Its even changing the playing field with HIV-1 Deniers.
Long-time readers know I have relatively little patience with HIV-1 Deniers. Everyone involved with HIV Denial, from the ‘professional scientists’ to the ‘Average Joe snake-oil salesman’ are complete and utter morons. So, frankly, they are only good for one thing: lulz.
So while I like writing about the latest HIV-1 findings on ERV, I rarely actively engage HIV Deniers. I just laugh at them.
Now, that is a Very Bad Move, according to Mooney. HIV-1 researchers should be building bridges with HIV Deniers:
Instead, I believe we need some real attempts at bridge-building between medical institutions–which, let’s admit it, can often seem remote and haughty–and the leaders of the
anti-vaccinationHIV Denial movement. We need to get people in a room and try to get them to agree about something–anything. We need to encourage moderation, and break down a polarized situation in which the anti-vaccineHIV Denial crowd essentially rejects modern medical research based on the equivalent of conspiracy theory thinking, even as mainstream doctors just shake their heads at these advocates’ scientific cluelessness. VaccineHIV skepticism is turning into one of the largest and most threatening anti-science movements of modern times. Watching it grow, we should be very, very worried–and should not assume for a moment that the voice of scientific reason, in the form of new studies or the debunking of old, misleading ones, will make it go away.
This is what happens when you try to build bridges with HIV Deniers:
A grad student at Harvard, Silvia Piccinotti, wrote a very nice letter to the makers of ‘House of Numbers‘. Its a very nice letter, honestly asking them some questions, and honestly offering her expertise to help them ‘get’ scientists perspective on this issue . I dont believe I have ever been this nice to an HIV Denier, in my life, ever.
If we were dealing with sane, normal people, here, I would have expected a few things to happen:
1– They ignore her.
2– They send a generic ‘thank you for your comments’ response
3– They put forth an honest attempt at constructive dialog
But of course, we arent dealing with sane, normal people. We are dealing with HIV DENIERS who havent been interested in a serious dialog in 25 YEARS.
So the makers of ‘House of Numbers’ instead chose to post her letter on their facebook page, along with a pic of her they found on the internet and some personal info (schools she went to, graduation dates, who shes worked with, etc. no, yeah, thats not at all creepy) with no actual response to Silvia.
The ‘House of Numbers’ troupe then forwarded her letter to the Perth Group. You know, that group of people who defended a guy in Australia who was fucking any woman that would touch him without telling them he was HIV-1 positive? They defended him buy saying he didnt do anything wrong, cause “HIV doesnt exist”?
Yeah, they posted their ‘response’ to Silvia, also on the ‘House of Numbers’ facebook page. Shorter Perth Group: “We have no education in basic virology and we dont know how to use PubMed. So Google this stuff for us, Silvia.”
So Silvias reward for being nice and honest, trying to ‘build bridges’ with HIV Deniers has led to her defending herself in ~200 comments against some fucking morons. No one. No one in those comment threads knows their ass from p24, but boy howdy, theyre gonna tell that stupid little girl student The Truth behind HIV!
She just a student remember that… and there are also co discovers of the so called hiv Dr Montagnier and Dr Gallo who fails to convince people that hiv cause aids….Many people are hiv poz not on medication and are still alive…..
Does this girl live under a rock? So Pfizer getting reamed in court and order to pay 2.3 billion dollars for felony crimes including paying out kickbacks to doctors, and Merck’s Vioxx scandal are what? Huge misundestandings? And the scandal with Roche, the makers of Tamiflu- who hired a PR firm to ghost-write their studies and told their research … See Moreteam that no matter what they found, Tamiflu was to be “the anwer”? The fact that the American Cancer Society is the world’s wealthiest non-profit organization? Yeah, it’s totally ridiculous to think that Big Pharma has their hand in the billion-dollar AIDS cookie jar too because clearly so many people are just looking to help the public. I guess I’m too ignorant to see that.
Also, the least financially driven people I’VE ever encountered are volunteers. Just to put that out there…
there’re one way for silvia to put the seed of doubt in your head, ask yourself, “was my information sponsored by pharma industries?”, “Did Dr. Montagnier, studied HIV less than me?”, “Did Dr. Duesberg, Dr. Mullis and many others earned something to become dissidents?”… Try to give honest answer….
Silvia, “progression to AIDS” “Life saving” meds ? since you rely on the rhetorical creed of the Industry wouldn’t that make you at least part of the Industry? also, Silvia you use “AIDS” as if it’s a self proclaimed entity, in order for you to call me a denialist you must first prove to me that “AIDS” is anything other than a man made construct preferably by The CDC. bet you don’t know even know where the “word” denialist came from…majority rules in the church?
And hell, I could quote the whole ‘Perth Group’ letter, but my response would just be ‘Stupid.’ Plus I want you all to click over there and read all the sexist insane comments.
But I guess we can still blame this ‘bridge’ collapsing on Silvia for not being “a good communicator”. Her nice letter should have been nicer. Maybe in pink font with unicorns and lollipops in the background. And a a dancing teddy bear.
Couldnt be that HIV Deniers/Creationists/anti-vaxers are arrogant, ignorant, deadly fools.