Crazy is as crazy does: EXPELLED and House of Numbers

Posted by ERV on April 23, 2009
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Check out this AWESOME anti-science movie!

  • Outdated, discredited, or simply flat-out scientifically wrong hypotheses presented as real scientific controversies!
  • Pro-outdated-discredited-wrong ‘scientists’ persecuted, ostracized by TEH MAN! World cant handle the philosophical implications of their brilliant ideas!
  • SUPER AWESOME cellular animations!
  • Real scientists interviewed under false pretenses! Quotemined!
  • Pissed off scientists shows up at movie screening and all hell breaks loose!

Am I talking about EXPELLED II: Dembskis vs the Baylor Lunch Lady?

No!

Im talking about EXPELLED-except-with-HIV-Denial movie, House of Numbers:

DIRP!

Awesomely, one of the misled real scientists, Dr. Daniel Kuritzkes, took a page from the PZ/Dawkins handbook and improved on it. Instead of just showing up at a local screening, Kuritzkes hosted a post-screening panel discussion. A panel of scientists. No Deniers. Deniers in the audience were blindsided, and lulz ensued.

You all just need to go read the whole article. ‘Fans’ of EXPELLED will get a kick out of it– Creationists, HIV Deniers, anti-vax– its all the same thing.

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  1. #1 Telemann
    September 13, 2009

    TeeDUK – sorry for any confusion, I got date from HON website, not Facebook. There would appear to be some confusion here. Perhaps you should contact the Paley Center folks and get it straightened out. The internet is a swamp of ambiguity and misinformation, as you probably know. Good luck.

  2. #2 somedude
    September 14, 2009

    Quotemined!

    Can you tell me which passages were quotemined and taken out of context? I’d like to be prepared before I go see it.

  3. #3 geewhybother
    September 14, 2009

    marie,

    don’t go looking for advice on-line; you will only find crackpots or people with zero educational interests and a never ending thirst for entertainment at your expense.

    “so I have the right to question hiv.
    “Nope. Sorry. Do feel free to try again next week.”

    I am sorry for your troubles but you will only find frustration here, so stop blogging before they turn you into a complete and unredeemable denialist.

  4. #4 Knowledge Is Power
    September 15, 2009

    Most biblical scholars and preachers readily admit that they know Christ was not born on December 25th. However, they claim that this day is as good as any other to celebrate the birth of Jesus, despite the fact that it was originally a pagan celebration called Saturnalia which commemorated the birth of the sun god.

    Yet the church perpetuates this error without recourse or repent and the world just plays along without challenging this status quo. Go figure.

    Personally, take all the ARVs you want. If you live, great; if not, dead. Don’t take ARV ever. If you live, great; if not, dead. Whichever way, make very informed decisions and live without regrets. You owe no one and no one owes you your own choice for life.

    Denialism is a double edged sword. It applies to those who don’t believe that HIV causes AIGS and to those who deny that there may be more than was disclosed. A closed mind to either option is unhealthy.

  5. #5 LanceR, JSG
    September 15, 2009

    False equivalence. You must look at actual evidence in order to make an informed decision, and all of the evidence says that HIV *is* AIDS.

    Knowledge is, indeed, power. Get some.

  6. #6 Carl
    March 13, 2010

    Ever heard of the Bangui definition of Aids, a 12 point system that declares Africans as suffering from Aids if they show signs of loss of energy (4 points), loss of weight (4 points) and diarrhoea (4 points). This fact alone and Luc Montagnier’s statement is enough for me to doubt the pharmaceutical industry. This method was used until 1992 and is still used in the absence of and anti-body test. You guys are crazy if you believe this mass murderer Robert Gallo. PS: I have seen people dying of AZT too.

  7. #7 T.rex
    March 19, 2010

    When one says that they have seen their friends die of AIDS, i’d like them to clarify that point.

    What exactly were the symptoms of their friend’s ailments while they were dying???

    Allow me to guess…. Heart disease, liver disease, kidney failure, with some nice bone density issues and dementia thrown into the mix…

    Hhhmmmm. the only problem is, none of those thing have anything remotely to do with the immune system, and everything to do with HIV medication.

    If a dissident can’t convince you.. i don’t really care… Keep eating all the meds you want… You have no one but yourself to blame in the long run.

    Meds takers die every day. They are seen as heroic, while Christine Maggiore is seen as foolish… You ain’t foolin’ nobody (but maybe yourself).

  8. #8 Iron Peter
    May 10, 2011

    Excuse, but I am afraid that you are wrong.

    [I]“To be positive on the HIV test, one must first score positive on the ELISA test, and then positive on the Western Blot test. In one study, over 17,000 people who had scored positive in this way were examined by techniques to identify the virus presense – only one did not have virus. This gives an operational false positive rate, in that study, of about 1:17,000.”[/I]

    According to this study, in low-prevalence populations the false positive rate of the algorithm you describe is 50%.

    [I]AIDS counselling for low-risk clients[/I]. AIDS Care. 1998 Apr;10(2):197-211.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9625903

    [I]“And then, after one is diagnosed positive, there is a followup therapeutic series of tests for viral load, using yet another technique, typically a PCR-based viral load test. Even if one were a false positive in the ELISA-Western Blot tests, it would soon be apparent that there was no virus – and this is very, very , very rare”[/I]

    According to this study, “PCR-based viral load tests” detect also “copies of HIV” (?) in HIV negative persons.

    [I]False positives for HIV using commercial viral load quantification assays[/I] AIDS:
    October 1998 – Volume 12 – Issue 15 – p 2076–2077

    http://www.google.es/#hl=es&source=hp&biw=1024&bih=677&q=False+positives+for+HIV+using+commercial+viral+load+quantification+assays&btnG=Buscar+con+Google&oq=False+positives+for+HIV+using+commercial+viral+load+quantification+assays&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=s&gs_upl=1834l1834l0l1l1l0l0l0l0l198l198l0.1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=b66f62a4c998f8c8

  9. #9 Bob Saysno
    April 14, 2012

    Unbelievable!

    You people deserve to die!

    I really can’t believe just how stupid some people are!

    Die of ignorance… Die of AIDS!!! LOL

    Acquired Ignorant Dumbass Syndrome

    You people wouldn’t know the meaning of science if it was dressed in a pink and green jumpsuit jumping up and down yelling “look at me! I’m a virus!!”

    Sheeple really do deserve the current depopulation agenda being thrust upon them. We are wasting our time trying to show them the light. Don’t waste your time, let them eat AZT, or whatever other types of poison the choose to mindlessly consume.

    I believe today you can find many, many free online dictionary’s. Try looking up reason and/or logic.

  10. #10 NJ
    April 14, 2012

    Bob Sayno…thing of value @ 309:

    Unbelievable!

    Yes, it is. You have chosen to sputter incoherently on a three-year old post. It is literally impossible to interpret from your ravings exactly what you are for or against.

    My only suggestion: Alprazolam. Try having your caretaker get it prescribed for you.

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