Dear Moderate Christian

I'd like to take a moment to address some of your remarks about how the tactics of "New Atheists" are just too uncivil....

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If there is no struggle there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom and yet deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one, or it may be a physical one, and it may be both moral and physical, but it must be a struggle. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.

- Frederick Douglass

I was going to say something, but after justawriter's comment from Frederick Douglass, all I can say is wow.

By NewEnglandBob (not verified) on 07 Aug 2009 #permalink

Power may concede nothing without a demand, But I believe (based on studying a lot of history) that how you deman has an enormous impact on success.