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  1. #1 Kammy
    July 16, 2009

    I’m getting this book: The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power by Jeff Sharlet

    This sounds like some scary shit. Not illuminati scary, real life scary.

  2. #2 Greg Laden
    July 16, 2009

    I had that book on my Kindle before the guy stopped talking last night. And that is not my usual modus operendus.

  3. #3 Kammy
    July 16, 2009

    Rachel Maddow (msnbc) has been talking about it for more than a week I think. She goes in depth with the author on two shows that I’ve heard.

  4. #4 Stacy
    July 16, 2009

    Are there no “Sunshine Laws” for congress?

    How is it that they are allowed to live together?

    This is scary. I agree.

  5. #5 Dorid
    July 16, 2009

    We’ve heard about The Family for a few years now. I’m not surprised at any of this.

  6. #6 becca
    July 16, 2009

    How is it any creepier than the military?

  7. #7 JJ
    July 16, 2009

    Because the military doesn’t make laws that the rest of us have to obey.

  8. #9 Jim Lippard
    July 16, 2009

    It’s not just Republicans–even Hillary Clinton is a Family supporter:

    http://ehrenreich.blogs.com/barbaras_blog/2008/03/hillarys-nasty.html

  9. #10 stillwaggon
    July 16, 2009

    Many members of the House and Senate do not have their own homes in the D.C. area, just keeping personal family homes in their districts in the state they represent — especially those in the House of Representatives who have shorter terms. So they share living quarters. That’s not the problem. Millions of people have roommates, but don’t have the kind of power-sharing pact these guys have.

  10. #11 itzac
    July 16, 2009

    I gotta say, I’m not sure this is that big a deal. I mean the hypocrisy is ridiculous, and this behaviour does have serious implications for democracy, but I think she’s making a mountain out of a molehill. This sounds like a group of ignorant congress hypocrites playing at secret societies so they can feel powerful. I’m sure there are more secretive and genuinely powerful groups that deserve more scrutiny.

  11. #12 Gozza
    July 16, 2009

    Whoa epic ammunition for the Daily Show!

  12. #13 jdac
    July 16, 2009

    Wow, a cult of politicians, united in fanatic religion, shot through with hyprocrisy, protected by a web of secrecy, dissembling and obfuscation.

    I’ve been reading a lot of early cyberpunk and dystopian SF lately… maybe I should be taking it more seriously.

  13. #14 D. C. Sessions
    July 16, 2009

    How is it that they are allowed to live together?

    There are a couple of answers to that. The cheap on is, “who’s going to stop them? Congress?”

    The less-cheap one is that Congressmen don’t make all that much money, especially for people who can manage to raise millions every few years. (Despite this, there seem to be a lot of them who’ve become very wealthy in office.) The typical freshman Congressman already has a home in hir home district [1] typical of the income s/he could make outside of government. Then they get to add the cost of a second residence in Washington — which isn’t low-rent. A lot of Congresscritters solve the problem by rooming together; it’s not like they typically have lots of time to enjoy hanging around.

    [1] With exceptions like John McCain, who has several in lots of places and got started by buying a “home” in an up-for-grabs district just in time to establish nominal residency.

  14. #15 Michael
    July 16, 2009

    Another SciBlogger Ed Brayton just did an interview with the book’s author on his last podcast.

    For those interested it’s the latest podcast at
    http://www.declaringindependenceradio.com/index.php?/site/podcasts/

    It’s about the second half of the show.

  15. #16 Michael
    July 16, 2009

    Other thing is that Jeff mentioned in the interview that the reason they’ve been so resilient is that they reach across the isle with I think 20% of their members being democrats.

    Which I believe includes Hillary Clinton (as a “friend” which is a level below a full “member”)

  16. #17 megan
    July 17, 2009

    Sounds like a religious version of the Freemasons, Illuminati male groups, the Bohemian Grove. Even the high level worldwide power groups are just like this, IT’s ALL BAD.

  17. #18 Dunc
    July 17, 2009

    However bad you thought it was, it is much much much worse than you ever imagined.

    Dude, you have no idea how bad I think it is. This is only the tip of the iceberg. These fuckers have been steadily establishing themselves within the Armed Forces for years. You know where that leads, right?

  18. #19 Jonathan Taylor
    July 21, 2009

    Ok here we go again with the crazy republicans and their “shady” shenanigans! Yes there are a few dems (that attended once) however repubs continue to go and C street is in fact run by repubs. Wow repubs are getting more and more weird as time goes on.

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