Living the Scientific Life (Scientist, Interrupted)

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Richard Dawkins responds to some hate mail sent by those architects of brotherly love, god’s own followers, christians.

Comments

  1. #1 Karen James
    October 18, 2009

    Two words: cognitive dissonance.

  2. #2 Ross
    October 18, 2009

    LOL! They can have my cheese when they pry it from my cold, dead hands.

  3. #3 David G
    October 18, 2009

    What good comes out of this?

  4. #4 Prodnose
    October 19, 2009

    To quote: “Atheism: the belief that there was nothing, and nothing happened to nothing, and then nothing magically exploded for no reason,creating everything, and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason whatsoever, into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs.
    Makes perfect sense.”
    However,some of Mr Dawkins’ correspondents should think black burning shame of themselves.

  5. #5 GMNightmare
    October 19, 2009

    Prodnose… that quote has nothing to do with this, nor is it even right.

    Atheists don’t have to believe that there was nothing in the beginning and then something. Nobody has ever said that. What, Big Bang theory? The Big Bang theory assumes energy had existed before it’s occurrence, it never states it came from nothing. And for that matter, the reason everything rearranged itself are theories abiogenisis and natural selection coupled with evolution.

    Understandable though you wouldn’t know this, science is never a strong suit for religious.

    Let’s fix the quote in reverse:
    Theists: the belief that there was nothing, and something was there (even though it was just declared there was nothing), and then that something magically created everything for no reason at some random point out of nothing, magically rearranging things with seemingly no reason or logic whatsoever, and then screwed over his creations with a bunch of BS.

    I know your quote originated as a rebuttal to this:
    “The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree… yeah, makes perfect sense.”
    Or perhaps this was the rebuttal… who knows.

  6. #6 draven
    October 20, 2009

    not sure what this is in response to other than hate mail but something sure hit a never

  7. #7 chrisD
    October 20, 2009

    “Atheism: the belief that there was nothing, and nothing happened to nothing, and then nothing magically exploded for no reason,creating everything, and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason whatsoever, into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs.
    Makes perfect sense.”

    I’m sorry but this quote has been making the rounds on the net and it’s faultily premised. For one, there is no evidence that it requires a deity to create a universe. They are, by the current evidence alone, more likely to spring up spontaneously. Second, a singularity is hardly nothing. Third: the reasons for the order we see present don’t speak to specific creation – we just happen to live in a Universe with the laws and interactions necessary to observe that these laws and interactions are the way they are. It is highly probably that such a thing might not have occurred in this particular way, but that we’re around to observe it means it has. If it hadn’t, we wouldn’t be having this discussion, so it’s a moot point. Perhaps this type of universe is the only possible outcome at the outset due to ever more fundamental laws we don’t yet grasp, perhaps we’re a fluke. The quote seems to decide the latter for no apparent reason other than to imply absurdity.

    It’s quite an annoying little quote used by little gits everywhere who do not understand what it is they’re implying either. Theism: The belief that there was always something but where that something came from is a mystery in the first place, and that something decided to create something else, but it wasn’t competent enough to create something instantly, so it relied on some other method which then confused his little somethings into thinking that the automation was unintended by a Something, and they reasoned that there must, in fact, be Nothing after all.
    Makes perfect sense.

  8. #8 James Sweet
    October 20, 2009

    Yeah really. It’s freakin’ hilarious that atheists have the reputation for being smug. That “Atheism: The belief that nothing….Makes perfect sense.” canard is about the most smug theist bullshit I’ve ever heard. Not to mention the title of Ray Comfort’s book.

    When it comes to smugness, I plead not guilty. Or at least, less guilty than people who think they are in possession of a book that is absolutely true… now that’s a bit smug!

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