PZ Myers Expelled, Gains Sainthood

As you have undoubtedly heard, a group of evolutionary biologists and evolutionary biology supporters attended a showing of the movie Expelled, in the Twin Cities, last night. This group included the very famous Richard Dawkins and the only slightly less famous PZ Myers. PZ and Richard, in fact, were together in line, along with PZ’s spouse, a daughter, and a future son in law. Other evolution supporters and at least one local evolutionary-type blogger were also in line.

While waiting in line and minding their own business, PZ was spotted by the Expelled! production staff, and EXPELLED from the theater!!!! Richard Dawkins and the others were not picked up by this anti-truth security dragnet, and were able to attend the show.

So we have this:

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vs this:

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This could not have gone better if Myers and Dawkins had planned it. This absurd move on the part of Expelled producers, along with various internet accounts by Creationist Christian Yahoos that give patently false descriptions of the event, belie the deeply smarmy nature of American Creationist Cultism.

Later that evening, a film was made in a Minneapolis Hotel Room, staring PZ Myers and Richard Dawkins. By all accounts, this film is much better produced than Expelled!. The film can be seen here.

The internet is abuzz with this event. The following is a list of all of the posts I know of on the internet about this event. If you feel that I am missing something, email me!

Dawkins has written a review of the film, calle Lying for Jesus?

The entries below include eye witness accounts of the event, news coverage in major outlets including the New York Times, and blog commentary. I have not included creationist apologist posts. Sorry, not on my blog! (But there is really very little of that out there, amazingly).

Enjoy!

Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed

New York Times Coverage of the PZ Expulsion: No Admission for Evolutionary Biologist at Creationist Film
The Protest Ben Stein’s Expelled Face Book Group
Salon: Expel, expelling, expelled!
Greg Laden Has all of the ExpelledGate Links
On Richard Dawkins Net: Discussion on PZ Myers being expelled from Expelled
TwinCities.com: Biology prof expelled from screening of ‘Expelled’
IT’S IN THE COMICS!
Should Dawkins have been Expelled?
the expelled chronicles
Wikipedia Entry
Myers, Dawkins and Popcorn…& LOLTrilobites!
Genie Scott On PZ’s Expulsion
Irony
Atheists From All Over the Country, And I’m Not There?
Just in time for Easter
Anti-evolutionists throw a biologist out of film showing
Mark Mathis a liar? How so?! EYEWITNESS ACCOUNT
PZ Myers: EXPELLED!
Expelled and Reduction ad Hitlerum
PZ Myers: A late night quick one
Dawkins Crashes Expelled Party
EXPELLED from “Expelled”!
THOSE FASCIST FUCKS THREW PZ OUT OF THE THEATRE RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME!
PZ Expelled from Expelled
Myers Throws Self on Hand Grenade, Saves Evolutionary Biologist
On the list of the singularly most ridiculous things that have ever happened…
Irony is alive
I guess they’re not going to invite him to the premiere
Rabble Rousing Evolutionist Expelled From Theater
PZ gets expelled … and gets the last laugh.
P.Z. Expelled!, Dawkins in…
Too stupid for words
Excretion
Yeah, that’s gonna leave a mark.
Ridiculous Demented Right-Wing Wackaloon Theocratic Douchemonkeys Fuck Up Big Time.
On Richard Dawkins Net
PZ Myers gets Expelled
On Talk Origins.
Casual Fridays: Can YOU recognize Richard Dawkins?
Saint PZ?
Expelled Flunked: An Own Goal
Creationism, evolution, and Nazis. Yes, Nazis.
Evolution teacher expelled from creationist movie
Ben Stein vs. PZ
Expelled from ‘Expelled’
Priceless
Creationists Need to Evolve ‘Smart’ Intelligent Design
Expelled From Expelled
The Expelled Controversy
ID Stands for Intellectual Dishonesty
Monty Python guards Expelled.
ID = Intelligent Design = Intentional Dishonesty.
Verily the Lord Atheos sayeth unto yee…
Skatje Myers: I suppose it’s due
Well that’s gratitude for you
Expelled! The Movie To Be Pulled From Theaters Following Myers Dawkins-Gate Screwup
PZ Has Been Expelled: Smear Campaign to Follow
Florida Citizens for Science: Expelled incompetence
Pharyngula gets creationist movie boot and lies
Scientist ‘Expelled’ From Intelligent Design Movie
PZ was expelled from Expelled.
Historic Mall is Burning into the Night
Skeptic Friends Network
Still straining to find an excuse
PZ and Dawkins the “gatecrashers”
Pharyngula gets creationist movie boot plus lies
Bear Stearns isn’t the Only Bankrupt Thing These Days
Dawkins and PZ on Expelled
And the never ending freak show just goes on and on and on…
OMFSM! The Expelling of PZ from Expelled Hits the NYT
PZ Gets Expelled and Wins teh Internets!
Rock Star Biologist — University Tour 2008, or How I Got to Meet Richard Dawkins
Silly Creationists, The Trick’s On You
Sandwalk: PZ Myers and Richard Dawkins Discuss “EXPELLED”
“Intelligent Design” has NOTHING to do with religion – nope – all science!
Dawkins and Myers on Being Expelled
Things that make me smile, Saturday edition, part 1: Creationists shooting themselves in the foot
Did you forget that other scandal?
Expelled: FAIL!
Intelligent Design Movie Is Not for Heathens
Oh, no! My most subtle asset, exposed!
This Controversy HELPS Ben Stein, People
LES CRÉATIONISTES NE VEULENT PAS QUE DES OPPOSANTS VOIENT LEURS FILMS
Ooops….

Der Schöpfung die Krone aufgesetzt

In which the intelligent design movement takes careful aim, and blows both feet off.

Win Ben Stein Some Brains!

WCCO News: Man Interviewed In Movie, Not Allowed To See It

Godwin’s Law Never Fails
The Expelled Controversy
Diaphanitas’ links
PZ Myers gets “Expelled” from Intelligent Design movie
God is Dead Day
Infidel Guy Radio forum
Expelled from Expelled… But that’s not the best part
Blogger gets expelled from Expelled
So what does Dawkins think of “Expelled”
Expelled creators only want some people to preview it

Bruce Chapman is a liar
Expelled in Tempe …
WAAR ZIJN CREATIONISTEN TOCH ZO BANG VOOR? EXPELLED FROM EXPELLED
In case you missed the story

Sheer Beauty

The Spin Begins
They Expelling the Wrong Person!
the expelled from “expelled” story
EvolutionNews.org caught lying out its ass. Again.
Cdesign proponentsists lying? No never!
The Expelled Police: Not the brightest bulbs
Creationists kind of miss the point… LOL!!!

Comments

  1. #1 J Daley
    March 21, 2008

    Jeebus, but that tickles the cockles.

  2. #3 Wade
    March 21, 2008

    Jeffrey Overstreet wrote a couple of blog entries at http://artsandfaith.com/index.php?showtopic=16419&hl= about his story. Here is a quote from one about the comments being left at PZ’s site;
    “You haven’t seen the posts I’ve deleted. I’m getting buried in messages that read like they’ve been written by the Uruk-Hai. Check out the tone of the comments on this page. I mean, I’m all for comments and discussion, but those folks have all the dignity of a gang of playground bullies.”

  3. #4 Wade
    March 21, 2008

    Jeffrey Overstreet wrote a couple of blog entries at http://artsandfaith.com/index.php?showtopic=16419&hl= about his story. Here is a quote from one about the comments being left at PZ’s site;
    “You haven’t seen the posts I’ve deleted. I’m getting buried in messages that read like they’ve been written by the Uruk-Hai. Check out the tone of the comments on this page. I mean, I’m all for comments and discussion, but those folks have all the dignity of a gang of playground bullies.”

  4. #6 wade
    March 21, 2008

    Sorry about the double post, I had a Server Timed Out message, so I simply reposted without checking.

  5. #7 Hugh
    March 21, 2008

    I’ve got a post up sending readers PZ’s way for this incredible story. Under the headline Creationism Update: Evicting the Bathwater Dept.

    it’s all so astonishingly fitting…

  6. #8 Ed Darrell
    March 21, 2008

    How would it be possible to top P.Z.’s post? I just linked:
    http://timpanogos.wordpress.com/2008/03/20/evolution-teacher-expelled-from-creationist-movie/

  7. I have written a new post about this, because I feel very strongly about the movie spreading the lie about evolution and Nazis.

  8. #10 pluky
    March 21, 2008

    By the way, James Walcott at Vanity Fair thinks the whole episode is delightful.

  9. #12 Virgil Samms
    March 21, 2008

    Jeffrey Overstreet wrote a couple of blog entries at..

    Don’t you find Overstreet’s standard of fairness commendable? After numerous commenters pointed out Stuart Blessman’s own words are contradictory, so that he is most certainly not being entirely truthful, Overstreet dismisses these as “opinions” of people who have “faith” because they were not present themselves.

  10. #13 Sophist FCD
    March 21, 2008

    Really? I heard that it was just a Beatification.

  11. #14 Seamyst
    March 21, 2008

    Someone (not me) made an amusing lolscience macro:

    Click here!

  12. #15 micketymoc
    March 21, 2008

    I blogged on it here.

  13. #16 Adam Cuerden
    March 21, 2008

    And… we have newspaper coverage: http://www.twincities.com/ci_8653837

  14. #17 The Science Pundit
    March 21, 2008

    I just ran across this gem of a comic. :-D

  15. #18 zooey
    March 21, 2008

    In case you haven’t seen, the story is in NYT now:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/21/science/21expelledw.html

  16. #19 Ken
    March 21, 2008

    And this is my post: Should Dawkins have been Expelled?

  17. #20 Blake Stacey
    March 21, 2008

    In case it gets missed, here is Genie Scott, in the Pharyngula comments:

    Well, PZ, at least you got registered and accepted for the program.

    I registered for the local East Bay showing (site unannounced) more than three weeks ago, and received my automated reply on February 28 saying I would be emailed “a confirmation once the screening is confirmed”.

    They now know the screening will be in Danville. The web page says the Danville screening is “full”, yet others I know received confirmations weeks ago, while my inbox remains empty.

    I fear I have been *pre*Expelled!

    Does anyone who is confirmed for Danville want to take me as a guest? I assure you, I am very well behaved. I am a mild-mannered, gray-haired lady who like PZ is “Minnesota nice.”

    But I *would* like to know why Mark Mathis told both of us a month after Premise Media secured the domain name “www.expelledthemovie.com” that the name of the movie was “Crossroads.” Was Premise lying to Mark or was Mark lying to us?

  18. #22 Brandon
    March 21, 2008

    Florida Citizens for Science blog post “Expelled incompetence”:
    http://www.flascience.org/wp/?p=510

  19. #23 Qidam
    March 21, 2008

    http://www.evolutionnews.org/2008/03/richard_dawkins_worlds_most_fa.html#more

    There is a growing fear by the producers that Darwinists may be trying get into the showings to make bootleg copies (for the Web?), possibly in hopes of damaging the commercial value. Others may be crashing because they want to trash it before it even gets reviewed by the media. P.Z. Myers, who was not let into a showing last night in Minnesota, probably falls in the latter category.

    Amazingly, the best selling Oxford scientist/author Richard Dawkins also crashed a showing of Expelled in Minnesota last night and he not only was let in, but introduced at the end of the showing.

    Dawkins apparently acknowledged that he had not been invited and did not have a ticket. A sophomoric side to his ideological campaign is thus revealed.

    Paranoia and projection, not a pretty combination

  20. #24 Reed
    March 21, 2008
  21. #26 Hank Fox
    March 21, 2008

    Did you get this one?

    http://www.twincities.com/allheadlines/ci_8653837?nclick_check=1

    TwinCities.com: Biology prof expelled from screening of ‘Expelled’

  22. #27 Harold
    March 22, 2008

    I did a post on my site. Now all the people who come there doing searches on terms like “headless rabbit” and “cathy baker hee haw” can be enlightened about P.Z. Myers being expelled from Expelled!

    http://anothermonkey.blogspot.com/2008/03/just-in-time-for-easter.html

  23. #28 Dr Benway
    March 22, 2008

    We have claimed territory on the Wikipedia “Irony” page, with a definition of “breaking the irony meter.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony

    To secure this bit of the memeplex, do mention, if so moved, when your irony meter has been overloaded, broken, exploded, etc.

  24. #29 Bob O'H
    March 22, 2008

    Like Ed Darrell, I thought little more was needed than a link. I just had to give a bit of context first:

    Expelled, The Irony

  25. #32 Russell Blackford
    March 22, 2008

    I came in on this late, but for what it’s worth:

    http://metamagician3000.blogspot.com/2008/03/myers-expelled-from-expelled.html

  26. #33 Greg Laden
    March 22, 2008

    Keep them coming, I’ll keep checking this and my email and updating regularly.

    In a day or two, I’ll reformat this mess and make it all pretty, alphabetical, whatever seems appropriate.

    I don’t understand why the Wikipedia entry on the movie refers only to these wishy wishy press pieces, and not to any of the first hand accounts on the internet, or to this compendium of links!!!

    There are Irony people at Wikipedia who do not want Expelled in the entry. Somebody has to go back and put it in, right? Is that how it workrs?

    But hey, don’t make trouble. If the police grab you just GO LIMP GO LIMP… You’ve all had your training, REMEMBER YOUR TRAINING.

    A wet rag in a plastic bag for the tear gas. It won’t help but it will make you feel better. Be aware of which way the wind is blowing. If you hear pops or explosions, don’t go away from the sound but rather, go into the wind.

    (It is all coming back….)

  27. #34 Adrian Thysse
    March 22, 2008

    A foreigner’s brief review of “Expelled” shenanigans….

  28. #36 Susan Brown
    March 22, 2008

    I’ve posted a couple of entries:

    (or you could just click on my name below to see all at once)

    http://sbrownblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/omfsm-expelling-of-pz-from-expelled.html

    http://sbrownblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/pz-gets-expelled-and-wins-teh-internets.html

    http://sbrownblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/rock-star-biologist-university-tour.html

    including my experiences at the Center for Inquiry reception with Dawkins in Austin the evening before he was in Minneapolis. Dawkins used my paper in his speech ;)

  29. #37 The Flying Trilobite
    March 22, 2008

    It’s not the great American novel, but here’s where I chuckle.

  30. #40 Physicalist
    March 22, 2008

    There’s an account at Libertes Internets that’s worth including. (I don’t see it above, but perhaps I missed it.) It isn’t entirely clear to me who the author is (I don’t know the site, CalGeorge linked to it in Pharyngula comments). It lists “Tim Carr – IES News Service Chicago – 22/03/2008″ at the beginning, which makes me wonder whether this might be French translation of an article in English???

  31. #41 RBH
    March 22, 2008

    Russell Blackford has a thought commentary here:
    http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/comments/2349/

  32. #42 Monado, FCD
    March 22, 2008

    Hmmm, you seem to have missed mine. I caught PZ’s post while the movie was still on (Comment 45), laughed out loud several times, and got down to blogging: “Expelled FAIL!

  33. #43 jjberg
    March 22, 2008

    Me too! Me too!

    Godwin’s Law Never Fails

  34. #44 Ian Andreas Miller
    March 22, 2008

    I’m collecting other links:
    http://diaphanus.livejournal.com/871071.html

  35. #45 Greg Laden
    March 22, 2008

    Ian,

    I’ve added some of yours.

  36. #46 wheatdogg
    March 22, 2008

    I’ll toot my own horn.

  37. #48 Michael X
    March 23, 2008

    I couldn’t finish PhysioProfs post. How one makes this topic unreadable is an achievement in itself.

  38. #49 C. L. Hanson
    March 23, 2008

    Joining the wave, here’s mine.

  39. #50 Cephus
    March 23, 2008

    I’ve done a couple of pieces on Expelled, although just how much can you flog a dead horse, but my piece on this story is at:

    http://bitchspot.jadedragononline.com/?p=222

  40. #51 Dan Green
    March 23, 2008

    Keep flogging the dead horse. Here’s the post I did on the subject:
    http://dangblog.wordpress.com/2008/03/21/the-expelled-from-expelled-story/

  41. #52 Thomas S. Howard
    March 23, 2008

    I took the liberty of upgrading the LOLDawkins posted to Myers’ Expelled thread:

    http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/3/23/128508027995000000.jpg

    also here, but larger:

    http://profile.imageshack.us/user/didymos/images/detail/#186/lolexpelledpz0.jpg

  42. #53 Matt
    March 23, 2008

    And here are my two.
    The first, covering pretty much the whole Expelled silliness:
    http://mattcbr.wordpress.com/2008/03/21/expelled-no-intelligence-allowed-why-its-a-load-of-bunk/

    The second a response to EvolutionNews.org’s lying out it’s ass.
    http://mattcbr.wordpress.com/2008/03/23/evolutionnewsorg-caught-lying-out-its-ass-again/

  43. #55 Monado, FCD
    March 24, 2008

    You know you’ve made it when your irony explosion gets picked up on BookCrossing chat forums: Creationists kind of miss the point–LOL. The start of thread quotes Prof. Myers’ original post and there are more than 90 responses.

    Here’s the link in clear:
    http://www.bookcrossing.com/forum/5/5248874/94

  44. #56 RBH
    March 24, 2008

    New Scientist has a review of Expelled.. Money quote:

    Throughout the entire experience, Maggie and I couldn’t help feeling that the polarised audience in the theater was a sort of microcosm of America, and let me tell you – it’s a scary place. I also couldn’t help thinking that the intelligent design folks aren’t being silenced, so much as they’re being silent. Because when it comes to actually explaining anything, they’ve got nothing to say.

    The whole review is well worth reading.

  45. #57 Patrick McComb
    March 24, 2008

    Here is my (fairly detailed) post at Science Reporting blog:
    http://sciencereporting.blogspot.com/2008/03/pz-id-and-bs.html

  46. #58 James McGrath
    March 25, 2008

    I have a collection of links to blog posts on this topic on my own blog as well, which includes some reactions from religion scholars, theologians and other such sources.

  47. #59 Mark Perakh
    March 25, 2008

    You may add to the list the post at Talk Reason at http://www.talkreason.org/articles/expelled.cfm . TalkReason is not a blog but rather an archive, but this story was too funny not to be reacted to.

  48. #61 Susan Brown
    March 26, 2008

    There was an “Expelled Contest” to see who could come up with the greatest persecution story; however, it has been closed down between yesterday afternoon and this morning.

    http://sbrownblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/expelled-contest.html

  49. #62 Susan Brown
    March 26, 2008

    There was an “Expelled Contest” to see who could come up with the greatest persecution story; however, it has been closed down between yesterday afternoon and this morning.

    http://sbrownblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/expelled-contest.html

  50. #63 NP
    March 26, 2008

    http://unintelligencedispelled.blogspot.com/

    Just a brief coverage of the incident, but will be updating with more news and opinion pieces on ID and the buzz created by Expelled.

  51. #64 rebb
    March 26, 2008

    here is my contribution
    http://www.biolaw.blogspot.com

  52. #65 nerdiah
    March 28, 2008

    I’ve written a post trying to keep track of all of the different contradictory stories coming from the ID crowd about this incident. It’s here: Expelled movie public-relations definitely not intelligently designed. Submissions welcome!

  53. #66 themadlolscientist
    March 29, 2008

    John Patterson, film reviewer for The Guardian, wrote yesterday:

    “The actor Ben Stein has switched from TV comedy, where his talents really lie, to political apologias, where his talents simply die….”

    A step to the right

  54. #67 themadlolscientist
    March 29, 2008

    Monkey Trials: Atheism’s Jay Leno?

    OK, so my previous entry wasn’t about Expelledgate – but it’s nice to see that our friends across the pond are picking up on the ridiculousness of the movie and BS’s appearance in it.

  55. #68 themadlolscientist
    March 29, 2008

    Monkey Trials: Atheism’s Jay Leno?

    OK, so my previous entry wasn’t about Expelledgate – but it’s nice to see that our friends across the pond are picking up on the ridiculousness of the movie and BS’s appearance in it.

  56. #69 themadlolscientist
    March 30, 2008

    Sorry about the double hit. Firefox choked on me. :-\

  57. #70 Monado, FCD
    March 31, 2008

    Here’s another link: “Irony/hypocrisy/funny.”

  58. #71 HiEv
    April 3, 2008

    The Skepticality podcast #074 for 4/1/’08 includes interviews with Richard Dawkins and Michael Shermer about Expelled:

    http://www.skepticality.com/index.php

    The link to the show will eventually be here:

    http://www.skepticality.com/sn_Ep74.html

    Enjoy!

  59. #72 Michael
    April 12, 2008

    I have seen some blogs which were claiming a lawsuit against the production company of “Expelled” for animation copyrights infringement…lol…Of course these allegations are not true, and finally the “Expelled” site responded by saying…

    “Questions have been raised about the origination of some of the animation used in our movie EXPELLED: No Intelligence Allowed. Claims that we have used any animation in an unauthorized manner are simply false. Premise Media created the animation that illustrates cellular activity used in our film.”

  60. #73 Douglas W page
    April 15, 2008

    I read your comments about Dawkins sneaking in and Meyers being expelled.Seems to me that someone like yourself should be intelligent enough to know the difference between an invite only prescreening and the normal pay to view.It is not only unethical to crash a party,os to sneak into an invite only event uninvited,but it is also tresspassing.If these two were to pay to get in,they would be as welcome as anyone else.So top call the Expelled croud hypocrits,is either incredibly stupid.(which i doubt you are,a bit misguided maybe.)Or you,like so many othersare willing to lie through your teeth to demonize othere who disagree with you.It’s not that you are stupid,just morally bankrupt.
    Unlike your crowd,the ID crowd is not trying to silence anybody,just be allowd to pose questions,and have all reasonable possibilities open for free thinkers to be able to weigh all of the evidence,and make up their own minds.

    It has been evident that the fascists in this country are not the religious right,or even agnostics,But the athiests who have been forcing their views down everyones throats for the past 40 or 50 years,any way they can,specifically by silencing any opposing views.and of course,by arrogantly insinuating that those who disagree are simply not as intellegent,or somehow mentally ill.

    If the case for Darwinism is so strong,Then why is there a need to silence any opposing positions?unless you believe that the average person is not intellegent enough to understand science,in which case,you are not only arrogant,but bigoted.

  61. #74 Serena
    April 15, 2008

    Douglas,
    Myers did not try to sneak in. You must not have heard that there was no fee for entrance to the event from which Myers was Expelled. It was not invite-only. Individuals were able to sign up in advance, which Myers did. His being asked to leave had nothing to do with crashing a party or trying to get in without paying.
    Sheesh. You don’t know what you’re talking about!

  62. #75 Greg Laden
    April 15, 2008

    .. what she said …

  63. #76 the real cmf
    April 15, 2008

    is it really “unethical to crash a party”? what if I bring some really good weed?

  64. #77 Napoleon MacKinnon
    April 15, 2008

    Douglass: “of course,by arrogantly insinuating that those who disagree are simply not as intellegent,or somehow mentally ill.”

    Douglass, have you also noticed a trend amongst the left leaners to bash the mentally ill? I think it would be meritorious to parse through some of the more left blogs and find that in fact their IS a trend in that direction–despite railings against those who stand accused of homofobia, massagerists,rascists, and anti-feminiSS, it appears it is still acceptable to deride the mentally ill, especially at PZ’s blog( just read through the comments–they are generally rabidly insensitive to the mentally ill)…

  65. #78 Andrew
    April 15, 2008

    Doug,

    It is true that many people were sent information about how to sign up for this showing, and PZ Myers and his family, as well as Richard Dawkins, all signed up the way they were supposed to.

    It happens that the producer of the film recognized PZ and tossed him out of the theater.

    Your side did something really awful. Deal.

  66. #79 Elizabeth
    April 15, 2008

    “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor”

    Douglas, you have sinned. Go to confession.

  67. #80 Master Mahan
    April 15, 2008

    Wait, so if this showing was invite-only as you claim, how exactly did Myers’ name end up on the admissions list? How did he get tickets?

    Actually, Douglass, forget those. I only have one question I’d really like you to answer. Are you really deluded enough to believe what you’re saying, or do know how patently false it is.

    I’ll admit, though, I wasn’t aware of the existence of massagerists. Napoleon, could you provide any links on these anti-massage crusaders to satisfy my curiousity?

  68. #81 ihedenius
    April 16, 2008

    Kevin Miller apologized to PZ Myers (for accusing him of ‘gatecrashing’) on the 21 march. I’ve seen this get very little play in the blogosphere but it seems significant to me. Kevin Miller as the writer of Expelled is inside the ‘expelled camp’. If Mathis and others has kept on stating PZ ‘gatecrashed’ since the 21 March this suggest they could’ve/should’ve known different.

    Direct link:
    http://kevinwrites.typepad.com/otherwise_known_as_kevin_/2008/03/i-repent.html

    He preannonunced it here:
    http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=14;t=5152;st=660#entry101294

    [quote]


    When I first heard what went down at the Minneapolis screening, I understood that PZ Myers and Richard Dawkins had attempted to sneak in under false pretenses and that PZ got caught. However, PZ claims to have followed the proper procedure–registering under his own name, not packing a video camera, etc.–and I believe him. (I have no idea if Dawkins did the same.) I also understood that the screening was by invitation only. I did not realize that there was an online form for people to sign up and reserve a spot. (I’m the writer, so I’m not really privy to the marketing side of things.) So if PZ followed the correct procedures, why was he still kicked out? I’ll let the producers of Expelled speak to that–which they will do shortly. And trust me, it’s not because they were afraid of him.

    As for me, I would like to apologize to PZ for the misinformation on my blog.


    [/quote]

  69. #82 Napoleon MacKinnon
    April 16, 2008

    Mahan: Try http://www.feministing.com
    a place where all good touch is bad touch, and they are out of touch… massages AND masseuserists are despised there especially if they are male; they are a place where all touch is bad unless it is invasive, boundary crossing, and and maternal( but with a long talk afterwards), or disciplinary–from the closeted womens gym class teacher for example…

  70. #83 Doug Baker
    June 24, 2008

    Odd, you’d think Expelled!’s producers would want the press that those two would have generated, and even have had cameras on hand to record it themselves. Something’s clearly not being said, whether or not it’s duplicitous and malicious.

  71. #84 msn sozleri
    November 4, 2008

    Perhaps the guest list got loaded by practical jokers? It was a web sign-up after all. What sort of verification was put into this? Check on a throw-away email address?
    Ameritania Hotel New York

    I could easily see the guy vetting the list …

    “We’ve got 21 ‘Charles Darwins’ msn nickleri
    and 15 ‘Thomas Huxleys’. And look, 5 ‘Richard Dawkins’. I removed all I found – I just hope one didn’t slip by.”

  72. #85 Darren
    April 4, 2009

    I find it more amusing the amount of time used and wasted getting all worked up over a movie.

    In a sense Expelled has proven one thing, that the people opposed to any mention of Intelligent Design are rabid in their convictions.

    Simply amazing… Must have evolution all figured out with all this free time eh?

  73. #86 so4mp3
    March 23, 2010

    Odd, you’d think Expelled!’s producers would want the press that those two would have generated, and even have had cameras on hand to record it themselves. Something’s clearly not being said, whether or not it’s duplicitous and malicious

  74. #87 so4pro
    March 23, 2010

    Douglass: “of course,by arrogantly insinuating that those who disagree are simply not as intellegent,or somehow mentally ill.”

    Douglass, have you also noticed a trend amongst the left leaners to bash the mentally ill? I think it would be meritorious to parse through some of the more left blogs and find that in fact their IS a trend in that direction–despite railings against those who stand accused of homofobia, massagerists,rascists, and anti-feminiSS, it appears it is still acceptable to deride the mentally ill, especially at PZ’s blog( just read through the comments–they are generally rabidly insensitive to the mentally ill)…

  75. #88 so4mp3
    January 24, 2011

    Douglass: “of course,by arrogantly insinuating that those who disagree are simply not as intellegent,or somehow mentally ill.”

    Douglass, have you also noticed a trend amongst the left leaners to bash the mentally ill? I think it would be meritorious to parse through some of the more left blogs and find that in fact their IS a trend in that direction–despite railings against those who stand accused of homofobia, massagerists,rascists, and anti-feminiSS, it appears it is still acceptable to deride the mentally ill, especially at PZ’s blog( just read through the comments–they are generally rabidly insensitive to the mentally ill)…

    +1

  76. #89 rlquinn1980
    March 11, 2011

    I don’t know if you’re still updating this page (I hope so!), but the link to the War Room article, “Expel, expelling, expelled!” is a general link to the section of the site. Here’s the direct link to the article:

    http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2008/03/21/expelled

  77. #90 Propane Scooters
    June 10, 2011

    I did a post on my site. Now all the people who come there doing searches on terms like “headless rabbit” and “cathy baker hee haw” can be enlightened about P.Z. Myers being expelled from Expelled!

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