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President Obama on Darwin's Birthday

Category: Charles DarwinCivil WarDarwinPoliticsRace and Racism
Posted on: February 13, 2009 7:31 AM, by Greg Laden

... and some other guy ...

You must go to just after six minutes 20 second. And then it's like, one second long. But there is is.

Quiz: Who first and most consistently against slavery, Lincoln or Darwin?

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1

I heard somewhere that the new argument against evolution from creationists will be that Darwin was terribly offended by slavery so therefore evolution must not be true - his opinions were tainted.

So my guess is -Darwin??!!

Posted by: Stacy | February 13, 2009 9:01 AM

2

Stacy... Seriously????? Really?????? Where did you hear that, I'd love to see (and whip-ass blog) that particular bit of drek!

Posted by: Greg Laden | February 13, 2009 9:48 AM

3

The embodyment of Obama; the man, the mind... in itself, is a great testament to the evolution of species.

The speech itself, a powerful illustration of the 'Ascent of Man' in the Oval office [bush-man to mountain-top man].

Thanks for posting.

Posted by: Claude Rallins | February 13, 2009 11:05 AM

4

I'll go try and find it for you Greg. I'm pretty sure it came from one of two places - either the FCS blog or an e mail that was sent out on the mailing list.
If it's the latter, I may not have saved it.

Posted by: Stacy | February 13, 2009 11:12 AM

5

So, until the new book Darwin's Sacred Cause came out, he was a racist and invented evolution to justify slavery. Then the book came out and he invented evolution because he hated slavery. If you are keeping score:

Darwinism = Slavery
Darwinism = Anti-Slavery

It's all good, right?

Posted by: Mike Haubrich, FCD | February 13, 2009 1:46 PM

6

Greg - Here is an e mail I received. (Mike it mentions the same book):

"I haven't seen any creationist employ such a tactic recently, but with the
publication of Desmond and Moore's Darwin's Sacred Cause, it may
emerge. Desmond and Moore are respected historians of science, and the
central argument of their book -- that the anti-slavery beliefs in his
family motivated and inspired Darwin's view of common descent in general
and of the common ancestry of humans in particular -- is advanced and
defended in a scholarly responsible way. But by emphasizing
extrascientific influences on Darwin's scientific work, they may open the
door to the creationists to argue that the scientific work is
corrupted. For information about the book, see:
http://www.penguin.co.uk/nf/Book/BookDisplay/0,,9781846140358,00.html

Posted by: Stacy | February 13, 2009 2:00 PM

7

Greg - Desmond is the author of the article I posted on my facebook (and asked you to read) on Darwin's abolitionist roots. It's a kind-of summary of the book. Here's the link for those of you who are not yet my 'friends'.
http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/article_details.php?id=10581

Posted by: Ana | February 13, 2009 3:01 PM

8

Ah. I had not made the connection.

Posted by: Greg Laden | February 13, 2009 3:33 PM

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