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Make Your Own "Liquid Nitrogen" at Home
Posted on: November 21, 2009 8:35 PM, by Greg Laden
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I'm a bit surprised that he does this whole thing without any form of gloves. This is a real demonstration. The descriptor of "cryogenic napalm" is also amusing.
Posted by: Joshua Zelinsky | November 21, 2009 10:37 PM
No way would I handle that super-cold alcohol without gloves. Though I did put my whole forearm into liquid nitrogen once. Pulled it back out, screaming and affecting a "frozen hand"... (I know, never clown around in a laboratory.)
For those who don't know, it's a relatively safe stunt. It takes a few moments for liquid nitrogen to touch your skin, CSI episodes notwithstanding.
Posted by: george.w | November 21, 2009 11:33 PM
Is no one else going to mention that "real" liquid nitrogen is roughly three times colder than dry ice?
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Posted by: tms | November 22, 2009 12:42 AM
Bah. We use an ethanol/dry ice bath to flash freeze competent bacteria. Nothin' "liquid nitrogen" about it, neither in temperature nor substance. Still pretty cold, but latex gloves are typically enough insulation to suit me.
Posted by: Aaron Golas | November 22, 2009 1:29 AM
Awww... and I was hoping it would be a real "how to". You can in fact make liquid nitrogen right at home - but you have to have access to a workshop to manufacture some bits that you'll need. It's really not that difficult and was first done about 120 years ago. Liquid oxygen is extremely dangerous though, and should you accidentally trap large amounts of liquid ozone by repeated use of the apparatus without flushing - well, that's even worse than liquid oxygen. Liquid nitrogen is very safe in comparison - you only need to worry about contact with the cold gas and asphyxiation due to displacement of oxygen. Well, the asphyxiation thing can be tricky - you'll have no idea what the oxygen content of the air you're breathing is unless you have an oxygen sensor of some sort.
Posted by: MadScientist | November 22, 2009 1:55 AM
adana çiçekçi online çiçek satış mğazası
Posted by: nihat | November 22, 2009 2:26 AM
osmaniye çiçek siparişleri için online çiçek satış mağazası
Posted by: osmaniye çiçekçi | November 22, 2009 2:29 AM
So, how cold does this actually get when you use dry ice and alcohol? I have an, um, "need to know."
Posted by: Mike Haubrich, FCD | November 22, 2009 10:30 AM
gloves are a bad idea for the same reason that it is recommended that you not wear pants with cuffs while welding.
Posted by: peter | November 22, 2009 1:12 PM
Because the horse divers fall into them?
Posted by: omar | November 22, 2009 1:35 PM
And old saying about DeWar ...
"Sir James DeWar is smarter than you are. None of you asses can liquify gasses ..."
When in high school friends and I had unlimited access to a large dewar full of liquid nitrogen at a local science museum, and a master key that allowed us to um liberate plastic bottles sold in the science supply store.
1. Take plastic bottle
2. Add a bit of liquid nitrogen
3. Shake well - but quickly!
4. Throw
The result would be a nice explosive "thump" and a cloud of condensation ...
One fourth of July the museum had a national guard team with some sort of field piece come by to shoot blanks ... several of us kids got our liquid nitrogen "bombs" ready to go, two each, one for each hand, and came pouring out of the museum's basement charging across the parking lot to the crew firing blanks.
Thump! Crump! Bang! Hell, were those guardsmen freaked out ...
I suppose kids doing stuff like this today would end up in jail, but we had a hell of a time.
Posted by: dhogaza | November 22, 2009 4:24 PM
We have dry ice in the lab for the purpose Aaron stated, but it also comes in handy when an impromptu dance party is in order. Throw some dry ice in the sink and turn on the water... DIY smoke machine.
I don't use gloves when I handle it and it's no worse than the way my hands feel after a good snowball fight.
Posted by: havoc | November 22, 2009 11:58 PM
About -78 degrees Celsius. For comparison, liquid nitrogen boils at -196degC.
I won't ask about your "need to know," I'll just thank you for bringing some mystery into the world. ;-)
Posted by: Aaron Golas | November 23, 2009 12:19 AM
The whole idea looks really cool but it is not as this can turn into a dangerous accident.
Posted by: Cath Princeton | January 17, 2010 1:03 PM