More on the CA tuition thing:

What do you think about this news story? It is a product of, which I think is new.


  1. #1 The Science Pundit
    November 24, 2009

    My thoughts:

    1) What a convenient still for that video. I watched the whole video and I don’t remember that scene (it must have flashed by quickly), but if I could’ve chosen any frame to use as a still for the video, it would’ve been that one.

    2) I’m jealous of the nice weather that they’re obviously having in California.

    3) The increasing privatization of these publc institutions is indeed a problem. It’s another cog in the gears widening the wealth gap much like the medieval rack.

    4) I agree that you can’t cut financial aid, number of faculty members, etc., but cutting what they’re being forced to cut is almost as damaging.

    But I guess I’m just a leftist, commie, nazi, cheese and arugula eating, anti-American.

  2. #2 Greg Laden
    November 24, 2009

    Ah! I had no idea what you were talking about with the “still” …. then I clicked on the Flash Blocker. And got Flashed! The scene should be in the middle, right? Should be easy to find….

  3. #3 Greg Laden
    November 24, 2009

    Ah, nope, not there.

  4. #4 The Science Pundit
    November 24, 2009

    Ah, nope, not there.

    I know. I was looking for it too. 😉

  5. #5 Greg Laden
    November 24, 2009

    Perhaps they have a new technology.

  6. #6 History Punk
    November 24, 2009

    At least the American middle-class is getting an invaluable political science lesson about the subsidies that make their existence possible. Hopefully, they internalize it to the point they refrain whining about poor people’s subsidies.

  7. #7 writeon1
    November 24, 2009

    Several decades ago I attended Hunter College of the University of the City of New York. As I recall, anyone with a B average in high school was admitted. There was no tuition. Since I also had a NY State regents scholarship my books and fees were covered as well.

    So, then: A four year degree for free as long as you could maintain reasonable grades!
    Now: A four year degree means a mountain of debt for most students.

    I thought we became a richer nation over the past 40 years. What went wrong?

  8. #8 NewEnglandBob
    November 24, 2009

    I think Newsy needs to put 12 more “newsy” on the screen simultaneously, they never had more that 4 or 5 at a time. I really don’t want to see the actual story anyway.

  9. #9 Greg Laden
    November 24, 2009

    writeon1: War is expensive, and maintaining a very large very rich upper class is a great burden as well.

  10. #10 Rich Wilson
    November 25, 2009

    “UC’s return-to aid practice, combined with 2009-10 increases in Cal Grants, federal Pell Grants and federal tuition tax credits will provide enough additional resources to cover the full amount of the fee increases already approved for 2009-10, and the 2009-10 mid-year increase for nearly three-quarters of UC students with family incomes below $180,000”

    Something not mentioned anywhere is that the portion of fees that students pay each year that goes to student services (typically ‘registration fee’) has been frozen for some 20 years. It’s the ‘education’ fee that increases. That means that such departments as student health, disabled students services, counseling services, career services etc. have had a steady budget decrease due to inflation.