Now on ScienceBlogs: HeartlandGate: Anti-Science Institute's Insider Reveals Secrets

ScienceBlogs Book Club: Inside the Outbreaks

Greg Laden's Blog

Evolution, Life Sciences, Science Education, Human Evolution, and Stuff

Darwing_Face.jpg Learn more about Charles Darwin and his work.

Hornbill170.jpg Looking for stuff about birds?

Lion_mane170.jpg Lean more about lions

Congo_sidebar.jpg An archaeological expedition to the Congo


The Skeptical Search Engine


Nature Blog Network
Climate Defense Fund


The contents of Greg Laden's Blog are copyrighted by Greg Laden.

Recent Comments

Search

Profile


Click on "About" for the big picture, and "Archives" for the details.


Recent Posts

Blogroll

If you don't see yourself on my blogroll, just drop me a line and let me know. I'll add you.*
*Assuming that I'm on your blogroll, of course!

Archives

« ext3 and ext4 dispute | Main | Crazy Cuckoos Invade Europe »

Sudden movement in the Franken-Coleman Senate Race Recount

Category: Al FrankenNorm ColemanPoliticsrecount
Posted on: March 31, 2009 5:42 PM, by Greg Laden

The judicial panel that has been off somewhere deciding what to do about the Coleman election challenge has ordered 400 additional ballots opened and counted on April 7th.

If (and we do not know this for a fact) these are THE remaining ballots to count, them Coleman would have to get a statistically unlikely majority to overtake Franken's lead of 225 votes. I suppose this is possible. So I suppose we'll be sitting on the edges of our respective seats for the next week.

There does not seem to be any systematic meaningful bias in which candidate is likely to come out ahead in this group. The mix of 400 ballots includes both Coleman-supported and Franken supported absentee ballots.

I understand that there is a news conference being held right now, and I'm checking on that ... will report back if anything new developes.

UPDATE: From the Franken Lawyer's news conference: It turns out that the court intends to look at a subset of the ballots and THEN determine which will be opened. We do now know what percentage of the ballots make up this subset, or what their characteristics might be.

This is important: There are at least two other issues that have not addressed by the court and that the court may still chose to address. So this may be complicated.

Added:

What do these 400 votes have to look like for Coleman to win? If we assume that they represent a random subset of votes, we can guess that 60 are Barkely votes (the third party candidate). This leaves 340 votes.

Then, Coleman has to get 225 votes, which is about 66 percent. Coleman would have to win this tiny mini election by a landslide.

So, if he does win it by a landslide, that would pretty much mean that he cheated.

We'll see how this goes...

sources: MN progressive, Strib

Share on Facebook
Share on StumbleUpon
Share on Facebook
Find more posts in: Politics

TrackBacks

TrackBack URL for this entry: http://scienceblogs.com/mt/pings/104651

Comments

1

Actually, he'd have to get 226 plus half the remaining votes, or 283 votes, or 83%.

Posted by: Stephanie Z | March 31, 2009 6:21 PM

2

Doh.... Right. 283 votes = 83 percent, or 71 percent of the total (again, with the third party getting 60 votes).

So, even more so.

Posted by: Greg Laden | March 31, 2009 6:56 PM

3

The rethugs will start World War III to prevent the passage of health care reform. I can't wait for the day that Franken takes his rightful seat in the US Senate.

Posted by: The Science Pundit | March 31, 2009 7:30 PM

4

Well, you're right about it being 226 (instead of 225 - need that +1), but the remaining votes are up for grabs. We can statistically model the chances for the remaining votes by all candidates, but we can't be certain.

- If all 400 votes were for either Coleman or Franken, Coleman would need 50% of that remainder (87 of 174) for a total of 313 votes (78.25%).

- If all 174 others were for a third-party candidate, he'd need only the 226 votes (56.5%).

- If the third party guess of 60 votes is correct, 50% of the remainder (57 of 114) gives a total of 283 (70.75%).

Posted by: Mystyk | March 31, 2009 8:11 PM

5

In this one instance, I'm glad that the senate term is 6 years. If this was a house race, a quarter of the term would pretty much have passed already!

Posted by: DrBadger | March 31, 2009 8:20 PM

6

thanks for sharing.

Posted by: watch movies | March 31, 2009 10:54 PM

Post a Comment

(Email is required for authentication purposes only. On some blogs, comments are moderated for spam, so your comment may not appear immediately.)





ScienceBlogs

Search ScienceBlogs:

Go to:

Advertisement
Follow ScienceBlogs on Twitter

© 2006-2011 ScienceBlogs LLC. ScienceBlogs is a registered trademark of ScienceBlogs LLC. All rights reserved.