Look, I like weird people. Goth kids. Sci-fi geeks. Language nerds.
Weird people are far more interesting than, say, the 'normal' people that get cast for shows like 'The Bachelor': Generic Human #231975, Generic Human #576930, Generic Human #750193, bleh.
But theres a whole different level of weird, and that level is 'Creationist'.
Example: Remember that guy, that Creationist that branded kids in his Ohio classroom? Had a whole system of weird signals and words and stuff he was brainwashing kids with?
Yes, that was weird, but now weve reached a level of weird only Creationists can hope to attain:
The caller purportedly told Freshwater that the school had discarded some documents in a dumpster at the high school and that the documents contained information that would exonerate him. Sometime during the night of the 4th or morning of the 5th, Freshwater, his lawyer R. Kelly Hamilton, and his pastor Don Matolyak are said to have gone through one or more school dumpsters, removing some documents and taking them to Matolyak's church, Trinity Assembly of God, to go through them.
And then theres this bit of weird:
The materials were not in a dumpster at the high school, but were by a trash can in an area near it, in an "old black computer bag" inside a plastic bag. On top of the bag was a letter addressed to Freshwater. The police report does not contain the contents of that letter. The bag contained a 3"-4" stack of papers and a "large number of photographs of items from John's room." It also contained three stopwatches, a whistle, and $45 in cash.
OH OF COURSE!
The famous 'three stopwatches, a whistle, and $45 cash' ruling, which states that it is perfectly legal to teach Creationism as science in public school classrooms! DUH!
Well, this changes everything. If there had been two stopwatches and two whistles, with a $50 Target gift-card, Freshwater would have been shit-outta-luck.
But three stopwatches, a whistle, and $45 cash? This changes everything. This completely exonerates Freshwater.
O.o
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This sounds like the "Chewbacca defense" from South Park.
What the hell would you need two whistles for, though? I mean, really, we need to be logical about this.
I don't see how photos of his classrom will somehow help him in this case either. There is no evidence that will show that he DIDN'T brand a kid with electrical equipment or DIDN'T teach creationism in science class. He's all but admitted to doing both of those. Sounds like they are stalling and/or trying to create some weird conspiracy theory to get him off the hook.
That sounds like the title to a long-lost novel written by John D. McDonald in collaboration with Thorne Smith.
Sounds like something out of Philip K. Dick.
What the hell would you need two whistles for, though?
SAMBA!!
What? Where's the two wetsuits and a dildo?
Three stopwatches, a whistle, and $45 in cash, there has to be a sexual joke in that in some way...
You think that was the whistle that someone blew on him?
Well, besides Blake's comment about Dick and Jon H's rubber suit and dildo fantasy, it seems to me that:
$45 bucks pays for someone to blow the whistle while three watch.
D.C.: That was a reference to a 2007 police report on a deceased Alabama minister, and what he was wearing.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/1008072scuba1.html
So, three stopwatches, a whistle, and $45 in cash walk into a bar...
Man, that is kinky. I mean, two wetsuits?
Oh, wait. He was a creationist wasn't he?
" I mean, two wetsuits?"
Exactly. And rubber underwear. And the dildo 'in use'.
Well, I can see those. But two wetsuits?
I'm just not terribly imaginative -- I'm the sort who wants wetsuit #2 to have someone else in it.
If you think creationists are weird, wait until you meet one of them environment nuts. I can see their God, Al Gore standing in front of a so called melting glacier with his staff in hand yelling " YOU SHALL NOT PASS" while his master Osama Hopenchange fixes his eyes upon the crap and trade bill and mumbles to himself " my preeeecious!"
Now that's weird. Nothing is weirder than a marxist leftist socialist tree hugger with a desire to sexually fornicate with the tailpipe of a Hummer before lighting it on fire.
Hear about them pervert commies in Texas lighting fire to churches? I hope the Texans catch them and shove a red hot poker up their ass, before burning them at the stake. Firebugs deserve to be set on fire.
^^^^^ Man, you can just see the mental defense mechanisms struggling to kick into action, like an old car engine on its last legs.
"CHUGGA CHUGGA CHUGGA ssssssssss...."
Is #18 a comment on 16 and 17 or on wetsuits?
Well for all we know, Mr. Crazypants at 16 and 17 could in fact be Reverend Two-Ply.
But mostly I'm just really amused when the nuttier trolls try to use non sequiturs to distract from the indefensible.
Leftists are weird. Especially the fornicators. They'll fornicate with anything, before they protest it. I'll bet they masturbate with Darwin's picture, or the monkey's picture, if you can tell the difference.
Environazis are weird too. The IPCC lied and global warming died!
Proposition 8 hailed, and the hompaths failed.
Do you suffer from homopathic tendencies? Have you tried nohomoline? It is the only none FDA approved herbal rememdy to cure homopathicitis. Get your doctor to prescrivbe it for you today and turn your homo erectus into a hetero normalis. Free trials while offers last. Subject to change without notice.
Proposition 8 hailed, and the hompaths failed.
Do you suffer from homopathic tendencies? Have you tried nohomoline? It is the only none FDA approved herbal rememdy to cure homopathicitis. Get your doctor to prescrivbe it for you today and turn your homo erectus into a hetero normalis."
HAHA you can't spell, fag.
Oh shit he got the magic Jesus whistle...
/summon Jesus
"HAHA you can't spell, fag."
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You, sir, are being intolerant and politically incorrect. You know that the far left marxist socialist nuts changed the word "fag" to homopath so that it would be more politically corect and not so confrontational. Besides homopath is now a medical term for perverted Sodomite homo.
Heard of phsychopath or sociaopath, well now we have homopaths and many live in San Fransicko. There is a cure though. Nohomoline can cure the disease.
If you are not sure if you are a chronic homopath, please check the diameter of your bunghole. Anyting between 3 and five 8 inches in diasmeter indicates you have hompathic tendecy that should be immediately reported to Homopathiccureologist. This disease circulates around San Fransick and the former cities of Sodom and Gomorrah and other places around the globe. Now there is a cure. try nohomoline free for thirty days. If your bunghole doesn;t shrink in thirty days, you may need to have a further discussion with your Homopathiccureologist.
Epic fail.
"Heard of phsychopath or sociaopath..."
No.
P.S., since you can't use punctuation either, you're a double fag.
Also, MHC has now shown up on EvolutionBlog and thus appears to be spreading AIDS for great justice. ScienceBlogs might consider an AIDS quarantine by only allowing him to comment wherever CP blogs.
"Epic fail."
So is this CPP doing what the kids call "trolling"? Or is it a genuinely mentally deranged individual? But I repeat myself...
I do not have aids. I am not a homopath. However, Iran says they have a cure for AIDS now. Maybe they can share.
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Tyler DiPietro ,
They also now have a cure for liberalpathic people too. It is called Normalcillan. I prescribe a dose of 166 grams of Normalcillal 25 times a day via suppository.
Are you a deranged liberal who's still stuck in 1967? Never fear, help is here. If you suffer from environmental anxieties and fear global warming is happening please call 1-800-IPCC-Lied. If you fear that so called gays are getting fair treatment becuase 6000 years of human hsitory and the Bible has condemed their personal lifestyle choice, then please call 1-800-Ilove-homos. If you fear that the healthcare scam will not et passed and marxist socialism will not be passed in America, pleae call 1-800-HELL-CARE.
If you fear that Sarah palin is going to make militant man hating husband hating children killing feminist indoctrinated young girls turn into normal young women who care for their family and husband, please call 1-800-Ifear-Normalpeople.
If you fear the church and fear thye Book of Genesis please call 1-800-Satan-Rules.
For al other liberal irregularities and abnormalities, please call the White House and ask for the man who causes trembles to go up reporters' leg. His magical powers of hopenchange can calm your fears, ease your tensions, and make your life worth living again.
So, AIDSy McGee, what will you do when you run out of e-mail forwards from the Inbred Hillbilly Dumbass Mailing List?
Okay, retard continually goes on unfunny, tl;dr rants; I keep coming back with pithy, funny comments that are full of win. This routine is getting pretty formulaic.
â What The Fuck is happening here?
This is so embarrassing it is physically painful.
Like when you drive by a really old person who is out to get the paper and forgot to wear pants.
It makes you want to spoon out your eyes.
I'm just hoping it's a sock puppet CPP came up with to try and prove he can troll.
Troll? Why not vampire, or werewolf or Lizardman of Scape Ore Swamp? Why troll? I am not that short or ugly. Besides true trolls are the pukwudgies that live in the woods of Massachusetts. I think they are hiding from Barney Frank. I know I would be. It's one thing to be hompathic, but to be a homopathic congressman that can't speak one word of modern english is something else.
Cain, ask your friend what is happening? He just got leftover pukwudgie drippings all over him. Methinks he likes it -alot.
Oh please, MHC, we all know you love the cock.
Pretty much proves its own point, I'd say.
Tyler,
I do love chicken. Do you like pukwudgie drippings? Methinks you slurp them in secrecy.
No I am not a homopath. I am normal. AKA - pre 1960 sexual/drug/homo/hippy/commie/marxist/environut revolution. You know, normal American. We have to get that pre 1960 conservative mentality back in this country. These libs are murdering America. I feel like Cuba sometimes. Especially with socialist president Hussein Hopenchange screwing us over on the HELLthcare bill and the CRAP and Trade bill.
MHC, I'm gay, your apparently republican. Why don't you take that all the way and have secret sex with me in a public restroom? You can snort crack off my belly and slip bills in my g-string.
That's what republicans do, right?
HA! I'm still high in the Google rankings for my post on this if you search for
closeted gimp-suit wearing evangelicals.
That is probably what republicans do. I am not a Republican. I am a conservative.
Why don;t you steal some money hide it in the freezer of your home. Then spill your stuff on a blue dress and lie about it under oath. Then you can rant and rave about the environment and so called global warming while leaving your private limo running for two hours and flying your private jet all over the world while condeming everyone else for doing the same thing. That's what democrats do right? Why don;t you go steal from an honest hard working person and give the money to a lazy trashy drugged up hippy bum. That's what democrats do right right? Spread the wealth around?
So who saw me say I'm a democrat?
MHC, I think you're imagining things. Gays don't have political affiliation because we don't leave stuff on blue dresses (unless guys are wearing those blue dresses, and since any self-respecting cross dresser wears red, that means only conservatives wear blue. Did you want me to leave a stain on your blue dress?). We're interior designers and nurses. We whine and whimper about broken nails and how *hot* that foreign guy with the mmmhmm accent looks in his armani- tone muscles, clean shave, and mmm I wanna meet his hair stylist!
The rich gays also don't own private jets, they're too busy orchestrating the gay agenda and making sure our pink swastikas go well with our designer AK-47's.
It's also important to note that gays don't give money away. That's why gay couples shouldn't get married, because we don't have kids and so all our money goes into throwing ornate orgies, decorating our homes, and making sure we have perfect complexions.
I'm surprised that much text can fit on your palm, HC:
-leftist islamofascist socialist tree hugger
-homopath
-fornicate
-bung hole
-environut revolution
-lazy trashy drugged up hippy bum
ildi, I'm guessing his palms are well-developed.
Optimus Primate-
Most conservatives have well developed palms, they get it from the internet.
Proving one can troll: I gotta say, that's setting the bar pretty low.
Damn. I haven't had a good orgy in more than a year.
kharisym,
I think you forgot to mention being thrown into a lake of fire at some future event. I alos think you forgot to mention past events like Sodom and Gomorrah. You know they were destroyed completly for just what you are describing. Do me a favor and don;t stand too close to me. I do not wish to be struck down too.
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My palms are fine and have no writing on them. You got one thing wrong Islamofascists are not liberals and are not gay. At least they have a shred of sense left.
By the way, kharisym, don't let that middle astern man catch you imagining your fornication with him, you'll be have your nuts cut off when he jihads you. Wait, too late.
Seriously, have you ever taken testosterone to get yourself back to normal. Were you a victim of child abuse/rape? What happened to you in your life that made you decide to fornication with men rather than live as you were meant to - one man and one woman? God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve and certainly not Adam and Fido. Maybe that's why leftists are so violently opposed to Genesis more than any other book. It is the foundation of the Christian religion. Without Genesis, the rest is not very good at all. Genesis explains so many things including human relationships and what's wrong, right, and why.
If you keep feeding it...
Maybe you can give lessons on rote memorization to the missus so she doesn't come across quite so retarded on camera next time?
(I'm using retarded as satire, so per Mrs. HC, it's, like, totally ok.)
Yeah, I think it's time to call this one a Poe and be done with it.
MHC, MHC, MHC! You're showing your ignorance of gays. We *can't* end up in a lake of fire because you have to have a soul to end up in hell. Unless you mean that gay dance club down the road called 'Lake of Fire' Mm, that place is hot.
Also, you're assuming things again? I said he had a sexy accent, but, being a conservative I can understand how you think a masculine, mid-eastern accent would sound sexy to you. No, Antuan is Brazilian, and he's waiting for me to put on the leather chaps as I type- I certainly hope he 'jihads' me nice and deep tonight, mrrrowl!
Does testosterone count if it's injected in the mouth, using another man's needle? If so, I take testosterone injections several times a week! I really like them. :-) And no, I was never a victim of child abuse and rape, here again you show your lack of knowledge about gays. I was recruited into the gay malitia from a proper Christian household when I was tempted by the incredible pleasure that is gay sex. After that I went through the standard training of all new gay recruits and stuck in a pod to ferment for 6 to 8 weeks, then given my first pair of armani shoes.
Now I'm afraid Antuan is calling, I need to go for the evening. If you come and join us, I promise I won't tell your friends. *wink* At the very least we can sign the standard conservative contract that I'm sure you're well aware of, it's the one that all conservatives sign when they're engaging in promiscuous, back alley carnal acts with their gay lovers.
I think dust in a sunbeam got bit by Lizardman of Scape Ore Swamp. Poe? Just call me - the POEt.
A Poe would have agreed to the use of islamofascist in that bullet point... I'm just sayin'...
(troll-feeding time over)
I think Hopey Changey is the same guy who posted as "Medicine Man" and various related 'nyms at Orac's pad a few weeks ago. The "homopaths" line is a dead giveaway.
Anyway, boring troll is boring.
kharisym,
You are one sick twisted pervert. You have a soul. Looks like Satan got hold of it though. Yes that fire will be hot and it will be forver. Hope you enjoy your precisous fornication while it lasts. You'll pay for it in the ends. Hope you don;t get AIDS or something.
So after you betrayed your faith (which is another blasphemous atrocity) how did your parents take it? I assume they kicked you out of the house for good? I have a first cousin who is a lesbian. It looks real good at Christmas for two ugly fat white lesbian women to have a black kid there. I feel sorry for the kid. He can't help it. I don;t know why they are allowed to come into the house like this. Everyone thinks its filthy and perverse but no one says anything. She was not a victim of abuse either. I assume she was bullied or just had demononic influence (like you). to persuade her over to the dark side.
"I do love chicken."
You mean you love choking it to gay porn you gay porn lover. Which is just as well as a substitute since I doubt any real gay guy would bang you.
"If you keep feeding it..."
Actually, I'm pretty sure more site hits generate money for the blog owner. So ERV gets moar Jew gold if we keep feeding.
Wow, that's such a pathetic response Hopey. There is no evidence for your God. Plus, the fact that "Satan" can steal people's soul speaks poorly of your God's omnipotence if it were real. (Then again, your god did get repealed by iron chariots, so his credibility is already down the drain.) That whole trip you just spewed shows that you are nothing more than a bigot and possible misogynic too. But feel free to keeping worshiping a hateful, vengeful, vain, jealous, and genocidal creature.
Re Hopey Changey
Over at Jason Rosenhouses' blog fuckface lying goat fucker Mr. Hopey Changey has charged that Charles Darwin was a slave holder. That of course is a fucking lie of monumental proportions and indicates that Mr. Changey is not only ignorant of science bur also of history.
In the first place, slavery had been outlawed in Great Britain long before Darwin was born so he could not possibly have owned slaves. In the second place, Darwin was a well known and vocal opponent of slavery and was a strong supporter of the Union side in the US Civil War. In addition, he was part of a movement in Great Britain that was greatly responsible for opposing any intervention by the British Government on the side of the Confederate States. To paraphrase Richard Dawkins, anyone who claims that Charles Darwin was a slave holder or was a supporter of slavery is either ignorant, stupid, insane, or wicked and Mr. Changey is all of the above.
MHC,
I'm afraid I'm not sure how you know that. Do you take care of Satan's paperwork? Okay, you got me, I did sell my soul to satan for that manicure one time, best nails I've ever had! That said, I sold my soul after I hatched from my gay fermentation pod.
Clearly those lesbians you know aren't real lesbians, they're plants. We here at Gay Agenda Inc occasionally kidnap hapless victims and brainwash them into being something other than the standard rank and file, awesomely good looking people we usually are- It helps to throw off the conservative hound dogs. After all, I personally would never adopt a black child, you realize how hard it is to color match brown with pastel drapes?
MHC, I've gotta tell you, last night was wonderful and I wish you could be there! Me and Antuan decided to do some role playing straight out of the Gay Agenda handbook. I was American Freedom, and Antuan was the big, pulsing gay agenda.
Thanks for the PKD link, Blake; I googled
quantum foam temporal displacement infidibulum
without much success. Not even a Sirens of Titan ref.
Theres a line between weird and crazy, there is also a line between crazy and bat shit crazy. That guy crossed both and probably a few more.
Tyler diPietro,
If you keep flirting with MHC like that I'm going to call off our date at the Ramrod next week. I thought you liked the sling!
kharisym, are you available?
Wow. Cool. It isn't everyday that you get to see first hand just how ignorant, delusional and just plain stupid a human being can be.
Congrats MHC! You are a shining blazing beacon! Decent, rational atheists could not have come up with a more perfect example of just how poisonous conservative religious dogma can be. Shine on I say! Your opponents will gratefully use you to further THEIR agendas. You are such a despicable excuse for a human being that you will certainly disgust even the majority of christians that are exposed to you.
SLC,
Stop masturbating and listen. Darwin may not have exactly been a real slave owner, but his views oif black people rivaled the view that Hitler had of the Jews. Did you rread all of his books or just the delusion called origin of species. You knoiw, in another book, he slaughters the image of black people by putting them intellectually into the same category as apes and chimps. Darwin was a racist freak of nature. Now stop sniffing your own farts and pay attention.
"Stop masturbating and listen. Darwin may not have exactly been a real slave owner..."
Let's all have a casual disregard for the facts, it's the American way!
"Darwin may not have exactly been a real slave owner, but his views oif black people rivaled the view that Hitler had of the Jews."
LOL. Was Darwin's view as influenced by reformation theologians as Hitler's was? (Hint: look up "On the Jews and their Lies" by Martin Luther.)
"You knoiw, in another book, he slaughters the image of black people by putting them intellectually into the same category as apes and chimps."
I'd ask you to cite the book and the passage where he does such a thing, but you've already admitted elsewhere that you don't read.
You know, MHC, if you really want a mind-trip you should try reading some of the things Abraham Lincoln said about black people. Like Darwin, his views would be considered extremely racist today, but were enlightened for the time period. But expecting you to wrap your mind around this mildly complex historical concept is a bit like expecting a salamander to solve the Schroedinger equation.
Re Hopey Changey
Here are some excerpts from letters that Darwin, one of the three most important scientists who ever live (along with Issac Newton and Albert Einstein) on the subject of slavery.
It is known that Darwin, as well as his friends and family, were very much in favor of the Great Reform Act of 1832, which extended voting rights to millions of formally disenfranchised citizens. He was also a staunch supporter of the abolishment of slavery. Here are a few excerpts from letters Darwin wrote home while on the Beagle Voyage:
"The Captain does every thing in his power to assist me, & we get on very well - but I thank my better fortune he has not made me a renegade to Whig principles: I would not be a Tory, if it was merely on account of their cold hearts about that scandal to Christian Nations, Slavery."
-- To Revd. John Henslow 18 May 1832 from Rio de Janeiro.
"What a proud thing for England, if she is the first European nation which utterly abolishes it. I was told before leaving England, that after in Slave countries: all my opinions would be altered; the only alteration I am aware of is forming a much higher estimate of the Negro character."
-- To his sister, Catherine, on 22 May 1833 from Maldonado, Rio Plata.
"It does one's heart good to hear how things are going on in England. Hurrah for the honest Whigs. I trust they will soon attack that monstrous stain on our boasted liberty, Colonial Slavery. I have seen enough of Slavery & the disposition of the negros, to be thoroughly disgusted with the lies & nonsense one hears on the subject in England."
To John Herbert on 2 June, 1833 from Maldonado, Rio Plata.
http://www.aboutdarwin.com/darwin/WhoWas.html
I think the comparison of Darwin with Hitler has to be the most despicable comment on this blog so far. But not surprising coming from Mr. Changey, a man who would fuck his mother if he knew who she was.
Hitler was influenced by "survival of the fittest" ideology and he believed as Darwin did that one particular species was evolved more than another particular species, therefore they were superior. Sounds racist to me.
Darwin, evolution, and racism
http://www.straight-talk.net/evolution/racist.shtml
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SLC, you are the hope that future generations need. NAH! You're just twisted and sick. Did you ever fully recover from the commie fornication party (woodstock)? Far left marxists are so hateful. I'll be glad when the Lord comes and wipes them out and everything can go back to normal again.
I agree with MHC. Darwin had a thing for comparing chimps to black people.
Uncle Glenny, Always. :-) I'll bring the scrabble board.
MHC,
Antuan left me! He said he's found himself a conservative sugadaddy, who's paying him weekly stipends so long as he doesn't go to the news media about their back-door romps in Brazil. Such is the life of a gay man, fall in love, then pick up your weekly check from conservative politicians.
I also agree with you, Darwin was certainly immoral. Any guy who can't keep at least a minimally decent shave on the face is obviously a sub-moral individual. If only Darwin were gay, then perhaps this century would be more enlightened. The phylogenetic tree would've been in a nice beige instead of solid black, germ theory would be called that icky theory, and conservative would have probably evolved better complexions.
Hopey, your Lord isn't coming. Darwin killed him. Sorry to break it to you.
Actually I though He killed Darwin. I wonder if Darwin is enjoying the heat and fire and all the nasty creatures torturing him right now. I bet his beard caught on fire first and he managed to remember how to run like an ape.
Re Hopey Changey
1. Actually, Darwin never used the term survival of the fittest. That was the work of Herbert Spencer. Yet another instance of goat fucker Changeys' ignorance. In addition, just for the information of Mr. Changey, Hitler was a creationist who rejected Darwins' theory of evolution as did Joe Stalin who sent evolutionary biologists to the gulag for opposing the notions of his boy, Trofim Lysenko.
SLC, you are the hope that future generations need. NAH! You're just twisted and sick. Did you ever fully recover from the commie fornication party (woodstock)? Far left marxists are so hateful. I'll be glad when the Lord comes and wipes them out and everything can go back to normal again.
I have a suggestion for mother fucker Changey. Do the world a favor and hold your breath until the second coming of Yeshua of Nazareth.
HAHAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, FAGS WHO IMITATE ME (probably Wallaids) SUCK COCKS.
"Hitler was influenced by "survival of the fittest" ideology..."
Hitler's views were by and large creationist in nature.
Hitler was NOT a creationist. He hated Christianity and even called it a religion for the weak.
SLC, I don;t know why you are being a royal ass and calling me names like the little punk you are, but keep it up. It's what racist fag hate breeders like you do. It's in your blood. I bet your mother liked Hitler's cock. It explains why your such a racist ass.
I tried being nice and ignoring your stupidity, but your race baiter hate filled bigotry got to me. From now on, how about growing some balls and acting like a real human instead of a pile of Hitler shit cummed all over after your mother licked it. Wow. it does feel good to be a liberal. Thanks for showing me the way.
"Hitler was NOT a creationist. He hated Christianity and even called it a religion for the weak."
Hitler, in a 4/12/1922 Reichstag speech:
"My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them."
In fact, it's provided in my link. I know reading is hard but you can at least try.
Yeah, I know, what a mystery. You were so polite when you first oozed in here.
Let me guess: as long as you do it all in the name of the Invisible Ghost Buddy in your addled little skull, it's justified?
And really, you are getting more and more graphic in your homosexual fantasies. One really starts to wonder, dear.
This "Hitler was a Darwin fan and not a Christian" idea is so batshit insane that only the batshit insane try to support it. It requires the claim that Hitler secretly was a fan of evolution but that he conspired to keep his views secret and to put on the impression to the rest of the world that he hated it.. for no clear reason.
I mean look at the list of books banned by the nazis. You'll find statements like this in the list of things that were forbidden:
Or how about this:
So basically he was a big time Darwin supporter atheist who instead only wrote about his support for Christianity and worked to prevent his people from reading anything that criticized Christianity or anything that supported Darwin.
Some might call that a rather irrational conclusion given the available information.
Regarding the Freshwater story.. it gets even weirder. It was a late night rendezvous at the trash can, and the pastor feared his life was in danger and called in the support of a friend with a concealed weapon permit in case of potential foul play.
This is the hypocrisy of the creationist position in these matters. The record is that the opponents to the creationism are the ones that receive death threats, but the creationists have this need to feel persecuted so they end up fearing for their own lives despite the total lack of any sort of threat whatsoever. I'm just glad that the area was apparently deserted at the time they went, I can easily imagine this farce becoming even more involved by the armed friend being startled by something and accidentally shooting an innocent bystander.
But the pastor didn't feel that the situation warranted contacting the police yet, according to him it was merely a fact finding mission. He only contacted the police after the material was recovered on advice of Freshwater's lawyer, advice that may turn out to have been rather smart because it's sounding like the stuff was stolen from the school, including the money.
And for the record apparently Freshwater did not take part in this little adventure. The initial rumor was that he had, but the official report is that he was out of town at the time so he called his pastor and asked him to do it for him.
Is there some sorta creo gameshow, where they desperately battle each other to prove how stupid they are; the prize being to be allowed to visit sciBlogs?
I don't know about that, but there is a certain class taught by a certain William Dembski in which he makes his students defend ID on "hostile" websites in order to earn their grade.
To the creationist mind trying to establish a connection between Charles Darwin and Adolph Hitler *is* defending ID. So, well.. maybe MHC is just trying to earn his grade.
Unfortunately, I have admit that Mr. Hopey Changey may not be entirely incorrect relative to Hitlers' views on religion. As many have pointed out, in public and in his writings, there is no question that Hitler professed to be a believing Christian and gave his professed religious beliefs as a partial reason for his dislike of Jews. On the other hand, there is evidence that, in private, Hitler was contemptuous of religion in general and Christianity in particular. He is even quoted by Albert Speer as once stating that the Shintoism practiced in Japan would have been a better fit for the German people then Christianity. However, since much of the evidence of his private views were supplied by Martin Bormann, who is not considered a very reliable source, this is,perhaps, somewhat problematic. Thus, at best, I think we are not in a position to determine what Hitlers' actual religious views were.
On the other hand, there is no evidence that Hitler accepted Darwins' theory of evolution in private and, in fact, in all his public speeches and writings there can be no doubt that he was a creationist and rejected the Darwinian theory of evolution, just as Joe Stalin did (although Stalin rejected Darwins' theory for different reasons as he accepted the Lamarckian explanation). Hitlers' view was that the German people were a superior race not because of evolution but because they were created superior. However, there can also be no doubt that his antisemitic views derived not from Darwin but from Martin Luther, rather fine considering that Hitler was a baptized Catholic.
SLC: Leaving aside the difficulties of knowing exactly what was happening inside Hitler's head, and noting as you have that his public output was professedly Christian, we should remember that he was speaking to an audience largely of Lutherans and Catholics, and their religion didn't seem to prevent their being Nazis or attempting to commit genocide.
Anyway, somebody claiming that evolutionary theory made them kill people is like somebody claiming that gravitational theory made them throw people off cliffs; it's got sod-all to do with science.
Re Stephen Wells
I would agree with Mr. Wells that, as a practical matter, whatever was going on inside his head, Hitler was preaching to the choir when he addressed largely Christian audiences. Perhaps he was like Ms. (Mr.) Ann Coulter in this regard who has been described by a former gentleman friend as someone who does not believe 90% of the crap that comes out of her mouth and word processor.
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SLC@#79
"On the other hand, there is evidence that, in private, Hitler was contemptuous of religion in general and Christianity in particular."
Sort of....
He was contemptuous of its application and critical of the lack of exploitation of its power by the state.
Hitler took confession and public communion until 1918 then from 1918 to 1924 everything is sketchy. After rising to power he had scheduled visits with priests that correspond with mass so like other catholic head of state there is every indication he took confession and communion privately.
Both his public and private relationship with the roman catholic church is fairly clear considering church leaders were the confessors of his confessor and they set about carving his face on baptismal fonts.
When people write about Hitler they always want to attach the weirdest extremes they can.
He was a plain Roman Catholic.
He was just somewhat superstitious.
He was a slightly above average representational landscape painter.
He didn't smoke because it made his lungs hurt but didn't make a big deal about it and gave out cigarette cases as gifts and kept cigarettes and lighters in all his homes.
He wasn't a vegetarian. Meat made him immediately gassy so he didn't eat it in front of other people.
He didn't drink for the same reason.
He liked apple juice.
He was sexually repressed.
He was painfully self conscious.
He was a monster but he was also very mundane. When people try to make him into whatever they are mad at or make him the opposite of whatever they like they just sound like idiots.
Of course Hitler wasn't a Darwinist. Hitler didn't care about science. He was interested in art, politics and classics. Plato (The Republic) was Hitler's go-to-guy on eugenics.
Creationists have no clue because they read history for ammunition instead of content (which means they don't read history at all).
Re Prometheus @ #83
He was sexually repressed.
Actually, he was very likely a sexually repressed homosexual. One of the rumors about him is that he contracted Syphilis from a male prostitute while living in a hostel in Vienna. I think it is clear that he was suffering from tertiary Syphilis during the war and probably from Parkinsons disease. He was also addicted to speed and received the substance in vitamin shots every morning from his quack physician.
Of course Hitler wasn't a Darwinist. Hitler didn't care about science. He was interested in art, politics and classics. Plato (The Republic) was Hitler's go-to-guy on eugenics.
That's true of pure science but Hitler was fascinated with war technology, particularly tanks, aircraft, missiles, and battleships. His support of Guderian and the armored warfare proponents was greatly responsible for the early success of the German armed forces.
He was contemptuous of its application and critical of the lack of exploitation of its power by the state.
That's probably why he told Albert Speer that Shintoism would have been a better religious choice for Germany. Someone who preferred Shintoism doesn't seem like much of a Roman Catholic.
"Someone who preferred Shintoism doesn't seem like much of a Roman Catholic."
The only Shinto practice he was familiar with was State Shinto which was a perfect nationalistic fascist religious system.
The principal political failing of Catholicism as part of his totalitarian ideal was that Catholicism already had a state and a head of state (not Germany and not him).
The observation applied to organization not the respective belief systems belief.
Re Prometheus @ #85
Actually, Hitler was a big fan of the bushido concept in Shintoism. At least according to Speer, he considered Christianity effete in comparison.
Tasty poe is tasty.
Yeah. Taste like chicken. Trying to tell you people something is like watching a turd swim in a punchbowl.
I think SLC may be related to Turd Fergeson
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Turd%20Fergeson
Is evolution peddling the idea of turd fights?
turd fight :
What happens when two monkeys get into a sort of "cockfight", but instead throw turds at each other.
The epic turd fight between the two monkeys ended with one monkey getting the shit beat out of him and turd shoved up his ass.
I guess that makes evolution true since libs are full of shit and admits to being evolved from these two monkeys.
Re POE
I think SLC may be related to Turd Fergeson
Unlike Mr. POE who wanks off on gay porn clips.
Are you a turd peeker or turd burgler? Both?
Piss off already, CPP.
You're right, ERV. It does not compute."
John Freshwater addressed the school board at its monthly meeting and gave the board an update on recent events related to his employment hearing.
"I thought the hearing was about to end sometime last month but the proceeding changed again because somebody sent an anonymous letter containing some photographs of some items from my classroom," Freshwater said. "Last week another anonymous delivery was made that contained approximately 300 photographs of items that were in my room."
(Source, YouTube video.)
An article published by the Mount Vernon News provides some additional information. (See the article "Anonymous source leads to 'black bag' find," by Samantha Scoles. )
"Last week another anonymous delivery was made that contained approximately 300 photographs of items that were in my room."
OH! 300 photographs of items in a room, three stopwatches, a whistle, and $45 cash.
That isnt insane at all.
*blink*
LOL! What a nutbar!