An evening with AYAAN HIRSI ALI
October 27, 2011
7.30 pm
Te Ata Memorial Auditorium
Chickasha, OK




  1. #1 Prometheus
    September 29, 2011

    She is fantastic.

  2. #2 bobby
    September 29, 2011

    You simply assume that crazy people run around. As one, I assure you that is not very common.

  3. #3 Scented Nectar
    September 29, 2011

    Lucky you, she’s wonderful. 🙂

  4. #4 RRM
    September 29, 2011

    Good to see you like her too. I must admit though, because of what happened with her back here, I also feel a little sad/ashamed every time I hear something about her.

  5. #5 bibliovore
    September 29, 2011

    but but but … American Enterprise Institute?????


  6. #6 GregH
    September 29, 2011

    Very interesting story, thanks for posting it. The AEI connection is interesting – presumably they support her because they’re fundamentally opposed to Islam? On the other hand, I bet they’re not enthusiastic about publicly supporting Atheism. A land of contrasts, indeed.

  7. #7 cthellis
    September 29, 2011

    Are you excited?

  8. #8 Justicar
    September 29, 2011

    Keep all the noise down in here, kids! Sheesh. You’d think an honored and much sought after speaker were on her way here or something.

    Get off my lawn, you!

    *staresarnieintheteeth* you better make mommy take a digital camcorder and record it for us.

  9. #9 DavidByron
    September 29, 2011


  10. #10 0verlord
    September 30, 2011

    Aw, all the way in OK? Jealousy.

  11. #11 Neil Craig
    September 30, 2011

    The Greg Laden site on the string of related American sites called “Scienceblogs” is arguably the most prominent.

    Greg is a catastrophic warming supporter, which is his right. He censors opposing views or even questions put courteously which is his right because, as he explains its his site, though incompatible with any claim to “science”.

    He has claimed to be opposed to censorship. saying “Censorship is the second to last refuge of tyrants, the last is violence” (#23) a refreshingly liberal (in the true meaning of the term) viewpoint on “scienceblogs” where 9 sites, at last count, promote censorship. Rather than answer the 7 questions any climate alarmist should be able to easily answer if it is true, he simply censored them.

    Note that he does not delete ad homs or indeed obscenity, which are clearly, after all, the stock in trade of climate alarmist “scientists”, particularly those “peer reviewed and published in the finest journals” (#5) (although he did censor some criticisms made in return, neither ad hom nor remotely obscene since I don’t find that persuasive). Indeed, while censoring me, he recently passed a comment that I should be glad Greg hasn’t come round to my house and cut off my head which is the last argument he allegedly disapproves of.

    It is his choice to run his site that way. However he does worse than that.
    Greg has also claimed to be the sole scientist anywhere in the world who supports warming catastrophism and is not paid by the state. Not one single cent.

    He has also claimed to be a “climate scientist”.

    Indeed he has been given numerous opportunities to say the “misspoke” (a la Clinton), panicked or that the claim needs “clarifying” (a term often used by British politicians caught lying). He has, repeatedly, stood by his claim.


    Greg Laden is a Biological Anthropologist, studying human evolution, with degrees from Harvard University. He has taught at several universities, including Harvard and is currently a part time Assistant Professor at the University of Minnesota. He is an independent scholar who blogs at -/.

    Not a wise move when elsewhere claiming to be a climate scientist receiving not one cent from government. Though his “scienceblogs” bio is replete with “did I mention Harvard”‘s it is astonishingly less forthcoming about his present role as a part time assistant teacher at Minnesota U.

    University of Minnesota, Twin Cities (U of M) is a public research university and A public university is one that is predominantly funded by public means

    So the alleged only scientist anywhere in the world who supports warming catastrophism while receiving not a cent from the government is actually an assistant teacher of anthropology, largely or entirely paid by said government (at what I understand Americans call a “cow college” rather than Harvard).

    Laden has clearly, deliberately and continuously lied and if the entire “scienceblogs” site and anybody connected is not to it is not to be wholly discredited as not being in any way connected to scientific principles it is impossible he could remain on it.

    Knowing a little about anthropology in academe in Britain I can say that it is largely a matter of keeping ones tongue between the cheeks of those above you on the ladder while refusing to notice any scientific evidence which does not suit the politically correct paradigm (admittedly difficult to do otherwise in such a position). Rather than being a real science it is very much the sort of “science” Richard Feynman described in his “Cargo Cult Science” lecture.

    Perhaps American anthropology is totally different and a real science.

    Perhaps his interest in (and possible limited understanding of CAGW) is inspired by coworkers, friends and neighbours. I haven’t visited Minnesota and it may be a warm place with a large coastal area which would explain the local’s interest in the possible bad effects of warming. Indeed it must be so because pathetic as it is to lie on the subject it would be unbelievably pathetic to lie in a way that will not impress coworkers and neighbours.

  12. #12 GregH
    September 30, 2011

    Neil Craig! Dude, you’re an SF book shop owner in Glasgow. You have difficulty distinguishing between science fact and Science Fiction. You’re trying to start your own Scottish version of the Tea Party. You’re basically an out-of-control blogger with an inflated sense of your own self importance.

    Why do you think anyone is interested in your puerile rantings about how old Mr. Laden was mean to you? Oh yeah, see “inflated sense of self importance” above.

    As predicted, you’re trying to martyr yourself over your own self-created BS. Censorship! Here’s a hint: the usual next step for Internet nutters is to threaten someone with a lawsuit. Why don’t you just spare us all the hysterical verbiage and get straight to the threats? Save yourself and everyone else a lot of trouble. You know you’re going to get there sooner or later!

  13. #13 Mary
    September 30, 2011

    I’m jealous…but I do get to attend the FFRF conference next week…. I think jerry is collecting an award or something…?

  14. #14 Neil Craig
    October 1, 2011

    “an out-of-control blogger”

    Not the sort most on “scienceblogs2 want thjen.

    My point is that Greg Laden is completely and totally dishonest, a matter which appears undisputed, not least by himself. Consequently that it is impossible for “scienceblogs” to be in any way honest while promoting him – something which follows logically.

  15. #15 Miranda Celeste Hale
    October 1, 2011

    *swoon!* I’m jealous!

  16. #16 Ray, rude-ass yankee
    October 3, 2011

    Neil, meet killfile.

  17. #17 0verlord
    October 4, 2011

    Hahaha… My personal distaste for Person X means s/he should be blacklisted and demonized! Yeah, that’s real cool! I don’t like Greg Laden either, but you don’t see me doing that shit. Some people need to grow the hell up.

  18. #18 Tommykey
    October 4, 2011

    I got Ayaan to sign my copy of Infidel several years ago at a speaking gig she did here in NYC.

  19. #19 pornalysis
    October 4, 2011

    Late to this dialogue:

    I actually came to knowing about her in a biased manner, because Somali ppl I have known claimed they were related to her, and ‘disowned her’–which isn’t all bad,coming from some of the b.s. in that culture.

    What was the outcome of that kerfuffle about her lying to get elected, and maintain her citizenship over there?

  20. #20 Michael Kingsford Gray
    October 10, 2011

    Aayan did NOT lie “to get elected”.
    She was always, and has always been up-front about her lying in order to gain asylum from the very outset, and this was fully known well before she decided to stand for election.
    She was exonerated of these spurious charges by the Dutch government, but decided that she had had more than enough of their weak-kneed accommodationist attitudes toward Muslims and their extremism, so she sought refuge in the USA.
    Please check your facts before restating such old and thoroughly debunked claims.
    It is all documented history, should you care to actually read up on the subject.

  21. #21 pornalysis
    October 11, 2011

    MKG: “Please check your facts before restating such old and thoroughly debunked claims. It is all documented history”

    DOWN, BOY!! Down!

    I asked a question, not merely repeated a claim, and that in and of itself is acceptable, wouldn’t you agree? Re-reading the question, I do see where it could be misconstrued.

    In the world of getting sucked in to anyone’s cause or issues, or electing heroes and heroines, I prefer my information from a friend or associate before I form any opinion.

    And, as I have stated elsewhere, some who claimed her as relatives ( also practicing Muslims, or ‘modernized’ muslims)didn’t speak highly of her.

    Which Is why I asked. I also asked because in my memory, the information came to me at the height of 9/11 hysteria, and I necessarily left aside most debates about ‘Muslim’ issues.

    I specifically recall how inflamed certain associates of mine were at her video, and distanced myself entirely when Van Gogh was assassinated.

    I remember thinking how odd that anyone could be upset about words on a woman’s body; and then I realized that these same men I was sitting next to had likely never seen a woman’s body; their revulsion/ voyeuristic impulses were somewhat odd-and scary.

  22. #22 NDSGHRE
    October 17, 2011

    She is boss.

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