This is interesting. Well, the whole conversation is interesting, but it gets especially interesting around 6 minutes …

Question: … there’s this US Intelligence Analyst Bradley Manning arrested and it’s alleged that he confessed in in a chatroom to have leaked …. 280 thousand classified us embassy cables. Did he?

Answer: Well, we have denied receiving those cables. He has been charged, five days ago, with obtaining 150k cables and releasing 50. We have released early in the year a cable from the Reykjavik us embassy but not necessarily connected…

What is really interesting about this has little to do with Assange, Wikileaks or the cables, but rather, Human Nature. Obviously, WikiLeaks has the cables if not in hand at least in the bush at that moment, and Assange is essentially lying, or perhaps, telling the kind of white lie that a diplomat might tell on the surface while something somewhat different is going on underneath (and in teh cabalz!!!). And, as a human not trained by MI-5 to have ice in his veins when telling a lie, he spews …. SPEWS!!!! … the “tells.”

So, really, it’s more like:

Answer: glance to the side, swallow hard Well, we have denied receiving those cables. wiggle shoulder He has been charged lilting rise of voice, five days ago, avoid eye contact with obtaining twitch 150k cables and releasing 50 hard swallow. We have released cough cough early in the year um a cable from the grimace Reykjavik us embassy but not necessarily connected…bla bla bla

LOL

In any event, given the current impact that Wikileaks seems to be having, this older Ted talk which I have obtained from a source is worth a look:

Comments

  1. #1 MadScientist
    December 9, 2010

    “Obviously, WikiLeaks has the cables if not in hand at least in the bush at that moment …”

    Why is that obvious? As a juror I’d laugh at anyone who said that was obvious. We need facts, not unfounded claims of the “obvious”. Dubbyah started a war in Iraq because it was obvious that they were hiding nukes.

  2. #2 Greg Laden
    December 9, 2010

    OK, strike Obviously. Replace with: “I very strongly suspect that the deal to get the cables had already gone down, and “not having them” was a mere technicality at that time.”

    And you’re not a juror, your a commenter on a blog.

    (I’m assuming your joking and all, but if, rather, you’ve joined the Julian Cult then I take that back. And I’ll be watching you closely just in case.)

  3. #3 Alan
    December 9, 2010

    Someone directly asked him to reveal a source and your suprised he akwardly dodged the question?

  4. #4 Greg Laden
    December 9, 2010

    Alan, did I express even a tiny bit of surprise?

    Well, actually, I was a little surprised that he was so abysmally bad at “dodging” the question, but certainly not that it happened.

    Oh, and he was not dodging a question about a source. He was asked if he had the 1.5K cables. He said no. But then they released them. Everybody knew they were going to be given to them, and they in fact exist (and we are reading them). So, he did what a diplomat does.

    Which is, you see, the point.

  5. #5 Alan
    December 10, 2010

    Greg – “Oh, and he was not dodging a question about a source. He was asked if he had the 1.5K cables. He said no.”

    With all due respect I suggest you read the question again, this time a little more carefully, the question was “Did he?”. “He” being Manning and the “Did” part refering to the previously stated allegation that Manning had leaked the material. Nowhere in your quote does it ask anything about Assange possesing the material. Assange is the one who chose to answer that question rather than the actual question (that’s why it’s a ‘dodge’).

    Also I do get your point (we all have secrets) and “surprised” is probably the wrong word. What I’m really trying to ask is why you think this incident is worth pointing out to your readers? Are you suggesting that Assange does not have a right to be dipomatic? Do you think it’s hypocitical for Assange to diplomatically avoid confirming a source? Or are you just amused by mundane irony?

  6. #6 THE
    December 14, 2010

    It is vital to send this document to as many people as possible, because other countries have a copy, and I waive all copyright on this article.

    There are American citizens who think that the founder of Wikileaks Public Information News Service is a traitor; others think that he is a hero; and yet others who think that he is just an ordinary person committed to a better world.

    The American Government is entirely to blame for this scenario, which is the result of Incompetence, Complacency, or Deliberate Design.

    WikiLeaks may in fact have done America a favour by preventing a new wave of potential spies against America, or stifling the work of existing spies against America.

    It is a natural but wrong human reaction to try to shift the blame away from ourselves and on to others.

    Many people are greatly distressed over this regrettable incident, because they see an innocent person who is being persecuted and slandered as a deviant because he is working for a better world.

    There is no need to guess that the Dictators of Britain, America, and the Nazis of Europe will use the instruments of the State to cover up their incompetence, their complacency, their being unfit for the job entrusted to them by the gullible American Voters, their scheming, their injustices, and their criminality.

    Their instruments are bad; and they have up till now resorted to slander, denial of internet services, and consideration of false charges.

    Motivated by malice, the American Dictators are encouraging the American public to think of the founder of WikiLeaks as a traitor to be hated and denied his legitimate Rights to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.

    This highly illegal and treasonous action of censoring Free Speech, the Cornerstone of the American Constitution, is occurring at this time, because the American Constitution is despised by the Dictators of America.

    The consequences will be less Human Rights and the total contempt for Rule of Law, in order to set up a Military Dictatorship in America.

    This could have been prevented if the elected Representatives of the American people had respected the American Constitution.

    The American Citizen suspected by the American Government in regard to this matter has acted because of his conscience, and realizing that the Nuremburg Trials said that the excuse of taking orders from superiors is not legitimate.

    This person was indoctrinated with the thoughts of America being noble, honest, and having pure motives along with the highest form of Democracy known to Humankind.

    He found that the reality was far different, and he found the situation intolerable because of the guilty secrets he was keeping, and only found relief because of the hope, and then the eventuality of sharing these guilty secrets with Wikleaks, because he knew that Wikileaks cared.

    This prisoner of conscience leaked the files because of the constant nagging of his refined and sensitive conscience based on the Nuremberg Statement that became louder And LOUDER until he could no longer contain it.

    However, his Lawyer may advise him not to mention any of that, because the American Jury will be stacked with disguised modern day America Nazis, and the Judge will promise leniency if he admits to being a traitor.

    We cannot condone it if the prisoner of conscience lies by saying that he is a traitor; however, we should not condemn him either because once again his treacherous Government has placed him in a very difficult situation.

    He will have to think of how his family will receive employment if he decides to tell the truth of how his conscience gave him no rest until he freed himself of guilty secrets that he could no longer keep.

    We all know that the accused person has a support network, and that the City of Berkeley wants to award an Honour to the accused American Citizen, because he and the founder of Wikileaks cannot get the Nobel Peace Prize until next year.

    It is interesting that the American Government cannot pass a Constitutional Law to limit the free speech of Americans.

    If the American Government did pass a law to limit the Free Speech of Wikileaks, then it is saying in effect that non-Americans are considered by America to be second class Citizens.

    It is an old tactic by the unprincipled that if you cannot rubbish the message, then rubbish the messenger with slander and State Sponsored Terrorism by using the corrupt Judicial System of a country, and make sure it is labelled Democracy or International Community.

    The Dictators of America are biased and deliberately lying, because firstly they are Corrupt Lowlifes, and secondly they are too stupid for the jobs that the American Voters have entrusted them with.

    Wikileaks is like a Teacher that is Supervising Grade 1 Primary School Children, and we all know that if there were no supervision by the Teacher, then it would not be beneficial for the children or the society.

    The only way to ensure that the Grade 1 Primary School Children do not steal from the canteen; that they do their work, and that they obey the rules is for their to be a teacher to supervise them.

    That is what the Corrupt, Bribed, and Intimidated Mainstream Media should have been doing all along, but they would ignore and even persecute the whistleblowers because of Government orders given to them.

    As we all know, such as situation would create a demand for what can be loosely but incorrectly termed a black market to ensure liberty, freedom, democracy, and performance based accountability from the Government and from the Public Service.

    These Wikileaks Undiplomatic American Cables were available to 3 million Americans, and Wikileaks has encouraged the Buffoons and Full On Retards in the American State Department to be more careful with their material.

    We have seen certain American Politicians placing an Imperialist version of a Fatwa on an Independent Journalist who works for the Wikileaks Volunteer Funded News Service.

    The American Main Stream Media has no shame and they display their audacity by saying that the founder of Wikileaks is paranoid, because of his experiences with Britain, America, and Sweden.

    Others have said that he has Delusions of Grandeur, because it is grand to serve other people, but the Dictators of America think that being Public Servants is Delusional compared to lying and stealing from the Public.

    The Dictators of America along with their Puppet Corrupt and Bribed America Main Stream Media are accusing the founder of Wikileaks of not being a Journalist.

    We all know that the founder of Wikileaks is an advocate for Truth and Justice, and so he is adequately qualified as a Journalist to comment on material, and to publish material in the Public Interest.

    We all know that the few of the many American Dictators are publicly asking for an Imperialistic version of a Fatwa were really speaking for most American Dictators, both Republicans and Democrats.

    The America Democrats like Resident of the Whites’ House Barack Obama, and Presidents Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton have not publicly asked for an Imperialist version of a Fatwa only because of how it would look for that Nobel Peace Prize Buyer Barack Obama.

    The American Statute on Espionage is very broadly drafted and it says that it is an offence to Gather, Transmit, or Receive Defence Information, and to do this while having Reasons to Believe that that information will be used to hurt America or help foreign countries.

    The only way to have these incompetent, complacent, and stupid idiots defend the interests of American Citizens is to have all American Secrets made Public, and for them to be supervised by the Public just like a Teacher supervises Children.

    Obviously, this means that nearly anyone in this world is Innocent of any trumped up charge of Espionage against America, because most people have GOOD Reasons to Believe that that Disclosed Information will be used to HELP America.

    All American Politicians know they number of American and non-American lives were put in danger because of President George W Bush’s lies on Iraq.

    We all know that the Dictators of America know all this, but they are not honest enough to admit it, and so they will go looking for Scapegoats for their incompetence, their treason against the America people, and to cover up their criminality.

    All those involved in the Wikileaks affair have made the Buffoons in the America Political and Public Service System more accountable.

    This embarrassing revelation will actually prod some of these Criminals and Buffoons to be slightly more interested in the Law and their jobs, and that may make a few of them do their jobs better.

    Do any of you remember President George W Bush and his lies concerning Iraq, and I wonder how many Americans are saying where was Wikileaks when we needed them?

    It is the same situation now, because one set of corrupt lowlifes who are incompetent and stupid, have been replaced by the Hope and Change lowlifes who are incompetent and stupid.

    It would not surprise too many people of All Colours to think that the term Hope and Change began as that Dope is Strange, but we cannot say that, so we will say Hope and Change.

    The only way to make these corrupt lowlifes incompetent stupid idiots do their jobs is to have them supervised by Alternative Media since the American Main Stream Media have been bribed to cover up for the Dictators of America.

    All the people who are responsible for Wikileaks publications of the American Undiplomatic Cables should be given the Nobel Peace Prize.

    We have seen certain American Politicians placing an Imperialist version of a Fatwa on an Independent Journalist who works for the Wikileaks Volunteer Funded News Service.

    The American Main Stream Media has no shame and they display their audacity by saying that the founder of Wikileaks is paranoid, because of his experiences with Britain, America, and Sweden.

    Others have said that he has Delusions of Grandeur, because it is truly grand to serve other people with unselfish and pure motives.

    However, the Dictators of America think that serving others is Delusional compared to lying and stealing from the Public.

    The Dictators of America along with their Puppet Corrupt and Bribed America Main Stream Media are accusing the founder of Wikileaks of not being a Journalist.

    We all know that the founder of Wikileaks is an advocate for Truth and Justice, and so he is adequately qualified as a Journalist to comment on material, and to publish material in the Public Interest.

    We all know that the few of the many American Dictators are publicly asking for an Imperialistic version of a Fatwa were really speaking for most American Dictators, both Republicans and Democrats.

    The America Democrats like Resident of the Whites’ House Barack Obama, and Presidents Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton have not publicly asked for an Imperialist version of a Fatwa only because of how it would look for that Nobel Peace Prize Buyer Barack Obama.

    The American Statute on Espionage is very broadly drafted and it says that it is an offence to Gather, Transmit, or Receive Defence Information, and to do this while having Reasons to Believe that that information will be used to hurt America or help foreign countries.

    The only way to have these incompetent, complacent, and stupid idiots defend the interests of American Citizens is to have all American Secrets made Public, and for them to be supervised by the Public just like a Teacher supervises Children.

    Obviously, this means that nearly anyone in this world is Innocent of any trumped up charge of Espionage against America, because most people have GOOD Reasons to Believe that that Disclosed Information will be used to HELP America.

    We all know that the Dictators of America know all this, but they are not honest enough to admit it, and so they will go looking for Scapegoats for their incompetence, their treason against the America people, and to cover up their criminality.

    All those involved in the Wikileaks affair have made the Buffoons in the America Political and Public Service System more accountable.

    This embarrassing revelation will actually prod some of these Criminals and Buffoons to be slightly more interested in the Law and their jobs, and that may make a few of them do their jobs better.

    Do any of you remember President George W Bush and his lies concerning Iraq, and I wonder how many Americans are saying where was Wikileaks when we needed them?

    It is the same situation now, because one set of corrupt lowlifes who are incompetent and stupid, have been replaced by the Hope and Change lowlifes who are also incompetent and stupid.

    It would not surprise too many people of All Colours to think that the term Hope and Change began as that Dope is Strange, but we cannot say that, so we will say Hope and Change.

    The only way to make these corrupt lowlifes incompetent stupid idiots do their jobs is to have them supervised by Alternative Media since the American Main Stream Media have been bribed to cover up for the Dictators of America.

    Those who are responsible for Wikileaks publications of the American Undiplomatic Cables should be given the Nobel Peace Prize.

    Private First Class Bradley Manning may lie and say that he is a traitor to the right to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness for his fellow Americans.

    This is because he is imprisoned in the Middle East where American Constitutional Law does not apply for him.

    He may be tortured into signing a false confession of treason in order to make it appear that the American Government is Honest and Pure.

    The American Government firstly placed Private First Class Bradley Manning by not teaching all School Children that America is an Evil and Lying piece of Nazi Filth that pretends to be Honest and Pure.

    Secondly, after Private First Class Bradley Manning served his country, he found a profound moral conflict of interest, because of what he saw and read on the American State Department files.

    He had this knowledge; either for better or worse, and it would remain with him for the rest of his life, as would his highly refined and sensitive conscience.

    At this stage, their does not appear to be any financial incentive for his alleged actions.

    Thirdly, they unnecessarily removed him away from American soil and placed him in a jail in a Middle Eastern country, where they know how to use torture to extract a false confession contrary to American Law and the American Constitution.

    The question remains is why was the Rendition of Private First Class Bradley Manning to the Middle East was necessary, except to torture him into lying that he is a traitor to his fellow American Citizens.

    This prisoner of conscience leaked the files because of the principles based on the Nuremberg Statement, and especially because of constant nagging of his refined and sensitive conscience and that became louder And LOUDER until he could no longer contain it.

    However, his Lawyer may advise him not to mention any of that, because the American Jury, if there is a Jury, will be stacked with disguised modern day American Nazis, and the Judge will promise leniency if he admits to being a traitor.

    The prisoner of conscience is a true American Patriot, but he may be pressured into saying that he is a traitor to America; because once again his treacherous Government has placed him in a very difficult situation.

    He will have to think of how his family will receive employment if he decides to tell the truth of how his conscience gave him no rest until he freed himself of those guilty secrets that he could no longer keep.

    We all know that the accused person has a support network, and that the City of Berkeley wants to award an Honour to the accused American Citizen, because he and the founder of Wikileaks cannot get the Nobel Peace Prize until next year.

    There are many American Citizens who think that those main players who are responsible for Wikileaks publications of the American Undiplomatic Cables should be given the Nobel Peace Prize.

  7. #7 THE
    December 14, 2010

    Do any of you remember President George W Bush and his lies concerning Iraq, and I wonder how many Americans are saying where was Wikileaks when we needed them?

    All Anglo-American Politicians know the number of American and non-American lives were put in danger because of President George W Bush’s lies on Iraq, and who were denied their right to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness, but the Dictators of America have hypocritically and conveniently remained silent on that.

  8. #8 Comment
    December 14, 2010

    Do any of you remember President George W Bush and his lies concerning Iraq, and I wonder how many Americans are saying where was Wikileaks when we needed them?

    All Anglo-American Politicians know the number of American and non-American lives were put in danger because of President George W Bush’s lies on Iraq, and who were denied their right to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness, but the Dictators of America have hypocritically and conveniently remained silent on that.

    Can any of us think that President George W Bush will be tried for treason and executed, yet these American Dictators are treating like Private First Class Bradley Manning and the founder of Wikileaks like criminals.

  9. #9 THE
    December 14, 2010

    Do any of you remember President George W Bush and his lies concerning Iraq, and I wonder how many Americans are saying where was Wikileaks when we needed them?

    All Anglo-American Politicians know the number of American and non-American lives were put in danger because of President George W Bush’s lies on Iraq, and who were denied their right to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness, but the Dictators of America have hypocritically and conveniently remained silent on that.

    Can any of us think that President George W Bush will be tried for treason and executed, yet these American Dictators are treating like Private First Class Bradley Manning and the founder of Wikileaks like criminals.

  10. #10 Greg Laden
    December 14, 2010

    Alan?

    “With all due respect I suggest you read the question again, this time a little more carefully, the question was “Did he?”. “He” being Manning and the “Did” part refering to the previously stated allegation that Manning had leaked the material. ”

    My transcript is incomplete (not meant to be complete). Assange is being asked if Manning leaked the cables to wikileaks.

    “What I’m really trying to ask is why you think this incident is worth pointing out to your readers?”

    Because it is intereting. At the time that this conversation was being held and shortly after wathced by millions as a Ted Talk, who could have known what was going to happen next? Do you not think this is interesting?

    Are you suggesting that Assange does not have a right to be dipomatic? Do you think it’s hypocitical for Assange to diplomatically avoid confirming a source? Or are you just amused by mundane irony?

    The irony is amusing but that is hardly the main reason it’s interesting.

    It is interesting for the same reason that the final draft of a speech that says “we have nothing to fear but fear itself” shows the original wording (different) crossed out with the words spoken by FDR written in.

  11. #11 THE
    December 15, 2010

    We all remember President George W Bush and his lies concerning Iraq; and I wonder how many Americans are asking where Wikileaks was when we needed them?

    All Anglo-American Politicians know the number of American and non-American lives were lost because of President George W Bush’s lies on Iraq.

    These American Citizens were denied their right to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness, but the Dictators of America have hypocritically and conveniently remained silent on that.

    The American Constitution doe not allow the Dictators of America to seek to rule the world, but do their best to ensure the Right of American Citizens, including the thousands of American Soldiers who were killed, and the many others who were serious injured to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit Of Happiness.

    Can any of us think that President George W Bush will be tried for treason and executed, yet these American Dictators are treating Private First Class Bradley Manning and the founder of Wikileaks like criminals?

    The following video titled: Free Bradley Manning Speeches by Marjorie Cohn, can be found on the internet at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7UsMNk0fTE.

    This is of course unless the CIA changes that internet address or its contents of the video to try to discredit what I saying in this comment.

  12. #12 THE
    December 15, 2010

    We all remember President George W Bush and his lies concerning Iraq; and I wonder how many Americans are asking where Wikileaks was when we needed them?

    All Anglo-American Politicians know the number of American and non-American lives were lost because of President George W Bush’s lies on Iraq.

    These American Citizens were denied their right to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness, but the Dictators of America have hypocritically and conveniently remained silent on that.

    The American Constitution doe not allow the Dictators of America to seek to rule the world, but do their best to ensure the Right of American Citizens, including the thousands of American Soldiers who were killed, and the many others who were serious injured to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit Of Happiness.

    Can any of us think that President George W Bush will be tried for treason and executed, yet these American Dictators are treating Private First Class Bradley Manning and the founder of Wikileaks like criminals?

    The following video titled: Free Bradley Manning Speeches by Marjorie Cohn, can be found on the internet at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7UsMNk0fTE.

    This is of course unless the CIA changes that internet address or its contents of the video to try to discredit what I saying in this comment.

  13. #13 THE
    December 16, 2010

    We have read how the City of Berkeley which wanted to award Private First Class Bradley Manning the Honour of being a Hero to America, but they have correctly and properly delayed a vote on the matter.

    This is because the City of Berkeley should not have moved on this matter until it has been proven in a Proper Court of Law if Private First Class Bradley Manning is the one who leaked the American Undiplomatic Cables to Wikileaks.

    The City of Berkeley in typical American fashioned has forgotten that anyone under suspicion is to be PRESUMED INNOCENT UNTIL FOUND OTHERWISE BY A PROPER COURT OF LAW.

    This is of course the correct position, because a person has to be found guilty in a Court of Law, and not in what the Media might say, or even what hearsay says.

    The City of Berkeley in California is a liberal City, and most people vote for the Democrats, and this may have been politically motived because of the recent Federal and State Elections.

    There are many possibilities here, and I will only mention the more obvious ones to illustrate why the Presumption of Innocence must be respected.

    What if a million Americans claimed that he was the one who leaked that Classified Information to Wikileaks, would that make all of them suspects?

    We may be correct in assuming that the person or persons behind this leak to Wikileaks were sane, and therefore had their motives.

    It could be that if a person heard about what someone else or others have leaked to Wikileaks, then they made have wanted to take the credit for it, or it could have been just booze talk.

    If a person knew of the leak, and then pretended that it was him to someone who is not the Authority, then he would be confident to be found innocent at his trial.

    The motivation is of course fame and fortune, or even infamy and fortune, but as long as there is the fortune along with the pronouncement of innocence.

    That is one end of the spectrum, and the other possibility is that Presidents Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton were the masterminds of this, and that Manning will receive a Pardon from Barack Obama, just before he hands over office to President Hillary Clinton.

    Berkeley is a liberal city that votes for the Democrats, and it is the Democrats who will lose a lot of votes if they do not manage to find whoever leaked the Cables to Wikileaks either innocent, or to say either truthfully or to lie and say that they cannot find who made the leak to Wikileaks.

    I am not suggesting that liberals will vote for the Republicans, although a few might; but America has voluntary voting, and the liberals may not vote at the next election.

    This is why President Hillary Clinton has not been Publicly calling for an Imperialistic version of a Fatwa on Manning, but the Democrats have left to the other side of the coin to do their dirty work, because the Democrats know that it will cost the Democrats votes.

    The Republicans do not have any worries as regards loss of votes with a person who could be portrayed as a traitor, even though, depending on testimony that is not extracted from torture may show that he is probably a Patriot and maybe even a Hero.

    The problem for both Political Parties in America is that regardless of who leaked the information, they are showing the world that they are not happy with being made to be honest, and that is why they are persecuting Private First Class Bradley Manning in a Middle East Jail, so that protests cannot be held at an American Jail.

    We can all be certain that Private First Class Bradley Manning’s Legal Defence Team, and even common sense have instructed him to answer no questions.

    We have learned from the Media that the American Government, is trying to make it look like there was coercion from the founder of Wikileaks on Private First Class Bradley Manning to make the leaks.

    We have seen attempts at this by asking why Wikileaks has not paid money to Private First Class Bradley Manning, because as far as President Hillary Clinton is concerned, she needs Julian Assange convicted in America for her election at the next American Presidential election.

    The reason for detaining a Presumed Innocent American Citizen in Contravention of the American Constitution is to bribe, pressure, or even torture him into doing the whims of President Hillary Clinton.

    Whoever leaked the information to Wikileaks did the American Community a great Public Service, because what we learn is that the Dictatorship is coming to America, regardless of Democrats or Republicans.

    The Democrats and the Republicans want to conceal the fact that the American Military must one day come home, and that they are now trained psychopaths who need an endless supply of victims.

    That supply of victims will not be foreigners, but American Citizens who have been disarmed because of being manipulated by a Puppet Uncle Tom using their stupid white guilt trip.

    The American citizens will be told criticism against the Unconstitutional policies of a Puppet Uncle Tom will because of their alleged racism, and not because of the evil policies.

    The Democrats and the Republicans both know all these things to be true, but they will not confess for the obvious reasons.

    They have their ready made excuses that were invented long ago, and all of this information is Classified Top Secret.

    The reason they are against even the low level Classified Information being leaked, is because others will be able to deduce what the Top Secret Information concerning the disarming of the American people, and the return home of America’s psychopathic Nazi Army.

    It should not surprise us if the Founder of Wikileaks has been bribed, pressured, or even intimidated into changing the original content of the UnDiplomatic American Cables.

    The American Government has made so many documents Classified, because that way they can intimidate anyone with commenting on their definition of Classified Information.

    I know that we are all wiser with hindsight, but a non-Nazi Hope and Change would have said what is done is done, and that persecuting those who may or may not have leaked this information, and those who are publishing it even in a changed form after they have been bribed and intimidated would not be in the Public Interest.

    I truly wish that I did not have to be the one of many to inform America’s Politicians, but I guess that if they do not know by now, then they need to firstly be advised as to how Americans are thinking, and they need to be reminded of their obligations to the American Public.

    The American People may soon rise up and kill all, and that means all American Politicians, Federal, State, and Local.

    That is why if even people like Ron Paul need to decide to leave Politics or to confess that he has been as corrupt as the rest of them all along, because if there is a cleansing, the cleansing will be complete.

    There will be no distinction between good Politicians or bad Politicians, because the only good American Politician will be a Dead American Politician.

    As far as the Main Stream Media is concerned, I have not been able to see the mood of the American people, but they may go down along with the bankers.

    There were many people who were hoping that the British Legal System was not subservient to the dictates of America.

  14. #14 THE
    December 17, 2010

    This article is an updated summary that combines the comments I have written on the Cablegate Affair, and I waive all copyright to this article.

    It is vital to firstly make your own copy of this article, and then to send a copy of this article to as many people as possible, because other countries have their own copy.

    There are American citizens who think that the founder of Wikileaks Public Information News Service is a traitor; others think that he is a hero; and yet others think that he is just an ordinary person committed to a better world.

    The American Government is entirely to blame for this scenario, which is the result of either Incompetence, Complacency, or Deliberate Design.

    WikiLeaks may in fact have done America a favour by preventing a new wave of potential spies against America, or stifling the work of existing spies against America.

    It is a natural but wrong human reaction to try to shift the blame away from ourselves and on to others.

    Many people are greatly distressed over this regrettable incident, because they see that innocent people are being persecuted and slandered as traitors only because they are working for an honest and just world.

    There is no need to guess that the Dictators of Britain, America, and the Nazis of Europe will use the instruments of the State to cover up their incompetence, their complacency, their being unfit for the job entrusted to them by the gullible American Voters, their scheming, their injustices, and their criminality.

    Their instruments are bad; and they have up till now resorted to slander, denial of internet and commercial services, consideration of false charges, and even contemplating the despicable use of Specially Invented Legislation.

    Motivated by malice and a desperate attempt to cover up their Treason, the American Dictators are encouraging the American public to think of the founder of WikiLeaks as a traitor to be hated and denied his legitimate Rights to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.

    This highly illegal and treasonous action of censoring Free Speech, the Cornerstone of the American Constitution, is occurring at this time, because the American Constitution is despised by the Dictators of America.

    The consequences will be less Human Rights and the total contempt for Rule of Law, in order to set up a Military Dictatorship in America.

    This could have been prevented if the elected Representatives of the American people had respected the American Constitution.

    Private First Class Bradley Manning actions were motivated because of his strong concern for his fellow Citizens, and because of his conscience together with the Nuremburg Trials Summary which said that the excuse of taking orders from superiors is not legitimate excuse for war crimes.

    This person was indoctrinated with the thoughts of America being noble, honest, and having pure motives along with the highest form of Democracy known to Humankind.

    He found that the reality was far different, and he found the situation intolerable because of the guilty secrets he could no longer keep to himself only.

    He only found relief because of the hope, and then the eventuality of sharing and entrusting these guilty secrets with Wikileaks, because he knew that Wikileaks really cared.

    This prisoner of conscience leaked the files because of the constant nagging of his refined and sensitive conscience that became louder And LOUDER until he could no longer contain it.

    However, his Lawyer may advise him not to mention any of that, because the American Jury, if the American Dictators allow a Jury, will be stacked with disguised modern day American Nazis, and the Judge will promise leniency if he admits to being a traitor.

    We cannot condone it if the prisoner of conscience lies by saying that he is a traitor; however, we should not condemn him either because once again his Treacherous Nazi Government has placed him in a very difficult situation.

    He will have to think of how his family will receive employment if he decides to tell the truth of how his conscience tormented him and gave him no rest until he freed himself of those guilty secrets that he could no longer keep.

    We all know that the accused person has a support network, and that the City of Berkeley wants to award an Honour to Private First Class Bradley Manning, because he and the founder of Wikileaks cannot get the Nobel Peace Prize until next year.

    It is interesting that the American Government cannot pass a Constitutional Law to limit the free speech of Americans.

    If the American Government did pass a law to limit the Free Speech of Wikileaks, then it is saying in effect that non-Americans are considered by America to be Second Class citizens, and that would be admitting too much.

    It is an old tactic by the unprincipled that if you cannot rubbish the message, then rubbish the messenger with slander and State Sponsored Terrorism by using the corrupt Judicial System of a country, and make sure it is labelled Democracy or International Community, or something else that a Public Relations Firm has been paid to Invent.

    The Dictators of America are biased and deliberately lying, because firstly they are Corrupt Lowlifes, and secondly they are too stupid for the jobs that the American Voters have entrusted them with.

    Wikileaks is like a Teacher that is Supervising Grade 1 Primary School Children, and we all know that if there were no supervision of the School Children by the Teacher, then it would not be beneficial for the Children or the Society.

    The only way to ensure that the Grade 1 Primary School Children do not steal from the canteen; that they do their work, and that they obey the rules is for a Teacher to Supervise Them.

    That is what the Corrupt, Bribed, and Intimidated Mainstream Media should have been doing all along, but they would deliberately ignore and even hypocritically persecute the whistleblowers because of American Government orders given to them.

    As we all know, such a situation would create a demand for what can be loosely but incorrectly termed a black market for ensuring liberty, freedom, democracy, a right to know, and a performance based accountability from the Government and from the Public Service.

    These Wikileaks Undiplomatic American Cables were available to 3 million Americans, and Wikileaks has performed a genuine Public Service by encouraging the Buffoons and Full On Retards in the American State Department to be more careful with their material.

    We have seen certain American Politicians placing an Imperialist version of a Fatwa on an Independent Investigative Journalist who works for the Wikileaks Volunteer Funded News Service.

    The American Main Stream Media has no shame or standards, and they display their hubris and audacity by saying that the founder of Wikileaks is paranoid, because of his traumatic experiences with Britain, America, and Sweden.

    Others have said that he has Delusions of Grandeur, because it is truly grand to serve other people with unselfish and pure motives.

    However, the Dictators of America think that being Proper Public Servants is Delusional compared to lying to people, and stealing money from the Public.

    The Dictators of America along with their Puppet Corrupt and Bribed American Main Stream Media are accusing the founder of Wikileaks of not being a Journalist.

    We all know that the founder of Wikileaks is an advocate for Truth and Justice, and so he is more than adequately qualified to be a Journalist, and therefore perfectly entitled to comment on, and to publish material that is definitely in the Public Interest.

    We all know that the few of the many American Dictators who are publicly asking for an Imperialistic version of a Fatwa were really speaking for most American Dictators, both Republicans and Democrats.

    The Right in America will more than likely win votes over this matter, but the Left could easily lose votes over this matter.

    The only reason American Democrats like Resident of the Whites’ House Barack Obama, and Presidents Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton have not publicly asked for an Imperialist version of a Fatwa is because of how it would look for that Nobel Peace Prize Buyer Barack Obama, and because of fear of loosing certain votes from the Left’s liberal base because many may not vote at the next election.

    The American Statute on Espionage is very broadly drafted and it says that it is an offence to Gather, Transmit, or Receive Defence Information, and to do this while having Reasons to Believe that that information will be used to hurt America.

    The only way to have these incompetent, complacent, and stupid idiots defend the interests of American Citizens is to have all American Secrets made Public, and for them to be supervised by the Public and the Media just like a Teacher supervises Children.

    Obviously, this means that nearly anyone in this world is Innocent of any trumped up charge of Espionage against America, because most people have GOOD Reasons to Believe that that Disclosed Information will and can only HELP America.

    We all remember President George W Bush and his lies concerning Iraq; and I wonder how many Americans are asking where Wikileaks was when we needed them?

    All Anglo-American Politicians know the number of American and non-American lives that were lost because of President George W Bush’s lies on Iraq.

    These American Citizens were denied their right to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness, but the Dictators of America have hypocritically and conveniently remained silent on that, and their silence speaks volumes.

    The American Constitution does not allow the Dictators of America to seek to rule the world, but do their best to ensure the Right of All American Citizens.

    Those Rights extent to and include the thousands of American Soldiers who were killed, and the thousands of American Soldiers who were seriously injured to have been deprived the Right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit Of Happiness.

    Can any of us think that President George W Bush will be tried for treason and executed, yet these American Dictators are treating Private First Class Bradley Manning and the founder of Wikileaks as if they were criminals?

    The Dictators of America know all this; however, because they are hardened liars, they are not honest enough to admit it, because they are hardened liars.

    The Dictators of America will go looking for Scapegoats for their incompetence and their treason against the American people, because they are desperate to cover up their Treason and their Criminality.

    The following video titled: Free Bradley Manning Speeches by Marjorie Cohn, can be found on the internet at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7UsMNk0fTE.

    This is of course unless the CIA changes that internet address or the contents of the video to try to discredit what I saying in this comment.

    All those involved in the Wikileaks affair have made the Buffoons in the American Political and Public Service System more accountable, and that is definitely in the Public Interest.

    This embarrassing revelation may actually prod some of these Criminals and Buffoons to be slightly more interested in the Law and in their jobs, and that may make a few of them do their jobs a little bit better.

    It is the same situation now, because one set of corrupt lowlifes who were corrupt, incompetent, and stupid, have been replaced by the Hope and Change lowlifes who are corrupt, incompetent, and stupid.

    It would not surprise too many people of All Colours to wonder if the term Hope And Change began as That Dope Is Strange, but we cannot say that during an election campaign, so we will say Hope and Change.

    The only way to make these corrupt lowlifes, and these incompetent stupid idiots do their jobs better is to have them supervised by Alternative Media, since the American Main Stream Media have been bribed with taxpayers’ money to cover up for the Dictators of America.

    All the people who are responsible for Wikileaks publications of the American Undiplomatic Cables should be given the Nobel Peace Prize.

    Private First Class Bradley Manning may be made to lie and say that he is a traitor to the right to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness for his fellow Americans.

    This is because he is imprisoned in the Middle East where American Constitutional Law does not apply for him.

    He is living under torturous conditions in a Middle Eastern Jail, and he may be physically tortured into signing a false confession of treason in order to make it appear that the American Government is Honest and Pure.

    The American Government firstly placed Private First Class Bradley Manning in a difficult situation by not teaching all School Children that America is an Evil and Lying piece of Nazi Filth that pretends to be Honest and Pure.

    Secondly, after Private First Class Bradley Manning served his country, he found a profound moral and ethical conflict of interest, because of what he saw and read on the American State Department files.

    He now had this knowledge; either for better or worse, and it would remain with him for the rest of his life, as would his highly refined and sensitive conscience.

    At this stage, their does not appear to be any financial incentive for his alleged actions; although, for injustices that he has already suffered, and continues to suffers, he should be financially compensated.

    Obviously, the Dictators of America will not pay him compensation, because they know that it would be tantamount to a confession of their Conspiratorial Treason against all American Citizens.

    It is up to individual Americans to contribute to Private First Class Bradley Manning as an expression of appreciation for keeping All Americans safe from the True Terrorists, the Dictators of America.

    Why was the Rendition of Private First Class Bradley Manning to the Middle East necessary, except to torture him into lying and making him say that he is a traitor to his fellow American Citizens against his will?

    It was a Prisoner or Prisoners of Conscience who leaked the files because of the principles based on the Nuremberg Statement, and especially because of constant nagging of his or her or even their refined and sensitive conscience or consciences.

    That constant nagging of the consciences of all those involved in the Wikleaks matter became louder And LOUDER until it could no longer be contained.

    However, the alleged offender’s Lawyer may advise him not to mention any of that, because the American Jury, if the Nazis allow a Jury, will be stacked with disguised modern day American Nazis, and the Nazi Judge will promise leniency if he admits to being a traitor.

    The alleged offender, even if he is found guilty, is a true American Patriot, but he may be pressured into saying that he is a traitor to America; because once again his treacherous Government has placed him in a very difficult situation.

    We all know that the alleged offender has a support network, and that the City of Berkeley wants to award an Honour to the accused American Citizen, because he and the founder of Wikileaks cannot get the Nobel Peace Prize until next year.

    There are many American Citizens who think that those main players who are responsible for Wikileaks publications of the American Undiplomatic Cables should be given the Nobel Peace Prize.

    We have read how the City of Berkeley which wanted to award Private First Class Bradley Manning the Honour of being a Hero to America, but they have correctly and properly delayed a vote on the matter.

    This is because the City of Berkeley should not have moved on this matter until it has been proven in a Proper Court of Law if Private First Class Bradley Manning is the one who leaked the American Undiplomatic Cables to Wikileaks.

    The City of Berkeley in typical American fashioned has forgotten that an accused person is to be PRESUMED INNOCENT UNTIL FOUND OTHERWISE BY A PROPER COURT OF LAW.

    This is of course the correct position, because a person has to be found guilty in a Court of Law, and not in what the Media might say, or even what hearsay says.

    The Hypocritical Left was saying that we declare him guilty, but we will propose an Honour to him, so that those liberals do not see that we are really just the other side of the Democrat Republican Coin.

    The City of Berkeley in California is a liberal City, and most people vote for the Democrats, and this may have been politically motived because of the recent Federal and State Elections.

    There are many possibilities here, and I will only mention the more obvious ones to illustrate why the Presumption of Innocence must Always Be Respected And Practiced.

    What if a million Americans claimed that he was the one who leaked that Classified Information to Wikileaks, would that make all of them suspects?

    We may be correct in assuming that the person or persons behind this leak to Wikileaks were sane, and therefore had their motives.

    It could be that if a person heard about how someone else or others have leaked Classified Files to Wikileaks, and he may have wanted to take the credit for it, or it could have been just booze talk.

    It is not a crime to lie to someone, but it is a crime to lie under oath in a Court of Law.

    In America a person does not have answer any questions, and until it gets to Court, no crime has been committed if a person keeps silent or even lies to those who are not in Authority.

    If a person knew of the leak, and then pretended that it was him who leaked it to someone who is not the Authority, then he would be confident to be found innocent at his trial.

    The motivation is of course fame and fortune, or even infamy and fortune, but as long as there is the fortune along with the pronouncement of innocence.

    That is one end of the spectrum, and the other possibility is that Presidents Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton were the masterminds of this, and that Manning will receive a Pardon from Barack Obama, just before he hands over office to President Hillary Clinton.

    Berkeley is a liberal city that votes for the Democrats, and it is the Democrats who will lose a lot of votes if they do not manage to find whoever leaked the Cables to Wikileaks either innocent, or to say either falsely or truthfully that they cannot find who made the leak to Wikileaks.

    I am not suggesting that liberals will vote for the Republicans, although a few might; but America has voluntary voting, and the liberals may not vote at the next election.

    This is why President Hillary Clinton has not been Publicly calling for an Imperialistic version of a Fatwa on Manning, but the Democrats have left it to the other side of the coin to do their dirty work, because the Democrats know that it will cost the Democrats votes.

    The Republicans do not have as many worries as regards loss of votes with a person who could be portrayed as a traitor.

    This is true even though any testimony that is not extracted from torture may show that the alleged offender is probably a American Patriot, and maybe even an American Hero.

    The problem for both Political Parties in America is that regardless of who leaked the information, they are showing the world that they are not happy with being made to be honest, because they are two sides of the same coin.

    This is why they are persecuting Private First Class Bradley Manning, and detaining him under torturous conditions in a Middle Eastern Jail, so that liberals cannot hold protests at an American Jail on American Soil.

    We can all be certain that Private First Class Bradley Manning’s Legal Defence Team; and even common sense have instructed him to answer no questions until a Court hearing.

    We have learned from the Corrupt and Bribed Puppet Media that the American Government, is trying to make it look as if there was coercion from the founder of Wikileaks on Private First Class Bradley Manning to make the alleged leaks.

    Attempts at this have been made by asking possibly misleading questions as to why Wikileaks has not paid money that was allegedly promised to Private First Class Bradley Manning.

    This is because as far as President Hillary Clinton is concerned, she needs Julian Assange convicted in America for her election at the next American Presidential election.

    The reason for detaining a Presumed Innocent American Citizen in Contravention of the American Constitution is to bribe, pressure, or even torture him into doing the whims of President Hillary Clinton.

    Whoever leaked the information to Wikileaks did the American Community a Great and Genuine Public Service, because what we learn from the leaks is that a Dictatorship is coming to America, regardless of Democrats or Republicans.

    The Democrats and the Republicans want to conceal the fact that the American Military must one day come home, and that they are now trained psychopaths who need an endless supply of victims.

    That supply of victims will not be foreigners, but American Citizens who have been disarmed because of being manipulated by a Puppet Uncle Tom using their stupid white guilt trip.

    The American citizens will be told criticism against the Unconstitutional policies of a Puppet Uncle Tom will only be because of their alleged racism, and not because of the evil policies.

    The Democrats and the Republicans both know all these things to be true, but they will not confess these things for the obvious reasons.

    They have their ready made excuses that were invented long ago, and all of this information is Classified Top Secret.

    The reason they are against even the low level Classified Information being leaked, is because others will be able to deduce what the Top Secret Information concerning the disarming of the American people, and the return home of America’s psychopathic Nazi Army.

    It should not surprise us if the Founder of Wikileaks has been bribed, pressured, or even intimidated into changing the original content of the Undiplomatic American Cables.

    The American Government has made so many documents Classified, because that way they can intimidate anyone with commenting on their definition of what constitutes Classified Information.

    I know that we are all wiser with hindsight, but a non-Nazi Hope and Change would have said what is done is done, and the continuing persecution of those who may or may not have leaked this information, and those who are publishing it, even in a changed form after they have been bribed and intimidated by Britain, America, and Sweden does not serve the Public Interest.

    I truly wish that I did not have to be the one of many to inform America’s Politicians, but I guess that if they do not know by now, then they need to firstly be advised as to how Americans are thinking, and they need to be reminded of their obligations to the American Public.

    The American People may soon rise up and kill all, and that means all American Politicians, Federal, State, and Local.

    That is why even people like Ron Paul need to decide to leave Politics or to confess that he has been as corrupt as the rest of them all along, because if there is a cleansing, the cleansing will be complete.

    There will be no distinction between good Politicians or bad Politicians, because the only good American Politician will be a Dead American Politician.

    As far as the Main Stream Media is concerned, I have not been able to see the mood of the American people, but they may go down along with the bankers.

    This is why both Political Parties in America are working together to find ways to unduly censor the Internet, so that the Corrupt and Bribed Puppet Main Stream Media can brainwash the Gullible.

    There were many people who hope that the British Legal System was based on Truth, Impartiality, and Justice; that it would cease to Abuse the Process, and that it was not Corruptly Subservient to the Dictatorial whims of America.

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    December 19, 2010

    Working closely within the Military, he was able to hear the Conspiracies the Dictators of America are scheming, and he put himself in harms way to protect, not just a few Americans, but all Americans.

    It is a known and proven fact that the American Army will have to come home one day, and if the Dictators of America who are cloaked as Public Servants can deceive the American people to become disarmed, and to give up their liberties, then it will make the eventual Dictatorship much easier to Establish.

    For those American Citizens who do not wish to be dull thinkers, they should watch the video titled “Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura The Gulf Oil Spill Season 2 – FULL LENGTH”, at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSMUhVcjJ94, unless of course the CIA changes the video and the internet location in a pathetic attempt to discredit this article.

    Another video worth watching is titled: “Rally for Bradley Manning- Blowing the Whistle on War Crimes is Not a Crime!” at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuhP_N0ZldA.

    We all know that the American Corporations control and fund the Dictators of America to create a Fascist State, and proof of this Fascist State is that America does not have 100% Public Funding for Elections.

    President Bill Clinton approved of giving wealthy Americans even more money to fuse the Corporations with the Government, which is Fascism.

    It would not surprise any of us if all of the Male Puppet and Blackmailed American Politicians have to be videoed ejaculating semen on young Children’s genitals before they receive Corporate funding for their Election Campaigns.

  16. #16 THE
    December 19, 2010

    Working closely within the Military, he was able to hear the Conspiracies the Dictators of America are scheming, and he put himself in harms way to protect, not just a few Americans, but all Americans.

    It is a known and proven fact that the American Army will have to come home one day, and if the Dictators of America who are cloaked as Public Servants can deceive the American people to become disarmed, and to give up their liberties, then it will make the eventual Dictatorship much easier to Establish.

    For those American Citizens who do not wish to be dull thinkers, they should watch the video titled “Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura The Gulf Oil Spill Season 2 – FULL LENGTH”, at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSMUhVcjJ94, unless of course the CIA changes the video and the internet location in a pathetic attempt to discredit this article.

    Another video worth watching is titled: “Rally for Bradley Manning- Blowing the Whistle on War Crimes is Not a Crime!” at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuhP_N0ZldA.

    We all know that the American Corporations control and fund the Dictators of America to create a Fascist State, and proof of this Fascist State is that America does not have 100% Public Funding for Elections.

    President Bill Clinton approved of giving wealthy Americans even more money to fuse the Corporations with the Government, which is Fascism.

    It would not surprise any of us if all of the Male Puppet and Blackmailed American Politicians have to be videoed ejaculating semen on young Children’s genitals before they receive Corporate funding for their Election Campaigns.

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