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PZ Myers Expelled, Gains Sainthood

Category: Charles DarwinCreation ScienceCreationismEducationEventsEvolutionIntelligent DesignMinnesotaReligion
Posted on: March 21, 2008 12:12 PM, by Greg Laden

As you have undoubtedly heard, a group of evolutionary biologists and evolutionary biology supporters attended a showing of the movie Expelled, in the Twin Cities, last night. This group included the very famous Richard Dawkins and the only slightly less famous PZ Myers. PZ and Richard, in fact, were together in line, along with PZ's spouse, a daughter, and a future son in law. Other evolution supporters and at least one local evolutionary-type blogger were also in line.

While waiting in line and minding their own business, PZ was spotted by the Expelled! production staff, and EXPELLED from the theater!!!! Richard Dawkins and the others were not picked up by this anti-truth security dragnet, and were able to attend the show.

So we have this:

LOL_PZ_Myers_Expelled.jpg

vs this:

LOL_Richard_Dawkins_Not_Expelled.jpg

This could not have gone better if Myers and Dawkins had planned it. This absurd move on the part of Expelled producers, along with various internet accounts by Creationist Christian Yahoos that give patently false descriptions of the event, belie the deeply smarmy nature of American Creationist Cultism.

Later that evening, a film was made in a Minneapolis Hotel Room, staring PZ Myers and Richard Dawkins. By all accounts, this film is much better produced than Expelled!. The film can be seen here.

The internet is abuzz with this event. The following is a list of all of the posts I know of on the internet about this event. If you feel that I am missing something, email me!

Dawkins has written a review of the film, calle Lying for Jesus?

The entries below include eye witness accounts of the event, news coverage in major outlets including the New York Times, and blog commentary. I have not included creationist apologist posts. Sorry, not on my blog! (But there is really very little of that out there, amazingly).

Enjoy!

Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed ...

New York Times Coverage of the PZ Expulsion: No Admission for Evolutionary Biologist at Creationist Film
The Protest Ben Stein's Expelled Face Book Group
Salon: Expel, expelling, expelled!
Greg Laden Has all of the ExpelledGate Links
On Richard Dawkins Net: Discussion on PZ Myers being expelled from Expelled
TwinCities.com: Biology prof expelled from screening of 'Expelled'
IT'S IN THE COMICS!
Should Dawkins have been Expelled?
the expelled chronicles
Wikipedia Entry
Myers, Dawkins and Popcorn...& LOLTrilobites!
Genie Scott On PZ's Expulsion
Irony
Atheists From All Over the Country, And I'm Not There?
Just in time for Easter
Anti-evolutionists throw a biologist out of film showing
Mark Mathis a liar? How so?! EYEWITNESS ACCOUNT
PZ Myers: EXPELLED!
Expelled and Reduction ad Hitlerum
PZ Myers: A late night quick one
Dawkins Crashes Expelled Party
EXPELLED from "Expelled"!
THOSE FASCIST FUCKS THREW PZ OUT OF THE THEATRE RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME!
PZ Expelled from Expelled
Myers Throws Self on Hand Grenade, Saves Evolutionary Biologist
On the list of the singularly most ridiculous things that have ever happened...
Irony is alive
I guess they're not going to invite him to the premiere
Rabble Rousing Evolutionist Expelled From Theater
PZ gets expelled ... and gets the last laugh.
P.Z. Expelled!, Dawkins in...
Too stupid for words
Excretion
Yeah, that's gonna leave a mark.
Ridiculous Demented Right-Wing Wackaloon Theocratic Douchemonkeys Fuck Up Big Time.
On Richard Dawkins Net
PZ Myers gets Expelled
On Talk Origins.
Casual Fridays: Can YOU recognize Richard Dawkins?
Saint PZ?
Expelled Flunked: An Own Goal
Creationism, evolution, and Nazis. Yes, Nazis.
Evolution teacher expelled from creationist movie
Ben Stein vs. PZ
Expelled from 'Expelled'
Priceless
Creationists Need to Evolve 'Smart' Intelligent Design
Expelled From Expelled
The Expelled Controversy
ID Stands for Intellectual Dishonesty
Monty Python guards Expelled.
ID = Intelligent Design = Intentional Dishonesty.
Verily the Lord Atheos sayeth unto yee...
Skatje Myers: I suppose it's due
Well that's gratitude for you
Expelled! The Movie To Be Pulled From Theaters Following Myers Dawkins-Gate Screwup
PZ Has Been Expelled: Smear Campaign to Follow
Florida Citizens for Science: Expelled incompetence
Pharyngula gets creationist movie boot and lies
Scientist 'Expelled' From Intelligent Design Movie
PZ was expelled from Expelled.
Historic Mall is Burning into the Night
Skeptic Friends Network
Still straining to find an excuse
PZ and Dawkins the "gatecrashers"
Pharyngula gets creationist movie boot plus lies
Bear Stearns isn't the Only Bankrupt Thing These Days
Dawkins and PZ on Expelled
And the never ending freak show just goes on and on and on...
OMFSM! The Expelling of PZ from Expelled Hits the NYT
PZ Gets Expelled and Wins teh Internets!
Rock Star Biologist -- University Tour 2008, or How I Got to Meet Richard Dawkins
Silly Creationists, The Trick's On You
Sandwalk: PZ Myers and Richard Dawkins Discuss "EXPELLED"
"Intelligent Design" has NOTHING to do with religion - nope - all science!
Dawkins and Myers on Being Expelled
Things that make me smile, Saturday edition, part 1: Creationists shooting themselves in the foot
Did you forget that other scandal?
Expelled: FAIL!
Intelligent Design Movie Is Not for Heathens
Oh, no! My most subtle asset, exposed!
This Controversy HELPS Ben Stein, People
LES CRÉATIONISTES NE VEULENT PAS QUE DES OPPOSANTS VOIENT LEURS FILMS
Ooops....

Der Schöpfung die Krone aufgesetzt

In which the intelligent design movement takes careful aim, and blows both feet off.

Win Ben Stein Some Brains!

WCCO News: Man Interviewed In Movie, Not Allowed To See It

Godwin's Law Never Fails
The Expelled Controversy
Diaphanitas' links
PZ Myers gets "Expelled" from Intelligent Design movie
God is Dead Day
Infidel Guy Radio forum
Expelled from Expelled... But that's not the best part
Blogger gets expelled from Expelled
So what does Dawkins think of "Expelled"
Expelled creators only want some people to preview it

Bruce Chapman is a liar
Expelled in Tempe ...
WAAR ZIJN CREATIONISTEN TOCH ZO BANG VOOR? EXPELLED FROM EXPELLED
In case you missed the story

Sheer Beauty

The Spin Begins
They Expelling the Wrong Person!
the expelled from "expelled" story
EvolutionNews.org caught lying out its ass. Again.
Cdesign proponentsists lying? No never!
The Expelled Police: Not the brightest bulbs
Creationists kind of miss the point... LOL!!!

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Jeebus, but that tickles the cockles.

Posted by: J Daley | March 21, 2008 3:05 PM

Jeffrey Overstreet wrote a couple of blog entries at http://artsandfaith.com/index.php?showtopic=16419&hl= about his story. Here is a quote from one about the comments being left at PZ's site;
"You haven't seen the posts I've deleted. I'm getting buried in messages that read like they've been written by the Uruk-Hai. Check out the tone of the comments on this page. I mean, I'm all for comments and discussion, but those folks have all the dignity of a gang of playground bullies."

Posted by: Wade | March 21, 2008 3:25 PM

Jeffrey Overstreet wrote a couple of blog entries at http://artsandfaith.com/index.php?showtopic=16419&hl= about his story. Here is a quote from one about the comments being left at PZ's site;
"You haven't seen the posts I've deleted. I'm getting buried in messages that read like they've been written by the Uruk-Hai. Check out the tone of the comments on this page. I mean, I'm all for comments and discussion, but those folks have all the dignity of a gang of playground bullies."

Posted by: Wade | March 21, 2008 3:26 PM

Sorry about the double post, I had a Server Timed Out message, so I simply reposted without checking.

Posted by: wade | March 21, 2008 3:30 PM

I have written a new post about this, because I feel very strongly about the movie spreading the lie about evolution and Nazis.

Posted by: Phil Plait, aka The Bad Astronomer | March 21, 2008 3:45 PM

By the way, James Walcott at Vanity Fair thinks the whole episode is delightful.

Posted by: pluky | March 21, 2008 3:55 PM

Jeffrey Overstreet wrote a couple of blog entries at..
Don't you find Overstreet's standard of fairness commendable? After numerous commenters pointed out Stuart Blessman's own words are contradictory, so that he is most certainly not being entirely truthful, Overstreet dismisses these as "opinions" of people who have "faith" because they were not present themselves.

Posted by: Virgil Samms | March 21, 2008 4:44 PM

Really? I heard that it was just a Beatification.

Posted by: Sophist FCD | March 21, 2008 5:48 PM

Someone (not me) made an amusing lolscience macro:

Click here!

Posted by: Seamyst | March 21, 2008 6:02 PM

I blogged on it here.

Posted by: micketymoc | March 21, 2008 6:20 PM

And... we have newspaper coverage: http://www.twincities.com/ci_8653837

Posted by: Adam Cuerden | March 21, 2008 7:29 PM

I just ran across this gem of a comic. :-D

Posted by: The Science Pundit | March 21, 2008 7:56 PM

In case you haven't seen, the story is in NYT now:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/21/science/21expelledw.html

Posted by: zooey | March 21, 2008 8:11 PM

In case it gets missed, here is Genie Scott, in the Pharyngula comments:

Well, PZ, at least you got registered and accepted for the program.

I registered for the local East Bay showing (site unannounced) more than three weeks ago, and received my automated reply on February 28 saying I would be emailed "a confirmation once the screening is confirmed".

They now know the screening will be in Danville. The web page says the Danville screening is "full", yet others I know received confirmations weeks ago, while my inbox remains empty.

I fear I have been *pre*Expelled!

Does anyone who is confirmed for Danville want to take me as a guest? I assure you, I am very well behaved. I am a mild-mannered, gray-haired lady who like PZ is "Minnesota nice."

But I *would* like to know why Mark Mathis told both of us a month after Premise Media secured the domain name "www.expelledthemovie.com" that the name of the movie was "Crossroads." Was Premise lying to Mark or was Mark lying to us?


Posted by: Blake Stacey | March 21, 2008 8:34 PM

Florida Citizens for Science blog post "Expelled incompetence":
http://www.flascience.org/wp/?p=510

Posted by: Brandon | March 21, 2008 10:45 PM

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2008/03/richard_dawkins_worlds_most_fa.html#more

There is a growing fear by the producers that Darwinists may be trying get into the showings to make bootleg copies (for the Web?), possibly in hopes of damaging the commercial value. Others may be crashing because they want to trash it before it even gets reviewed by the media. P.Z. Myers, who was not let into a showing last night in Minnesota, probably falls in the latter category.

Amazingly, the best selling Oxford scientist/author Richard Dawkins also crashed a showing of Expelled in Minnesota last night and he not only was let in, but introduced at the end of the showing.

Dawkins apparently acknowledged that he had not been invited and did not have a ticket. A sophomoric side to his ideological campaign is thus revealed.


Paranoia and projection, not a pretty combination

Posted by: Qidam | March 21, 2008 11:17 PM

Did you get this one?

http://www.twincities.com/allheadlines/ci_8653837?nclick_check=1

TwinCities.com: Biology prof expelled from screening of 'Expelled'

Posted by: Hank Fox | March 21, 2008 11:45 PM

I did a post on my site. Now all the people who come there doing searches on terms like "headless rabbit" and "cathy baker hee haw" can be enlightened about P.Z. Myers being expelled from Expelled!

http://anothermonkey.blogspot.com/2008/03/just-in-time-for-easter.html

Posted by: Harold | March 22, 2008 12:49 AM

We have claimed territory on the Wikipedia "Irony" page, with a definition of "breaking the irony meter."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony

To secure this bit of the memeplex, do mention, if so moved, when your irony meter has been overloaded, broken, exploded, etc.

Posted by: Dr Benway | March 22, 2008 1:15 AM

Like Ed Darrell, I thought little more was needed than a link. I just had to give a bit of context first:

Expelled, The Irony

Posted by: Bob O'H | March 22, 2008 1:55 AM

Keep them coming, I'll keep checking this and my email and updating regularly.

In a day or two, I'll reformat this mess and make it all pretty, alphabetical, whatever seems appropriate.

I don't understand why the Wikipedia entry on the movie refers only to these wishy wishy press pieces, and not to any of the first hand accounts on the internet, or to this compendium of links!!!

There are Irony people at Wikipedia who do not want Expelled in the entry. Somebody has to go back and put it in, right? Is that how it workrs?

But hey, don't make trouble. If the police grab you just GO LIMP GO LIMP... You've all had your training, REMEMBER YOUR TRAINING.

A wet rag in a plastic bag for the tear gas. It won't help but it will make you feel better. Be aware of which way the wind is blowing. If you hear pops or explosions, don't go away from the sound but rather, go into the wind.

(It is all coming back....)

Posted by: Greg Laden | March 22, 2008 10:04 AM

A foreigner's brief review of "Expelled" shenanigans....

Posted by: Adrian Thysse | March 22, 2008 11:01 AM

I've posted a couple of entries:

(or you could just click on my name below to see all at once)

http://sbrownblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/omfsm-expelling-of-pz-from-expelled.html

http://sbrownblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/pz-gets-expelled-and-wins-teh-internets.html

http://sbrownblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/rock-star-biologist-university-tour.html


including my experiences at the Center for Inquiry reception with Dawkins in Austin the evening before he was in Minneapolis. Dawkins used my paper in his speech ;)

Posted by: Susan Brown | March 22, 2008 12:07 PM

It's not the great American novel, but here's where I chuckle.

Posted by: The Flying Trilobite | March 22, 2008 12:19 PM

There's an account at Libertes Internets that's worth including. (I don't see it above, but perhaps I missed it.) It isn't entirely clear to me who the author is (I don't know the site, CalGeorge linked to it in Pharyngula comments). It lists "Tim Carr - IES News Service Chicago - 22/03/2008" at the beginning, which makes me wonder whether this might be French translation of an article in English???

Posted by: Physicalist | March 22, 2008 1:17 PM

Russell Blackford has a thought commentary here:
http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/comments/2349/

Posted by: RBH | March 22, 2008 4:05 PM

Hmmm, you seem to have missed mine. I caught PZ's post while the movie was still on (Comment 45), laughed out loud several times, and got down to blogging: "Expelled FAIL!"

Posted by: Monado, FCD | March 22, 2008 4:15 PM

I'm collecting other links:
http://diaphanus.livejournal.com/871071.html

Posted by: Ian Andreas Miller | March 22, 2008 8:13 PM

Ian,

I've added some of yours.

Posted by: Greg Laden | March 22, 2008 8:27 PM

I'll toot my own horn.

Posted by: wheatdogg | March 22, 2008 9:06 PM

I couldn't finish PhysioProfs post. How one makes this topic unreadable is an achievement in itself.

Posted by: Michael X | March 23, 2008 4:36 AM

Joining the wave, here's mine.

Posted by: C. L. Hanson | March 23, 2008 12:53 PM

I've done a couple of pieces on Expelled, although just how much can you flog a dead horse, but my piece on this story is at:

http://bitchspot.jadedragononline.com/?p=222

Posted by: Cephus | March 23, 2008 5:00 PM

Keep flogging the dead horse. Here's the post I did on the subject:
http://dangblog.wordpress.com/2008/03/21/the-expelled-from-expelled-story/

Posted by: Dan Green | March 23, 2008 10:15 PM

I took the liberty of upgrading the LOLDawkins posted to Myers' Expelled thread:

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/3/23/128508027995000000.jpg

also here, but larger:

http://profile.imageshack.us/user/didymos/images/detail/#186/lolexpelledpz0.jpg

Posted by: Thomas S. Howard | March 23, 2008 11:33 PM

And here are my two.
The first, covering pretty much the whole Expelled silliness:
http://mattcbr.wordpress.com/2008/03/21/expelled-no-intelligence-allowed-why-its-a-load-of-bunk/

The second a response to EvolutionNews.org's lying out it's ass.
http://mattcbr.wordpress.com/2008/03/23/evolutionnewsorg-caught-lying-out-its-ass-again/

Posted by: Matt | March 23, 2008 11:36 PM

You know you've made it when your irony explosion gets picked up on BookCrossing chat forums: Creationists kind of miss the point--LOL. The start of thread quotes Prof. Myers' original post and there are more than 90 responses.

Here's the link in clear:
http://www.bookcrossing.com/forum/5/5248874/94

Posted by: Monado, FCD | March 24, 2008 11:57 AM

New Scientist has a review of Expelled.. Money quote:

Throughout the entire experience, Maggie and I couldn't help feeling that the polarised audience in the theater was a sort of microcosm of America, and let me tell you - it's a scary place. I also couldn't help thinking that the intelligent design folks aren't being silenced, so much as they're being silent. Because when it comes to actually explaining anything, they've got nothing to say.
The whole review is well worth reading.

Posted by: RBH | March 24, 2008 5:39 PM

Here is my (fairly detailed) post at Science Reporting blog:
http://sciencereporting.blogspot.com/2008/03/pz-id-and-bs.html

Posted by: Patrick McComb | March 24, 2008 7:39 PM

I have a collection of links to blog posts on this topic on my own blog as well, which includes some reactions from religion scholars, theologians and other such sources.

Posted by: James McGrath | March 25, 2008 9:09 AM

You may add to the list the post at Talk Reason at http://www.talkreason.org/articles/expelled.cfm . TalkReason is not a blog but rather an archive, but this story was too funny not to be reacted to.

Posted by: Mark Perakh | March 25, 2008 11:02 AM

There was an "Expelled Contest" to see who could come up with the greatest persecution story; however, it has been closed down between yesterday afternoon and this morning.

http://sbrownblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/expelled-contest.html

Posted by: Susan Brown | March 26, 2008 8:36 AM

There was an "Expelled Contest" to see who could come up with the greatest persecution story; however, it has been closed down between yesterday afternoon and this morning.

http://sbrownblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/expelled-contest.html

Posted by: Susan Brown | March 26, 2008 8:37 AM

http://unintelligencedispelled.blogspot.com/

Just a brief coverage of the incident, but will be updating with more news and opinion pieces on ID and the buzz created by Expelled.

Posted by: NP | March 26, 2008 8:38 AM

here is my contribution
www.biolaw.blogspot.com

Posted by: rebb | March 26, 2008 9:52 PM

I've written a post trying to keep track of all of the different contradictory stories coming from the ID crowd about this incident. It's here: Expelled movie public-relations definitely not intelligently designed. Submissions welcome!

Posted by: nerdiah | March 28, 2008 8:12 AM

John Patterson, film reviewer for The Guardian, wrote yesterday:

"The actor Ben Stein has switched from TV comedy, where his talents really lie, to political apologias, where his talents simply die...."

A step to the right

Posted by: themadlolscientist | March 29, 2008 2:40 AM

Monkey Trials: Atheism's Jay Leno?

OK, so my previous entry wasn't about Expelledgate - but it's nice to see that our friends across the pond are picking up on the ridiculousness of the movie and BS's appearance in it.

Posted by: themadlolscientist | March 29, 2008 12:42 PM