I an in the home stretch for grading exams, so just a quick update for today:

The evidence of floods from the Eyjafjallajökull eruption, taken on May 1, 2010 by Dr. Joe Licciardi.

{Hat tip to all Eruptions readers who helped provide links for this post!}


  1. #1 Raving
    May 11, 2010

    Good morning.

  2. #2 Fireman
    May 11, 2010

    There is indeed steaming in the river, and it doesn’t appear to be due to hot meltwater from the glacier. It’s very likely just atmospheric conditions… or could it just possibly be heating from below? The EQs were trending out under the river yesterday…

  3. #3 Corporal_E
    May 11, 2010

    Good morning and bom dia! I am glad the weather is holding out. Great views again!

  4. #4 Thomas Wipf
    May 11, 2010

    On the mulakot webcam it seems that the vent is wider now or one of the two inactive vents became active again.

  5. #5 Cornelis (NL)
    May 11, 2010

    @2: The FLIR cam shows a hot river, maybe your theory is right?

  6. #6 Anna, Reykjavík
    May 11, 2010

    Amazing — the current “Wild West” flying style in Germany, with jet pilots flying by sight at altitudes of 1500m or lower.,1518,693764,00.html

  7. #7 Gina Ct
    May 11, 2010

    @fireman atmospheric conditions are likely but if it isn’t could get interesting a new fissure/vent would change the game

  8. #8 Jón Frímann
    May 11, 2010

    There appears to be that the noise that I am seeing on my geophone is human made. It can be told by the clock. Based on when it starts and stops.

    I don’t know what it is that is creating this noise. But I do know now that it is human made.

  9. #9 kaboom
    May 11, 2010

    Sorry for stating the obvious but since when is steam brown in colour, thats dust being driven by the wind.

  10. #10 Fireman
    May 11, 2010

    I don’t see any thermal anomaly in the river – otherwise I would have mentioned it!

  11. #11 Daniel
    May 11, 2010

    If you compare the FLIR images from yesterday and the ones today she is without a doubt emitting more heat. The heat plume is higher before it cools down.

    Would this point to a larger pressure coming from below? I dont know but it seems like if the plume reaches a bit higher than yesterday before succumbing to the wind.

  12. #12 Bas v D
    May 11, 2010

    @ Jón #8 Thanks for your answer, it looks that way.

  13. #13 Brian
    May 11, 2010

    On the hvolsvelli camera can anyone explain the low ground haze that surrounds the top of the volcano even on the upwind side of the crater? It seems to be slowly expanding to lower levels.

  14. #14 Renato I Silveira
    May 11, 2010

    #3 Bom dia, Corporal. Still have all the children around?
    #11 Yes, it seems to me the plume is going higher straight up.

  15. #15 Gina Ct
    May 11, 2010

    I first noticed it as 2 or 3 spot sources rising close to one of the streams and their does not appear to be any thermal anomalies but that is a not for sure thing with the scaling of the image rather than a absolute temp indication

  16. #16 Jon
    May 11, 2010

    Are these old contrails here:

    Kind of ironic if they are 🙂

  17. #17 Dennis
    May 11, 2010

    Okay, so we got a source -> human made,
    but how ? and where ? and why ? and what ?

    i have nothing found that some probes are getting taken (drilling) or some work has to be done like before the 1st melt where they opend some roads, heard of nothing simillar for the last two days and it started yesterday morning. Lets see if we get a afternoon break again.

  18. #18 Reynir, .is
    May 11, 2010

    #2: Nah. Too brownish. Has to be dried-up mud. We see a lot of that here on the European side of the ridge during the summer. Glacial rivers leave sediment as they slow down. When it dries, wind whirls it up and blows it away. In really bad cases, it can leave the sky uniformly brown with visibility down to “ARRGGH! Where’s a b4y radar when you need one?!?”

  19. #19 Renato I Silveira
    May 11, 2010

    Definitely plume looks much higher on Múlakot cam. Windchange or pressure that is risen?

  20. #20 Renato I Silveira
    May 11, 2010

    The “double plume effect” again shoing on Múlakot’s
    And this shows a “schok wave” effect on clouds.

  21. #21 Corporal_E
    May 11, 2010

    Oi Renato, tudo bem? Yes, my 11 year old had three friends over yesterday, and they all sat around my computer watching all of the cams. She just won 1st place for a weather event in Science Olympiad Competition on Saturday, and she is now mad because she can’t download the cams to her cell phone! How are you?

  22. #22 Reynir, .is
    May 11, 2010

    Been looking at the Road Works station map. They indicate rising W-ly winds of 10-15 knots and temps around 11°C. I wouldn’t be surprised if the wind rose to 15-20 kts as it’s funnelled into the valley that Markarfljót runs through.

  23. #23 Anna, Reykjavík
    May 11, 2010

    @Brian (#13)

    It’s ash, the heavy particles that fall to ground pretty quickly.

  24. #24 Renato I Silveira
    May 11, 2010

    #21 Tudo bem, Corporal. I can imagine how excited they get watching this unique show by the volcano. I’m just getting dressed to leave for work, but the volcano keeps me attached to the screen. I might be “fired” because of Eyjaf… looks like others here fear the same. But it’s no use. We just keep on looking…

  25. #25 Dagmar
    May 11, 2010

    Hi all! To me it looks like the FLIR cam shows much higher heat than yesterday, is this true and what can we conclude?

    I just saw Daniel pointed at it to. Tremor is going up too.

  26. #26 Brian
    May 11, 2010

    @23 Anna. That’s what I thought but it extends to the left upwind and down the slope toward the camera. Maybe it’s dust kicked up by lava bombs arriving around the vent: it’s been getting pretty violent up there the last hour or so.

  27. #27 Jon
    May 11, 2010

    There is a high level jet flying to the left of the plume here:

    You can see the contrail quite clearly!

  28. #28 Corporal_E
    May 11, 2010

    Looking at the timing and depth between the EQ’s on, it looks like the only recent movement has been pretty deep.

    @24 Estou muito bem, obrigado. Tenho que ligar para algums clientes hoje no Brasil. Eu falo muito melhor do que eu escrevo, lol. And please don’t get fired over the volcano..I think she has many more suprises in store for us!

  29. #29 Reynir, .is
    May 11, 2010

    #8, #17: According to the Road Works map for S-Iceland, there is work in progress near the village Hella. No idea what hours they keep or if it’s making enough ruckus to befuddle the geophone.

  30. #30 Dennis
    May 11, 2010

    Got a link for me, please ?
    a quick google search didnt get me right away what i was looking for.

  31. #31 Daniel
    May 11, 2010

    #20 Renato.

    The double vent seems to be the same vent just momentarily split by something. I might be wrong

    And the shockwaves on the clouds..I dont think so. It simply seems to be high altitude clouds. See them sometimes here in swe and we do not have any active volcanoes..:-) What causes this effedt on the clouds is unknown to me.

  32. #32 Jon
    May 11, 2010

    Here’s a pic of the jet contrail to the left of the plume … kind of ironic 🙂

  33. #33 Renato I Silveira
    May 11, 2010

    #31 @ Daniel: That sounds like a good explanation to me. In yesterday’s blog there was a discussion about this “second vent”,so I just wanted to show how it appeared again today. But you might be just right about it. As for the shock waves, hehe, just a teaser of my part before a long working day. I’ll be back tomorrow, Icelandic time. Thank you all.

  34. #34 motsfo
    May 11, 2010

    i have to sit down a minute.
    i just stumbled into a thread where Bárðarbunga was being discussed. i found it by following a thread from Google. i’ve been reading this wonderful site by Eric and i’d quite forgotten what madness lay outside.
    Let me catch me’breath.

  35. #35 kaboom
    May 11, 2010

    WHAO…Kettle’s boiled.. Huge burst of activity and height of plume just now.

  36. #36 George
    May 11, 2010

    The plume temperature seems much higher today than yesterday according to the FLIR cam. It looks as though higher temperatures are reaching higher in altitude into the plume, assuming camera calibration has not changed.

  37. #37 Mr. Moho
    May 11, 2010

    Has the temperature scale on the FLIR camera been tweaked or is the ash plume really hotter than usual, today?

  38. #38 Daniel
    May 11, 2010

    For many of us this is the first “live volcano watch”. And as alot of us are so called “amateur volcanophiles” I am starting to believe we tend to overreact on the small things. 🙂

    In the previous post Boris Behncke wrote that judging by a video posted by Anna (i think) it seems that EF will continue in this fashion for a while yet.

    I have seen some thing which has made my eyes widen more and my thoughts started spinning directly in regards to Katla, Hekla and even Grimsvötn system. These things (which made me jump) are obviously business as usual in regards to the volcanic eruption. I for one has learned thi biggest lesson so far..Dont jump to conclusions and cry wolf when she (EF) gets alittle hotter, ejects more or simply trembles abit.

    But hey, I am as I said an amateur without any education in volcanism/geology and these are just my 2 cents.

    PS: This blog has tought me alot though. DS. TY Erik, Boris and all who has patience enough to “teach” us. 🙂

  39. #39 Janet, Tx
    May 11, 2010

    I apologize if this is a dumb question. I’m just a volcano voyeur not a scientist. :o)

    Is there something changing in the eruption to cause the ash to be heavier? It just seems the “fallout” begins almost immediately. I don’t recall seeing that ash “curtain” so heavy before. Thanks!

  40. #40 Corporal_E
    May 11, 2010

    Ash plume is definitely gaining some altitude.

  41. #41 Daniel
    May 11, 2010

    #37, Mr. Moho.

    The temp scale does not seem to have been tweaked as the bottom of the valley still has the same colour as yesterday. The most probable reason would be that she just pushes a bit harder today.
    The EQ´s from yesterday at large depth may have meant that more magma came up and now she is ejecting with bigger force. Bigger volume of ejecta through the same vent…Kind of the “Squeeze a garden hose” effect.

  42. #42 Anna, Reykjavík
    May 11, 2010

    @Brian (26), the plume shoots up at least 1000m before it starts to bend to the wind. It’s entirely possible that the wind at the surface of the glacier is blowing in a different direction.

    Video, being two-dimensional, messes with your sense of depth and direction. Are you only looking at the Hvolsvöllur cam? Check the others for comparison:

  43. #43 Reynir, .is
    May 11, 2010

    Katla cam: Visibility greatly reduced. Colour looks like ash.

  44. #44 Fireman
    May 11, 2010

    Errrr I don’t know why no-one has mentioned it, but the currently active vent is NOT the one that has been active for the last day or two! It’s not even the one that produced my ‘second plume’. Activity has clearly moved far to the east.

    Compare Voda and Þórólfsfelli cams right now to my double plume of two days ago:

    (original ‘two vents’ shot is on the right, todays active vent is on the left)


  45. #45 George
    May 11, 2010

    It also appears that the ash might be darker in color today but that might be a trick of the light. Will have to wait until the sun strikes it from a different angle to tell for sure. But if the material is more basaltic today, that could account for the higher temperature as I believe more basaltic magma is generally hotter.

  46. #46 EKoh
    May 11, 2010

    Erik, going back to the discussion of magma compositions from yesterday: I’m sure there are analysis of the most recently erupted rhyolites, and one could plot mixing curves between those compositions and the basalts that initially erupted from Eyjafjallajökull this year. For the non-specialists, if the andesitic material being erupted now fell on the curves, that would support mixing. I can’t get sidetracked into that myself right now, but maybe some other petrologists out there could give it a shot.

    The folks actually doing the analyses of course will tackle this, but it may be a bit before they report any interpretations.

  47. #47 Dan, Florida
    May 11, 2010

    I see there has been some lightning detected today. Wonder what that means.

  48. #48 Alyson
    May 11, 2010

    It certainly looks bigger and hotter today and the ‘haze’ which rolls away down the slope, in both directions, seemed to start yesterday afternoon. Does anyone know what it might be. I wondered at a heavier gas mixed in with ash?

  49. #49 Kultsi, Askola, FI
    May 11, 2010

    #39 Janet, the only dumb question is get one that does not get asked. 🙂

    The grain sizes produced by the explosions are larger now; I was just about to comment about it, too.

  50. #50 Corporal_E
    May 11, 2010

    There is a nifty litter critter on the lens of the Hekla cam right now..

  51. #51 Corporal_E
    May 11, 2010

    Of course he flies away as soon as I hit submit lol

  52. #52 Daniel
    May 11, 2010

    Haha…On saturday on one of the more popular swedish channels they will broadcast “Dante´s Peak”.

    Opportunism anyone?

  53. #53 Fireman
    May 11, 2010

    I withdraw that second vent allegation; on closer inspection the difference in scales fooled me for a moment. Move along, nothing to see here!

  54. #54 Nick, Sweden
    May 11, 2010

    I’m pretty sure that the FLIR cam only shows relative temperature, which means that it could be the surroundings that are cooler today. That’s how thermal imaging usually works: It doesn’t show the absolute temperature of an object, it creates an image that describes differences in temperatures within the image.

  55. #55 David Calvo
    May 11, 2010

    I have a new link for all of you about ash trajectories. it shows collumnar concentrations, so i guess is even better than the VAAC predictions.

    David Calvo.

  56. #56 Mr. Moho
    May 11, 2010

    @54: I believe it can be also set up to show temperatures relative to a fixed threshold.

  57. #57 Corporal_E
    May 11, 2010

    @55 Awesome link! Thanks David! That loop does a great job of showing the ash trajectories. You can see why places like Morocco and Turkey have had flight cancellations.

  58. #58 Reynir, .is
    May 11, 2010

    Looks like there’s a rainy front about to hit Iceland’s west coast.

  59. #59 Daniel
    May 11, 2010

    @54: How come the surroundings are the same as yesterday then? Should be quite a big temperature difference on the non related areas if it would be a relative temp. That would mean that the temp in the valley below would plummet by many many degrees.

    I might be wrong in this and would love to get a deeper analysis of the cam. Just guessing here..:-S

  60. #60 Mr. Moho
    May 11, 2010

    @59: well, they’re not exactly the same. If you’ve seen recent timelapse videos of the FLIR cam, ground temperature drops a bit during night, then rises again during daytime. Now the weather has been clear for a few consecutive days and ground temperature is maybe a bit little higher than yesterday, not much noticeably more, though.

    I think the current temperature scale has been set up to show temperature values proportional to the absolute pixel temperature, (or better, relative to a fixed threshold) rather than the hottest visible pixel. Otherwise we would be seeing colors flashing often.

    But of course, I might be wrong as I’m not a FLIR cam expert.

  61. #61 Tintin
    May 11, 2010

    can’t wait until midnight so I can generate the new Timelapse movie of the FLIR Thermal Camera for 2010-05-11. It will be spectacular….

  62. #62 Nick, Sweden
    May 11, 2010

    @ 59: You’re right, and I’m a little less sure about how to interpret the image now, considering it’s the same colour in the valley as yesterday. It would be interesting if someone who knows more about how to interpret thermal images could comment. I only know that it depicts relative temperature, and that makes it hard to draw any conclusions.

  63. #63 Emanuel Landeholm
    May 11, 2010

    Certainly looks hotter today on the FLIR! Also, the base of the plume appears wider. Weather de luxe! Maybe I should go get some popcorn for tonight…

  64. #64 Alyson
    May 11, 2010

    @59 and @62. Could it be smoke rather than steam? The smoke appears to be rolling down-hill and I wonder if it is now moving along the valley floor.

  65. #65 Dan, Florida
    May 11, 2010

    Is that ash that has been on the ground that is blowing at the base on the Þórólfsfelli cam?

  66. #66 Shelly
    May 11, 2010

    Have to agree with you Dan… was watching little sut devils down blowing around earlier… 🙂

  67. #67 Tintin
    May 11, 2010

    Here you have some link about FLIR Cameras

    WebViewer try analyzing and reporting tool ONLINE…

    Seek the Heat

  68. #68 Reynir, .is
    May 11, 2010

    #63: Not too much popcorn. The forecast isn’t that promising.

  69. #69 Tintin
    May 11, 2010

    short link to FLIR side by side CAM :

  70. #70 Tintin
    May 11, 2010

    Hi all, I just made a Chat room for all here so that there will be no need to update page all the time.

  71. #71 Andrew
    May 11, 2010

    @69…. nice, but chatrooms are blocked by my employer’s firewall 🙁

  72. #72 birdseyeUSA
    May 11, 2010

    …reading ‘Subglacial and Intraglacial volcanic formations in Iceland,” watching Eyja, listening to
    : )

  73. #73 Bas v D
    May 11, 2010

    Looking at the radar it will be curtains in 30 min.
    It was nice, but we will be back to graphics for a while….

  74. #74 Dagmar
    May 11, 2010
  75. #75 Kultsi, Askola, FI
    May 11, 2010

    The explosions seem to go every which way, and it looks some lava got expelled down the slope – at least there is a less-dense, dark haze rising.

  76. #76 shellya
    May 11, 2010

    Dumb question:
    Wondering if the ash is affecting weather? Where does the ash go? Does some stay in the atmosphere and effect the tempature on the groud?
    Freezing cold in NYC today!

  77. #77 Jon
    May 11, 2010

    Hi all … what is the latest on SO2 emissions?

  78. #78 birdseyeUSA
    May 11, 2010

    well, THAT last blast put the steam up downslope…

  79. #79 birdseyeUSA
    May 11, 2010

    If someone can see Thoro cam and there’s anything going on, please post. I had the beginning of steam but lost the cam and can only see HVOL and FLIR now.

    @Dagmar 73 ..and if you pull it out to big screen, you can just catch a glimpse of the bigger steam outlet lower down on the glacier for a minute.

  80. #80 Mr. Moho
    May 11, 2010

    From Hvolsvöllur camera, the ash plume has just grown in size and reached the top of the screen.

  81. #81 sundayj
    May 11, 2010

    Seems we’ve got lava at the front of the glacier again.

    Back to glacier death watch. 🙂

  82. #82 birdseyeUSA
    May 11, 2010

    Re: chat – for those who come later and miss the post, and those who don’t/can’t chat, does the conversation automatically come back here?

  83. #83 Ross
    May 11, 2010

    Ash seems to be reach greater heights and much denser then the last few days and it looks like more lava is interacting with the glacier. I wouldn’t want to be downwind of this.

  84. #84 Thomas Nygreen
    May 11, 2010

    @73: An extended version (03:27) of the same footage can be seen at

    There are two quite spectacular ones at 2:40 and 2:50 (close-up).

  85. #85 Austin
    May 11, 2010

    Unless Dr. K gets upset with the volume of comments, I’d actually recommend keeping the conversation here: not only is it more universal for people, but it keeps all the questions (even the “dumb ones” :P) logged for people to come back and review.

    The chat can, of course, be useful for people on a more immediate basis, but unless it’s archived somewhere you lose all that information/resource data. Here, it’s shared and available to all us folk who don’t know much but are having fun following along where we can.

  86. #86 Gordon
    May 11, 2010

    #78 I hava Thoro cam having just logged in for a while, and there’s a lot of action… Dust in the river valley, plenty coming from main eruption column which is dropping a lot of ash, and what I think is low cloud intermingling with the steam column. Difficulty I have is that low cloud appears to be travelling very slowly in different direction from the eruption column and now obscuring steam column

  87. #87 Ruby
    May 11, 2010

    @83 Thomas. Just watched the footage that was great thank you

  88. #88 Dan, Florida
    May 11, 2010

    @78 birdseye Couple of captures here.

  89. #89 Jón Frímann
    May 11, 2010

    It has been confirmed by the news that there is now more ash production going on from Eyjafjallajökli. This also means higher ash plume. But there is currently more explosive phase from 12:00 UTC.

  90. #90 Kultsi, Askola, FI
    May 11, 2010

    @83 “…lava gets thrown high in the air, but that does not mean there is increased activity in the volcano.” Now, that is responsible journalism.

  91. #91 sunday
    May 11, 2010

    #85: The low cloud is steam evaporated from the glacier by hot, fresh lava.

  92. #92 birdseyeUSA
    May 11, 2010

    @83Thomas Nygreen Takk så mye, and the article is interesting too – ‘expect to see more spectacular sights’ but not because the volcano is more active, just that the way the caldera is building, we are able to see the activity better…

  93. #93 parclair NoCal USA
    May 11, 2010

    @birdseye: Don’t give up on the cams. I close the window which stops allowing the thorolfs and hvolsvelli cams, open a new one. Repeat as each cam gets jammed.

    Really nothing’s changed much since 11am (thread time). In fact, it’s clouding up. Pretty much of the right side of the hvols cam is covered with plume. But, It’s prolly the wind conditions that are moving the plume in such a way that it looks big. The dust in the valley continues.

    When I get totally jammed, I use the picasa site to get updates (as well a mulkot)

  94. #94 Corporal_E
    May 11, 2010

    Where did the other hot spots on the FLIR go? Did they close up just as this larger ash plume rises?

  95. #95 Karl UK
    May 11, 2010

    Relaxed ash restrictions over the UK for aircraft.

  96. #96 parclair NoCal USA
    May 11, 2010

    @ 93 Prolly cloud cover is dense and hiding the hot spots.

  97. #97 Corporal_E
    May 11, 2010

    @95 You are right. I did not think that little cloud could hide the heat sources so well.

  98. #98 birdseyeUSA
    May 11, 2010

    @92parclair oh, my closings and openings are busy, busy… usually one gets going and the other one jams Voda in any case, realtime. : ) Glad picasa is updating during the day today, it hasn’t been the past couple of days, at least in the mornings.
    @Corporal_E , Clouds… Boo….

  99. #99 robert somerville
    May 11, 2010

    Jon Frimann;

    is that wind noise on you helicorders , or is that volcanic tremor ??

    robert somerville

  100. #100 Mattias Larsson
    May 11, 2010

    Jòn has the wind incresed recently, and is the recent 8 m/s enough to create some wind interference on your seismograph? I am thinking about the increase in signals during the last two hours. I have not seen the same increse in the tremor plots from Eyjafjallajökull area. If the increase in signal comes from the eruption, why does it not show up on the tremor plots?

  101. #101 Jón Frímann
    May 11, 2010

    @robert somerville, it a construction work of some type nearby. But there is wind noise there too. But it appears differently then harmonic tremors or wind noise.

    Lightning was reported from the ash plume today.

  102. #102 Mattias Larsson
    May 11, 2010

    Hihi. We were thinking the same thing robert 🙂

  103. #103 Mattias Larsson
    May 11, 2010

    Thanks Jòn.

  104. #104 Carla - Seattle
    May 11, 2010

    #73 and #83: Thanks for those incredible video links. It’s great to be able to see what the explosive events look like from the top. Amazing and humbling.

  105. #105 Daniel
    May 11, 2010

    Jón wrote that in the icelandic news today it was stated that ash production and explosivity had increased since 12.00. That would explain the increase in heat on FLIR cam as well as the height of the “hot plume” since I guess that newly ejected ash is quite hot.

    Business as usual then..:-)

  106. #106 Daniel
    May 11, 2010

    I would like to thank “Merlin, UK” from the previous thread who posted an excellent guide to the more “difficult to understand” phrases withing the volcanophile community. Worth reposting.

    Cudos to Merlin, UK!

  107. #107 birdseyeUSA
    May 11, 2010

    @Dan 87 thanks for that post, nice of you – cams are coming back now – think it must have something to do with how many neighbors on my pathetic cable hookup are online too- and always bad once their kids get home from school lol

  108. #108 Daniel
    May 11, 2010

    Can anyone say what the strange “curtain” to the left of the base of the plume is on ?

  109. #109 Jón Frímann
    May 11, 2010

    Here is a video of the eruption. I don’t know if it has appeared here before. It has been recently been taken, but I don’t know when.

  110. #110 Brian (on Skye)
    May 11, 2010

    At night when I go to bed I dream that I look out the window and see lava rolling down the slopes of the Cuillins.

    Have I been watching this volcano for too long?

  111. #111 birdseyeUSA
    May 11, 2010

    @Brian on Skye (lucky dog, was there in the ’60’s) – You’re just seeing back in time, that’s all…

  112. #112 Ruby
    May 11, 2010

    Icelandic Met office have posted an update on activity very short I must say. Here it is:

    Little changes are reported since yesterday. Shortly, a status report issued collectively by the Icelandic Meteorological Office and the Institute of Earth Sciences will be accessible on our web.

  113. #113 parclair NoCal USA
    May 11, 2010

    @birdseye How dare those children take up your broadband! 😉

  114. #114 Merlin, UK
    May 11, 2010

    @Daniel 105 – thank you for nice remarks but it wasn’t me who posted that excellent link – so please step forward whoever it was to take your bow!

  115. #115 Ruby
    May 11, 2010

    On the Mila website I can only get the Flir cam to work and on the Flir website I can only get the ordinary cam to work, so I have to keep two tabs open so I can watch both does anyone else have to do this or just me?

  116. #116 birdseyeUSA
    May 11, 2010

    @JónF108,thanks. (also longer version @73) Compare with this for difference…
    @parcair, beats dial up but just barely!

  117. #117 Daniel
    May 11, 2010

    Aah who ordered the clouds with a side of blocked FLIR?

  118. #118 Peter Tibben
    May 11, 2010

    National Geographic HD already aired a documentary on the Eyjafjallajökull eruption on may 4, 5 and 6. Fantastic quality footage in 1280×720 resolution. For those who missed it. The documentary can be found in newsgroup alt.binaries.multimedia Link of NZB for this video can be found here:

  119. #119 birdseyeUSA
    May 11, 2010

    Jón’s post @88 also mentions that there were 16 earthquakes under the volcano in the(then) past hour..??? Removed form the map now? Never made the map?

  120. #120 Paolo
    May 11, 2010

    Any glaciologist here who can explain what will happen to the glacier next? Summer is coming and the glacier has turned dark, but ash protects from solar irradiation as well. Or maybe ash will be washed off by the rain anyway? More melting, less melting, same melting?

  121. #121 Nick, Sweden
    May 11, 2010

    Seems like the nice view will be gone for a while. It’s going to snow for at least 12 hours from now, according to forecast from Norwegian weather site

  122. #122 thor
    May 11, 2010

    Hi guys, just saw a video clip on of the eruption.

    so anyone wondering where the lava goes,it seems like it runs back to the big main crater.


    when the sun starts heating up the ash covered ice, it wil start melting, as the ash is black and it will get warmed up. se we can see some more melting trough summer.
    if it starts Raining up there, we can probably get some smaller lahars /jökullaups as the depsoits will be washed away with melting water.

  123. #123 Daniel
    May 11, 2010

    Can someone take a look at (3rd picture from above, refreshes every 2-3 sec just hit refresh) and tell me what it is I am seeing? The cam is still relatively clear and the plume seems to be somewhat chaotic.

  124. #124 Daniel
    May 11, 2010

    Clarification to #122. By chaotic I mean that it seems to have widened. Not the vent or the base but the spread of the plume. Directly on the left side of the base it seems a bit erratic as well.

  125. #125 Daniel
    May 11, 2010

    Ah of course..A big shipment of clouds just arrived as I wrote my previous posts. Nevermind then. 🙂

  126. #126 StarBP
    May 11, 2010

    @Jón: Didn’t you say that something would start happening when north-south inflation got to -10? From most stations it has reached that point as of yesterday.

  127. #127 Philipp
    May 11, 2010

    time-lapse from the 9th of may:

  128. #128 birdseyeUSA
    May 11, 2010

    @117 Peter Tibben – to adopt a phrase from Reynir – *Grmbl* – off to Google – ‘what is NZB’, followed by ‘What is a newsreader’ ; ) Getting quite the education, here….

  129. #129 Daniel
    May 11, 2010

    @StarBP, #125: Since volcanoes are very different by nature and this one in the extreme all anyone can do is guess. Jón has had very accurate predictions so far but as EF starts acting more and more erratic all guesses will be just that, a qualified guess. Maybe something will happen at a later point in time or not. I dont think even the most experienced volcanologist would be able to predict this one if I understand all articles and comments correct.

  130. #130 birdseyeUSA
    May 11, 2010

    Did anyone else see that lightning (or something) on Thoro cam??

  131. #131 Corporal_E
    May 11, 2010

    At least we can still see the flow of meltwater on the Thoro cam…and as I type type this…the clouds start getting lower lol

  132. #132 snotra viking, sweden
    May 11, 2010

    Birdseye, educate me please, what is NZB, and how do I use it?

  133. #133 JB US
    May 11, 2010
    Jon’s Helicorders

    I tried to google Airplane Noise and Helicorder Data – North America is sending some flights over Greenland or North Iceland to avoid the Ash Clud. Can your helicorder pick up change in air plane flight paths?

  134. #134 Daniel
    May 11, 2010
  135. #135 Jón Frímann
    May 11, 2010

    @StarBP, It was my believe that new magma would start to push up when the north-south would reach 10mm to the south level. But it happened earlier and a lot faster then I did expect. What happens next is a good question. Besides opening up a new vents or a fissure I have no model for what might happen in terms of explosiveness of the eruption. We are just going to wait and see on that.

    I hope that the cloud clear in few hours time.

  136. #136 Peter Tibben
    May 11, 2010

    @birdseyeUSA That takes too much to explain in a few words. For more information/tutorial see:
    In English and Dutch

  137. #137 Jón Frímann
    May 11, 2010

    @JB US, My geophone is not able to detect the noise from air plains that flight above it. That signal is too far away, and it is too weak to be picked up.

  138. #138 birdseyeUSA
    May 11, 2010

    @snotraviking – I haven’t attacked it it yet – but see @ 133 & 135! My triumph for the day was getting so I can use .wmv – can only handle one major technological advance at a time! ; )
    @135 Peter Tibben, thank you, I took a look, it may be more than I will ever use!

  139. #139 Fireman
    May 11, 2010

    Did anyone ask for bombs? I got bombs. My friend Gummi is even crazier than I thought…

    3rd photo down…!

  140. #140 Reynir, .is
    May 11, 2010

    #132: The best instrument to pick up the noise from aircraft at altitude is a high-quality microphone, likely a condenser type with a cardiodid pattern.

  141. #141 Frito Lay
    May 11, 2010

    Did Mila remove the Vala cam completely? There’s no longer a link to it on their English site. (Sorry if this was mentioned earlier; I haven’t had time to read earlier posts)

  142. #142 Reynir, .is
    May 11, 2010

    #140: It’s gone from their Icelandic side as well.

  143. #143 Janet, TX
    May 11, 2010

    @138 Fireman ~ Great pics! I love the one where the rock melted down into the glacier.

  144. #144 Anna, Reykjavík
    May 11, 2010

    @138 Fireman, great picture of the bombs —

    I was just watching the news on RÚV and there was a very brief clip where at least 20 Nordic volcanologists were lined along this ridge by the crater, watching the action and these enormous bombs falling left right and centre.

    Like flies drawn to an open flame …

  145. #145 folke kelm
    May 11, 2010

    To answer the question about the ash and the weather #75.
    Similar questions can be read in nearly every thread on Eruptions about Eyja. I will try to give an answer, but i think it would be better to write a blog post about the climatic effects of a volcano, so that all are able to read it and learn a little about it.

    It is not the ash that has climatic impacts. Ash is absorbing light in the visible range of the light and is warming up due to this. ON the other side is ash simply not long enough present in the atmosphere. it will fall down in relative short time.
    SO2 is the main gas which leads to cooling.
    It reacts with oxygen to SO3. This will take up water and form very fine droplets of sulfuric acid. These do not absorb much light, but reflect and are the cause of a slight cooling after major volcanic eruptions (like Pinatubo). In order to have a measurable effect the SO2 must be injected into the stratosphere, otherwise it will not persist in the atmosphere long enough to give any effect. It simply works (like the ash) as cloud condensation nuclei and it will rain down in rather short time. In the stratosphere it may have an effect for one to three years.
    Eyjafjallajökull has not enough power to produce a plume with sufficient height (with some small exceptions) to reach the stratosphere. I do not think, that it will have any effect to the climate, may be some local rainfalls, but not more. Hope this helps a little.

    PS: This is my first post here, so …..hello everybody from Sweden

  146. #146 Dennis
    May 11, 2010

    Okay the day is over and we got again 10 hours of noise nearly same amount like yesterday.

    today we had some quite strange hours between 16:15-18:19,
    simmillar to these hours were noise at 14:10, 15:20, 15:30.

    We had this at 9:05, 12:50, 13:37(couldnt resist) and 15:40 yesterday, also we had the break between 18:30 till 19:50.

    But i can nearly interpreted everything in this picture. Its fact that it started yesterday and its really strange.

    Some nice ideas till now for the source of the spooky thing, but i’m out of one.
    It looks really human, cant thing for any procress inside our Big Mama that could course something like that, when it would proceed in the night time but it isnt.

  147. #147 Holy Grail
    May 11, 2010

    After the start of that noise was the great swarm of eq’s.

  148. #148 Janet, Tx
    May 11, 2010

    @144 folke ~ Hi! Would the duration of the eruption have a factor? Even if it didn’t make it to the stratosphere but continued an eruption at the current rate for say a year or more. What kind of weather change could that cause if any?

  149. #149 Chris, Reykjavik
    May 11, 2010

    @Frito Lay, #140: No wonder. The camera is positioned on Valanúk, which is a mountain behind Thórsmörk and now inside the closed area. So there is no chance for maintanence like loading or exchanging batteries.

  150. #150 Chris, Reykjavik
    May 11, 2010

    @Peter Tibben, #140: Thats how times change. Do you know a free newsserver which has this group as well? I am not going to pay for another newsserver, which I don’t need. Or a torrent…

  151. #151 Nancy, Netherlands
    May 11, 2010

    “And now, in his rear-view mirror,”

  152. #152 thor
    May 11, 2010

    janet, it wont have any climate effect, the eruption is not big enough, But on the otherhand, the longtime effects if it last very long is that it will make some acid rainfal, and the ash produced will cause some seroiusly local effects on Iceland in general, and the economic will be hit hard specially in the Airline industry and to those living on Iceland. remember the ash falling down on iceland will only become deeper and deeper on the ground,and can in very serious eruptions burie a city and houses.. like fex pompei was.
    But for this to happen Eyjafjöll needs to continue for a loong loong time or become pyroclastic.. only time will tell how this will evolve further..
    whats likely now is probably that she will just continue as she has done the last month,or even open up more vents.. wonder what will happen when the main crater is freed from the ice??

  153. #153 Vince
    May 11, 2010

    For those interested in learning more about volcanoes and climate, I recommend this paper:

    Alan Robock
    Department of Environmental Sciences
    Rutgers University
    New Brunswick, New Jersey

  154. #154 Vince
    May 11, 2010

    Usually only large eruptions from tropical vulcanoes have significant impact on climate. But there are exceptions in the past, and one remarkable was in Iceland, the 1783-1784 Laki eruption:

    Another know exception (although less dramatic) to the “tropical rule” was the eruption of Novarupta in Alaska in 1912 that weakened India’s summer monsoon:

  155. #155 Jón Frímann
    May 11, 2010

    @Dennis, I am now fairly sure that this is human made noise from some type of construction. As it only happens during the working hours of the day.

  156. #156 Vince
    May 11, 2010

    Usually only large eruptions from tropical vulcanoes have significant impact on climate. But there are exceptions in the past, and one remarkable was in Iceland, the 1783-1784 Laki eruption:

  157. #157 Vince
    May 11, 2010

    Another exception (although less dramatic than Laki) to the “tropical rule” was the eruption of Novarupta in Alaska in 1912 that weakened India’s summer monsoon:

  158. #158 marko
    May 11, 2010

    @144: If there are no major new developments at Eyjafjöll, I would tend to think that it is mainly a nuisance at worst (or awesome spectacle at best). Would even Katla going off be much worse – typical Katla eruptions are 0.1-1 km^3 of tephra? The Katla eruptions that have followed EF tend to be among the smaller ones.

    A pattern in the EF-Katla scene seems to be that about 10-15 years after EF, Katla has gone off really big time, at least twice. The 920 EF eruption was followed by VEI 4 at Katla but 934 Katla went off the Eldgja way (18 km^3 lava, 5 km^3 tephra). 1612 there was VEI 4 at Katla (0.2 km^3 tephra) but in 1625 an order of magnitude bigger event. On the other hand, the 1812 EF eruption was followed by only a VEI 3 event at Katla.

    Eldgja is said to have released some 200+ million tonnes of SO2, about twice the Laki emissions at 1783. If something of similar scale was to happen again what would the impact be in the modern day Europe?
    “Laki and Eldgjá—two good reasons to live in Hawai`i”

  159. #159 Kris B
    May 11, 2010

    Guess anyone?

    What country today is the cleanest country in the world?

  160. #160 Diane N CA
    May 11, 2010

    Marko, don’t kid yourself too much about living in Hawaii, lol. Depends on what island you are on. If you are on the Big Island, Mauna Loa can be a mean character.

    I loved the video from #83. Thanks Thomas. It’s really cool.

    I have been gone all day and when I get back, nothing! Rats! Well, I guess I can be happy I got to watch it for a couple of nights at least.

    Did anything major happen today? From what I have read so far, it has increased and then lessened a bit.

    @Anna and Jon, please keep us posted as to what you are seeing there and experiencing. I value your input. And that goes for the other Icelanders that post here.

    Clouds clouds go away
    So we can see the mountain
    Blowing lava high

  161. #161 Dagur Bragason
    May 11, 2010

    The biggest volcano in Iceland has not being named here.
    The name is Bárðarbunga and has had a lot of EQ recently.
    8500 years ago it produced 21-30 KM3 of lava 950 KM2.
    Info here in Icelandic:
    In English:
    Dagur Bragason Iceland

  162. #162 birdseyeUSA
    May 11, 2010

    Quiet night (or at least a sightless one) – a good time to catch up on things not done and extra sleep – might need it later!

  163. #163 Frito Lay
    May 11, 2010

    @Chris #148: Thanks for the info. I hadn’t heard that the area around the Valanúk Mila cam was completely sealed off to everyone.

  164. #164 Robert Bordonaro, Arlington, TX, USA
    May 11, 2010

    Well, at least we has 2 wonderful days and nights of literally uninterrupted “E” viewing, including a wonderful lava/magma explosions, and a steady ash/steam plumes.

    Now, all we can see are the raindrops on the HVO camera, hopefully skies will clear sometime tomorrow :o).

  165. #165 Hans
    May 11, 2010

    Pretty quiet day on the EQ front but it looks like Jon’s geo-phone is showing a slow increase in harmonic tremors. Also, if I am not mistaken, the two latest EQ’s are beneath the cryptodome. This could signal something interesting, or perhaps ominous, or maybe the start of just another series of quakes beneath the postulated dome.

    Time will tell.

  166. #166 Dennis
    May 11, 2010

    @ jon

    so who is it ? what are they doing ?

    where is it located ?

    i just wonder because i think nothing like that had happend since the eruption started and i have 1st found your Helicorder.
    Now its the 2nd day with it, i cant think of a company that is sending workers out to this point.
    okay @146 fair fact but i hope not.
    Couldnt find the “route work for s-iceland”-link yet (@ 29)

  167. #167 Fireman
    May 11, 2010

    Since everyone seems to be having a quiet night (with the possible exception of the inhabitants of Vik, you can enjoy this:

  168. #168 Frito Lay
    May 11, 2010

    @Fireman #164 Great video!

    And for those who have kids that don’t like scary music, here’s a project the whole family can enjoy – build your own Eyfalkjollkajofullohwhatshername volcano!

  169. #169 Holger, N California
    May 11, 2010

    Slowly but slowly the weather seems to be improving. Every once in a while you can get a glimpse of the eruption (partial views only) on the Eyjafjallajökull from Þórólfsfell webcam or at least on the FLIR, but it’s changing rapidly….

  170. #170 Jón Frímann
    May 11, 2010

    @Dennis, They are building summer houses there. But I don’t think that is creating this human made noise on my geophone.

  171. #171 Dennis
    May 11, 2010

    Then could you please give me your clue to this “harmonic termor”?
    Is there more data ?

  172. #172 birdseyeUSA
    May 11, 2010

    @Fireman164 – wow – quite the nightcap! Thanks.

  173. #173 Holger, N California
    May 11, 2010

    Hmmm, it may just be the fog or my straining eyes, but it just appeared as if there was a lot of steam rising from Gígjökull.

    Did she use the cover of darkness and fog to resume the emission of a lava flow?

  174. #174 birdseyeUSA
    May 11, 2010

    Ummm -Ermmm- caught a glimpse just now on Thoro cam/Flir and the cloud on the right was moving but the brighter cloud on the left wasn’t – I don’t think – looks like big steam down low….in the arch area…

  175. #176 Dan, Florida
    May 11, 2010

    Looks like there has been some lightning too.

  176. #177 birdseyeUSA
    May 11, 2010

    Well, got fooled on that one – but at least I had company! over & out!

  177. #178 sunday
    May 11, 2010

    #170 There was an episode of heavy fog not long ago when the last effusive stage. Once the fog raised, a pretty chunk of Gígjökull was gone.

    Perhaps the melting of ice by lava produces fog due to the boiling of the melting water.

  178. #179 Holger, N California
    May 11, 2010

    @Dan #173

    Yes, I just saw a clear lightning strike on the Þórólfsfell webcam. Let’s hope the opening in the cloud covers stays that way for a little bit – I need my volcano viewing fix for the evening…

  179. #180 Helen Leggatt
    May 11, 2010

    Ohhh, has my beloved arch been compromised ?? It certainly does look very ominous on the glacier – very steamy/active.

  180. #181 Kathryn, Australia
    May 11, 2010

    When there’s a break in the cloud, it appears that the dark plume extends down the lava trench. It will be interesting to watch as it reveals itself – something has happened…

  181. #182 Helen Leggatt
    May 11, 2010

    Is it just me, or is the dark ash plume far more to the left of the image on Thoro now???

  182. #183 Holger, N California
    May 11, 2010

    Well, the humidity etc. in the eruptive column must be suitable for lightning today. I’ve seen a number of strikes already.

    And I still think there’s steam rising from Gígjökull…

  183. #184 Dan, Florida
    May 11, 2010

    @176 Holger Just after you wrote that I went back and just missed capturing a lightning shot. 🙁

  184. #185 Helen Leggatt
    May 11, 2010

    Holger/Kathryn, – I think something huge has happened on the glacier.. looks like a massive plume rising from it.. suspense is killing me!

  185. #186 birdseyeUSA
    May 11, 2010

    Couldn’t stand it, still here – it’s definitely steam on the upper side of the glacier on the left, I think – right-hand edge is too truncated to be a cloud or fog…??? and I think I occasionally see ‘breathing ‘ where the cleft ought to be….do I??

  186. #187 Passerby
    May 11, 2010

    >Eldgja is said to have released some 200+ million tonnes of SO2, about twice the Laki emissions at 1783. If something of similar scale was to happen again what would the impact be in the modern day Europe?

    Catastrophic for the entire northern hemisphere.

    From the National Acadamy of Science:

    “Less confidence can be placed in large-scale surface temperature reconstructions for the period from A.D. 900 to 1600. Presently available proxy evidence indicates that temperatures at many, but not all, individual locations were higher during the past 25 years than during any period of comparable length since A.D. 900”.

    The Medieval Warm Period started approximately 850AD, but the period centroid is at 1000AD.

    Glacier recession. Each of the Katla-Eyjaf pairwise eruptions appears to occur during these warm periods.

    Finally read news reports indicating that the IES geologists have admitted we are in a period of ‘unusual crustal activity’ (typical Icelandic understatement).

    This is why I keep pointing towards swarm activity at ‘pressure responsive centers’, located at Tjornes and SISZ Transform faults and Reykjanes Ridge. Probably Bardabunga / Askja centers, too.

    Geothermal Shake, Rattle and Roll!

    Speaking of which, when you see the meltwater river ‘steaming’ as was mentioned this morning, it may be either geothermal activity or it may be lava (which occurred during the Fimm vent eruptions).

    Finally, the vertical tremor plots are picking up a little ‘steam’, too.

  187. #188 Holger, N California
    May 11, 2010

    Perhaps the direction of the wind shifted and we got deposition of ash on the glacier and this side of the mountain? That would certainly accelerate the melting of the ice…

  188. #189 Kathryn, Australia
    May 11, 2010

    Yes, Helen. Huge suspense. I’ve missed the show the last two northern nights due to work here in Aus – ’bout time I got in on the action 😉

  189. #190 Helen Leggatt
    May 11, 2010

    Kathryn – NZ here – there’s an advantage to being down under when a northern hemi volcano goes off – night shows during the day, for one :))

  190. #191 Holger, N California
    May 11, 2010

    The mulakot webcam is still too dark to say for sure, but from what I could see the ash cloud may indeed have shifted towards the Gígjökull / Þórólfsfell direction.

    Soon we should be able to see what happened to the glacier, arch, and valley during the foggy weather.

  191. #192 Crystal Clear
    May 11, 2010

    The ‘noise’ you are picking up is from HARRP.

    Check out youtube info one spectral readings for the Haiti earthquake and others.

    I will try to find these vids again and post a link.

    I also watch the weather patterns posted on ‘weather underground’ channel for my area. After entering your zip code, page down to the bottom and Check out consecutive days before and after major earth events, weather or ground, and you will find strange phenomena recorded for wind direction, barometer and dew point.

    Often the only stations reading on those days are the ones at airports that must report correctly for flights to take off and land.

    Watch this video, a series of 5, about the Hopi prophecy…in Video 4, I think, or 5, Mt St Helens is spoken of as is the whole of the cascade range…the prophecy states that they will begin to speak once certain events come to pass.

    You volcanophiles may have alot to look at in the ‘not to far’ future.

    It is my hope that those of you with a mind to scoff, will hold your tongues.

    Good luck

  192. #193 Crystal Clear
    May 11, 2010
  193. #194 Helen Leggatt
    May 11, 2010

    Well, it looks like my arch lives to spew melt water for another day 🙂

  194. #195 Holger, N California
    May 11, 2010

    @Helen #182 & @Kathryn #178

    It’s really difficult to see, but something has happened to the upper part of the glacier for sure. Not so sure about the lower end, the ice patch in front of the glacier ‘mouth’ still seems to be there.

    With the steam and clouds rolling by it’s really a big tease, isn’t it?

  195. #196 MadScientist
    May 11, 2010

    @Helen #187: Not quite right about the night./day relationship between the N and S hemisphere. There are still quite a few people in the north who can still watch the volcano at night while it is day in their location.

  196. #197 Helen Leggatt
    May 11, 2010

    MadScientist – it’s ok, I wasn’t claiming exclusivity! Just commenting on our location is all.

  197. #198 Holger, N California
    May 11, 2010

    I think something isn’t quite right on the ‘glacier highland’ left of Gígjökull (as seen from the Þórólfsfell webcam). A constant stream of heavy steam is rising from there.

    Either we have a new lava flow going into that direction (possible), or we had quite a bit of ash being deposited in that area during the night (most likely explanation), or we had another rift opening up somewhere in that vicinity (least likely, but most exciting possibility).

    It is indeed a thrilling view and great suspense.

    (I’ll check back in in a couple of hours – I have a class to teach at the gym.)

  198. #199 Helen Leggatt
    May 11, 2010

    See you later, Holger. Hopefully you’ll have a better view on your return. It really is perplexing how the main dark vent appears to be in a different place (left of original) – new opening?

  199. #200 birdseyeUSA
    May 11, 2010

    The wind has changed, according to weather map, and maybe it’s pushing the eruption more directly to the left, which would make it look like it moved, since it’s been going more away from us – but that doesn’t help with the apparent steam up on the left side ‘highlands’ as Holger calls it – there was one day a while back when there was a little steam coming from that area, as I recall. Any other ideas?

  200. #201 Helen Leggatt
    May 11, 2010

    @197 Birdseye – I can still see a wee mushroomy-type plume coming from where the main ash plume use to come out.. but that solid dark mass now on the left of the top of the glacier is bugging me, I thought perhaps wind direction might make the plume look like it is coming from there but it just seems too dense and rising upwards to be being blown there. Just throwing ideas around like Lady Eyja throws boulders 🙂

  201. #202 birdseyeUSA
    May 11, 2010

    @198 Helen Leggatt (North or South Island ? I went to school in Dunedin for a year..)Other times, the plume has gathered up whatever cloud might be around and made it part of the plume – also heavy ash could come around like that on a wind change maybe? Very teasing picture, for sure…she’s playing with us.

  202. #203 Frito Lay
    May 11, 2010

    I just observed lightning at the “new” plume (now farther to the left, as others have also noted). Wow. Something has definitely changed lately.

  203. #204 Helen Leggatt
    May 11, 2010

    @199 birdseye – South (the best!) – living in inland Canterbury in the foothills of the Alps. Dunedin – gorgeous down there (I came to NZ from its counterpart – Edinburgh) – Otago Uni?

  204. #205 Dylan Ray
    May 12, 2010

    Hi Helen. North Island better 😉 We’ve got the volcanoes here. (Just so long as Taupo don’t go pop anytime soon)

  205. #206 birdseyeUSA
    May 12, 2010

    @210 Helen Leggatt – Columba College – best friend was from Roxburgh, now living up on North Island – our home was in ChCh.

  206. #207 MadScientist
    May 12, 2010

    @Helen: Hehehe; the first time I was in Dunedin (NZ, not Scotland) I went with a pair of German students; as we drove into the city I asked “so when are we getting there?” and I was told “we’re already here”. There’s not much happening in the South though (except for the occasional earthquake, or avalanches if you’re in the SW) – the north has all the nice smelly geothermal areas and volcanoes, and the glow worms too. Have you been to the Vulcan Pub in Central Otago?

  207. #208 birdseyeUSA
    May 12, 2010

    I give up – am thinking now that the ‘steam ‘ up on the left is clouds hung up in the next valley – have a good day, all you Southern hemisphere folk! (Christmas at the beach was hard for a kid used to snow!)

  208. #209 Jón Frímann
    May 12, 2010

    There have been lighting in the ash plume over the last hours.

  209. #210 Dan, Florida
    May 12, 2010

    Morning Jón. Tried to capture some of it earlier but my timing sucked. Saw a couple but fingers were to slow. 🙁

  210. #211 Helen Leggatt
    May 12, 2010

    lol@ MadScientist – the south island certainly doesn’t have the most “happening” towns (I’m a rural kinda gal so that’s fine by me) but we do have the amazing Alps, the fantastical blue glacial lakes, Fjordland, amazing central Otago (with its haunted Vulcan hotel!) and, to top it all, there are only 1 million people on this island ;0) the other 3 million live on the other one!

  211. #212 M. Randolph Kruger
    May 12, 2010

    Anyone want to comment with authority about all of these quakes that are happening. The last time this mother started aligning we had a vent open up, then the main show and now its creeping North/N. East and SW.

    The tiger sleeps just 8 miles east…..

  212. #213 Holger, N California
    May 12, 2010

    Too bad the fog and clouds rolled back in and we can’t see much anymore.

    Interestingly, Jón Frímann helicorder has started to show increased activity again, and this time it’s too early for construction workers and it doesn’t look like the ‘staccato’ style signal of the last two days.

    My estimate still is that something happened / is happening, we just can’t see what it is…

  213. #214 Renato I Silveira
    May 12, 2010

    Good morning. What’s that supposed to be on Þórólfsföllur cam? Snow or ash fall?

  214. #215 Holger, N California
    May 12, 2010

    @Renato #211

    I think those are rain drops on the Þórólfsföllur cam. I saw several of them merging. Ash particles shouldn’t be able to do that.

  215. #216 Frito Lay
    May 12, 2010

    @ Renato 211 and @Holger 212. It’s ash-laden raindrop sticking to the cam lens.

    What a mess it is out there. Any word on when the weather might clear?

  216. #217 Renato I Silveira
    May 12, 2010

    Thanks, Holger: Neither snow nor ash. Just plain, annoying, rain that keep us from glazing at fireworks. Think time to go to bed.
    Thank you all for the extraordinary footage on Eyjafjallajökull and all enlightening explanations. Be back tomorrow and hear more about the mysterious tremors.

  217. #218 Henrik
    May 12, 2010

    @Marko (#156) Nice summary! Would a Katla eruption indeed be “worse” than the current Eyjafjalla eruption? Like you say, big eruptions of Katla as measured by the VEI are rare. The current Eyjafjalla eruption is already well into the VEI 4 range even if, I suspect, volcanologists probably would say it’s more like a VEI 3 in explosivity even if the amount of erupted material, tephra and lava, qualifies it as a VEI 4. Throughout Iceland’s settled history (Smithsonian GVP), there have only been four eruptions of Katla larger than VEI 4 – 1755, 1721, 1625, 1262.

    From what I understand, the main problem with Katla is that even lesser eruptions are dangerous as she lies under a much thicker glacier. An eruption will have to be quite large for it to blast through the ice and vent most of the energy into the atmosphere as Eyjafjöll volcano is doing now. Therefore, most of the energy contained in the average Katla eruption will melt a lot of ice and cause substantial and lethal jökulhlaups. Is this why Katla is thought of as a big, mean beast of a volcano? I suspect so as there are PLENTY of volcanoes elsewhere with far more impressive records when it comes to big eruptions, VEI 5 or bigger.

  218. #219 tommy
    May 12, 2010

    Weather seem to be clear in couple of hours, if i can read correctly this weatherradar. Nice to see, that where we are going today with this lady

  219. #220 Frito Lay
    May 12, 2010

    @tommy ~ Thank you for that. I think your info agrees with the ground weather forecast at //

    It’s pretty humid now but that should change soon for a few hours.

  220. #221 Frito Lay
    May 12, 2010

    I think I’ve been staring at the Porolfsfell cam too long. Now that the raindrops are drying up, what’s left looks like a bunch of little ash parachutes 🙂

  221. #222 Frito Lay
    May 12, 2010

    Ok…now they’re like.. Pacman.

  222. #223 Frito Lay
    May 12, 2010

    Ok…now they’re like …remember looking at bacteria in a petri dish under a microscope, all crawling around and stuff? It’s like that.

    Who’s making the coffee this morning? 🙂

  223. #224 Kathryn, Australia
    May 12, 2010

    @ Frito – coffee’s on me. Can you make it to Adelaide in 15?

  224. #225 Frito Lay
    May 12, 2010

    @Kathryn. Sure I can be there in 15 days! I’ll bring the Half n Half. See then!

  225. #226 Frito Lay
    May 12, 2010

    Ok then it looked like the Invasion of Normandy, and then it looked like a rapidly-moving solar system (it had a huge sun and everything!), and now it looks like our very own Scrubbing Bubbles are trying valiantly to clean our camera lens.

  226. #227 Kathryn, Australia
    May 12, 2010

    Heavens! I think we’ll all need coffee to keep us awake after watching those raindrops scurry around the lens for so long.
    Ah well, time to head home from work…by the time I get there, I’m hoping for a clearer view.

  227. #228 Frito Lay
    May 12, 2010

    Oooh. Ok now that’s weird. I don’t know how to describe it. “Descending mushrooms” maybe?

  228. #229 Frito Lay
    May 12, 2010

    Drive carefully Kathryn, and keep the lights on here after you get home. I’m heading to bed shortly. Well, once I know all our little water mushrooms have landed safely 🙂

  229. #230 snotra viking
    May 12, 2010

    All you funny people, amazing that you are so eager to get a glimpse that you stare at water drops on a web cam lens! 🙂 I´ts really amusing, I like it, especially Frito´s descriptions of them.
    Right now they´re sliding sideways like cabins on the way down from a mountian top. Can´t find the right word, I mean the ones that goes on cables from valley to top.

  230. #231 Lucky
    May 12, 2010

    Henrik #215. I dont believe your reasoning about Katla. Read about the Vedde Ash, Eldgja and it has the capability to reach a VEI-6. You also have to take into account that it is approaching 100 years since she last blew and that was a minor eruption even though it extended the south coast of by 5 km!!!!!

  231. #232 Frito Lay
    May 12, 2010

    Hi Snotra! Cable cars! Yes! And have you noticed sometimes they almost get to the end of their journey and then they backup? lol

  232. #233 snotra viking
    May 12, 2010

    All you funny people, amazing that you are so eager to get a glimpse that you stare at water drops on a web cam lens! 🙂 I´ts really amusing, I like it, especially Frito´s descriptions of them.
    Right now they´re sliding sideways like cabins on the way down from a mountian top. Can´t find the right word, I mean the ones that goes on cables from valley to top.

  233. #234 bruce stout
    May 12, 2010

    Can someone explain to me the chart Bruno linked to yesterday:

    are the later frames based on real readings or are they a forecast? The time on the right suggests they are a forecast for the coming days (20100513 etc). If so, I wonder what rate of ash emission they are assuming because the concentration really picks up at the end of the series.

  234. @Henrik (#215) – there’s no way to say whether the next Katla eruption (which will certainly happen sooner or later) will be stronger or weaker than the current Eyjafjallajökull eruption. Katla is not giving many signs in this moment, so there’s nothing that could be used for making assumptions on a future eruption. That’s one of the problems with interpreting the state of a volcano, and why volcanologists are apparently often hesitating to make clear statements. We depend on what a volcano gives us. We cannot read where nothing is written.

    It is true that once Katla erupts, there is a great risk of major flooding due to the melting of glaciers. I think a good example of what might happen is the 1996 (VEI 3) eruption at the Gjálp fissure under the Vatnajökull glacier. It cut through a glacier 700 m thick without being a world-shaking disaster.

    About this VEI thing, it’s all about volcanic explosivity, not the quantity of material erupted especially if it accumulates in a certain amount of time. Certainly if an explosive eruption expels a large volume of tephra (that is all loose, fragmented rock material produced by eruptions, like ash, lapilli, bombs, and blocks) in a short time, it merits an elevated VEI but if an eruption sputters on for decades and eventually generates a large amount of tephra – like Sakurajima in Japan, which is producing explosive activity continuously since 1955 – that’s not a large VEI eruption (Sakurajima’s 1955-present eruption has been assigned a VEI of 3, mostly because some of the explosions are quite powerful).

  235. #236 Frito Lay
    May 12, 2010

    @Bruce stout #231 – their disclaimer states that their products are forecast, experimental and not to be used for aviation guidance.

  236. #237 bruce stout
    May 12, 2010

    I beg your pardon, it was not Bruno, it was David Calvo at #55

  237. #238 Philipp / Austria
    May 12, 2010
  238. #239 Peter Tibben
    May 12, 2010

    @Chris #149 You can try for a 14 day trial subscription.

  239. #240 Helen Leggatt
    May 12, 2010

    What movie does the thermal cam remind you of? ;0)

  240. #241 Frito Lay
    May 12, 2010

    @Helen Leggatt ~ The Color Purple?

  241. #242 Helen Leggatt
    May 12, 2010

    @Frito ;D

  242. #243 Frito Lay
    May 12, 2010

    @Helen YAY! What did I win?

  243. #244 Philipp / Austria
    May 12, 2010
  244. #245 Helen Leggatt
    May 12, 2010

    You win a trip to your local opticians because you’ll need it after staring at those cams all day…

  245. #246 Frito Lay
    May 12, 2010

    @Philipp ~ What a great video, as always.

    @Helen ~ You owe me an adult diaper.

  246. #247 Helen Leggatt
    May 12, 2010

    @Frito – new brand out “Depends for Watchers – never miss a moment”

  247. #248 Frito Lay
    May 12, 2010

    @Helen Leggatt ~ Can’t read your last post. Please re-post in a waaaay bigger font. Thalgs im afbacve …

  248. #249 Tintin
    May 12, 2010

    Here is the TimeLApse movie from the FLIR Camera for 2010-05-11

  249. #250 Kultsi, Askola, FI
    May 12, 2010

    The meteo radar pic does not agree with reality: radar shows no clouds in the south; webcams show something else – although things seem to be clearing up.

  250. #251 Frito Lay
    May 12, 2010

    Ok I found my glasses. Who else is mesmerized by the two.. no wait ..focus, focus! OK one drop on the Porolfsfell cam?

  251. #252 Frito Lay
    May 12, 2010

    @Kultsi #247 ~ what’s the link you’re at?

  252. #253 Vince
    May 12, 2010

    Weather doesn’t look very promissing now, a lot of low clouds (yellow color) on satelite imagery:

    But lets wait and see

  253. #254 Kultsi, Askola, FI
    May 12, 2010
  254. #255 Frito Lay
    May 12, 2010

    @TinTin #246 ~ Awesome video that clearly shows the eruption moving towards the left.

    @Helen Leggatt ~ I think it’s time you prepare yourself to say goodbye to your beloved arch. We’re all here for you, friend (-:

  255. #256 Frito Lay
    May 12, 2010

    @Kultsi ~ Thanks for the link. Do you think it would be more meaningful to look at cloud bottoms rather than tops?

  256. #257 Henrik
    May 12, 2010

    @Lucky (#228). First, Katla is believed to have erupted since 1918. Second, a look at the eruptive history of Katla such as the one provided by the Smithsonian Global Volcanism Program should calm your fears slightly. That a volcano has produced one devastating eruption in the distant past is not a reliable guide to the nature of next eruption. Even if Katla at some point in time over the next 15,000 years or so is likely to produce a new eruption to rival the Vedde Ash in size, it is not very likely that it is going to be the very next one even if it cannot be ruled out today, on May 12th 2010. Geologic time is a funny thing, it could turn out to be next Tuesday or 25,000 years from now.

    You can also look at it this way: If you and I had been around in the year 1000 AD and were to predict the upcoming eruptions and you said “Vedde Ash-size” and I said “No more than a VEI 4”, how many times would you have been correct/wrong and how many times would I have been?

    @Boris (#232) It’s funny in a way that when it comes to the size of Katla’s next eruption, I’m “less of an alarmist” than you are. 😉 😉

  257. #258 Helen Leggatt
    May 12, 2010

    @Frito… I went to make a coffee and my arch disappears? Huh? Oh no.. what did I miss?? 🙁 Or is it just that you can’t see it lol

  258. #259 Frito Lay
    May 12, 2010

    @Vince #251 ~ What a great link! Thank you.

  259. #260 Frito Lay
    May 12, 2010

    @Helen ~ Thank you for the coffee. *sip* Umm..did you ever see the movie Aladdin? Remember the song “A Whole New World”? Start humming it.

  260. @Lucky (#228), Henrik is perfectly right. The fact that a volcano is capable of making very large eruptions does not mean its next one will be very large. It’s like thinking of us getting sick next time, there’s a chance it will be some horrible disease but in all probability (hopefully) it will turn out a simple cold. If we worry all our lives about getting a horrible disease, we’ll destroy our mental health.

    Henrik (#255), hahahaha and I guess everybody here knows (and I fear some even dislike) that I’m really not much of an alarmist. Frankly, I am not worried about Katla, as little as I am worried about Yellowstone, I am worried about a lot of things which are not only likely to happen in the short term, quite a few do already happen and that’s what we should be concerned about.

    At the same time we MUST absolutely think about bad things that might happen but that must be done calmly and in a practicaly way – like we here at Etna are trying to educate the population to be ready for a disruptive and destructive eruption of our volcano, which inevitably one day will happen again. It’s not enought telling people that something bad may happen, they need to understand what they will have to do once they occur, like having a list of things they want to take with them once the’re ordered to evacuate, and all their important personal documents in a drawer, and so on.

  261. #262 Frito Lay
    May 12, 2010

    Okay this is my first and last trip to fun World of Haiku:

    Life through a camera
    Four cute little amoebas
    I need strong coffee

  262. #263 Andy
    May 12, 2010

    @Henrik (#215) Nice summary – I agree with you on the relative merits of a Katla vs an Eyjafjallajokull eruption. Katla does not need to have an explosive eruption to be destructive (and the 92-year gap does not immediately mean that the next one will be explosive), but any significant eruption, even if not enormously explosive, will produce a lot of floodwater. It’s unlikely to cause any more loss of life either, unless the floodwater goes in an unusual direction (nobody lives on Myrdalssandur!), although Vik would probably be evacuated.
    Additionally, most of Katla’s tephras are basaltic, including all the historic tephras originating from the central volcano. You get large volumes of tephra because of the interaction with meltwater, but the tephra tends to be coarser than a corresponding andesitic or rhyolitic tephra. Large basaltic tephras are unusual outside Iceland because of the glacier-volcano mix. My guess would be that a Katla plume of the same explosivity as the Eyjafjallajokull one would cause less international disruption as the coarser tephra would travel less far and fall from the atmosphere more readily. And of course little disruption if the wind takes the tephra north!

  263. #264 bruce stout
    May 12, 2010

    Boris, do you have any update on Etna? Have there been any more signs of unrest? (We’re (cough) flying down next Saturday.)

  264. #265 Anna, Reykjavík
    May 12, 2010

    Update on activity from the IMO
    Eruption in Eyjafjallajökull, Iceland
    Conditions – 11 May 2010 18:45

    The grey eruption plume is heading southsoutheast and its height is similar to previous days. Observations from air and web cameras show similar activity to yesterday. In the afternoon there was an increase in explosive activity, giving darker and slightly higher plume.

    No major changes are seen in the activity, but small variation can still be expected. Presently there are no indications that the eruption is about to end.

  265. #266 Frito Lay
    May 12, 2010

    @Boris #259
    “It’s not enought telling people that something bad may happen, they need to understand what they will have to do once they occur, like having a list of things they want to take with them once the’re ordered to evacuate, and all their important personal documents in a drawer, and so on.”

    That’s practical advice for any emergency where one would have to evacuate their home.

  266. #267 Ruby
    May 12, 2010

    12 May 2010 … One hundred and five passengers and crew are dead after their Libyan plane
    arriving from South Africa crashed at Tripoli airport.

    I read yesterday that the Ash cloud was over Africa any connection do you think. It is really awful there was only one survivor a Dutch child.

  267. #268 Chris, Reykjavik
    May 12, 2010

    @Frito Lay, #160: You tend to forget sometimes, that not all the news is spread worldwide 🙂 On the track to Thórsmörk some 6km of road are missing since the floodings.

    @Peter Tibben, #236: Thanks for the link.

  268. #269 bruce stout
    May 12, 2010

    motto of story, always take your own bridge.

  269. #270 Frito Lay
    May 12, 2010

    @Chris #266 – I thought I would have heard about the demise of one of our three beloved Mila cams here first 🙂 Thank you for the information.

  270. #271 Frito Lay
    May 12, 2010

    @Ruby #265 ~ That’s horrible. I hope the Dutch child hasn’t been orphaned (: As far as ash between South Africa and Tripoli affecting the flight, it’s highly unlikely.

  271. #272 Frito Lay
    May 12, 2010

    Re #269 the (: should be a ):

  272. #273 snotra viking, sweden
    May 12, 2010

    Just checked the plot of tremors on and the EQ map. It looks like the volcano has taken a little nap behind the clouds. Or is it just because I have no view in the cams, that I get this impression? Is the eruption still going strong behind the clouds?

    Question for experienced volcanologists; how can one see when/if the eruption is declining, in graphs and EQ and so on? Are there any signs to look for?

  273. #274 La Kat
    May 12, 2010

    @ snotra viking, sweden 271

    Perhaps it is wise, to never turn one’s back on a volcano which now seems to be “behaving” a little better – she might just be sulking and then give you a greater “outburst” than before! (Aka Redoubt!)

  274. #275 snotra viking
    May 12, 2010

    @La Kat
    I´m not so familiar with the Redoubt story, I have grasped that the volcano had an eruption nobody predicted. Am I right? Was it similiar to this, an ongoing eruption, that suddenly went to “BIG”?

  275. #276 birdseyeUSA
    May 12, 2010

    Good morning snotra viking see here
    for some Redoubt info. There was a link posted in a previous thread to an interview with Bernard Chouet, very nice. I’ll try to find it after I get some coffee….
    We will now take up ‘raindrop watch’ here so that Kathryn and Helen can get some sleep!
    Thanks Boris, Henrik et al for the discussion.

  276. #277 La Kat
    May 12, 2010

    @ snotra viking, sweden 274

    From my reading:

    There are often precursory signs but I understand that each volcano has its own seismic signature; moreover, each particular eruption is at least going to be slightly different to its previous one making it harder to predict yet it would seem that loose patterns do seem to emerge for some.

    After an eruption, the height, shape and composition of that particular volcano has changed (sometimes a little but sometimes dramatically) so obviously any subsequent eruption will reflect this to some extent.

    Re: Redoubt

    Bernard Chouet did predict one eruption (more?) and she did go quiet and had her alert status reduced just before a big one!

    Loads of links available but you can access some here:

  277. #278 Vince
    May 12, 2010

    #271 @snotra viking

    Ash column still there, but maybe a bit weaker than yesterday at the same time. But I’m not entirely sure about that.
    Satellite comparison:

  278. #279 ægean
    May 12, 2010

    @Helen #242, @Frito Lay #248
    This tiny, free software reduces screen related eye strain. Highly recommended for volcano gazing and reading. 😀

  279. #280 Scarlet Pumpernickel
    May 12, 2010
  280. #281 La Kat
    May 12, 2010

    @ snotra viking,sweden 273

    Here is a nice one for you; it is called: “Predicting eruptions the scientific way”! I think I may have posted it before…


  281. @snotra viking (#273) the story about Redoubt is that the eruption was expected very well, but the volcano decided to wait another two months until it finally let loose. This happened in January-March 2009. It has to be noted that at the end of January 2009 Redoubt produced pretty much the same signals that it had shown the day before it erupted in 1989. It looked nearly exactly the same. In 1989 it erupted the next day, as forecast. In 2009 it waited another two months. So again, it’s not the volcanologists who are wrong when they don’t predict (or forecast) an eruption precisely enough. It’s that a volcano gives only so much clear warning, and – like Redoubt in 2009 – it may decide to change its plans in the very last moment. We can’t say for sure any more than a volcano allows us to say, and that’s often very little.

  282. #283 stu
    May 12, 2010

    whats the little cross with triangle at the bottom doing ?

  283. #284 birdseyeUSA
    May 12, 2010

    @Philipp 241 thanks for the FLIR
    Seems to me if you keep an eye on the hot spot, it stays the same – I still think it was a wind change blowing the plume to the left.
    Waiting for a view!
    @La Kat thanks for finding that and reposting.

  284. #285 sunday
    May 12, 2010

    Cloud cover lifted a bit in Thoro cam.

    There is new meltwater

  285. #286 birdseyeUSA
    May 12, 2010

    @sunday 283, also it has been raining, but definitely more water. The little (not so in reality, probably) runoff stream to the right of split rock is visible again

  286. #287 La Kat
    May 12, 2010

    @ Boris Behncke 280

    And what about Costa Rica’s Turrialba (our “persistent and unpleasant degasser”)? Noone is likely to want to predict what she is going to do, anytime soon. Sulky and truculent behaviour indeed from the look of her seismicity. I’d like to rename her: “Miss Mercurial”.

    Link for anyone who is interested:

  287. #288 Reynir, .is
    May 12, 2010

    #281: Hunting for hot spots.

  288. #289 Ryan
    May 12, 2010

    Am I looking at the thermals right? is the ground hotter than the Mt.

  289. #290 birdseyeUSA
    May 12, 2010

    Clouds shield the mountain hot areas, foreground is showing warmer, always does- see FLIR time-lapse@241 or 246 for an idea of how it goes..

  290. @ La Kat (#285), you name it. But it’s not that no one wants to predict, no one has enough data to predict. That’s a slight difference :

  291. I don’t know what happend to my previous comment. It should have continued somewhat like this:

    Of Turrialba we can say what we know, which is that most of its eruptions have been small to modest-sized events, a VEI 3 in the 1860s that produced small pyroclastic flows and mudflows without apparently causing damage. A VEI 4 event occurred about 2000 years ago and a still larger eruption more than 9000 years ago. Most probably the ongoing eruptive episode will culminate in something similar to the 1860s eruption – but that’s all that can be said with the data that are available. If a volcano gives us only so much information, we can say only so much.

    Talking about Latin American volcanoes. At Villarrica volcano in Chile, the level of alert has been raised after an increase in the intracrater lava lake activity. Yes, Villarrica has an active lava lake, since more than 20 years, which shows strong fluctuations in its level. There are some really nice photos on my friend Werner Keller’s POVI website:

  292. #293 La Kat
    May 12, 2010

    @ Boris Behncke 289

    I think that is what gets us all so hooked – the unpredictable behaviour that volcanoes exhibit. (Will she/won’t she?!)

    To “expect the unexpected” is what makes it all so exciting!

    You just have to hope that humans have enough warning to be far enough away from harm at the time that one erupts.

  293. #294 birdseyeUSA
    May 12, 2010

    looks like we still might be getting lightning up there? saw a blink on HVOL cam & Jón F’s link I think shows it too – ? Jón?

  294. #295 MK, Alberta
    May 12, 2010

    Hello all! I just got back yesterday from 13 days in the UK, and there were no delays due to volcanic ash in both the outbound and return flights. I was more worried about the weather in Calgary on the day I left for Manchester on April 28, as there was a blizzard at the time. Not an unusual occurrence there even in the spring, partly due to Calgary’s altitude. But I had heard there were delay concerns in some UK airports yesterday and the day before that prior to me leaving the UK, including Gatwick.

    On my return flight home to Edmonton yesterday from Gatwick, the captain on the Thomas Cook A330 made an announcement that he had to put the aircraft on a more northerly course than normal obviously due to Eyjaf. As the A330 was going over Iceland, I could see Eyjaf’s gray eruption plume way off in the distance on the horizon. The plane was likely going just north of the Vatnajokull Glacier, because I did see a lot of blindingly white ice between me and Eyjaf.

  295. #296 Anna, Reykjavík
    May 12, 2010

    Looks like it will clear up in 2-3 hours.

    Ashfall continues and the ash is turning into black sludge in the rain.

  296. #297 Barbara, Germany
    May 12, 2010

    New satellite photo from the plume above the clouds

  297. #298 Barbara, Germany
    May 12, 2010

    Detail from the above mentioned pic (aqua modis nasa)

  298. #299 Peter Cobbold
    May 12, 2010

    Those wishing to follow up Passerby’s comment #184 about
    ‘unusual crustal activity’ might find these EQ maps useful:
    All-Iceland monthly map from 2009 onwards:
    Weekly map since 1995:

    And, for anyone wishing to make the definitive 3D movie, every EQ recorded in Iceland since 1995: time, co-ordinates, magnitude, depth:

  299. #300 Ryan
    May 12, 2010

    Anyone else watching Flir, clouds have cleared and you can see the thing really smoking now. Is it normal for the forground to be the same temp as the ash coming from the top? I leave for Paris june 4th from Boston, never been to Europe. This and now the Katla talk is making me mental

  300. #301 Dan, Florida
    May 12, 2010

    Future ash outlook for UK doesn’t look good.

  301. #302 Henrik
    May 12, 2010

    15.20-5 GMT (New Thorolfsfelli cam). It looks as if the crevasse has widened and that there are some “cratering” about half-way up on the lefthand (E) side of the Gígjökull glacier. There definitely is much more steam activity along the lava flow compared with the last few days. The eruption column looks not as tall and a bit more intermittent. Mind you, it is hard to make reliable observations under the prevailing conditions with just a small gap in the clouds where the sun shines through.

  302. #303 Henrik
    May 12, 2010

    Also, to judge by the thermal camera there is a more continuous lava flow than on preceeding days. There ia a caveat though – it seems the temperature scale has been readjusted a fair bit, which could give a false imprssion of change.

  303. #304 birdseyeUSA
    May 12, 2010

    @henrik 299 With the plume blowing hot to the left all night, maybe the increased steam and melt is just from plume contact with previously ‘untouched’ ice at crater edge…might have dropped a few bombs further down the glacier, too, what think you?

  304. #305 Raving
    May 12, 2010

    Makes no sense. Surely not a fissure opening on the valley floor?

  305. #306 Henrik, Swe
    May 12, 2010

    You refer to the big “white” thermal print where the end of Gígjökull and the little lake used to be, Raving?

  306. #307 Raving
    May 12, 2010

    Yes. I would expect steam and I would have to assume the pink is sunlight. Still the hot FLIR image. Really doesn’t make sense though.

  307. #308 birdseyeUSA
    May 12, 2010

    @Raving – eh? If you’re looking at FLIR only, radiant heat from sun thru cloud gaps, I think. Nothing else on other cams.Thermal spotter just desperate for something to do.

  308. #309 Raving
    May 12, 2010

    Normalization blues. 🙂

  309. #310 R. de Haan
    May 12, 2010

    You can watch the plume “life” here:

  310. #311 Henrik, Swe
    May 12, 2010

    BirdseyeUSA (#302). Could very well be. Could also be a combination of a renewed lava flow and rain collecting in the chasm cutting a path below the “untouched” glacier to theleft and a subsequent collapse (as happened at the start of the main eruption). Or the “cratering” may just have been an optical illusion caused by steam, cloud, ice and sunlight. Hopefully the weather will clear enough for us to get a better look soon!

  311. #312 birdseyeUSA
    May 12, 2010

    @307 Ah-good one –

  312. #313 Randall Nix
    May 12, 2010

    Boris Vereor Eyjafjallajökull….Vereor Yellowstone….Vereor Etna;)

    Also I have lots of good poems and and literature to use when Etna blows….Etna was a very popular place for Romantic writers and Age Of Reason scientists….it seems like they all had something to say about Etna:)

  313. #314 Anna, Reykjavík
    May 12, 2010

    @Raving #304

    The hottest spots in the FLIR image at the present represent the meltwater. It’s perhaps 10-20 C hot, much hotter than the flanks of the mountain or the icecap.

  314. #315 Jón Frímann
    May 12, 2010

    Here is a new video of the eruption. It was taken yesterday.

  315. #316 La Kat
    May 12, 2010

    @ Daniel 105

    @ Merlin UK 113

    Re: Volcano glossary

    Thanks (both)for your kind comments – glad you liked the link!

    With such complex terms, I found it rather a good system to have a ‘hover/quick reminder’ of a term in addition to a ‘click for more in-depth info’ facility.

    Thanks from me,too, to all those others who post such helpful or fascinating info, and superb videas/photos etc. at this site.

    And above all, thanks to Erik, our host, for his guidance and for making it happen.

  316. #317 motsfo
    May 12, 2010

    i’ve spent a lot of long winter nights watching the seismic readout of Redoubt. If You think EJ is mesmorizing; just watch the readouts for a volcano out Your window,in the dark, minus temps, perhaps teatering on the brink of oblivion. You think long hours wax poetic? Well i got a crush on RSO, one of the observation stations very near the
    top of Redoubt. i came to rely on the little buddie and since the AVO (Alaska Volcanic Observatory) had a live person sitting up around the clock we’d occasionly share thoughts. When the readouts stopped from RSO i emailed the AVO attendent and said…”i feel like i’ve lost a friend!”
    Friends become very dear in the cold and the dark. We comisserated, and when, long afterwards, RSO was recovered
    and revived…. The public got the message..”The RSO unit was reworked and is now back on line…. MY message from the
    AVO people was…”RSO LIVES!!!”
    And we both felt a friend was brought back from the dead.

    Was this post too ‘touchy-feely’ for You…
    here’s a little volcano info..
    My daughter who got a lot of ash last time lost her snow
    first and she’d gotten lots more snow than i did.
    ps… @279 La Kat .. i really enjoyed the story from the other end… all i got originally was…’some guy told us our volcano was erupting, from down south!’

  317. #318 Anna, Reykjavík
    May 12, 2010

    Icelandic and Swiss geo-scientists plus a TV crew from Switzerland watch bombs fly!

    (video link in #312)

  318. #319 parclair NoCal USA
    May 12, 2010

    @ Anna, you were right– like moths to a flame. I’d be there if I could–

  319. #320 birdseyeUSA
    May 12, 2010

    @AnnaReyk. But can’t I see the river winding its way thru the lagoon outlet, looking sort of red, between the warmer hills?
    @Jón F -RE: video …!!

  320. #321 Barbara, Germany
    May 12, 2010

    #312 amazing video. Thanks for posting!

  321. #322 Jon
    May 12, 2010

    @317 … much of that warm area (white) you are referring too is located on the right hand moraine (above the water flow) so I don’t think warm water is causing it. As you point out you can see the river flowing through the channel in dark red/orange.

  322. #323 Henrik
    May 12, 2010

    17.06 GMT Eruption plume visible from Hvolsvöllur – same-ish height as on previous days.

  323. #324 birdseyeUSA
    May 12, 2010

    …and on FLir looks like it’s still blowing pretty hard to the left.

  324. #325 Fireman
    May 12, 2010

    @ Jón312: the Godasteinn seems to be a popular viewing spot; I’m going to try to make it there on my next trip, weather and volcanism permitting!

  325. #326 Raving
    May 12, 2010

    Strange pinks in the wide field camera. Yesterday’s earthquake(s) were spurious too.

    Yes, it’s nonsense and mildly intriguing and I am ignorant and speculative.

    10.05.2010 23:42:01 63.689 -19.583 0.8 km 1.5 90.01 5.2 km WNW of Básar

  326. #327 Jón Frímann
    May 12, 2010

    @Fireman, That area is closed off. You are going to need a permission from the authorities. I am sure that you won’t get it.

  327. #328 Henrik
    May 12, 2010

    I’m sure his “mad friend” Gummie(?) will introduce Mike as his “co-driver & engineer” to the scientific teams Gummie regularly take up there, isn’t this true? 😉

  328. #329 Timo
    May 12, 2010

    I have today watched picasa pictures (the big ones) from 17.4 to 11.5 and focused the left side (E)of voda pics.

    I have noticed that the melting have increased huge on that side. What is causing the flows?

    Could it be possible that EJ is digging out road to the old crater (orange lined in pdf) between current and the first errupt? That’s only a thought…?

  329. #330 Anna, Reykjavík
    May 12, 2010

    @Jon #317

    This FLIR image is kind of perplexing, you don’t know what the temperature range is for one thing.

    The meltwater that’s now running in rivers or rivulets over the moraine is most certainly warm, even hot.

    But the river that’s closest to the camera can’t be hot (it’s not meltwater coming from Eyja, or at least I don’t think so), yet it has shown up white on the FLIR cam as well. So I don’t know what to think.

    Either you need to be some sort of expert to interpret these FLIR images or the info is so general it doesn’t tell you much.

  330. #331 birdseyeUSA
    May 12, 2010

    OK, I’ve been pondering asking this for a couple of days – who would/could organize a field trip (might have to run in several sessions!) on Icelandic vulcanism for, say a year or two from now, for some of Erik’s less knowledgeable but nevertheless devoted Ejya followers, including those who are not quite so able to run up and down mountains as they once were …? Combined with a crash course on Icelandic history and culture, meaning National Museum and Folk Museum and art/literature… : )

  331. #332 Raving
    May 12, 2010

    @328 Drool. Wish. Dream. … Harðfiskur

  332. #333 Anita in Austria
    May 12, 2010

    Hi everybody,
    I’m not sure if I’m slow in seeing this, but I just noticed on the Voda cam that there’s a white creepy face peeping out of The Crack.

  333. #334 Lurking
    May 12, 2010

    “There is no such thing as a stupid question”… unless I am doing the asking.

    So, here it goes.

    On the earthquake reports, the depth that is listed, is it reference to mean sea level or to the ground surface at that location?

    I ask since I have dropped the data set for the terrain on and around the volcano(Eyjafjallajökull) in with my depth plots in an effort to get a clearer view of that 6.9º slope line of quakes that I mentioned a while back. If the depth is referenced to MSL, then there really is no alarm (as far as I can tell) in the alignment… just a likely sill forming. On the other hand, if they are referenced to the local ground elevation… it might be worrisome.

    Thanks in advance.

  334. #335 Shelly
    May 12, 2010

    #328 count me in.. lol 🙂

  335. #336 Nancy, Netherlands
    May 12, 2010
  336. #337 Dan, Florida
    May 12, 2010

    @330 Anita After I stared at it long enough I saw it too. But then again, I see rabbits in cloud formations also. LOL

  337. #338 parclair NoCal USA
    May 12, 2010

    @Nancy 333 Pretty nice. Thanks for the post;)

  338. #339 Shelly
    May 12, 2010

    Am laughing here.. Whilst I was watching the plume above the cloud on the Hvol cam my 15 yr old autistic daughter is sitting beside me singing ‘cloud, cloud go away come again another day’..

    Not so funny you may think? Well! once she starts up a chant she’ll do it constantly for a few days.. Oh well, it’s a change from ‘cup of tea, cup of tea’…

    I hope the clouds are listening..

  339. #340 birdseyeUSA
    May 12, 2010

    @Lurking 331 On there’s a ‘contact’ link – busy people, but someone might know offhand if no-one here answers…

  340. #341 Lurking
    May 12, 2010

    @birdseyeUSA [337]

    Thanks, I had to break anonymity but I shot them a mail. I’m pretty sure I won’t be getting any viagra advertisements from them.

  341. #342 birdseyeUSA
    May 12, 2010

    @Timo 326 Mebbe so but I would think there would have been a lot more runoff than seems to be evident? The river flow records would tell that tale – looks right now as thought heat from the plume might work on a connection, but plume still seems to originate to the old spot.

  342. #343 David Calvo
    May 12, 2010

    Hi everybody: Don´t know about the wind regime today, but it seems activity today is quite explosive, at least what i can see through Hvolsvelli cam….

  343. #344 Corporal_E
    May 12, 2010

    I can hardly wait for the rest of the clouds to get out of the way on the Hvol cam. The rest of the view is great.

  344. #345 birdseyeUSA
    May 12, 2010

    Hmm– ignorance here, was just going to say I thought it looked less lumpy and ‘wrinklier’ and therefore maybe less explosive?? or different sort of explosive?

  345. #346 Jane
    May 12, 2010

    Interesting link!

    11. May 2010 – 08:33 Jóna Ann Pétursdóttir…upt-in-iceland

  346. #347 Henrik
    May 12, 2010

    David, It’s a bit deceptive as the wind carries the plume almost straight away (WSW) as seen from Hvolsvöllur. On the Vodafone or Thorolfsfelli cameras, you can see that the plume does not rise particularly high before it’s swept away to the left (east). But if you zoom in on the Vodafone cam, you can see the occasional “bomb” being ejected, so yes, it is explosive (Strombolian rather than Vulcanian today?).

  347. #348 birdseyeUSA
    May 12, 2010
  348. #349 Jane
    May 12, 2010

    #343 I aplologise for the broken link. Here is what the article says:

    11. May 2010 – 08:33 Jóna Ann Pétursdóttir…upt-in-iceland

    Seismic activity under Bardarbunga has scientists speculating about a possible eruption.
    Seismic activity has been ongoing in Bardarbunga in Vatnajökull for several weeks now. Bardarbunga is the largest volcano in Iceland, located in the country’s largest glacier, Vatnajökull. This activity, scientists say, could suggest that the volcano is about to erupt or volcanos in that area.
    Ever since Eyjafjallajökull erupted in April there have been speculations about the volcano Katla. After an eruption in Eyjafjallajökull Katla has usually followed. There are, however, no signs that Katla is about to erupt.
    Bardarbunga in Vatnajökull on the other hand, has been showing seismic activity for over five weeks. Ari Trausti Gudmundsson geologist says that over one hundred small earthquakes have been measured under Bardarbunga and the reason could be a possible magma intrusion deep under the volcano. Ari has given the Department of Civil Protection and Emergency Management his findings. Gudrun Johannesdottir a project manager with the department told that scientists are following the activity in Bardarbunga closely.
    Omar Ragnarsson, a keen volcano enthusiast and former reporter, has also been following the activity closely and says in his blog on 12 March:
    An eruption in the northeastern part of Vatnajökull could have greater ramifications than an eruption in Eyjafjallajökull since it could lead
    to catastrophic flooding. The axle Bardarbunga-Grimsvötn is the center of the volcanic belt that runs from the southwest to the northwest of Iceland and the center of the mantle plume which is under Iceland. This mantle plume is one of the two largest in the world. The other one is
    under Hawaii. The largest earthquakes recorded this year at Bardarbunga are 3,3 and 4,0 on the Richter scale, the largest recorded since 2002. The volcano at Bardarbunga is estimated to be around 200 kilometers long and up to
    25 kilometers wide. It is covered in ice. Bardarbunga has never erupted in historic times but the largest lava flow in the world stems from Bardarbunga when it erupted 8500 years ago.
    Steinunn S. Jakobsdottir, project manager with the Icelandic Met Office says the activity has been considerable in the area all this year and the IMO is keeping a close watch on the situation although there is no reason to fear an eruption just yet. However the activity shows that Bardarbunga is alive and kicking.
    There have been eruptions in that area every five years, in Gjálp 1996 and Grimsvötn 1998 and 2004. Even though there is seismic activity under Bardarbunga that doesn´t necessarily mean that Bardarbunga will erupt.
    When Gjálp erupted in 1996, for example, seismic activity had been right under Bardarbunga for some time before.

  349. #350 Fireman
    May 12, 2010

    @ Jón – I’m a fireman, a hazardous material technician, a geologist, and a Scotsman! I wouldn’t bet on it either way 😉

  350. #351 Raving
    May 12, 2010

    #346, #343 Here is the Jóna Ann Pétursdóttir article.

  351. #352 Corporal_E
    May 12, 2010
  352. #353 Reynir, .is
    May 12, 2010

    The Katla-cam is almost literally black and white.

  353. #354 Gijs de Reijke
    May 12, 2010

    In case no one has posted this here before, check this out:

    How an eruption can provide material for artistic expression…

  354. #355 Timo
    May 12, 2010

    @birdseye #339 Thanks for you comment:) I have also woundered the runoff. Looking the web cam pic’s, I have zoomed 100->400% and it can be a lot of think that what is really goinig on (clouds, sun position…) so it is all my speculatin and the zooming can falls all you think you are seeing…..

    I’m sure that my experience is not enought of thease things, but it has been really interest of what should be the next point…

  355. #356 La Kat
    May 12, 2010

    @ 346 and 348/9

    Re: Bardarbunga Earthquakes

    You might like to read this article:

  356. #357 sunday
    May 12, 2010

    Anyone else seeing a hot spot in Thoro, dark in visible light, to the right of the glacier that seems to be giving grey-blue smoke?

  357. #358 Jon
    May 12, 2010

    @327 … Anna … I guess all one can say is that it was warmer according to the flIR … why? Who knows 🙂 I wish it would warm up where I live!

  358. #359 john ratcliffe
    May 12, 2010

    hey guys. Been lurking here for a few weeks,and always got beaten to the punch when I have seen something that might be significant. But looking at the vodafone cam, is there a steam plume rising from the area of the Steinsholtsjokull glacier (far left)?

  359. #360 sunday
    May 12, 2010

    False alarm. Never mind. It’s rock.

  360. #361 Nancy, Netherlands
    May 12, 2010

    Looks like Iceland is getting the full load of Ash tomorrow

  361. #362 Lavendel, Switzerland
    May 12, 2010

    #353 La Kat : the link isn’t working for me…

    # 328 : *dream*. That would be wonderfull. I think I will start saving right away!

  362. #363 claire uk
    May 12, 2010

    The Hvols cam looks amazing.

    Has action increased?

  363. #364 Corporal_E
    May 12, 2010

    @353 …La Kat…Thanks for the link. Big glacier, eh?

  364. #365 Martyn Wells
    May 12, 2010

    As a member of a weather forum, I’d be very interested in knowing what eruption-based changes lead to the electrification of the plume again earlier today.

    Might it be that there is now a different ash composition in the plume, allowing for charge separation? I’m assuming that the initial electrification (14-18 April) was caused by the charge separation across water and ash nucleii.

    Might we have now have a hotter vent surface, adding additional vigour to the updaft? This is not manifested by the height of the plume, although this is also as a result of less explosiveness as there is less magma/water interaction.

    I’d welcome some expert opinion on this phenomenom please.

  365. #366 Reynir, .is
    May 12, 2010

    #362: Earlier today? I’m quite certain I saw one more on the widescreen cam a few minutes ago.

  366. #367 Renato I Silveira
    May 12, 2010

    Good evening! I’ve just made my tour of cams and earthquakes. It’s so amazing this unceasing activity! it seems I’ll never get tired of it.

  367. #368 sunday
    May 12, 2010

    #356: Yes. That cloud has not moved in half an hour.

  368. #369 Kenneth
    May 12, 2010

    @Lavendel (#359)
    “La Kat : the link isn’t working for me…”

    I experienced the same when using Firefox, but there was no problem when I tried google chrome or IE8…

  369. #370 Reynir, .is
    May 12, 2010

    #366: No wonder. Firefox sees all the text on the page text as commented out.

  370. #371 ghostdogjp belgium
    May 12, 2010

    good night everybody

    i given up these cloud

    and wish you good peeking

  371. #372 john ratcliffe
    May 12, 2010

    Thank you sunday.
    Anybody else see it?
    Anybody got an opinion/analysis? re post 356?

  372. #373 stigger
    May 12, 2010

    @144 Agree with your post as there are a variety of reasons why eruptions affect climate; first they have to reach the stratosphere, hence volcanoes nearer the equator tend to have greater global impact in this respect (but not always). Eruptions north of 30 degrees ted to circulate at that latitude rather than spread globally.

    Large eruptions that can reach through the troposphere and into the stratosphere affect climate through scattering, transmission, and absorption of radiation as well as by acting as cloud condensation nuclei. Particulates with a long atmospheric residence time scatter red wavelengths creating beautiful sunsets in the short term.

    Cooling is also caused by ‘sulphur haze’, SO2 etc rises into the stratosphere and mixes with water vapour to form a haze of tiny droplets of sulphuric acid. They reflect incoming sunlight due to their pale colour. They do eventually fall to Earth as Acid Rain but this can take months or years due to the dryness of the Stratosphere.

  373. #374 thor
    May 12, 2010

    I am In Awe,. wow, look at the plume,.

    eyjafjöll reminds me more and more about the volcano In the movie Dantes Peak,. look at that.. There is no words really..

    what`s next this Lady have in store for us?

  374. #375 Lavendel, Switzerland
    May 12, 2010

    #366, Kenneth : thank you. That could be the problem, as I use Firefox as my standard browser.
    I don’t have IE, but I’ll try another one.

  375. #376 Emanuel Landeholm
    May 12, 2010

    @359, @366:

    Page contains HTML errors. I’m mirroring a corrected copy, click on my name below for the link.

  376. #377 birdseyeUSA
    May 12, 2010

    @356,369 About midnight ET there was all kinds of activity including, two of us thought, behind the upper Gigj. left ridge – Steinholts is one valley further over,though,by my map…but hard to determine then because of heavy clouds and low ceiling – I have been wondering about a possible detour to Steinholts for a while, but the big river doesn’t seem much different (except normal melt and rain runoff.) There’s one cloud over there that can be tricky, that valley seems to generate its own clouds. Got me a few threads ago…I haven’t been on for a bit so didn’t see what you’re referring to just now, sorry.

  377. #378 Emanuel Landeholm
    May 12, 2010

    @373: Link corrected… (sigh!) Click my name below for a mirror of the Bardarbunga page.

  378. #379 birdseyeUSA
    May 12, 2010

    People trying to access the Bardabunga article – try and search for the title there, might work better?

  379. #380 Jane
    May 12, 2010

    @348, 349 & 353

    Many thanks!

  380. #381 Andrew
    May 12, 2010

    @374 in regards to @356, 369. I see it as well. If you pull up the Vodafon cam and change the hour to 19 and minutes to 39, you’ll see a great capture of what appears to be a steam cloud. I though at first it was a regular cloud formed by condensation, but that shot at 19:39, makes it truly appear like a pretty thick cloud of steam rising directly from the glaciar. Though it could all just be the clouds and lights playing with the optics, but let’s get a few more opinions. For anyone else, the voda site is:

  381. #382 john ratcliffe
    May 12, 2010

    @374. Thanks for that. I thought about that for a while, but thought wind speed was a bit too high for that amount of cloud to be generated, and it was very fixed to one place.
    Something to puzzle on, as it’s now completely obscured by current conditions.
    Thanks again for input, birdseyeUSA.

  382. #383 Corporal_E
    May 12, 2010

    This You tube link has footage of the volcano:!

    It is saying there was a ufo at the volcano yesterday. Could this be ball lightning generated by the ash cloud?

  383. #384 john ratcliffe
    May 12, 2010

    @378. Thanks Andrew. Confirm that is what I saw.

  384. #385 bruce stout
    May 12, 2010

    #314 Motsfo,

    nice story!!

  385. #386 Dan, Florida
    May 12, 2010

    @379 Airplane/helicopter in my opinion.

  386. #387 Henrik
    May 12, 2010

    Re #356, 369, 374. If you go back to 19h25m and take it fwd 1m at a time to 19h55m, it looks as if its a cloud bank that dissolves and reforms. Why this should be so and how it could reform first and then remain in that exact position, giving an appearance of the glacier “venting”, I’ve no idea to offer except “local topography”.

  387. #388 Reynir, .is
    May 12, 2010

    Don’t you hate hitting ^F4 (close frame) when you intended to hit ^R (refresh)?

  388. #389 Reynir, .is
    May 12, 2010

    Looks like we got an outbreak of evening sun on the Katla cam.

  389. #390 dubliner
    May 12, 2010

    I understand the possible uses of the Chatroom, but it lacks the historical record that this page provides. I think there has been a drop in activity on this page since the chatroom was introduced, but perhaps that is just proportional to the height of the plume?

  390. #391 Erik Klemetti
    May 12, 2010

    So thats why the traffic is down so much today – a chatroom! (OK, that might not be the only reason). Just one request – please continue to post links to interesting articles and such here. That way, I can use them in posts and we can all enjoy the fruits of your web searching.

    And I have no problem with you all posting 500, 100, 10000 comments here either – heck, it pays my bills!

  391. #392 Dylan Ray
    May 12, 2010

    @379 – I’m sure I saw that go into the plume at one stage ??? *Shrug*

    Anyhow, the plume is reaching the top of the screen on Hvolsvelli cam yet it still seems quite windy, so looks like the eruption has become a little more stronger. Perhaps?

    Erik – I’m here to stay. Not a big fan of chat rooms. 🙂

  392. #393 Reynir, .is
    May 12, 2010

    Maybe not. The chat looks as empty as my moneybag.

  393. #394 motsfo
    May 12, 2010

    Pays the Bills?
    Great! That sweeps away the guilt!
    And Thanks for putting up with us!
    i plan to leave the dance with the guy who brought me.


  394. #395 Barbara, Germany
    May 12, 2010

    The other *volcano* underwater in the golf. Video from the oil crater

  395. #396 La Kat
    May 12, 2010

    @ 387 Erik!

    This is purely to keep Erik’s coffers happy…

    A little volcano trivia for you all:

    You know all the fun we’ve had from reading Google’s translation of icelandic words for eruptions etc (i.e. “cocktails” on the slopes of a volcano and “fizzy drinks”!), well, the word for volcano in Syrian Arabic is apparently: “berkaan”! Cheers!!

  396. #397 Dagmar
    May 12, 2010

    Hi Erik and all

    The cloud seems very high and big now

  397. #398 ukjas
    May 12, 2010

    I am having a lot of trouble getting on in here today

  398. #399 Kyle
    May 12, 2010

    There is a rather large steam ploom just to the left of the main ash plume, you can just see the top of it over the clouds.

  399. #400 birdseyeUSA
    May 12, 2010

    Re: absences…think everyone was just taking a fog/rain break – as Renato said (much) earlier, ” Just plain, annoying, rain that keep us from glazing at fireworks… ‘” – our eyeballs and brains are glazing over….but – tonite we’ll all be ^R, and ready for more Science, right?

  400. #401 Dagmar
    May 12, 2010

    Whats that little light left to the plume?

  401. #402 Dan, Florida
    May 12, 2010

    No chat for me, I’m here. That way I can read back. I think a lot of us, myself included, just sit quietly unless someone brings something up, or something appears to be happening. And maybe haiku’s have run their course too. LOL

    BTW, my wife took some of these haiku’s and limerick’s to her school where she happened to be teaching haiku to her 3rd grade class. Good timing. 🙂

  402. #403 beedragon Canada
    May 12, 2010

    I’m still here 🙂 I haven’t posted much yesterday or today because it’s been very busy at work and I have to arm wrestle my family for pc time at night!

    I hope that the clouds clear so we can see some fireworks tonight!

  403. #404 thor
    May 12, 2010

    yep,. 🙂 we are so ready for more science,..

    someone tell me, doesnt the ash column seem thicker and wider than it did just a few days ago?
    and whats with the vhalanuk cam, was up earlier and poof gone again,..
    and I am seeing the same little plume kyle,.
    and now for another question.. ashplumes can create weather right like fex thunderstorms..?

  404. #405 Raving
    May 12, 2010

    Hvolsvellian magic mushroom

  405. #406 Erik Klemetti
    May 12, 2010

    Oh, I definitely wasn’t trying to guilt anyone into staying – but the discussion over the last few months here has been amazing – even if it was overlapping with the end of the semester.

    Anyway, new (non-Iceland) post if you want to wander there. I’ll have a new Iceland post tomorrow now that finals are done.

  406. #407 Shelly
    May 12, 2010

    I’m not a big fan of chatrooms either so this place will do me very nicely.. 🙂

    #379 I saw that too.. it appeared to fly in and out of the plume quite a few times..???

  407. #408 dubliner
    May 12, 2010

    I see that Aer Lingus (Irish airline) and others are screaming to have a relaxation of the rules regarding flights near ash clouds.

    Today the maps of the ash cloud show no connection with the volcano, even though the plume is visible on the cam, and appears quite high.

    I’d be unhappy to be flying any time soon. I just don’t trust those in high positions to make the right decisions when billions are at stake.

  408. #409 beedragon Canada
    May 12, 2010

    I’ve now watched a few times, the fabulous aerial video posted yesterday. I think I spotted the cinder cone which had been previously discussed. If it’s where I think it is, it seems to be somewhat precariously placed at the top of Gigjokull. Is there a chance that the volcano could blow out the side of this cone? If so, what would the consequences be?

  409. #410 Timo
    May 12, 2010

    #374 I pick one of pic of voda (see the left side on it).
    I still have a stupid question – where are all the meltwarer etc coming? Not from the 1. erruption and not from current? Can anyone confirm where it is coming??

  410. #411 Renato I Silveira
    May 12, 2010

    #396 @BirdseyeUSA: Hehe! Hey there! I think I meant “gazing” but you just made it sound so poetic that I’ll get the copyright! But still think there’s much to be seen over the clouds from the Lady.

  411. #412 beedragon Canada
    May 12, 2010

    Another question: I just tried opening the Valahnuk cam (no luck), but, in the map at the bottom of the screen they have the camera pointing at Steinholtjokull. Has it always been facing here, or is Mila placing the cam for future possibilities?

  412. #413 Reynir, .is
    May 12, 2010

    Feh. Chats are for folk whose attention span ends at the Top-Of-Screen.

    Aside: Japan Times thinks Sakura-jima will make a record number of eruptions this year, maybe over 1000.

  413. #414 Reynir, .is
    May 12, 2010

    #408: It was placed to monitor Fimmvörðuháls while the eruption was there, but with all roads in the area closed or impassable, maintenance is likely impossible – anyway, Míla’s delisted it.

  414. #415 beedragon Canada
    May 12, 2010

    @Reynir Mila still has Valahnuk listed here:

  415. #416 Henrik
    May 12, 2010

    @Boris (#232) Re VEI. It’s not a very reliable scale is it since the time factor isn’t consistently taken into account? Already, Wikipedia lists this eruption as the example of a VEI 4 – – even though the plume has barely grazed the lower limit of 10km and most of the time actually been in the high VEI 2 (1-5km) to low VEI 3 (3-15km) range. Wouldn’t it be fair to say that interpreting the E of VEI as Eruptive instead of Explosive is more accurate, especially when it comes to eruptions in the past?

    Let’s assume that a thousand years from now, our current records have been lost and someone investigates the eruptive history of Eyjafjallajökull. Using radioisotopes and tephrochronology, the eruption is dated to 2015 +/-10 years. The amount erupted is calculated as 0.58 +/-0.10 cu km. The eruption is then assigned a VEI 4, but this figure is thought much too low by some authorities based on the fact that ash conclusively proven to come from it have been found as far away as Norway, the UK and Spain.

    In astronomy, supernovae are classified as type I-V with subgroups being lettered a, b etc which gives astronomers a pretty good descriptive tool. Looking at such a system, the VEI could be retained as a measure of the total amount of DRE emitted and a Roman numeral indicating time in which, say, 67% of the DRE was ejected (I – inside 36 hours, II – up to a week, III – up to six weeks, IV – up to 18 months, V – longer than 18 months). A “t”(troposheric) or “s” (stratospheric) could be added to indicate the maximum height of the plume if so desired. With such a system, the current Eyjafjalla erution could be classified as VEI 4(IV)t. As a comparison, the 79AD Vesuvius eruption would be VEI 5(I)s (?) and Sakurajima 1953-present VEI 5(V)t (?), clearly illustrating the difference in explosivity between them.

    Sorry for the ramble, but to me the current VEI seems totally inadequate as a communicator of explosivity of volcanic eruptions. Especially when explaining to the uninitiated such as decision makers or the general public.

  416. #417 Reynir, .is
    May 12, 2010

    #406: Most of what looks like meltwater on that picture is mud. There is a trickle of water, probably from the east side of the valley. The rewas a stream of water from the west side today, but I suspect that was mainly rainwater.

  417. #418 Reynir, .is
    May 12, 2010

    #411: Nope. That cam is in the village Hvolsvöllur.

  418. #419 beedragon Canada
    May 12, 2010


    Sorry, you misunderstood me. The link to the Valahnuk cam is still listed in the sidebar on the Hvolsvell webcam page that I linked to.

  419. #420 Reynir, .is
    May 12, 2010

    I’ve checked both the Icelandic and the English pages for the Hvolsvöllur cam. The Valahnúkur link is definitely gone.

  420. #421 Henrik
    May 12, 2010

    #412 Sorry, missed Kilauea, Reunion etc. Add an “E” – Kilauea 1983-present VEI 5(V)E.

  421. #422 Fireman
    May 12, 2010

    @ beedragon 415 – no it isn’t, if you refresh the page you’ll see the link is gone.

  422. #423 Renato I Silveira
    May 12, 2010

    I was just “wikipediing” on volcanoes and picked this from Stromboli on the Mediterranean: “For at least the last 20,000 years, the same pattern of eruption has been maintained”… just wondering if something close to that would be possible for a certain volcano in Iceland. How many threads and chat rooms it would take? If so, Dr. Klementti, you wouldn’t have to worry about the future for generations to come… 🙂

  423. #424 Henrik, Swe
    May 12, 2010

    Btw. The quakes near Grímsey in the Tjörnes Fracture Zone are getting shallow according to the preliminary report – three of the latest at 1.1 km depth.

  424. #425 Dylan Ray
    May 12, 2010

    @412 – Henrik, I like it. That formula or something similar sounds like it could work better than the current VEI scale.

  425. #426 Timo
    May 12, 2010

    #413 Thanks Reynir, I’ve probably looked too much pics today and I think (or see threats too much). Let see more care the east side however. Hope everything is (or looks) better tomorrow:)

  426. #427 Vince
    May 12, 2010

    #412 @Henrik

    I agree with you. And the Wikipedia VEI-4 information comes from a trusted source (Smithsonian Institution) but goes back to April 22, so that information maybe worth little now:

    Wikipedia source citation:

    «A firm number won’t be assigned for some time, but so far, about 110 million cubic meters of tephra have been ejected during this eruption, and the plume has gone about nine kilometers into the air, so that’s a VEI of 4»

  427. #428 thor
    May 12, 2010

    the Valahnúk cam it`s gone yup, but I swear i was up earlier today.
    Any who, whats with the clouds?? grr. please be gone..

    and Now something really of topic,..
    If someone had the equipment, could someone make theyr own Volcano ,lets say if they drilled or mined deep enough?
    I have been thinking of this since many mines reach pretty deep and some mines are pretty hot.
    how far can we drill and blast before things could turn ugly?
    and I have heard about a manmade volcano of mud?

  428. #429 Randall Nix
    May 12, 2010

    Erik I wouldn’t think about going to a chat instead of here…If I were to go to a chat then I couldn’t upset you or Boris….sorry but that would just take all of the fun out it for me;)

  429. #430 Reynir, .is
    May 12, 2010

    #424: The mud ‘volcano’ is in Indonesia, I think.

  430. #432 thor
    May 12, 2010

    yes it is, and that is a man made event,thanks Reynir but could a thing like that happen with lava?..

  431. #433 Henrik
    May 12, 2010

    Thank you for your support Dylan, Vince! What really raised my hackles was that final VEI obviously is assigned by a committé – the most inefficient, inaccurate and inept of all human decision-making processes.

    In my opinion, where possible, John and Jane Doe should be able to evaluate the information after a minimum of tuition and come up with “the correct answer”. That way, the maximum number of people will be informed which makes it easier for everyone to communicate efficiently, especially in a crisis.

  432. #434 Reynir, .is
    May 12, 2010

    On the Katla cam: A cloud resembling a horsehead or a chess knight.

  433. #435 Reynir, .is
    May 12, 2010

    Unfortunately I failed to capture it, due to lack of cap software.

  434. #436 birdseyeUSA
    May 12, 2010

    @406Timo glad Reynir answered -I don’t know if you have looked back through the vodphone Picasa albums, but if you go back to mid-April, you will see LOTS of water – now there is almost nothing, by comparison, so nobody gets excited – yet!

  435. #437 Nancy, Netherlands
    May 12, 2010

    #416 #418 #424 When you use the direct link the page is stil there.

  436. #438 Ruby
    May 12, 2010

    No chat rooms for me either. I’m trying to read through all the posts to see what I’ve missed today as I haven’t had much time to get on:)

  437. #439 Reynir, .is
    May 12, 2010

    #433: It’ll probably be reinserted into the main site once the camera has been repaired – whenever that happens.

    A few moments ago (ca. 23:35 UT) I just managed to spot the plume through a cloud gap on the Hvolsvöllur camera. Didn’t look like it had lowered a pixel.

  438. #440 Timo
    May 12, 2010

    Was it cloud? It goes down unlike the others in the sky…

  439. #441 Fireman
    May 12, 2010

    @ Nancy 433: Yes it is, but it’s an orphaned page not linked from anywhere at the moment – which was the original point.

  440. #442 Kyle
    May 12, 2010

    Every page relating to the webcams on Mila’s site has the link tot he Vala cam for me, and yes i have cleared my cache.

  441. #443 Reynir, .is
    May 12, 2010

    I can’t say for certain that the cloud from mid-image to the right edge is the plume, but it looks like the right altitude.

  442. #444 Alison, UK
    May 12, 2010

    @420 Henrik, I’ve been watching that, do you think there is something going to happen up there?

  443. #445 Jón Frímann
    May 12, 2010

    New depth record for a earthquake from Eyjafjallajökull. But at 00:37 11.05.2010 there was a earthquake with the depth of 32.9km, the size was ML1.9.

    This is the deepest earthquake so far that I have seen.

  444. #446 beedragon Canada
    May 12, 2010

    @Jón I also see that they upgraded one of the earthquakes to a 3.0 (the bottom one on the table).

  445. #447 birdseyeUSA
    May 12, 2010

    @Jón Frímann 441 Earlier today Lurking 331 was asking if those quakes are measured from sea level or from ground-on-which-the-meter-is-placed…don’t know that he got an answer…could you answer here please? I’m curious, but he is working on a problem..

  446. #448 Kathryn, Australia
    May 12, 2010

    This is certainly more informative than any chat room could be – I’m staying. And as others have commented, the difference in time zone makes chat track-backs impossible. I’ve just caught up on all comments that have come in over our Australian night and, as I don’t have to work today other than to do ‘woman’s work’ :-), I’m ready for a day of ‘volcano watch’.
    BTW…. I’m also ‘in’ for any planned Iceland field-trip!

  447. #449 beedragon Canada
    May 12, 2010

    @birdseyeUSA, I don’t know if this answers the question or not, but from the Iceland Met office seismicity page:

    Earthquake table
    The table displays the map and graph data in tabulated form. The first two columns denote the date and GMT time of the earthquake, respectively. Columns 3 and 4 detail the location of the epicentre in decimal units of latitude and longitude. Columns 5 and 6 approximate the focal depth (the distance from the hypocenter to the epicentre) and the magnitude of the earthquake, respectively. Column 7 contains a measure of earthquake ‘quality’, based on several calculated parameters. The higher the quality value, the more accurate the positioning of the epicentre. Lastly, column 8 describes the location of the epicentre in relation to a nearby landmark.

  448. #450 birdseyeUSA
    May 12, 2010

    @beedragon 445 – which sent me off looking up several other things, 😉 but I guess the answer is that the standard is ‘from sea level.’ Thanks, I had missed the EQ page more detailed info (meaning I probably didn’t go looking for it since it’s not a strong poinit! ; ) )
    I can see that the proposed trip is going to have to include a reading list ahead of time!

  449. #451 beedragon Canada
    May 12, 2010

    I just managed to catch a couple of minutes on the Thorolfsfell cam where I was able to see a little bit of Strombolian activity between the clouds. So, she’s still going on without us 🙂

    (I’m not trying to monopolize the board, just doing my bit to get Erik up to 500 posts today :)))

  450. #452 Dan, Florida
    May 12, 2010

    @731 Reynir To capture go full screen then print screen. Then paste into paint program, as long as you’re using Windows. If using MAC then:
    # Hold down Apple key ⌘ + Shift + 3 and release all
    # then use your mouse to click on the screen
    # Done. You will see a picture file in at your desktop. That’s the screen capture picture.

  451. #453 Peter Cobbold
    May 12, 2010

    @ Birdseye 328 Try Izzy Tours, Birmingham UK. They specialise in geologically focussed groups for schools univs.

  452. #454 birdseyeUSA
    May 12, 2010

    @448…or for people on Mac, you can refine the process and do a targeted capture by using Apple key + Shift + 4 and click/drag the crosshairs – release takes the picture (and after a spectacular night, thumb starts to quiver as you hold down ‘click’ until the right moment…)

  453. #455 Shelly
    May 12, 2010

    Nice show on Thoro cam between the clouds.. It may be a trick of the light but do I see a dark plume rising from the bottom of the LHS of the glacier.. Flur cam quite interesting too.. Lower hot spot sure has grown today..

  454. #456 birdseyeUSA
    May 12, 2010

    @Peter Cobbold – ME??? nuh uh, no experience in that line,(willing to help) but it’s a thought for some Univ. person or someone with a relative in the tour business,Iceland or elsewhere, maybe…it was just an idea…and I was thinking there ought to be some Icelanders involved…all pie in the sky on my part because there are so many interested people here at Chez Erik that it seems a shame not to have a followthrough.

  455. #457 Dan, Florida
    May 12, 2010

    @451 Shelly That area always looks like that. I think it’s part of the glacier tongue (could be wrong there though). Look back at the Picasa pictures and you can see it in various lighting.

  456. #458 Shelly
    May 12, 2010

    Dan, just a while back I saw a bright light down there and thought OMG! Lava has broken through then saw the bright light split in two and drive away.. I guess there were two Jeeps down there tonight. lol

  457. #459 Mary-Lou
    May 12, 2010

    I’m a lurker, love to read and learn. Have been away for about 4 hours and just came to read up on the latest news. I just viewed the Þórólfsfelli cam……… another volcano erupting in the background? or that the April earth fissure that had opened up….and is now blowing her bowels again?

  458. #460 shelly
    May 12, 2010

    lightening in plume on Thoro cam..

  459. #461 Janet, Tx
    May 12, 2010

    Just for grins :o) Our favorite volcano has officially made it to the “Real UFOs” site. LOL! I was searching on google for volcano videos and found this.

  460. #462 chasm uk
    May 12, 2010

    Nice lightning now.
    I also saw the two jeeps. must have been in the lake bed.

  461. #463 Dan, Florida
    May 12, 2010

    @455 Mary-Lou It’s erupting in basically the same place as before. Look back at some off the pictures on the Picasa site and you’ll see what I mean.
    Nice occasional fireworks. I keep missing the lightning, but I am watching two vehicles driving down the river bed right now (or ET).

    For any new people, click on my name and it will take you to where I have posted some links.

  462. #464 Timo
    May 12, 2010

    #432 birdseyeUSA,Reynir I have checked all the picasa pics so far they where published on the site.
    I have noticed that the melting has been increased from the first pic(16.4).

    Only I like to know: Is the mud/ash flow causing to the left (E) by Eyja current crater/erruption.
    I don’t belive that Fimmvörðuháls cause any that kind of efects any more?

    The meltwater runaway would be easy to figure of increase of rivers flow on pics but the mud/ash is more difficult.

    So do EF cause thease flows also to the left jökull (I dont’n know that one’s jökull’s name ) or what is the reason of the happening. I know there is an other crater between current and the started eruption.

    I think all my todays “research” was caused that I was looking this time-lapsed video over and over and I was hang-upped of it…

  463. #465 Kyle
    May 12, 2010

    ploom on the Hvol cam is now out the top of the frame.

  464. #466 M. Randolph Kruger
    May 12, 2010

    For the FLIR watchers. I havent been looking at that lately because I have been busy at the airport here in Mempho…. But, is it just me or are the hills suddenly a lot warmer over all?

    I had done a screen capture like three days ago when this thing was getting burpy. And then I looked tonight, Jeeeez that thing looks warmer. It could be ash deposits, but its on the sides and not so much on the upper reaches which has been and is already warm.

    Boris, Randall, Jon, Erik… Anyone noted this besides me?

  465. #467 Kathryn, Australia
    May 12, 2010

    Very active at the moment, but I doubt that the occupants of the jeep/s have the excellent view that we have. Wonder what they are checking/looking for….

  466. #468 birdseye
    May 12, 2010

    @Timo 459 -aha- NOW I see what you were looking at – it’s not mud, it is the face of the glacier receiving the sun over a time-lapse – but it certainly does look like a giant mud flow in that clip! The camera is not very good resolution,so things look less sharp than they might (or rather, the resolution is OK but the is a technical problem in sending.) So – all is OK – just a somewhat shiny skirt on the lady.

  467. #469 Mary-Lou Canada
    May 12, 2010

    Thank-you Dan, nice list of links to explore. Excuse my premature post. The low lying clouds gave me the illusion that something new and very big was erupting, but further back in the distance. I guess this quick spontaneous post of mine has shown me something interesting, and that is just how excited I am to be viewing and learning hear on your blog. That being said, it’s back lurking!

  468. #470 Randall Nix
    May 12, 2010

    M. Randolph Kruger I don’t really know anything about the FLIR…It just looks like something out of my wild misspent college days….Actually looking at it right now makes me want to put on the Doors and turn it up really loud.

  469. #471 Dan, Florida
    May 12, 2010

    @464 Mary-Lou I’ve been watching this thing for a while now, like many others. It’s kind of like watching hurricanes, which I do closely when they hit the Gulf of Mexico. Every little jog, turn, increase, etc gets scrutinized on the weather blog where my links are posted. Same thing can happen with the volcano, but that’s half the fun. 🙂 Tricks of light, clouds seemingly appearing out of nowhere, lights appearing suddenly (our own UFO), make it fun to try figuring out what’s going on. Yea, I’m hooked.

  470. #472 birdseyeUSA
    May 12, 2010

    @beedragon445- did my homework, went to the earthquakes page, see that there ARE tables but can’t get to them…??? All I can see is the map and time/magnitude chart, & I’m feeling blind & stupid, but can’t find a table link…
    @M.Randolph Kruger 461, the FLIR is confusing because it’s always relative to what it’s seeing right in the moment, there are no absolute color values or reference points for colors other than relative values in the given screen at a given time – it’s just a tool for looking for the warmest place, and in this case the moraines hold the heat of the day longer, but those colors are only the ‘color of the day.’ At least that’s how I understand it…

  471. #473 Dan, Florida
    May 12, 2010

    @467 birdseye (might want to change your name) LOL

    Right above the map are two tabs map and table. Or go here:

  472. #474 Timo
    May 12, 2010

    #463 Thanks birdseye, I run that video a lot and then I went take look the picasa pics to closer checking.
    It’s wery difficult to examine pic when you enlarge wiew 100->400% and I was also thinkin that the pics are fooling me:(
    This is a great blog and I’m hooked it. Very sory for false information!!!
    More eyes are better when they sleep little rest (local 05:00) and should last be go to bed before the sun rise!!

  473. #475 Dan, Florida
    May 12, 2010

    Mila cams down. Mulakot only one I can see right now. Plume above the clouds.

  474. #476 birdseyeUSA
    May 12, 2010

    @Dan 468 – bangs head on nearest hard object, crawls into nearest hole….

  475. #477 Randall Nix
    May 12, 2010

    I’m looking at the Hvolsvelli cam….and it looks like someone needs to go wake up Erik and Boris;)

  476. #478 Dan, Florida
    May 12, 2010

    Plume altitude is up there with first light.

  477. #479 Kathryn, Australia
    May 12, 2010

    Mila cams are back for me. And what a show! Glad I have the day off….coffee in hand, slippers on feet…..where are you, Frito? I have cream….bring cookies 🙂

  478. #480 Randall Nix
    May 12, 2010

    Somebody grab a screen shot if you can.

  479. #481 Chris
    May 12, 2010

    Big ash column on the Hvolsvelli cam. Looks explosive, see occasional lightning flashes in the images. Impressive!

  480. #482 Dan, Florida
    May 12, 2010

    May be an all nighter for me if this keeps up. 🙂
    Too slow to catch the lightning though. But great show, couple of big ones.

  481. #483 Passerby
    May 12, 2010

    Vertical tremor plots on the slow upswing. Plume column mixing height appears to be rising.

  482. #484 StarBP
    May 12, 2010

    Plume height, anyone?

  483. #485 beedragon Canada
    May 12, 2010

    I managed to see one small lightning flash and a few eruptions. It will be interesting to see what the lava channel looks like after the mist/clouds disappear – it sure is steaming a lot!

  484. #486 Timo
    May 12, 2010

    WOW what she are now going to do! Great webcam shots, is she moving to east?!! hot hot is coming…

  485. #487 Robert Bordonaro, Arlington, TX, USA
    May 12, 2010

    WOW. “E” is putting on an AWESOME show. Seen several lightning flashes, lots of magma bombs, just beautiful :O)

  486. #488 StarBP
    May 12, 2010

    Could Hvolsvelli please zoom out a bit, or aim the camera a bit more up, or both? The plume’s getting too high to see.

  487. #489 StarBP
    May 12, 2010

    @483 StarBP: I said that right before Hvolsvelli disconnected… maybe they’re doing what I asked? (wishful thinking, I know)

  488. #490 beedragon Canada
    May 12, 2010

    Helen will be happy to see that there is a change to the top of ‘her’ arch 🙂 Big dark split there now, where there was a much smaller bird-shaped one this morning.

  489. #491 StarBP
    May 12, 2010

    Hvolsvelli back up… no apparent change in aim

  490. #492 Dan, Florida
    May 12, 2010

    @486 StarBP I was just about to blame you for the cam going down. 😉

  491. #493 beedragon Canada
    May 12, 2010

    re. my post 485 I guess I was psyched out by mud … the black crow is still there.

  492. #494 Timo
    May 13, 2010

    It seems that we have now at least second cylinder to go!

  493. #495 Holger, N California
    May 13, 2010

    Interesting, the steam plume that’s emanating from the Gígjökull glacier is blowing into a different direction than the ash plume from the main eruption. Clearly, different wind directions at different altitudes.

    Too bad I missed the night show (lightning and lava bombs), but work didn’t allow many distractions today…

  494. #496 PeakVT
    May 13, 2010

    Reykjavik radar says the plume is about 5.2km high.

  495. #497 Robert bordonaro, Arlington,TX. USA
    May 13, 2010

    Or about 16,500 feet tall. Sure seems taller than that!

  496. #498 Randall Nix
    May 13, 2010

    I would have guessed much higher than that.

  497. #499 Frito Lay
    May 13, 2010

    I brought the cookies
    Kathryn’s coffee is great
    Fuzzy pink slippers


  498. #500 Frito Lay
    May 13, 2010

    Holy Vodafone!

    And Helen’s arch is still there!

  499. #501 Kultsi, Askola, FI
    May 13, 2010

    @#491 #492 I watched the Keflavik radar pic yesterday when the front was rolling in. Very little of the pic resembled the conditions on the ground: the radar said clear skies, while webcams showed heavy clouds. So from now on, I take those readings with a pinch of salt.

  500. #502 Tom
    May 13, 2010

    NB: I’m not scientist nor have I played one on TV. Still, I’ve posted some images I shot last week while visiting – some are pretty dramatic night shots and two clearly show the lava glowing inside the glacier on May 9.

  501. #503 Frito Lay
    May 13, 2010

    @Tom ~ Those are some fantastic shots!

  502. #504 Dan, Florida
    May 13, 2010

    Awesome display tonight but I’ve got to call it a night. If anyone is watching still, look at Hvolsvelli cam. Looks like white drifting up with the plume. Steam mixed in maybe? Probably just the lighting and my weary eyes.

    Last thing, this is the third day I have noticed lightning just as dawn approaches. Doesn’t seem to show any more on the web page after sun comes up. Interesting!

  503. #505 Frito Lay
    May 13, 2010

    Someone please tell me that’s not a pyroclastic flow going down the right flank on Hvols cam …

  504. #506 Holger, N California
    May 13, 2010

    @Dan #499 – good night, dream of ash plume and lava flows…

    @Frito #500 – I think those are just dense ash clouds sinking to the ground. Still unpleasant to be in, but not as dangerous as pyroclastic flows (but that’s just my uninformed opinion).

    @Tom #497 – indeed great pictures. Makes me envious, but my next trips are booked for Germany and Austria, not Iceland. With a bit of luck I may get a few of Iceland from 30,000 feet. Unless, of course, my flights get canceled due to ash….

  505. #507 George
    May 13, 2010

    Wow, she is really pumping out the ash today!

  506. #508 Frito Lay
    May 13, 2010

    @Holger #501 – I think you’re right. It looked strange when it first started rolling down. Our Lady is never boring, that’s for sure. She gives us something new to see each day.

  507. #509 Holger, N California
    May 13, 2010

    @George #502

    Yes, she’s quite active today. That doesn’t bode well for European air traffic during the next few days…

  508. #510 Holger, N California
    May 13, 2010

    @Frito #503

    One of these days she really is going to unleash some pyroclastic flows, just to prove she can. We can only hope that no scientist and other daredevils (Gummi etc.) will be close by to ‘witness’ the event first hand…

  509. #511 Frito Lay
    May 13, 2010

    @ Holger ~ I shudder at the thought. We’ve had such great live and near-real time coverage of this volcano so we’re pretty lucky but as beautiful and powerful as she is, she could be a killer. Let’s hope everyone (pilots and our own Gummi Bear) stay safe.

  510. #512 bea
    May 13, 2010

    Is it only my impression or has the eruption intensified while I was sleeping? Especially looking at the FLIR cam..

  511. #513 Frito Lay
    May 13, 2010

    @Bea It’s been about the same for the past two hours or so. I’m not sure what it was like before that, but I think it was stronger a few hours earlier judging by the comments posted here.

  512. #514 bea
    May 13, 2010

    @Frido seems in this case I missed quite a show as I stopped watching yesterday evening when clouds came up… Someone made some screenshots?

  513. #515 Jón Frímann
    May 13, 2010

    @bea, The correct answer is that it fluctuates on hour to hour bases. Sometimes even more often then that.

    But currently there are no signs of the eruption ending.

  514. #516 Kris B
    May 13, 2010

    Scientists watching ‘shooting rocks’ from Eyjafjalajökull’s Godasteinn on this video:

  515. #517 Philipp - Austria
    May 13, 2010

    ok, I posted quite a few time-lapse animations, but I think I am going to stop after seeing this one:

    this is probably the best time-lapse I ever saw.

    Philipp (astrograph)

  516. #518 Ethan, Seattle WA
    May 13, 2010

    Does anyone know anything about the geology of the little basin at the terminus of Gígjökull? I ask because I was just looking at the zoomed-in Vodafone image, and it suddenly leapt out at me as looking an awful lot like an eroded phreatic crater. It’s sitting on the alluvial plane of the range. Or maybe more this setting is better described as part alluvial fan, part terminal moraine. In any case, those walls just have the right look in that picture 🙂

  517. #519 Evelyn Swe
    May 13, 2010

    Check Vodafone camera. Lava flow to the right middle of pic.

  518. #520 Dagmar
    May 13, 2010

    @514 513 I am seeing lava there on the vodacam

  519. #521 Dee
    May 13, 2010

    Not lava flow, light reflection on the camera lens.

  520. #522 Dee
    May 13, 2010

    I thought it was lava at first, but it is oval in shape and appears on pics a few days back light is reflecting on something on the lens, a bit like raindrops.

  521. #523 Birgit, Austria
    May 13, 2010

    @Philipp. Please dont stop creating your Timelapses. I really enjoy them and it gives me an oppurtunity to watch the nightly lightshow which i always miss, cause i need to sleep occasionally ;). And when i read up on all the comments after getting home from work, and there was something like… lightning or whatever, i always think, shame i missed it but tomorrow i can check it on Philipps Video.

  522. #524 Bas v D
    May 13, 2010

    Is it just me, or are all the Mila cams down?

  523. #525 Kultsi, Askola, FI
    May 13, 2010

    @512 Philipp, I agree it’s an impressive time lapse video – but then, clearly, they’ve had more raw material to work with, and the time lapse was just one part of the total.

  524. #526 Ruby
    May 13, 2010

    @Phillip I totally agree with Birgit please do not stop!

  525. #527 suw
    May 13, 2010

    @ Philipp (astrograph) #512 Please don’t give up doing your time lapses! I find them really very useful to give me a better idea of what has happened each day. It’s so easy to forget how the volcano used to look!

    Actually, there’s an idea – how about a big long timelapse that is all your existing timelapses stitched together into one? That would be very interesting viewing!

  526. #528 Ruby
    May 13, 2010

    Plume on Hvols cam just got bigger again, above screen now

  527. #529 Birgit, Austria
    May 13, 2010

    There is nothing special on the helicorders right now, no bigger tremor, nothing special with the earthquakes, and still lady Eyja is blowing like there would be no tomorow.

  528. #530 Dagmar
    May 13, 2010

    Thanks Dee!

    BBC docudrama Yellowstone

  529. #531 Henrik, Swe
    May 13, 2010

    @Alison (#440), I don’t know. Boris Behncke says that the Tjörnes Fracture Zone is like the San Andreas fault, so a volcanic origin is unlikely. However, there are underwater volcanoes reported or suspected, so volcanism can not be ruled out. Since I found this site (late Jan) there have been several localised swarms in the TFZ but none as sustained, intense nor going as shallow as this one. Dr Behncke’s word is good enough for me, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there were news of under-water volcanism north of Iceland. This ties in with the sustained discussion we’ve had with Peter Cobbold, Bruce Stout, Passerby & others about unusual seismicity all across Iceland, seismic patterns and regular oscillations, bolus propagation etc.

  530. #532 Henrik
    May 13, 2010

    Oh frabjous joy, the steam indicates that the lava flow has recommenced melting the glacier at a noble if gentle rate. “Out, damn’d spot! out, I say!”

  531. #533 Lavendel, Switzerland
    May 13, 2010

    #527, Henrik: definitely more steam!

    I’m glad you all stayed on the blog (and not the chat) so I could read back and see all those exciting things I missed while sleeping ( a pity that one needs that in times like these…)

    #448,Dan #450 birdseye : thanks for the screenshotexplanation on a Mac! Really helpfull.

    The diskussion on the VEI skala reminds me of the diskussion with hurricane-scales. There also is a need to “fine-tune” the scale so it is more clear. The subdevision that is proposed semms very logical and helpfull to me.
    ( but I’m a amateur).

  532. #534 Mr. Moho
    May 13, 2010

    By the way, I noticed that the “arch” formation has been slowly but constantly melting over the past two weeks. Have a look at these photos in sequence:

  533. #535 Lavendel, Switzerland
    May 13, 2010

    Oh, and probably a sure sign that I’m addicted: in my dreans tonight I had a furious diskussion with someone about the right pronunciation of “Eyafjallajökull”. *g*

  534. #536 David Calvo
    May 13, 2010

    Ash column quite larger than yesterday

  535. #537 thor
    May 13, 2010

    haha, Lavendel.. Eyjafjatlajökutl is the right way to say it, or just use the name of the mountain, Eyjafjäll

  536. #538 Alison, UK
    May 13, 2010

    #526 Thanks Henrik, I’ll keep watching it.

  537. #539 Henrik, Swe
    May 13, 2010

    @Lavendel (#528) “The subdevision that is proposed semms very logical and helpfull to me but I’m a amateur.”

    That’s just the point, it should be! A scale understandable only by professionals serves only one purpose – to impress everyone else with their learning and importance. A useful scale is readily understood by anyone with a modicum of education after a few minutes of reading or instruction.

    Mr Moho, well spotted! Looking at it over the past few days I thought “Hasn’t the arch shrunk and the hole above it, didn’t it use to be round?” and then quickly shrugged it off as imagination.

  538. #540 beedragon Canada
    May 13, 2010

    Erik has put up a new post. Time to move over there?

  539. #541 birdseyeUSA
    May 13, 2010

    Good morning beedragon, I don’t see an Eyja post yet, just the general one that he put up yesterday..he usually announces it here & said there’d be a new Eyja one today – looks like maybe we’ll be out of luck over the weekend, maybe the cams will be ‘ashed out..’

  540. #542 Henrik, Swe
    May 13, 2010

    Erm… don’t think so as the new topic doesn’t contain the parameters “Eyjafjallajökull • Eyjafjöll • Iceland • Katla •” Also, I think there are people from other countries who would appreciate an “Eyjafjallajökull-free topic” so they have a chance to discuss volcanoes of greater interest to them. After more than three months of “Iceland special issues” only, I’d say we stay here out of courtesy to them. 😉

  541. #543 Jayster
    May 13, 2010

    @512 – truely an amazing viedo! Great effects.

  542. #544 Henrik, Swe
    May 13, 2010

    @David Calvo (#531), it certainly attains a greater altitude today, but I am not surprised with the generous supply of dihydrogen oxide available in the form of saturated clouds as evidenced by the new coat of snow.

    (You must think me a boring old fa*t going on about how what seems to be an obvious and interesting increase in eruptive power is just due to the availability of water.)

  543. #545 beedragon Canada
    May 13, 2010

    @birdseye & Henrik Oops … I’ll blame that on not having had my coffee yet!

    Carry on, carry on 🙂

  544. #546 Henrik, Swe
    May 13, 2010

    Here Sir, a nice Blue Mountain one for you. 😉

  545. #547 d9tRotterdam
    May 13, 2010

    Eyjafjallajökull volcano eruption 12 May 2010 vodafone webcam time lapse

    ps moderator, this link is also in moderation queue on the newest (non-E) thread, please delete it for me, sorry for error!

  546. #548 Koen v G
    May 13, 2010

    #412 Henrik,

    I’m afraid I’ll have to correct you on the supernova scale. In fact there is no such thing as a scale defined to classify supernovae by intensity or effects. The classification is based on spectral properties of the light emitted. This gives us Type I and Type II supernovae. Type I have no signatures of hydrogen (the Balmer series) in their spectrum, Type II have. The classification then goes on to differentiate.

    Type I is divided in a, b and c, again on spectral properties. Ia got some ionized silicon, Ib has non ionized helium and Ic doesn’t show helium strongly or not at all. Even the progenitor stars are not common in Type I supernovae. a Type Ia is caused by a white dwarf (basically left over cores of sun-like stars – which aren’t heavy enough to go supernova on their own) accreting matter from a companion star and blowing itself apart when it becomes too heavy to stay stable. Type Ib and Ic are core collapse supernovae of heavy stars which have blown away their outer layers at the end of their lives (google Wolf-Rayet stars if you want to know more).

    Type II is divided in P and L classes, unlike Type I not on spectrum but light curve. The P stands for plateau, which means that after fading from peak brightness, it will slow it’s fading rate dramatically compared to the L type, which fades away linearly (L). Both stem also from core collapse by a heavy star, but the star (partly) retained it’s outer H layer.

    For Type Ia brightness only varies little between supernovae, as the star needs to pass the Chandrasekhar limit to detonate. Hence their use to measure distance across the universe. The core collapse supernovae vary a lot more because of variations in mass and asymmetry in the explosion.

    Sorry for getting slightly off-topic, but the amateur astronomer in me got carried away…

  547. #549 Misplaced Brit
    May 13, 2010

    @ 512.

    That was a great video, but I’ve seen some of your time lapses, and like the others have said, don’t stop doing them!!

    In reference to the video you linked to, I found another one on that same website, showing the lava eruption of Eyjafjallajökull that I found interesting, with some wonderful close up shots too! (Still can’t believe I have to copy/paste the name of this volcano lol. There’s no way I’d get it anywhere near right otherwise!)

  548. #550 birdseyeUSA
    May 13, 2010
  549. #551 birdseyeUSA
    May 13, 2010

    ..and for your listening pleasure (and pronunciation practice…)
    Interesting that I think (not sure) that the Mt. is a ‘he..’ AnnaReykjavik or anyone ? True?

  550. #552 Reynir, .is
    May 13, 2010

    #546: Yes, the word ‘jökull’ is masculine.

  551. #553 Reynir, .is
    May 13, 2010

    Hmm… the cameras on Þórólfsfell are finally getting a glimpse of the plume’s root.

  552. #554 Reynir, .is
    May 13, 2010

    #448: Done the PrintScreen-and-crop often enough (it’s a WinXP box) to find it routine. Looks like WMP does some DirectX stuff that evades capture that way, so trying to get snaps off Katla currently falls under Epic Fail.

  553. #555 motsfo
    May 13, 2010

    @Philipp, Another vote for You to continue the timelapse.
    His was verywell done but i found it frustrating and a little non informative. Yours gives us more information and a better feel for what’s really going on. i hope they aren’t too difficult for You… (i don’t believe in doing things that are too difficult 😉
    Best! and Thanks for All Your contributions.

  554. #556 Dan, Florida
    May 13, 2010

    @549 Try viewing Katla site and then full screen and capture. You must be looking at it using the pop up wmv player.

  555. #557 Reynir, .is
    May 13, 2010

    #551: Tried that, too. Same non-result. Foo… WMP10 ya jackass!

  556. #558 Passerby
    May 13, 2010

    Yes, another grateful support vote here for continued community service to this blog (and very likely to IES and other experts, too) through your kind provision of daily time-lapsed webcam movie – Philipp, TinTin and others.

  557. #559 Reynir, .is
    May 13, 2010

    Joy. Yet another ‘phone home and ask them to capture a pic’ group.

  558. #560 Pierre
    May 13, 2010

    Speaking of timlapse videos, here is a short 1-hour timelapse I made from the vodafone camera monday morning:

  559. #561 Kultsi, Askola, FI
    May 13, 2010

    @549 Reynir, screen capture of the RUV feed works right well for me – I have M$ Vista, but that is not so much different. I always use to capture the active window.

    You can also open the feed directly on M$ Media Player as an URL, mms:// if you want a larger picture.

  560. #562 Kultsi, Askola, FI
    May 13, 2010

    Duh! The Blog system ate up Alt-PrintScreen in less than – larger than bracketing.

    I tried to say “I always use Alt-PrintScreen to capture the active window.”

  561. #563 Anne in Scotland
    May 13, 2010

    Another mobile phone user on the Voda cam! “Hi honey – I’m on the volcano!”

  562. #564 Reynir, .is
    May 13, 2010

    #557,562: Found a workaround (on the ‘pedia): Turn down acceleration until DirectX stuff is off. Incidentally, that fixes WMP’s gamma issues. Looks like hardware overlays are a bit of a bother on my machine.

  563. #565 Henrik, Swe
    May 13, 2010

    Koen v G (#549). Very good summary, sorry if I abbreviated it too much. Since we share an interest here, did you light upon the recent news about Type Ia SN which throws doubt upon the use of Type Ia as standard candles?
    Or the PISN-type supernova?

  564. #566 Erik Klemetti
    May 13, 2010
  565. #567 Evelyn Sweden
    May 13, 2010

    Some pretty interesting shaking going on at Vatnajökull.
    Any thoughts to what might be going on there and any connections to Eyja?

  566. #568 PeakVT
    May 13, 2010

    Who wouldn’t be interested in a new Iceland post? 🙂

  567. #569 birdseyeUSA
    May 13, 2010

    ..and off we go to the new post…

  568. #570 Koen v G
    May 13, 2010

    #549, Henrik,

    Thanks, I left out the PISN, as well as some other exotic supernova types, too keep my story shorter. 😉 It’s all very intriguing but a complex matter. Astronomers still have many open questions there, even in areas which they once thought to understand quite well, like Type Ia SNs. There are some problems with their use as standard candle (asymmetry and super-Chandrasekhar explosions), but the results obtained by them, most notably dark energy, have been verified with other methods.

    But maybe we’re straying a bit too off-topic now…

  569. #571 stigger
    May 13, 2010

    @417 Henrik, that makes so much sense. I hope someone adopts it officially.

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