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CCS is in the same league as fusion power

Category: Politics or technology?
Posted on: June 18, 2009 10:00 AM, by James Hrynyshyn

Should carbon capture and storage be part of a sustainable energy system? Maybe. Will it be in the foreseeable future? No. It's not a stretch to use the well-worn description applied to fusion power: it's 40 years away and always will be.

Just as using controlled thermonuclear fusion to generate electricity is based on a natural process at the heart of the sun, so carbon sequestration is basically an accelerated version of the natural tendency of the planetary ecosystem to bury organic matter. That process put several trillion tonnes of carbon deep under the surface of the earth over hundreds of millions of years. What we're now talking about is putting it back there many orders of magnitude faster. And that will take energy.

And at the end of the day, the fundamental question that will determine whether or not we can actually afford to capture and sequester the carbon that constitutes a significant portion of the emissions produced by burning coal, oil and gas is how much energy will it take. Or, to put it another way, how much efficiency will we lose by requiring power plants to capture and lock away the carbon?

Unless the efficiency is such that it's still cheaper to burn coal, oil or gas than clean, renewable alternatives, then it doesn't make sense.

Still, if it's just a matter of improving efficiency levels of a technology based on well understood principles, then why should we treat CCS any differently from photovoltaics, which still costs about five times as much as coal-fired electricity? Because photovoltaics are coming down in cost rapidly. CCS, which uses concepts at least as old as solar panels, shows no signs of following a similar path. Consider the example of the Mountaineer coal-fired power plant in New Haven, W.Va., which is being equipped with demonstration CCS technology:

Of the 8.5 million metric tons of carbon dioxide emitted annually by the Mountaineer plant, only 100,000 to 300,000 will be removed with the new technology. And American Electric and the maker of the technology, Alstom, are spending $100 million on the initiative -- a daunting expense for some producers. (New York Times, Feb. 15, 2009)

So, under an unrealistic best-case scenario, capturing 90% of the carbon dioxide (a typical maximum for any CO2-scrubbing mechanism, CCS will add about $2.5 billion to the cost of the power plant, more than tripling the cost. Even if this can be cut in half, we're still talking about making coal far more expensive than it is today. No viable cap-and-trade mechanism or carbon tax will make that kind of investment attractive, not in the next few decades, which brings us to the timing issue.

There's a widespread consensus that we need to starting bringing down global emissions within the next six years, and that by 2025, they should be down by at least 25-40%. By 2050 they should be down by 80 or 90 or even 100 percent (1990 or 2005 levels -- take your pick; it's really not that important). And given the glacial pace at which CCS technology is improving, by the time it's ready we'll either have already stopped burning fossil fuels or it will be too late to do anything about the consequences to the climate of doing so.

Note also that no one's talking about applying CCS to non-point sources of greenhouse gases, like automobile tailpipes. Only large-scale stationary power plants are viable candidates to incorporate the technology. And even then, most power plants won't be attractive thanks to their location, far enough from geologically appropriate places to put the carbon to make expensive pipelines necessary.

Furthermore, capturing carbon doesn't address the serious environmental damage done by decapitating mountains, a common practice in the coal-mining business.

Add it all up and the prospects for CCS just don't look good. Not when existing clean alternatives, such as solar (concentrated thermal and PV), wind, geothermal and hydroelectric, offer so much more for much smaller investments. While it's probably wise to continue spending a few million dollars per annum researching the possibilities of CCS, there are many other things that should be higher on our priority list.

In case you're still interested, here's a web journal devoted to the subject. Lots of positive spin there, but read between the lines and there's no reason to start celebrating.

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1

Here is a fusion project that is only two years away from a yes/no answer.

Bussard's IEC Fusion Technology (Polywell Fusion) Explained

Why hasn't Polywell Fusion been fully funded by the Obama administration?

Posted by: M. Simon | June 18, 2009 11:13 AM

2

Wind and solar today make up about .1% to .2% of the US electrical supply. There is no way to ramp up production enough to get to even 10% of the US electrical supply by 2025.

On top of that solar and wind will require fossil fuel backup for night and when the wind doesn't blow (about 5% of the days wind generates zero power). Try going a day or two without power.

And besides the intermittency solar and wind are very high cost compared to coal.

Any one who believes solar and wind can provide near term solutions hasn't run the numbers.

Posted by: M. Simon | June 18, 2009 11:21 AM

3

You're overlooking the single overwhelming advantage that carbon capture has over absolutely everything else: by promising carbon capture in the future, the coal industry can get permission to keep building more coal-fired power plants.

By the time the promises come due, we'll be just that more dependent on coal power. As a result the political cost of actually doing something about coal emissions will be higher, and the most politically viable solution will be to push back the deadlines, relax the requirements, fudge the books, or some combination. In the meantime, eat drink and be merry.

Who knows? The horse may learn to sing.

Posted by: D. C. Sessions | June 18, 2009 11:58 AM

4

If, when referring to fusion you mean the Tokomak which is being explored with the ITER project, you might be correct, however emerging technology based on expanded understanding from recent research in alternative fusion approaches, such as Polywell fusion as M.Simon references in post #1, deserves serious consideration. Why not check it out?
As well as offering clean carbon neutral energy, energy independence, and superabundance with low to negligible radioactivity, it opens the door to a truly operational capacity in the environment of space and the neighboring planets. Cheers.

Posted by: doug l | June 18, 2009 8:38 PM

5

Fusion, Fission, Wind, Solar, Geothermal = Cargoism

Posted by: Eric the Leaf | June 18, 2009 10:09 PM

6

The cargoism accusation is outrageous. The implication is that everything we've done, all engineering and science, is just delaying the inevitable. Maybe you think we just have to grow up and commit mass suicide. Yes, it's true that population growth is the hard nut of the problem, but there is a tremendous moral difference between collapse and soft landing. There is always a chance that we will make the kind of social advances that will allow us to control our population. Meanwhile, we need to take politically viable steps that address the problem. People are not going to live without energy. They just won't do it. And we don't need fusion. We already have a safe, reliable, clean and green source of nuclear energy that will last a couple of hundred years, time enough to find a way to give us more time, assuming we still needit.

Posted by: jj mollo | June 18, 2009 11:26 PM

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#2 Ahh M Simon you are incorrect. Wind alone is -right now- about 3% of U.S. electrical production. It certainly was 2.5% at the end of last year when the Dept of Energy released its annual figures. That is 10x more than your estimate. And over 50% of ALL new electric installation spending last year was for wind. If we just keep the current level of deployment wind will be over 10% of electricity produced in 10 years or so.

Posted by: Markk | June 19, 2009 12:29 AM

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I'm looking at the industry report and they're only claiming 1.25% of US production as of the end of 2008. Industry reports tend to be optimistic. They are also claiming a 50% growth rate, which would put them at 1.87% by year's end. It's wrong to think of wind as scalable though. As it grows wrt the total, it becomes harder and harder to manage due to variability. It also needs to be transported longer distances in order to be useful, and we don't have the grid infrastructure for that. This is the report I'm looking at, btw.

Posted by: jj mollo | June 19, 2009 12:52 AM

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jj mollo is correct. EIA figures (USA):

http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/electricity/epm/table1_1.html

In 2008 there were 52 TWh of wind power generated (scroll down and click on 1.1A), out of 4,110 TWh in all. So about 1.3%.

The other commenters are probably confusing "installed capacity" with "actual generation" - wind power is intermittent and only achieves a fraction of its capacity, which explains the discrepancy.

Not when existing clean alternatives, such as solar (concentrated thermal and PV), wind, geothermal and hydroelectric, offer so much more for much smaller investments.

You left out the biggest one.

Posted by: anon | June 20, 2009 2:18 AM

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Why control co2? O, I forgot, it's all those corrupt scientists on the government gravy train screaming about global warming. I have a question. What global warming?

Posted by: Torange | June 23, 2009 6:35 PM

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