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Updates on the War on Christmas and Other Matters

Posted on: December 18, 2007 5:00 PM, by Greg Laden

How much influence to key religious leaders have in the White House?; Is Borders Books insensitive to Christians?: What are the Western Colorado Atheists up to?


White House told to detail Christian leader visits

A U.S. judge ordered the Secret Service on Monday to disclose records of visits by nine prominent conservative Christian leaders to the White House and Vice President Dick Cheney's residence.

The ruling, in response to a legal watchdog group's suit, could shed light on the influence leaders like James Dobson of Focus on the Family have had on President George W. Bush's administration. It may also affect legal efforts to force the release of visiting records of convicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff and other similar cases.

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O Come All Ye Faithless
Border's Books has among their collection of holiday paraphernalia (which is mostly Christian, at least at our local Borders) has a "O come all ye faithless" card for sale, and it is annoying some Christians.

Rev Jonathan Edwards, general secretary of the Baptist Union of Great Britain said the idea was "crass".

He said, "I am quite sure that Borders intended their Christmas card as a joke. However, I personally find it an ill-judged and insensitive joke," reports Baptist Times.

He continued by saying, "Christians have always been used to being punch bags but I would have hoped that, in a society in which we are seeking to show respect to all people and beliefs, we might have grown out of this kind of nonsense."

Punching bags indeed. Read the story on christiantoday.com



An Interview With Danny Cackler

Danny Cackler is a founding member of the Western Colorado Atheists in Grand Junction, CO. Recently, the group built and displayed a pro-Atheist Display in the Free Speech area of a local Grand Junction library. The display has garnered significant local attention, and has been mentioned nationally.

... Interesting interview, worth the read.


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On the Border's item, I left a comment on christiantoday.com pointing out that "Oh come all ye faithless" could be seen as an invitation to atheists to join christians in the welcoming spirit of the season and that only those insecure in their faith would see it as an insult.

Posted by: Ex-drone | December 18, 2007 10:54 PM

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