The You’re Not Helping Blog, a blog written by a consortium of well known bloggers with the assigned task of determining which bloggers, and which blog posts, “help” vs. “not help” has certified certain things said by PZ Myres and Michael Ruse as …. A-OK!

Check it out:

Michael Ruse has balls

… Michael Ruse. .. a little bit looney to begin with (he’s a philosopher after all…), and he has a nasty little habit of embracing woo … he’s an odd mix of someone who both helps about as much as he doesn’t help, and he’s been a little defensive of the Pope’s troubles (and that’s not helping).

They like Mike!

P.Z. Myers is helping

PZ has a post up today about science and morality, and it’s one in which he doesn’t lean so heavily on that crutch of demagoguery for once.

Once! Well, head over there and find out how PZ got it right this one time!

Comments

  1. #1 Equisetum
    April 18, 2010

    “in which he doesn’t lean so heavily on that crutch of demagoguery”

    Huh? I mean, WTF?

    Demagoguery: impassioned appeals to the prejudices and emotions of the populace.

    Does that sound like the P.Z. you know? This is exactly what he’s fighting against.

  2. #2 The guys from that new blog
    April 18, 2010

    Equisetum: shut up.

  3. #3 John McKay
    April 18, 2010

    I am hurt that they don’t care enough to hover and tell me if I’m helpful or not.

  4. #4 Greg Laden
    April 18, 2010

    John, now, is that a helpful thing to say? Really?

  5. #5 Raiko
    April 18, 2010

    Did it ever occur to them that the youarenothelping blog is really not helping? They’re only blogging their personal opinions on who says something good and who says something bad. In short, they’re like every other opinion blog in the world and their posts are just as agreeable or disagreeable as those on any other blog. They’re not helping, really.

  6. #6 Equisetum
    April 18, 2010

    Raiko, maybe you should start a blog.

  7. #7 James Davis
    April 18, 2010

    Eh, I think they’re wrong about PZ Meyers’s latest smattering of posts, though the post they are talking about is pretty darn good.

  8. #8 IanW
    April 18, 2010

    PZ either needs to blog more science or move his blog somewhere more suited to what he actually is blogging most about these days, but having said that, demagoguery is exactly what the “you’re not helping” blog is indulging itself in. Who cares what they say? They’re evidently nothing but a bunch of Mooneys and Nisbets.

  9. #9 Stephanie Z
    April 18, 2010
  10. #10 Phillip IV
    April 18, 2010

    a blog with the assigned task of determining which bloggers, and which blog posts, “help” vs. “not help”

    Have we really already reached that state?

    Well, can’t be helped. Anyway, we should tackle it differently this time around: This time, we should agree up front who first had the idea to kidnap Pilatus’ wife.

  11. #11 Marion Delgado
    April 18, 2010

    Equisetum:

    If the mobs of yahoos commenting on The Intersection who clearly just came from Pharyngula are any indication, then that is definitely one thing PZ is accomplishing.

    “Demagoguery: impassioned appeals to the prejudices and emotions of the populace.”

    Oh, that’s right – declaring yourself a skeptic means you have no emotions or prejudices.

  12. #12 Equisetum
    April 18, 2010

    Oh, that’s right – declaring yourself a skeptic means you have no emotions or prejudices.

    Is that what I said? I don’t remember saying that. But I don’t recall P.Z. ever appealing to emotions or prejudice; only to reason. That does not mean he’s not emotional. See the difference? It also doesn’t mean he’s not prejudiced, but I know of no instance where he has shown himself to be prejudiced. He could be a prejudiced non-discriminator. And, no, his statements concerning religion do not rise to prejudice because he has stated reasons for his beliefs, and always relies on reason rather than emotion in his arguments. Which is the opposite of demagoguery.

    As for the mobs of yahoos, I don’t read The Intersection so I can’t say anything about that. But I do know that P.Z. has at times reprimanded his own readers for becoming too emotional on a subject, which is quite the opposite of what he would do if he were really a demagogue.

  13. #13 Raiko
    April 19, 2010

    Equisetum – Maybe, but would it be helping? :) No, really, what’s your point in suggesting that?

  14. #14 Equisetum
    April 19, 2010

    Raiko, I wasn’t trying to suggest anything. I was simply pointing out that I don’t see anything Myers does as demagoguery. What do you mean?

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