Gene Expression

Europeans don’t like diversity?

i-0ed493bd0d98a1aba266567cc8de5ea5-immigscatter.PNGDanny Pinkus points me to this post which points to a new paper examing public attitudes in Europe and the United States. They find that though overall attitudes toward immigration don’t vary much on either side of the Atlantic, Europeans tend to be less positively inclined toward cultural or religious diversity. Check the post & paper for details. To the left is a scatterplot which John Sides kindly produced upon request. It is interesting to point out that Americans and the French both come out as the least fixated on religious homogeneity despite the fact that among Western societies they come out at opposite ends in terms of secularism.

Comments

  1. #1 Luis
    April 3, 2008

    It is interesting to point out that Americans and the French both come out as the least fixated on religious homogeneity despite the fact that among Western societies they come out at opposite ends in terms of secularism.

    In the US, as long as you mention God all the time, it doesn’t matter which are your private beliefs; in France (and other places in Europe), as long as you don’t mention God all the time, it doesn’t matter which are your private beliefs.

    I suspect.

  2. #2 Lassi Hippeläinen
    April 4, 2008

    Many of us Europeans still live in countries where our ancestors lived a millennium ago. Our customs and traditions are old. You’ll notice that Greece is the oldest, and Catholic countries are more traditional tha Protestant ones.

    The Americans are mostly immigrants from a hundred countries, living in an environment that has lots of customs and traditions from foreign parts. Not so much to cling to.

  3. #3 razib
    April 4, 2008

    come now lassi, if you aren’t open to your daughter marrying a somali, converting to islam and being circumcised you are JUST A RACIST FUCK!

  4. #4 Kostya Puhov
    April 4, 2008

    In other words – Amiricans HAVE more diversity. The pucture reflects just this obvious fact. Lassi says exactly the same, as I can understand…

  5. #5 shlomo
    April 4, 2008

    Presumably, the Greek result is due to proximity to Turkey. Having a neighbour who is radically different to yourself tends to sharpen your own sense of identity.

  6. #6 Lassi Hippeläinen
    April 4, 2008

    Razib: “come now lassi, if you aren’t open to your daughter marrying a somali, converting to islam and being circumcised you are JUST A RACIST FUCK!”

    Luckily you Americans like diversity and wouldn’t object to that at all.

    One thing that always annoys me in these comparisons is that the US is treated as a single block. If the tests were carried out separately in California, Bible-belt, and New England, there would probably be as much diversity within the US as within Europe. Or even more.

  7. #7 kostya puhov
    April 4, 2008

    probably the answers may differ when the immigration to the particular neighborhoud (in extreme case – neighboring home) is in question:)
    The country isn’t the elementary unit of space.
    It’s interesting to get the numbers for immigration into the state(e.g.) and then calculate a mean for US. Should differ.
    Then we may assume that the size and territorial diversity counts:) Which is fogging the ‘real’ sence of the numbers.
    as it happens constantly with the statistics – the things we wish to know are not the things we can measure:(

  8. #8 kostya puhov
    April 4, 2008

    This time i mean something different than Lassi, i.e. a person from Wisconsin and her/his concerns about latinos in NY.
    Sometimes it means he doesn’t care, sometimes it means quite opposite.
    The greatest concentration of Blacks in Moscow is just in a mile from my home.
    Ppl see the blacks as… people (sometimes afraid them). Seems like ideologized agressive racists grew in other parts of the city/country and know about Blacks mainly through movies/TV.

  9. #9 Zip
    April 4, 2008

    Greeks have an eastern mentality and are very similar to Turks.
    In nationalism too. All that fuss over the word Macedonia.

  10. #10 TheMonkeyMan
    April 4, 2008

    I think Jussi may be onto something regarding different parts of America, but those are certainly interesting results. I also wonder where Canada would come into this?

  11. #11 kostya puhov
    April 5, 2008

    I’ve lost a post.
    ‘this time’ – it was a remark about this:
    The answers may differ regarding immigrants into your neighbourhood.
    So it’s interesting to get the numbers for the each particular American state (concerning immifration yo this state), and then calculate a mean for US.
    the results may differ.
    So, the size (of the country) does matter, as well as it’s territirial diversity.

  12. #12 dude
    April 10, 2008

    I think it is a case of Greeks thinking before answering. To say that Americans or French respect diversity more than Greeks is laughable. Americans pay lip services to diversity then go arrest Mormons practicing polygamy.

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