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In which my words will be misinterpreted as "proof" that I am a "pharma shill"

Category: CancerClinical trialsMedicinePolitics
Posted on: January 22, 2007 10:01 AM, by Orac

I would have written about this one on Friday, except that Your Friday Dose of Woo had to be served up. (You did read last week's YFDoW, didn't you? It was a particularly loopy bit of woo, with a bad computer interface grafted on to it, to boot!) The reason I wanted to write about it is because the responses to this particular bit of news in the blogosphere grated on me, for reasons that will become apparent soon.

It's about a new cancer drug that I learned about from both fellow ScienceBlogger Jonah and readers who forwarded articles about it to me. If you believe some other bloggers (one of whom, Ezra Klein, who really should know better, even gave his article the utterly ridiculous title Objectively Pro-cancer), it sounds a lot like a "miracle cure" that "they" don't want you to know about, if you know what I mean. Yes, if you believe blogs like Daily Kos (especially the comments, many of which sound as though they come from Kevin Trudeau wannabes), it's one more bit of evidence of big pharma supposedly "suppressing" yet another cheap near-miraculous cure for cancer. Here's the story:

It sounds almost too good to be true: a cheap and simple drug that kills almost all cancers by switching off their "immortality". The drug, dichloroacetate (DCA), has already been used for years to treat rare metabolic disorders and so is known to be relatively safe.

It also has no patent, meaning it could be manufactured for a fraction of the cost of newly developed drugs.

Evangelos Michelakis of the University of Alberta in Edmonton, Canada, and his colleagues tested DCA on human cells cultured outside the body and found that it killed lung, breast and brain cancer cells, but not healthy cells. Tumours in rats deliberately infected with human cancer also shrank drastically when they were fed DCA-laced water for several weeks.

DCA attacks a unique feature of cancer cells: the fact that they make their energy throughout the main body of the cell, rather than in distinct organelles called mitochondria. This process, called glycolysis, is inefficient and uses up vast amounts of sugar.

Until now it had been assumed that cancer cells used glycolysis because their mitochondria were irreparably damaged. However, Michelakis's experiments prove this is not the case, because DCA reawakened the mitochondria in cancer cells. The cells then withered and died (Cancer Cell, DOI: 10.1016/j.ccr.2006.10.020).

Michelakis suggests that the switch to glycolysis as an energy source occurs when cells in the middle of an abnormal but benign lump don't get enough oxygen for their mitochondria to work properly (see diagram). In order to survive, they switch off their mitochondria and start producing energy through glycolysis.

I looked up the paper and read it, although not yet in as much depth as I would like to. I also have to point out that my memory of the finer points of glycolysis and mitochondrial aerobic energy production is a little shaky. Even so, whether it is the cause of cancer (less likely) or a consequence of the genetic derangements in cancer cells (more likely), I have to admit, targeting the Warburg effect is a way cool idea, and the experiments are pretty convincing in cell culture and in rats. Basically, this is an idea that goes back 75 years or more, namely that tumor cells are metabolically different than normal cells in that they can survive on the less efficient process of glycolysis, rather than having to use aerobic metabolism. It's been well known that many, if not most, tumors are metabolically more active than the normal tissues from which they arise. Indeed, increased glucose metabolism resulting in increased avidity in taking up glucose is the entire basis of positron emission tomography (PET scans). What's different is that many cancer cells continue to use glycolysis even when there is sufficient oxygen present to switch on the aerobic process of oxidative phosphorylation in noncancer cells, a process that takes place in tiny structures called mitochondria. The concept behind this drug was to target this difference, as the article explains:

Crucially, though, mitochondria do another job in cells: they activate apoptosis, the process by which abnormal cells self-destruct. When cells switch mitochondria off, they become "immortal", outliving other cells in the tumour and so becoming dominant. Once reawakened by DCA, mitochondria reactivate apoptosis and order the abnormal cells to die.

"The results are intriguing because they point to a critical role that mitochondria play: they impart a unique trait to cancer cells that can be exploited for cancer therapy," says Dario Altieri, director of the University of Massachusetts Cancer Center in Worcester.

Indeed they appear to. In rats, tumor weights in the treated animals were approximatel 60% lower than the tumors in the untreated control groups (my reading of the data in the paper, figure 8). The drug increase apoptosis, decreases proliferation, and inhibits tumor growth by acting on a critical enzyme that controls the switch between aerobic and anaerobic metabolism. The results of this study are likely to result in new targeted therapies aimed at mitochondria and, even better from an intellectual and scientific standpoint, rekindle the old argument about the metabolic changes in cancer cells, specifically: Which comes first, the metabolic or genetic derangements in tumor cells?

So where do I put on my pharma shill hat? Patience, dear readers. First, you must read this from the investigators in a different news story:

It is expected there would be no problems securing funding to explore a drug that could shrink cancerous tumors and has no side-effects in humans, but University of Alberta researcher Evangelos Michelakis has hit a stalemate with the private sector who would normally fund such a venture. Michelakis' drug is none other than dichloroacetate (DCA), a drug which cannot be patented and costs pennies to make.

It's no wonder he can't secure the $400-600 million needed to conduct human trials with the medicine - the drug doesn't have the potential to make enough money.

Michelakis told reporters they will be applying to public agencies for funding, as pharmaceuticals are reluctant to pick up the drug.

At roughly $2 a dose, there isn't much chance to make a billion on the cancer treatment over the long term.

And now the responses from bloggers that irritated me. First, Daily Kos:

It seems to good to be true. A cheap, effective cancer cure that BigPharma doesn't own. If further research proves effective in humans, it could be the answer to many peoples prayers. I've always thought something simple, rather than the current convoluted regimen of surgery, radiation and chemicals would be the cure for cancer.

Again, if proven effective, will we ever see it in use in this country? Will patients have to take 'DCA tours' to Canada for treatment?

Yes, you spotted some real ignorance right there when this Randular character claimed DCA is likely a "cure" for cancer and that the cure for cancer would likely be "simple" (as if cancer were one disease!), but what I'm more interested in is the spin being put on this story. Spin like this, from Digby:

And here I thought the pharmaceutical companies had to charge such high prices because of all the research they were doing. Seems without the possibility of future revenue they can't be bothered. Of course, a cheap cure for cancer would cut into profits in so many ways, wouldn't it?

Yet another claim that this might be a "cure" for cancer and that pharmaceutical companies are being downright evil for not being immediately interested in it. And here's a guy blogging under the 'nym akaoni opining:

Big Pharma won't put up the dough to fund human research and enable this drug to come to market, there's no money in it. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me to discover that they had an interest in actively preventing the research so as to maintain demand for more expensive less effective drugs. This drug looks to be extremely promising, and I can't imagine that it won't get government funding for human trials, but that said, it doesn't pay to underestimate the power of Big Pharma...

Time for a reality check, and to lay down some Respectful Insolence™ on these guys, who sound disturbingly like alties in many ways, so much so that perhaps I should get them Kevin Trudeau's contact information:

1. This drug has only been tested in cell culture and rats. Yes, the results were promising there, but that does not--I repeat, does not-- mean the results will translate to humans. In fact, most likely, they will not. Those of us who've been in the cancer field a while know that all too common are drugs that kill tumors in the Petrie dish and in mice or rats but fail to be nearly as impressive when tested in humans. In the 1980's it was immunotherapy. Man, some immunotherapies totally melted tumors away but, sadly, didn't do nearly as well in human trials. The same is true of antiangiogenic therapy, pioneered by my surgical and scientific hero Judah Folkman. In 1998, it was all over the media (see pictures below) that antiangiogenic therapy would be the "cure" (or at least would turn cancer into a manageable chronic disease). These drugs dramatically shrank tumors in mice in two major studies published in Cell and even induced tumor dormancy, as described in Nature. Guess what? They didn't do the same thing in humans. Don't get me wrong, antiangiogenic drugs have proven to be a useful addition to our anticancer armamentarium (not to mention an area of research interest for me). However, remember the saying: "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is." Well, it probably is in the case of DCA.

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2. Cancer is not a single disease. It is many diseases, and requires many different approaches. This drug showed activity against several cancers in vitro, but there are conventional chemotherapeutic drugs that also show activity against lots of cancers. In fact, the comparison to antiangiogenics becomes even more relevant here, because antiangiogenic drugs theoretically could act against any cancer. That's because they target normal cells lining blood vessels, which are needed to grow new blood vessels to supply tumors with blood and oxygen. These cells are very stable, and much less prone to the mutations that cancer cells undergo with such frequency that can lead to resistance. In contrast. DCA targets the tumor cells themselves, which are far more likely to develop resistance. Bloggers ranting against big pharma are showing magical thinking in assuming that this drug will work against nearly all tumors, given that at best only 60-90% of cancers even demonstrate the Warburg effect. Indeed, remember how I mentioned that in this study DCA inhibited tumor growth by 60% or more in rats? Pretty impressive, yes? Compare this result to that obtained by angiostatin and endostatin, both of which melted experimental mouse tumors away to a few dormant cells. Neither were anywhere as impressive against human tumors. That doesn't mean antiangiogenics aren't useful cancer drugs (Bevicuzimab, in particular is quite effective at potentiating the effect of chemotherapy in colorectal cancer, for example), but they are useful in the same way that a number of chemotherapeutic agents are usefu: as an additional weapon. They are not miracle cures, and I'd be willing to bet that DCA isn't, either.

3. Here's where the worst misinformation is being spread about this story. It will not cost $600-800 million to do clinical trials to test this drug, yet certain bloggers are acting as if that much money will be needed to to see if this drug works in humans. That's just a load of crap. That figure refers to the total cost of bringing a new drug to market, from idea to research and development, to synthesis, to cell culture and animal studies, to patent applications, to all the clinical trials needed, to filing the regulatory documentation, all of which together can sometimes approach $1 billion. It does not refer to the amount of money required to do a clinical trial to see if there is efficacy in humans, the logical next step after what has been published thus far. In contrast to what's being spewed into the blogosphere, to run a preliminary trial to determine if there is evidence of efficacy in humans could be done for costs that are well within the means of an investigator, if he's willing to apply for grants. All he would require is a few hundred thousand dollars for a small preliminary trial (less ideal) or probably between $1 and $5 million for an intermediate-sized Phase II study against one tumor (it's the Phase III trials, with thousands of patients, that cost tens of millions of dollars). Most NIH R01 grants are funded for between $1 and $2 million (mine's for a little more than $1.3 million over 5 years), and clinical R01 grants can be funded for up to a few million dollars. Thus, this is not by any means an unreasonable amount of money to be trying raise to do the trial to confirm in humans the preclinical data and, if the effect is as great in humans as it is in animals, should be adequate to detect the drug's promise. If that turns out not to be a big enough sample, then that would imply either that (1) this drug isn't effective at all in humans or (2) isn't any more effective than many other conventional chemotherapeutics that we already have. True, the funding climate sucks these days, but Michelakis is funded by grants from the Canadian Institutes for Health Research (CIHR), Alberta Heritage Foundation for Medical Research (AHFMR), and Canadian Foundation for Innovation. He's perfectly free to apply to the NIH and other organizations for funding. Given such compelling preclinical data, hewould stand a very good chance of being funded.

4. Lastly, there was nothing stopping the investigator from patenting the idea of using DCA to treat cancer. I know someone who is doing just that for a use of a drug that's FDA-approved for treating something totally unrelated to cancer. indeed, I sincerely hope that Michelakis has, in fact, done this, because now that his results have published it's too late; the cat's out of the bag. If he had done that, he could then have licensed his idea to whatever pharmaceutical company was interested, and that pharmaceutical company would then have had a patent on the use of this drug to treat cancer. If Michelakis hasn't done that, well, I applaud his idealism (or curse his naïveté); he shot himself in the foot and made his idea less appealing to industry.

I'm not in any way saying that it isn't a problem that drug companies show little or no interest in potentially promising new compounds that they can't patent. It can be a problem, just as "orphan" drugs often don't make it to market because there aren't enough patients who could benefit from the them to make it profitable for drug companies to invest in developing and marketing them. In those cases, there are government programs to encourage the manufacture of these drugs. Perhaps a similar sort of program should be in place for situations like this or perhaps tax incentives to encourage pharmaceutical companies to manufacture drugs like this. Also, if this drug were truly the miracle cure that it's being represented as, believe me, pharmaceutical companies would find a way to make money off of it, either by trying to modify it to make it more effective or adding a molecule to target it more closely to the cancer cell.

What irritates me about the hysteria some bloggers are whipping up over this is that it is at its heart basically paranoid conspiracy mongering, and the reason this story has any legs at all is because people are inherently distrustful of big pharma. There are some good reasons for this and many reasons that boil down to little more than an inherent distrust of big corporations. Even now, for example, our old "friend" Dean Esmay is likening big pharma's disinterest in DCA to its disinterest in the use of high dose vitamin C against cancer. Never mind that Dean doesn't know what he is talking about when it comes to the alleged efficacy of vitamin C against cancer. Never mind that vitamin C never in even Linus Pauling's hands showed anywhere near the efficacy against cacncer cells in vitro and in animal models that DCA has. Never mind that even high dose vitamin C has shown in essence no evidence of efficacy against cancer in humans. Given those facts, it's not surprising that pharmaceutical companies aren't interested in vitamin C as a treatment for cancer, regardless of its cost or patentability.

What is most pernicious about the conspiracy-mongering stories being spread about DCA is that it builds false hope. People with cancer hear about this drug, and they think there's an amazing cure out there that's being withheld from them because of the greed of big pharma. Big pharma may show a lot of greed at various times, but that's nonetheless a very distorted version of the true situation. I agree with a a blogger going under the 'nym of Walnut (the only blogger I've yet found thus far who knows enough to refrain from the usual pharma bashing over this):

But this all plays into people's yen for conspiracy theories. Big Pharma hates us. And yes, I've indulged in this on my blog, I know, I know. Big Pharma is bad. But they also make money off of healing people.

You know what the worst part of this DCA flap is? It builds false hope. And when it comes to cancer, I think there are fewer things crueler than building false hope. It's sadism, as far as I'm concerned.

Yes, it's very easy and satisfying to take this promising preliminary study and build from it a conspiracy theory of evil big pharma "keeping cures from the people." It's just not very accurate and it adds too much heat and noise to the debate over the real shortcomings in our system of developing new drugs that make drug companies reluctant to pursue research on drugs that show promise but little profit potential. There are real, systemic problems with the financing of drug development and how drugs are marketed, but hyperbole and conspiracy theories don't address these problems; they obscure them.

Look for DCA to be featured as yet another cure "they" don't want you to know about in Kevin Trudeau's next book.


ADDENDUM: Walnut has posted his critique on Daily Kos as well.

All Orac posts on DCA:


  1. In which my words will be misinterpreted as "proof" that I am a "pharma shill"
  2. Will donations fund dichloroacetate (DCA) clinical trials?
  3. Too fast to label others as "conspiracy-mongers"?
  4. Dichloroacetate: One more time...
  5. Laying the cluestick on DaveScot over dichloroacetate (DCA) and cancer
  6. A couple of more cluesticks on dichloroacetate (DCA) and cancer
  7. Where to buy dichloroacetate (DCA)? Dichloroacetate suppliers, even?
  8. An uninformative "experiment" on dichloroacetate
  9. Slumming around The DCA Site (TheDCASite.com), appalled at what I'm finding
  10. Slumming around The DCA Site (TheDCASite.com), the finale (for now)
  11. It's nice to be noticed
  12. The deadly deviousness of the cancer cell, or how dichloroacetate (DCA) might fail
  13. The dichloroacetate (DCA) self-medication phenomenon hits the mainstream media
  14. Dichloroacetate (DCA) and cancer: Magical thinking versus Tumor Biology 101
  15. Checking in with The DCA Site
  16. Dichloroacetate and The DCA Site: A low bar for "success"
  17. Dichloroacetate (DCA): A scientist's worst nightmare?
  18. Dichloroacetate and The DCA Site: A low bar for "success" (part 2)
  19. "Clinical research" on dichloroacetate by TheDCASite.com: A travesty of science
  20. A family practitioner and epidemiologist are prescribing dichloracetate (DCA) in Canada
  21. An "arrogant medico" makes one last comment on dichloroacetate (DCA)

Posts by fellow ScienceBlogger Abel Pharmboy:


  1. The dichloroacetate (DCA) cancer kerfuffle
  2. Where to buy dichloroacetate...
  3. Local look at dichloroacetate (DCA) hysteria
  4. Edmonton pharmacist asked to stop selling dichloroacetate (DCA)
  5. Four days, four dichloroacetate (DCA) newspaper articles
  6. Perversion of good science
  7. CBC's 'The Current' on dichloroacetate (DCA)

Comments

Hey, the Geiers are trying to patent their Lupron protocol for the bogus treatment of autism. Why can't the DCA protocol for cancer be patented? Hell, it doesn't even have to be proven to work - it just has to be novel.

Posted by: anonimouse | January 22, 2007 10:29 AM

Off topic, but congrats on hitting 1,000,000 served!

I might also add that a PubMed search for "efficacy xenograft" reveals over 2,000 publications, a great many with experimental agents showing efficacy similar to or better than DCA.

The truth is that there are hundreds, if not thousands, of compounds competing for investment dollars of pockets big enough to develop these agents. Hence, many agents, inexpensive and not so, fall by the wayside because of cost barriers and competition with other worthy drug candidates.

Targeting the Warburg effect in cancer is a pretty cool idea that I'd like to see tested comprehensively, but there is just a hell of a lot of competition out there, with most decisions made by business/marketing folks, not always the docs and scientists.

Posted by: Abel Pharmboy | January 22, 2007 10:51 AM

4. Lastly, there was nothing stopping the investigator from patenting the idea of using DCA to treat cancer. I know someone who is doing just that for a use of a drug that's FDA-approved for treating something totally unrelated to cancer.

Exactly. Just because the compound can be synthesized cheaply doesn't mean the drug has to be sold or dispensed for next to nothing. The use in human patent will make it attractive to drug companies just like several other antineoplastic agents that are dirt cheap to make.

Nitrogen mustard is still used to treat certain cancers and it's pretty simple and cheap to make.

Posted by: notmercury | January 22, 2007 11:47 AM

When you see a ridiculous title from some who should know better, you should consider that it might just be a joke...

Posted by: Ezra | January 22, 2007 11:58 AM

At this point, whenever I hear anyone use the phrase 'Big X', I mentally substitute "the devil". There is never a loss of meaning.

Posted by: dzd | January 22, 2007 12:01 PM

Anti-stroke drugs are another example of drugs that have shown promise in in vitro experiments and in animal models yet, were unsuccessful in human clinical trials. In regard to the involvement of energy metabolism in a disastrous disease such as cancer, your readers might be interested to know that there is evidence that the mecahnism of other diseases, notwithstanding their genetic basis, involves altered energy metabolism (Alzheimer's disease and Parkinsonism, to name two).

Posted by: S. Rivlin | January 22, 2007 12:33 PM

Orac,
When I read this newspaper story, I immediately wondered what was stopping physicians from prescribing this med off-label to their cancer patients. Since the safety is already known, is there anything stopping them? Besides the fact that they would only obtain anecdotal evidence on way or another, I guess.

Posted by: Jennifer | January 22, 2007 12:37 PM

Orac -- you, of course, are familiar with CRISP, the online search application for information on NIH-funded research, but it may be new to some of your readers. I note that NCI is funding 171 studies related to mitochondria and cancer; this is hardly an overlooked area! Interestingly, the only specific mentions of dichloroacetate in all of NIH are environmental health studies looking into the mechanisms of its toxicity. No; it is not "harmless" in the broadest sense.
Bottom line: NCI is very interested in studies of mitochondrial activity in cancer, and it looks like dichloroacetate is wide open -- so PIs, start your engines!

Posted by: jre | January 22, 2007 1:16 PM

If DCA anti-cancer action is mainly via its ability to activate a dormant mitochondrial K+ channel, then, there are other compounds more specific and less toxic than DCA that can do the same. It would be interesting and probably important to compare DCA anti-cancer activity to one or more of these compounds to find out about their efficacy and toxicity.

Posted by: S. Rivlin | January 22, 2007 1:55 PM

I was wondering why he was going private sector for funding when there are public funds available for these tests. At least, I thought there were. I'm at the University of Calgary and we hear all the time about our cancer research centre, but never really in the context of a private donor.

Maybe I just don't understand how medical testing works re: funding, but if something is promising and has press, the Alberta government will be all over it to fund as it makes them look rather good.

And this might be urban university legend only, but I was under the impression that certain sections of the university could not have corporate sponsorship, so that might also contribute to it.

I guess my mind just doesn't jump to "conspiracy!" fast enough.

Posted by: Jess | January 22, 2007 3:49 PM

ORAC:

thx for doing such an extensive review of the claims being made for DCA. Hopefully it'll get some play over there.

Posted by: boojieboy | January 22, 2007 4:23 PM

All this cost/profit talk has me thinking about the whole process again. I've seen quotes of hundreds of millions of dollars to get a new drug to market and I don't doubt them. My question is, is there anything we can do to make this better? We talk endlessly about the patent process and the number of patients and whether we're providing enough profit incentive to get the research done. What can we do on the other side, though? If we could lower the cost in the first place, we wouldn't have to do worry nearly about generating huge potential revenues through patents or large numbers of patients. The revenue bar to jump over and into the black would just be a lot lower. I want to make it profitable to find a cure for a rare but terrible disease, and it would be really nice if that profitability could come from a less expensive R&D cycle than from insanely high prices for an already unlucky few.

I'm really not familiar with the drug R&D industry at all, so I can't make any suggestions. Is there a way to (safely) change regulations? Can we do more to subsidize research? We subsidize domestic energy and food production in the name of national security. How do those subsidies compare to government support for homegrown pharmaceutical research? Anybody have any thoughts (he asks, knowing full well that he'll probably be buried in answers)?

Posted by: Troublesome Frog | January 22, 2007 4:37 PM

Guide to conspiracy theories regarding Big Pharma (or the US government or some other powerful 'bad guy') and Disease X:

1. Big Pharma suppresses the cure for Disease X because there is no money in it for them.

2. There is no Disease X; Big Pharma just wants us to think that there is because there is money in it for them.

3. There is a Disease X, but Big Pharma can't cure it; we'd never get it in the first place if we would just (eat raw foods, see a chiropractor etc).

4. Big Pharma created Disease X, either a) as a side effect of its 'cure' for Disease Y or b) deliberately, because it wants to make more money.

Posted by: Colugo | January 22, 2007 5:34 PM

If Ray thought of 'Big Pharma' instead of 'Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man' in Ghostbusters, what would they have had to fight?

Posted by: Lucas McCarty | January 22, 2007 6:15 PM

The kneejerk backlash against pharma companies really irritates me. But then I would say that wouldn't I. The pharma companies have had a huge impact on quality of life, as well as length of life. Just off the top of my head, antidepressants, bisphosphonates, antiepileptics and antiparkinsonism drug have had massive impacts. I could go on and on.

Yes, 'Big Pharma' is a bit naughty from time to time. They introduce isomers that have no benefit over the parent compound (compare esomeprazole with omeprazole), and they play about with dosage forms: Tritace (ramipril) caps were withdrawn a few months before the patent ran out and tabs introduced, the same with Flomax (tamsulosin). They bring out modified release preparations that have no advantage over standard products: Cardura (doxazosin) and Cardura XL. But part of my job is to guide doctors through this maze and advise them on the most cost effective choice.

Colugo, conspiracy theory 2 does has a ring of truth to it. Of course the condition actually exists, but once a new drug is approved for it the marketing and education machines go into overdrive - I got stacks of information on restless legs syndrome from GSK once Mirapexin was approved for it.Theory 4 also has a ring of truth: corticosteroid induced osteoporosis and gastric ulceration anyone? 1 and 3 are total bollocks though.

Posted by: ukcommunitypharmacist | January 22, 2007 6:20 PM

I hope I'm on record as solidly rejecting any and all conspiracy theories claiming that pharmaceutical companies have suppressed or are suppressing new discoveries in order to protect their profits.
With that out of the way, let me gently suggest that there is a reason people find such theories plausible: it's because pharmaceutical company executives behave like unprincipled scum. From the Wall Street Journal, 03 Jan. 2007, we have an article titled "Inside Abbott's Tactics to Protect AIDS Drug." Here's an excerpt:


At one point the executives debated removing Norvir pills from the U.S. market and selling the medicine only in a liquid formulation that one executive admitted tasted like vomit. The taste would discourage use of Norvir and competitors' drugs, the executives reasoned, and Abbott could claim it needed Norvir pills for a humanitarian effort in Africa. Another proposal was to stop selling Norvir altogether.

(Chart showing US sales of Kaletra climbing from $20M in 2000 to $400M in 2005, with $500M projected for 2006)

A third proposal carried the day: quintupling the price of Norvir. One internal document warned the move would make Abbott look like a "big, bad, greedy pharmaceutical company." But the executives expected a Norvir price hike would help Kaletra sales, and they bet any controversy would eventually die down.
They were right. Kaletra sales in the U.S. rose 10% over the next two years. Some objected that the price hike made it harder for patients who needed drug combinations pairing Norvir with non-Abbott pills to get their medicine. After an initial burst, the criticism faded, partly because Abbott exempted government health plans and AIDS drug-assistance programs from the Norvir price increase.

Anyone else think there's more than Norvir that tastes like vomit here?


This is the central contradiction in the existing system for drug R&D. On the one hand, Abbott executives see sick people as a resource to be exploited by any means, fair or foul. On the other hand, without Kaletra, Norvir and the rest of the pharmacopeia, there are a lot of living people who would be dead.

Posted by: jre | January 22, 2007 6:44 PM

Just for clarification, does DCA stand for 'dichloroacetic acid', or for 'dichloroacetate', implying that it is in a salt form, or perhaps an ester of the acid?

Posted by: Renee | January 22, 2007 6:45 PM

Troublesome Frog,

Well, we could stop doing so much of that pesky safety and efficacy testing. Don't hold your breath for that, though. The current push is in the other direction. Recent criticism of the FDA says it should be doing even more to ensure that rare but serious side effects are detected before approval.

But never fear, there's an easy solution. One that doesn't compromise safety or efficacy testing at all. We just need to get better at predicting which drugs are worth testing in the first place.

Right now, a drug that enters Phase 1 testing has something like a 10% chance of being approved. Bump that up to 30% or 50% and drugs will get a lot cheaper.

By the way, if you figure out how to do that, please PLEASE let me in on the secret. Your net worth will probably make Gates look middle class.

Humor aside, I don't know what else we can do. No doubt there are some other changes that would have modest benefits (although which changes is hotly debated). But for dramatic improvements, we either need to decrease the cost of getting a successful drug approved, or decrease the amount of money spent on unsuccessful ones. IMO, of course.

Posted by: qetzal | January 22, 2007 6:54 PM

Points well taken. I may have been a bit hyperbolic in the title and content of my post (Will Cancer Panacea Go Unfunded?), but from the information from the NewScientist.com article, DCA did sound rather promising. Regardless, thank you for your comments and your post. It's easy to read something that reinforces preconceptions and jump to conclusions. I am not a doctor or a scientist, nor am I intimately familiar with the process of testing and bringing medications to market. From the content of the article DCA didn't sound as though it was going to be a profitable venture, and as such may well have been ignored by the pharmaceutical industry. You have informed me that I may have been incorrect on this count. I did however state that I believed that DCA would receive public funding, and if it is promising it certainly should.

That said, my point was not to make DCA out as a surefire cure for Cancer, nor was it to raise expectations of some miracle drug. Rather, it was to highlight some of the problems that exist today in the development and distribution of useful and important drugs, and to point out that profit motives for big corporations is not always a positive force.

I will admit that I am rather reflexively distrustful of big corporations, not because I think they're inherently evil, but because they are largely amoral constructs, whose purpose is not to serve the public good, but rather to generate profit. This is certainly not all bad; we know that corporations help drive the economic engine of the US and provide both goods and services for public consumption. But they do not make decisions based on what is good for the nation or the world at large, instead they make decisions to make money and please their shareholders. In the case of pharmaceuticals this can have some negative consequences, including unprofitable drugs being ignored, drugs being rushed to market before adequate testing has taken place, or drugs being priced at too high a level for people who need them to afford them.

Finally, while I am not wholeheartedly opposed to alternative medicine, I am by no means an "altie." I place a great deal of importance on the development and distribution of medications which will serve the public. It is for this reason that the article on DCA caught my attention in the first place.

Posted by: akaoni | January 22, 2007 6:58 PM

Renee, they are the same.

Posted by: Robster | January 22, 2007 7:34 PM

Lucas McCarty: "If Ray thought of 'Big Pharma' instead of 'Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man' in Ghostbusters, what would they have had to fight?"

The familiar 'fat cat'?
http://www.newstarget.com/019956.html

As much as I enjoy making fun of conspiracy theorists, I have to admit that there are small elements of truth to some of the recycled chestnuts I listed, as UK Community Pharmacist points out.

Posted by: Colugo | January 23, 2007 1:47 AM

When you see a ridiculous title from some who should know better, you should consider that it might just be a joke...

It sure didn't sound like a joke to me, Ezra. Look at what your first words were after your ridiculous title "Objectively Pro-cancer":

Digby lights on the sort of story that makes my blood boil:

So the title's a "joke" but you're outraged enough to say that the story "makes your blood boil"? Sorry, I don't buy it. You said something stupid, and I called you on it. Just admit it. We all screw up every now and then and put our foots in our mouths, so to speak.

Posted by: Orac | January 23, 2007 9:08 AM

Two points:

1) It's possible to criticize our current drug development system without indulging in conspiracy theories. I thought Matt XIV, a commenter on my post, really nailed the problem: "This is a major blindspot of the incentive structure of the patent/FDA approval system. If you can't patent the compound, it is often impossible to make a profit on it after the expenses of clinical trials. DCA as a compound may be cheap, but DCA as a drug is expensive, because it isn't considered a legit drug until it goes through clinical trials, which aren't cheap whether the money is recouped by charging monopoly prices for the finished product or collected via taxation." I don't expect pharm companies to fund drugs that aren't lucrative or potentially profitable. However, unless the system is fixed, promising treatments (like DCA) will end up being ignored because they are too cheap. That seems nonsensical. We shouldn't make it more difficult to fund clinical trials for less expensive medicine.

2) It's possible to talk about possible cancer drugs that seem promising in rodents without engaging in a celebration of "woo," as you like to call it. As I noted in my blog post, "Chances are, of course, that DCA won't turn out be a miracle cure. (This isn't the first anti-cancer drug to look great in the lab, and it won't be the last.)" If you want to have a serious discussion about the state of research and drug development then I suggest you stop labeling all who disagree with you as conspiracy mongers who peddle false hope.

Posted by: Jonah | January 23, 2007 12:29 PM

Thanks for doing this post. I've had something very similar in the works for a few days now, but Movable Type troubles behind the scenes have kept me from posting.

As someone who has been earning a living doing oncology drug discovery, I can tell you that this is a very interesting idea - and is nothing more than that until it gets into humans. Which, as you point out, it most certainly can, considering it's already used in humans for other indications. More when I can get it onto my site!

Posted by: Derek Lowe | January 23, 2007 1:17 PM

Thanks for posting a very interesting and informative article! I don't think "Big Pharma" "suppresses" cures, but the disconnect between the social benefit produced by cheap treatments, vaccines, etc., in the form of reduced mortality and morbidity, reductions in lost economic productivity, etc., and the relatively low levels of profit derived from their sale proves that we cannot rely exclusively on the private market to develop new treatment and therapy strategies.

Posted by: knutsondc | January 23, 2007 7:31 PM

Jonah:

Three points (because when you're as long-winded as Orac always is, two is never enough):

1. I didn't once use the word "woo" in this post. I did, however, point out that some of the bloggers ranting against "big pharma" on this on this were clearly exhibiting magical thinking that is bordering on altie-like, if not already there, Read the specific posts that I linked to (particularly Digby and akaoni) if you don't believe me. I stand by my characterization. And, no, I am not labeling "all who disagree" as "conspiracy mongers peddling false hope" and tried to be specific in picking my targets, restricting my "insolence" to some egregious examples of specific bloggers who are guilty of that. In addition, my comments were so vociferous because I really believe this sort of thing is harmful. Again, I stand by everything I wrote in this post.

2. You were pointedly not one of the bloggers mentioned as demonstrating that magical thinking, although I did take you to task in the comments of your own blog for repeating the half-accurate factoid that it would take "hundreds of million" dollars to test this drug in humans. At the risk of irking you again, though, it is hard not to remind you that you did entitle your post "When promising cures are ignored" (emphasis mine), not "When promising drugs are ignored." Whether that was just sloppy on your part or done in order to tweak, it did catch my attention. In any case, DCA is almost certainly not a "cure" and is certainly not being ignored; it's getting more attention at the moment than just about any anticancer compound I can think of. In any case, I only mentioned that I had learned of the story through you (and some readers) at the very beginning of my post in order to send a little traffic over to a fellow ScienceBlogger. You seem to have taken this a bit more personally than is warranted.

3. Nowhere did I say that it isn't possible to talk about promising cancer drugs that work in rodents without engaging in a "celebration of woo" (a term, again, that I did not use in my post or in either of the two comments that I left on your blog). In fact, my main objection to the sort of spin being put on the DCA story by the Kos diarist, Digby, et al is that it is unproductive and muddies up the very discussion you want to have about problems getting pharmaceutical companies interested in drugs that aren't patented and therefore have little profit potential. In short, it generates a lot of heat and no light. Quoth I:

I'm not in any way saying that it isn't a problem that drug companies show little or no interest in potentially promising new compounds that they can't patent. It can be a problem, just as "orphan" drugs often don't make it to market because there aren't enough patients who could benefit from the them to make it profitable for drug companies to invest in developing and marketing them.

See? I acknowledge that it there is a problem with the incentive structure for developing new drugs. And here's me explaining why the blogosphere's take on this story irritated me so much:

What irritates me about the hysteria some bloggers are whipping up over this is that it is at its heart basically paranoid conspiracy mongering, and the reason this story has any legs at all is because people are inherently distrustful of big pharma. There are some good reasons for this and many reasons that boil down to little more than an inherent distrust of big corporations.

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What is most pernicious about the conspiracy-mongering stories being spread about DCA is that it builds false hope. People with cancer hear about this drug, and they think there's an amazing cure out there that's being withheld from them because of the greed of big pharma. That's a very distorted version of the true situation.

[...]

Yes, it's very easy and satisfying to take this promising preliminary study and build from it a conspiracy theory of evil big pharma "keeping cures from the people." It's just not very accurate and it adds too much heat and noise to the debate over the real shortcomings in our system of developing new drugs that make drug companies reluctant to pursue research on drugs that show promise but little profit potential.

I realize that I may be a tad on the blunt side sometimes, but I think you're over-reacting.

Posted by: Orac | January 24, 2007 7:47 AM

Derek:

Thanks for chiming in. It's good to hear from someone actually in the business. (I'm in academia.)

Posted by: Orac | January 24, 2007 7:49 AM

"Read the specific posts that I linked to (particularly Digby and akaoni) if you don't believe me. I stand by my characterization."

Orac, I can't agree with you here , particularly on your slagging off of Ezra.

Proving a drug's safety and efficacy takes $$$. Not as much as the numbers the pharma industry throws around (which come from two academics at Tufts: basically, they're are economic costs [i.e. including expected return on investment] counting in discovery overhead and failures, not accounting costs for one specific drug). A pharma company CFO is *required* by fiduciary duty to get a return on capital for their shareholders. They can't get the requireed return on investment. It isn't a question of individual morality of the CEO or CFO or any conspiracy here.

Now, it's not out of the question the non-patentability could be worked around given that a pharma company, with smart medicinal chemists like Derek, could derivatize DCA to both improve it and make it patentable (a methyl group here, a phenyl group there, and soon you're talking real money). Or a synergistic patentable co-formulation could be found, analogous to the augmentin antibiotic.

But there is a structural problem with developing non-patentable molecules as drugs, and with developing drugs for diseases with small patient pools ('orphan drug' incentives aren't sufficient). A possible solution might be to have a non-profit fund the drug, or have the government have [smaller] firms bid on a contract to develop the drug, using CRO's for the clinical trials and relying on the generic drug makers to pick it up once it went through Phase III. We do have potential policy levers to solve this problem (although the DHHS's experience sponsoring vaccine development in Project BioShield doesn't give one hope on its effective execution.)

Posted by: No Longer a Urinated State of America | January 24, 2007 11:29 AM

Orac, you write: Lastly, there was nothing stopping the investigator from patenting the idea of using DCA to treat cancer. I know someone who is doing just that for a use of a drug that's FDA-approved for treating something totally unrelated to cancer.

I'm confused by this, and would like you to expand on it... My understanding of the patent system is that you can patent an inventions, but you can't patent an "idea". To give an example from the high-tech world, if you have a patent on an algorithm, you can't restrict people from describing that algorithm, but you can stop them from selling computer software that uses that algorithm with a license from you.

So how is a patent on the "idea of using DCA to treat cancer" supposed to work? As long as it's legal to sell DCA without a license from a patent holder, and it's legal for doctors to prescribe it, how can a patent holder get royalties when a doctor prescribes DCA for a patient with cancer?

What I can imagine is getting a patent on a particular treatment that has DCA as part of the treatment... Maybe the researcher finds that you need to use it with a different drug to be safe and effective, and patents the combination. If one then takes this combination through clinical trials, only the combination would be available by prescription, and the inventors would be assured of their royalties.

But my understanding of the patent system is that treating new conditions with old drugs is not protectable with a patent. Am I wrong on this?

Posted by: Alex R | January 24, 2007 11:32 AM

The researchers did, in fact, file a 'use' patent:
more on DCA

Posted by: Peter K | January 24, 2007 1:36 PM

Today there are thousands of pets dying from CANCER! Let's try DCA on them in the hope that they may live. This could speed up the approval process for human trials.

Posted by: Bill Oldknow | January 26, 2007 4:00 PM

Bill Oldknow, I agree. That's actually the reason I'm browsing these sites to get a fuller picture of the efficacy of this DCA treatment for possibly my dog suffering from cancer. DCA seems like a safe treatment as an alternative to chemotherapy.

However, I'm going to try to find out more. This blog doesn't explain much with vague unscientific negatives such as the following statements:

- "However, remember the saying: "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is." Well, it probably is in the case of DCA."

- "They are not miracle cures, and I'd be willing to bet that DCA isn't, either."

What role does "probably" or "bet[ting]" play in an objective blog? None whatsoever, unless the article is biased. It's really deceptive to claim to be a science blog ... However, as a reader, I do appreciate the effort in providing an alternative perspective, even if it is biased, as it provides me another data point.

As for the defense of pharmaceutical corporations ... I have personally stayed away from all forms of drugs for the last decade or so with no ill effects. I think it is more than possible to avoid these drugs if a healthy lifestyle is substituted. These pharma drugs are for profit NOT necessarily for health since there are inexpensive, safer alternatives available. These pharma drugs are probabilistic ventures into our health; seems like more a risk than its worth. However, it probably provides a job support structure for all those NIH research applicants out there and provides an appearance of validity for the pharmaceutical corporations.

Posted by: Arun | January 28, 2007 11:47 AM

Arun,

Give me a break. You cherry picked two statements from a very long post and then dismissed them as "not scientific." In actuality I explained exactly why caution is warranted, after summarizing the results of the reported research and how DCA is thought to function and correcting misinformation that's being spread about how much it would cost to do the next clinical trial necessary to demonstrate DCA's efficacy. Long is the list of drugs that seemed to be almost miraculous cancer cures in mice but failed in humans. It is possible that DCA may be just as miraculous as it's being billed as. However, based on my experience doing cancer research and studying antiangiogenic compounds, I tell you that it's far more likely than not that it is no miracle cure.

As for your comment that big pharma "provides a job support structure for all those NIH research applicants out there and provides an appearance of validity for the pharmaceutical corporations," well, that's exactly the sort of conspiracy-mongering I was talking about in my post. By the way, perhaps you could "educate" me as to the "inexpensive, safer alternatives available" to treat cancer. DCA may turn out to be just such a thing, but I'm unaware of any cheap "alternatives" that are as efficacious as the combinations of surgery, chemotherapy, and radiation. I (and pretty much every doctor that deals with cancer) wish there were such "alternatives." In any case, here's your chance to shine and teach us all a lesson.

Posted by: Orac | January 28, 2007 12:59 PM

Peter K, I checked the official U.S. patent office website, the For Dummies website, and other websites for more information and found out that the U.S. has 3 basic patent types: utility, design and plant. The most common kind and the kind which I think applies to drugs is the utility patent. SCOTUS has also, apparently, extended patents in other ways, to include other (non-plant) living organisms.

I couldn't find any information, even on Canada's patent website, on "use patents." Perhaps they're known by a different name or perhaps it's because searching with "use" returns a million unrelated results.

Could someone in the know clarify this? Also, like Alex R questioned, how could something like this be enforced regardless of jurisdiction beyond perhaps advertising? FYI, I think the "no ideas" thing only applies to copyrights, not patents.

Posted by: Nathan J. Yoder | January 30, 2007 2:45 AM

I have a Google Alerts set for DCA and this is the best and most complete series of blog posts that I have seen.

In the face of hopig for miracles, it is important to be realistic in ones expectations.

I am not sure what patents they might or might not have. None are evident at http://patents1.ic.gc.ca/intro-e.html

I was curious about one thing. I have seen DCA refered to as Sodium Dichloroacete also. Is this the same as what is refered to in the article or is it a variation?

Phil

Posted by: Phil Monk | January 30, 2007 10:45 AM

Would like to point out the chemotherapeutic drug DFMO which acts as a depressor of the ODC enzyme,which has a key role in the Synthesis process of Polyamine molecules.
The drug showed very promising results at the the in vitro stage but did poorly at the human experimental stage. big disappointment.

I would also like to suggest that you write a post about the polyamines molecules. this important molecules receive little if any exposure to the public eye(though I'm sure most of the public couldn't care less).

Posted by: areh | January 30, 2007 11:22 AM

It's pretty easy to believe that money is more important than human lives to many powerful entities.

If we pretended for a moment that we lived in a world without Cancer and AIDS, the money that would be lost would certainly be in the billions, a number that would be out of touch with the average individual.

The sad part is that while no cures have been found that I know of, there are scientists that have created much better treatments than chemotherapy with exponentially higher success rates, keeping cancer in remission while giving a better quality of life - and you'll never hear about these treatments.

There have been doctors and scientists in jail under claims of fraud and violating various FDA laws - families destroyed and lives lost - according to law and a justice system that doesn't care if the treatment "works", only if it was processed or sold according to rules set up by the FDA.

What if these treatments were natural and couldn't be patented by a drug company?

Truth is stranger than fiction.

Posted by: Mike | January 30, 2007 11:49 AM

Peter and Nathan,

A "use" patent loosely refers to a utility patent with claims drawn either to a new use for a compound (e.g., "Use of DCA for curing cancer.")or to a method employing the compound (e.g., "A method of curing cancer comprising administering a therapeutically effective dose of DCA."). Generally, using a new compound in an old method may be patentable. You may not have found teh applications because patent applications are not published until 18 months after they were filed.

Posted by: Alan | January 30, 2007 1:01 PM

Mike stated: The sad part is that while no cures have been found that I know of, there are scientists that have created much better treatments than chemotherapy with exponentially higher success rates, keeping cancer in remission while giving a better quality of life - and you'll never hear about these treatments.

So, do you have any references where I can find documentation of the exponentially higher success rates for these treatments?

Posted by: tonyl | January 30, 2007 3:59 PM

The sad part is that while no cures have been found that I know of, there are scientists that have created much better treatments than chemotherapy with exponentially higher success rates, keeping cancer in remission while giving a better quality of life - and you'll never hear about these treatments.

Do tell.

I agree with tonyl: Educate us about these treatments with "exponentially higher success rates." Oh, and intravenous vitamin C doesn't count, nor does Laetrile; neither has an "exponentially higher success rate" in treating cancer. In fact, neither of them does much of anything against cancer.

Posted by: Orac | January 30, 2007 5:15 PM

Re the type of patent called by the name 'utility' -

This is the legal term for what is commonly called a 'use' patent. There are 3 main things which must be satisfied for a use patent to be granted:

1. The item/substance/thing must have some practical application, and have been reduced to practice, that is shown by some testing to be useful in this application.*

2. It must be a novel idea, that is a new idea to use the thing/substance/item for this practical application.

3. The novel idea to use the item/substance/thing in this practical application must be unobvious to one skilled in the art of that particular field.

Which means, in this case of DCA, that this substance has the practical application of treating cancer, that it has been shown by some testing that it has utility in treating cancer (even if it's in vitro), that using this substance to treat cancer is a new idea, and that it would be unobvious to persons in fields like medical/pharmaceutical research that this substance would/could be useful in treating cancer.

Patent-wise, it doesn't matter that DCA is a substance that's been around a long time, that it's an organic acid that probably has use in organic synthesis, etc.

If there had already been any scientific papers out there by prior researchers who have worked with DCA and shown that it does/might have some cancer-fighting properties, than this would keep the Alberta researchers from being able to file for a US patent. And now that the Alberta researchers have announced publicly that DCA has promise as a cancer drug, this would keep a pharmaceutical company from being able to patent this substance for treating cancer.

If the Alberta researchers had checked to see that there were no prior publications or public presentations on DCA and cancer, then they could have filed a patent application (it can take 1-3 years for the actual patent to be granted). Only after the application could they have gone public with their findings. As it is, the cat is out of the bag, so to speak.

*You cannot patent a new, practical application of a thing/item/substance without showing by some sort of testing that it has practical value. A person can't just say, "I'm sure that DCA can fight cancer in vitro. Now I'm going to file for a patent!" The patent office will ask for proof (i.e., tests of some sort) that DCA actually has a negative effect on cancer cells.

Getting a patent is not the same as getting FDA approval to market a drug for a particular illness/condition. The patent office does not require clinical trials. However, without getting FDA approval, the drug company can't sell the drug. What patents do is protect a company from having their competitors sell the same substance/item/thing for the specified practical use, for a specified number of years.

Posted by: Renee | January 30, 2007 5:26 PM

In those blogs and stories on DCA, DCA is referred to as a drug well tested and used as a therapy for other (unspecified as fas as I've seen) conditions. Is this true?

If so, what's to stop me from getting this from my doctor regardless of trials or patents? How would a patent for a drug already in use for other condition(s) be applied to its use for cancer(s)?

Thanks.

Posted by: Luckynumberxiii | January 30, 2007 5:46 PM

The sad part is that while no cures have been found that I know of, there are scientists that have created m