… the hazzards of sickness … should be provided for through insurance. This should be [charged to] the industries the employer, the employee, and perhaps the people at large … Wherever such standards are not met by given establishments, by given industries, are unprovided for by a legislature, or are balked by unenlightened courts, the workers are in jeopardy, the progressive employer is penalized, and the community pays a heavy cost in lessened efficiency and in misery. What [European country] has done in the way of old age pensions or insurance should be studied by us, and the system adapted to our uses, with whatever modifications are rendered necessary by our different ways of life and habits of thought.

That was Teddy Roosevelt in 1912.

What’s the difference between Teddy Roosevelt’s health care plan and Obama’s health care plan? There is only one important difference. Obama got it done.


  1. #1 CherryBombSim
    June 29, 2012

    I’m guessing that [European country] is Germany. They were well ahead of the curve at the time.

  2. #2 Greg Laden
    June 29, 2012

    Yes. I obscured the name of the country because it was distracting to the point I was crafting. If the Tea Party get hold of this fact there could be trouble.

  3. #3 wereatheist
    Berlin, Germany
    June 30, 2012

    If the Tea Party get hold of this fact there could be trouble.

    Oh yes, they know this Bismarck guy was a communist.
    And a fascist at the same time, of course.

  4. #4 Drivebyposter
    July 2, 2012

    Bismarck was also a ship. It’s awfully suspicious how he won’t make up his mind…

  5. #5 Greg Laden
    July 2, 2012

    port …. starboard …. port …. starboard …. port …. starboard …. damn.

  6. #6 wow
    July 2, 2012

    Daedalus, the null hypothesis would be: FTB atheists talk about sexism than the average. This also requires a second null assumption: atheists are no more or less likely to be sexist than any other group.

    Greg, Anthony Watts and Christopher Monckton believe the same way as you do and refuse to even consider whether their beliefs are wrong to ensure this state remains.

    At least they don’t post on a blogroll with the title —Free Thought — blogs. Thou they still manage a huge amount of hypocrisy about how you are not free to think some things…

  7. #7 wow
    July 2, 2012

    Wrong pigging thread. Apologies.