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Science Debate Two Thousand Eight in Business Week

Posted on: February 10, 2008 7:15 PM, by Greg Laden

Science Debate 2008 got a writeup in Business Week.

When most of the Republican candidates for President proclaimed that they did not believe in evolution during a debate last year, astrophysicist Lawrence Krauss was one of many who were aghast. The Case Western University professor and best-selling author was even more upset when former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee shrugged off concerns, saying that he was running for President, not writing a middle-school curriculum. "How could being scientifically illiterate be perfectly acceptable?" Krauss asks. "No one would accept a candidate who, say, denied the Holocaust."

Instead of just fuming, Krauss seized on an idea then being proposed by screenwriter/director Matthew Chapman to stage a Presidential campaign debate focused on science....



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And we can't forget that Minnesota has a strong connection to the ScienceDebate 2008. Shawn Lawrence Otto (who adapted the screenplay for House of Sand and Fog is also on the steering committee. He is married to our State Auditor, Rebecca Otto.

Here is the piece he wrote for MinnPost.com on the Science Debate.

I think it is a great idea to push for, and I personally think it will nail John McCain because he won't be able to weasel in favor of the Creationists without looking like an utter fool. Of course, that is not the purpose of ScienceDebate 2008, and it may mean that he will try to avoid it.

Crap. Now I have scared all of the Republicans who support it.

Posted by: Mike Haubrich, FCD | February 10, 2008 10:34 PM

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For A Scientism Culture


* Scientism = a doctrine and method characteristic of pre-Technology-Culture-Era scientists, and the proposition that classical scientific doctrine and methods of studying natural sciences should be used in all areas of investigation and of conduct, to societal-cultural-civil affairs. An approach by rational humans seeking an efficient practical, as fair as possible, viable civic framework.

* All politics, local, national and international, are about evolutionary biology, about Darwinian evolution, about survival, about obtaining and maintaining and distributing energy.


A. See "ScienceDebate.Org"
http://www.sciencedebate.org/www/index.php

B. Now "Science Debate Goes International"
News Release June 11, 2010
http://www.sciencedebate.org/www/index.php?id=76

Science Debate cofounder Shawn Lawrence Otto will speak at the EuroScience Open Forum in Torino, Italy on July 7. Otto will be a panelist on the plenary session "The missing mediator: Science debates in a knowledge based society," and will tell the European science audience about science in American policymaking and media.

C. My misgivings about ScienceDebate.Org for science in government and media

1) From e-mail May 2009 to ScienceDebate:

IMO the AAAS has turned science and the science-organizations-establishments into essentially an American, plus some international, guild-union of employees in technology-related industries, academies and organizations, and has turned science into a "popular religion" in the service of the 20th century Technology Culture. It has turned peer review into a tool of corrupt “subversive activities control board”, where the corruption is not inherent in the tool, but in the nature of the science establishment and in the characteristics of its obsequious functionaries.

The disappointment with the science establishment is much deeper. Even you, the team of ScienceDebate, have not asked yourselves where were the scientists (what-who are they?) during the years in which the Technology Culture has been reigning supreme and has been evolving into its recent collapse. Even you apparently think that the science establishment had-has no share whatsoever in the evolution of the collapse. "Scientists" (what-who are they?) selfrighteously think that increase of "science-technology budget" is essential for repairing the present collapse and posit that this and similar collapses can be prevented if THEIR budgets were higher.

The disappointment is that the science establishment has not examined its own contribution to the collapse, its own 100-years continuous deterioration into a servent of the Technology Culture, and into the ludicruos high self-esteem image that it rightly earned and projects today.

2) "Prsdnt Obama Should Consider An Overdue Introspection"
May 26 2009
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtopic=14988&st=495

3) Science and scientism are relevant and involved in ALL aspects of national and international culture and life and thus in all political policies. The call for a scientism culture, for a rational efficient practical, as fair as possible, viable civic framework culture, should come from the people by the people for the people. IMO ScienceDebate calls from the technology-science establishment by the technology-science establishment to persuade the people to go on living with the present technology culture with the present technology-science establishment.

Science, the historical promise and hope for human enlightenment, is not what it used to be prior to having been overrun by the Technology Culture.


Dov Henis
(Comments From The 22nd Century)
03.2010 Updated Life Manifest
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/posts/list/54.page#5065
Cosmic Evolution Simplified
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/posts/list/240/122.page#4427
"Gravity Is The Monotheism Of The Cosmos"
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/posts/list/260/122.page#4887

Posted by: Dov Henis | June 16, 2010 2:35 PM

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