apology for my beliefs. This is still fucking America and you damn Communist Liberals haven't taken my right to free speech away. Don't like it, too bad. I owe yo liberal bastards jack fucking shit.
Good day!
-Patrick
http://www.politicalbyline.com
his response?
Pat. read my previous email and settle down it can't be good for your heart to get that upset. Oh yeah, your welcome! JMP
my reply:
See? When you don't have a good response. You retort with dumb stuff like that.
Which is another reason why I do not bother with answering idiots like you.
...and then he comes back with the classic liberal line:
So, let me get this straight. My saying that I would die fighting for your right to say whatever you want, even when I disagree is a "dumb retort"? I'm sorry I thought that was the foundation of this country and the ideals put forth by the Founding Fathers. Or, do you come from the George W. Bush school that states the Constitution "is just a fucking piece of paper"?
Blame Bush, when you disagree with me.
How lame.
-Pat
Posted by: Pat | November 11, 2009 5:07 PM
After that one, I believe Pat owes a number of us a new irony-o-meter.
Posted by: dogmeatib | November 11, 2009 5:13 PM
Pat, I was busy writing you back on email and cooking supper for my wife and kids. I am humbly not the man you are when it comes to typing with one hand JMP
Posted by: James M, Phillips | November 11, 2009 5:17 PM
So, no repsonse to my question? Very sad and indicative of your lack of critical thinking. Most of the time people like yourself dodge and evade answers that make them uncomfortable. But I think you are evading because of your unwillingness to admit someone besides yourself is right. Maybe, maybe not. Only you know for sure. thanks JMP
Posted by: James M. Phillips | November 11, 2009 5:18 PM
You're projecting again patty m'girl. When you have an internet tough guy like yourself who threatens people but doesn't have the actual strength of conviction to serve in the armed forces, you have a small, petty "man." The gay tendencies comment is especially amusing given your comments both here, on your blog, and with your tweets.
You really shouldn't be offering brain scrapings, you don't have the brains to spare.
Posted by: dogmeatib | November 11, 2009 5:19 PM
Pat, I would love to do this all night. However, there is more to my life than trying bait others with vile language and evasive crap like yourself. Or in my case, facts, questions, and honest dialogue. And so with that, adieu mon amis. And yes I will keep reading, and laughing at, your blog. Thany ever so much James M. Phillips
Posted by: James M, Phillips | November 11, 2009 5:25 PM
Yeah, Sure, take care Hippy Man!
Posted by: Pat | November 11, 2009 5:28 PM
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Can't finish the conversation; because you know I am right.
As I said there.
Take care Hippy Man!
-Patrick
http://www.politicalbyline.com Sorry, had to do it. I am so bad JMP
Posted by: James M, Phillips | November 11, 2009 5:36 PM
I guess we should not be surprised to learn that Pat's perfectly ignorant that the reason the Democratic party was historically dominated by racists until the late 1950s/mid-1960s was because it was populated at that point by Southern conservatives who dominated the Senate for 75+ years until LBJ left that caucus in the mid-50s to work with liberal Democratic Sen. Hubert Humphrey.
The fact that those conservatives have almost completely moved over to the Republican party and have come to dominate it, and that his blog posts indicates that he shares the very same ideology in non-racist matters and tendencies towards racism - though possibly of different skin colors than the old guard, seems to have gone completely over his brain stem.
Also, Pat - it's President Obama, not "Barry". You may not like him, but he's holds the office of the President of the United States because more Americans voted for him than any other candidate. And as much as I came to despise President George W. Bush's record and character, I always referred to him with respect, such as President Bush 43 or other descriptive moniker that showed the office respect.
I also get a kick out how Pat wants to honor the Marines with a blog post, but is too childish to handle criticism coming from a real Marine where he won't post that Marine's comments (at least he hadn't as of 5:32 p.m.).
Mr. Philips, while I agree with your advice to Pat, it appears he does not possess the character and discipline necessary to make it out of bed for the first reveille let alone become a Marine. Also, thank-you for your service to our country.
Posted by: Michael Heath | November 11, 2009 5:39 PM
Actually he was comparing your moronic stance on the Constitution to Dubya's. It wasn't a transference of blame it was pointing out that your lack of understanding of the constitution fits in well with other poorly read, big mouth conservatives. You're not alone in your stupidity.
Posted by: dogmeatib | November 11, 2009 5:41 PM
There were some of our exchange that was left out...
Him:
So, no repsonse to my question? Very sad and indicative of your lack of critical thinking. Most of the time people like yourself dodge and evade answers that make them uncomfortable. But I think you are evading because of your unwillingness to admit someone besides yourself is right. Maybe, maybe not. Only you know for sure. thanks JMP
Me:
I didn't dodge anything.
The Constitution of the United States of America applies to U.S. Citizens and not to Non-Uniformed combatants. If that's what you're referring to.
Otherwise, Bush was not my favorite President, at all. I didn't agree with his going into Iraq. I've said that like 100 times on my blog. Further more, I did not like his style of leadership either.
I did, however, admire Reagan. But he was not perfect either.
You really should try reading my blog. It will answer much of what you asked.
Take care Liberal Hippy!
-Pat
-Patrick
http://www.politicalbyline.com
Him:
Pat, I would love to do this all night. However, there is more to my life than trying bait others with vile language and evasive crap like yourself. Or in my case, facts, questions, and honest dialogue. And so with that, adieu mon amis. And yes I will keep reading, and laughing at, your blog. Thank ever so much James M. Phillips
Me:
Can't finish the conversation; because you know I am right.
As I said there.
Take care Hippy Man!
======================
So, there you have it. An argument with a liberal. He lost the argument and he left. Like most liberals do. Start something and then not want to finish, when he sees that he cannot win the argument.
Conservatism is right, Socialist Liberalism is wrong. Learn it, Like it, and live with it.
Bu-bye!
-Pat
Posted by: Pat | November 11, 2009 6:19 PM
"Can't finish the conversation; because you know I am right."
And with that, Pat turned, stamped his slipper-clad foot, and left the room, secure in his knowledge that he had soundly thrashed yet another Evil Internet Liberal.
Relevant XKCD: http://xkcd.com/386/
--Marty (so glad I emailed Ed about this twerp...)
Posted by: Marty in Boise | November 11, 2009 6:20 PM
Pedophile Asshate Pat @103 wrote:
With all due respect to James, Ed and the other self-described Libertarians who comment on this blog, but P.A.Pat is just another one of the many types of weirdos who populate your party.
Between the P.A.Pat's, the pot-heads, the anti-authoritarians, the tax protestors and the military wannabes from the backwoods... nobody will even have time to listen to the rational aspects of Libertarianism that you provide.
Ed, I urge you to reconsider your political alignment with those like P.A.Pat.
Posted by: doctorgoo | November 11, 2009 6:27 PM
So your argument was...? I see you slinging insults, telling people "fuck you," making statements about Bush that are impossible to confirm unless your blog was around in 2002-2003 and you can link to posts where you said going into Iraq was a bad idea and you were against it? Otherwise you made unfounded statements, mangled the 1st amendment, showed a general lack of knowledge of all things ... well really, of all things.
Congratulations, you are a confirmed asshat.
Posted by: dogmeatib | November 11, 2009 6:48 PM
"and stirring up Black hatred towards whites, that it changed me. "
True story, people of all races creeds colors and religion hate shit heads like you, not just blacks.
Posted by: JohnV | November 11, 2009 6:55 PM
Also Patty-girl, on Veteran's day, it really should be "Hippy Man-SIR" to those of us "Hippy Men" who are veterans.
Posted by: dogmeatib | November 11, 2009 7:01 PM
I love how Pat apparently expects Mr. Phillips to feel insulted by the label "hippy."
Posted by: Sadie Morrison | November 11, 2009 7:12 PM
Sadie, I wear it with pride. Dr GOO, I am no libertarian sir, I am a far left liberal! The reason I quit posting earlier was because I was tired of and bored with Pat and his PATented PATriotic PABlumb(almost made it work). Thanks James M. Phillips
Posted by: James M. Phillips | November 11, 2009 7:28 PM
I apologize for that JMP... I was referring to Prof. Hanley in my comments. He's most often the only James on the any given thread here at Dispatches.
James and Ed (Brayton) also blog together at the Libertarian blog, www.PositiveLiberty.com. They represent the rational and (sometimes) left-leaning portion of the Libertarian spectrum.
Posted by: doctorgoo | November 11, 2009 7:41 PM
But, but, but James, liberal veterans don't exist!!! ;o)
If you listen to the reich wing, liberal veterans like James and I are the unicorns of the armed services.
Posted by: dogmeatib | November 11, 2009 7:41 PM
Dog, in the imortal words of Oddball in Kelly's Heros and I quote,"WOOF WOOF!"
Posted by: James M. Phillips | November 11, 2009 7:46 PM
"Grrrr WOOF! That's my other dog impression." :)
Oh and 'two all beef PATties' - "I don't expect you to win, I expect you to die."* LEST WE FORGET. - DJ
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*Mustafa Kemal Atatürk's famous order to the men under his command, defending the Gallipoli Peninsula.
Posted by: DingoJack | November 11, 2009 8:50 PM
Wait, wait. Ed has "gay tendencies"?
Oh my. Well that does it. I can no longer read this blog.
Ed, I've had enough of your damn-ed faggotry! This is the last straw. We've put up with your gay-like proclivities for long enough.
And for your information, sir, Pat has personally informed me that he has three more words for you:
"And those are the words of a gentleman. From the first moment I met you, your arrogance and conceit, your selfish disdain for the feelings of others made me realize that you were the last man in the world I could ever be prevailed upon to marry. "
You, sir, are not at all a gentlemen and there is no way in the world Pat would ever marry you. So take that.
Posted by: Leni | November 12, 2009 2:42 AM
I think Pat needs a fainting couch.
Posted by: democommie | November 12, 2009 4:01 AM
Leni... Heaven and earth! -- of what are you thinking? Are the shades of Dispatches to be thus polluted!?!!
Posted by: doctorgoo | November 12, 2009 7:13 AM
I've been mocked by some fellow soldiers for not being conservative.
Posted by: Josh | November 12, 2009 8:05 AM
Josh:
Thanks for your service. From what you've revealed about your career and your unit in some other blog posts I'm guessing that you deal just fine with such nonsense.
When I was an airman back in the day (68-72) most of the military folks I talked to (not just fellow airmen) were somewhat ambivalent about the Vietnam situation and not a conservatively monolithic group. Of course most of us were "getting out asses shot off dodgers" or draftees, but that's another story.;)
Posted by: democommie | November 12, 2009 8:45 AM
Pretty much, yeah. But I wish you could have been a fly on the wall last month. I got into a knock down-drag out with a team mate regarding Glenn Beck...
*eye roll*
Yeah, one of the things I find most interesting is how much emotional energy is tied up in convincing ourselves that OIF and OEF (well, actually GWOT overall) are just. Same thing happened during the Gulf. Rather than a lot of ambivalence, I see a distinctly bimodal distribution of views on current operational posture (and an unbalanced one at that...).
Posted by: Josh | November 12, 2009 9:24 AM
doctorgoo@115:
Yeah, I know. (Big sigh.) But every time I look at the Republicans or Democrats I seem them eagerly embracing the power of government to coerce people into behaving as they (the Repubs/Dems) want them to behave, even if the people aren't hurting anyone else with their behavior.Can we form a "live and let live" party?
Posted by: James Hanley | November 12, 2009 9:48 AM
James Hanley:
"Can we form a "live and let live" party?"
In a gesture of reconciliation I am willing to have my name co-opted in order to give birth to the LiberCommie party, of which I would grudgingly but dutifully serve as Ruler For Li--, I mean "Chairman".
I was interested in pushing the idea of my "Culling The Herd Party", whose only plank was, "Each of us will kill a useless scumbag every week, until they are gone". I abandoned the concept after the second attempt on my precious life.
Posted by: democommie | November 12, 2009 10:35 AM
I like the other idea, but I know there are a few people on this blog who would eagerly join and immediately start hunting me down.
Posted by: James Hanley | November 12, 2009 12:15 PM
Gentlemen, gentlemen, please. Lest we forget ourselves, this thread was originally about Ed getting onto Pat about his racist comments about Rep Cao and his vote on the health care reform bill. Of course it immediately degenerated into a verbal assault by everyone on Pat for his lack of civility and lack of gray matter. Now you digress into a discussion about the possibility of a viable (haha) third party? Maybe we should discuss your lack of gray matter(snark)?
Posted by: James M. Phillips | November 12, 2009 5:52 PM
How about the Mod Republicans form the "We like tax cuts and deregulation, but we don't really care what you do with your genitals Party, or the WLTCaDBWDRCWYDWYG*?
*In an odd coincidence, also the name of a Starwars character.
Posted by: Modusoperandi | November 12, 2009 6:46 PM
Modusoperandi:
Are you sure, that looks welsh.
James Hanley:
Yeah, but they're not doing it right. But my idea for a party is one that will let you have your dialectical materialism AND get stoned.
Posted by: democommie | November 12, 2009 9:38 PM
Pat @113: So, there you have it. An argument with a liberal. He lost the argument and he left. Like most liberals do. Start something and then not want to finish, when he sees that he cannot win the argument.
...which invites the obvious (and classic!) response: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKhEw7nD9C4&feature=related
Posted by: Eamon Knight | November 12, 2009 10:29 PM
The psychological projection is strong with this one.
Posted by: Wes | November 12, 2009 11:08 PM
Posted by: James Hanley | November 13, 2009 8:17 AM
Hanley: How about the Hands Off My Junk Party? I've always wanted to see a political party with a double entendre in its name.
Posted by: Mr. B | November 13, 2009 8:57 AM
What I found amusing about this is that Pat claimed victory when James "left," but he still had at least half a dozen liberals more than happy to point out his deficiencies and he left. Typical conservative attitude, claim victory and run away.
[Note to Pat-ty girl: If you do take the bait and come back to "battle" me, realize that I am going to be at work for the next few hours, so if I don't reply, I didn't run away, some of us have to support worthless unemployed conservative white trash like you.]
Have a nice day! ;o)
Posted by: dogmeatib | November 13, 2009 9:00 AM
democommie wrote:
We have one of those! Every fall a buddy and I take all the scotch whisky out of our cupboards and every bottle that is at 1/2 full or less is separated for the cull. We invite a bunch of people, put on our kilts, eat haggis, tatties & neeps, play Celtic music and do our best to cull the weak, infirm and aged (a 30 yo Highland Park is the oldest in the herd now) from the counter.
I have 23 bottles in the cupboard now, and 11 are looking ready for the cull.
Posted by: Bing | November 14, 2009 11:45 AM
...all the scotch whisky out of our cupboards and every bottle that is at 1/2 full or less is separated for the cull
...no offense, but that sounds like a pretty tame party
Posted by: ckc (not kc) | November 14, 2009 8:47 PM