Respectful Insolence

Today, in case you didn’t remember, is World Homeopathy Day, a day for the credulous to celebrate the woo that is homeopathy by celebrating the birthday of the originator of homeopathy, Samuel Hahnemann. I had thought of making a “homeopathic” mention of this great event (in other words, no mention, just like there’s no active ingredient in a homeopathically diluted and succussated remedy), but then I remembered that, according to the principles of homeopathy, the more you dilute something, the stronger it is. Thus, by homeopathic “reasoning,” not mentioning World Homeopathy Day would be even more potent a reminder for the credulous than just this brief mention.

Comments

  1. #1 Joe
    April 10, 2007

    Orac- “Thus, by homeopathic “reasoning,” not mentioning World Homeopathy Day would be even more potent a reminder for the credulous than just this brief mention.”

    That is the sort of convoluted, straight thinking that makes us come back to your blog.

  2. #2 Doug
    April 10, 2007

    A couple of years ago, I was in Paris and found myself, quite inadvertently, in front of Hahnemann’s grave (which proudly hails his homeopathic accomplishments).
    Strolling past, I muttered “fucking idiot.”
    Sure, it wasn’t much. But, hey, we all do what we can.

  3. #3 Gerard Harbison
    April 10, 2007

    Your argument needs framing.

    “Conventional medicine knows about the healing powers of water too. In fact, we recommoned you drink several pints of it a day!”

    (Just don’t apply it directly to the forehead)

  4. #4 Abel Pharmboy
    April 10, 2007

    To support your lack of support for World Homeopathy/Homaeopathy Day, I hereby submit a link to a classic pharmacy education paper by Prof Steven Pray entitled, “The Challenge to Professionalism Presented by Homeopathy.” Although more than 10 years old, his arguments still hold quite nicely and point out, among other things, the incongruous nature of homeopathy with dose-response pharmacology. Perhaps I shall take a moment this day to compliment my colleague, Dr Pray.

  5. #5 Skeptico
    April 10, 2007

    I think I’ll post an article about this myself, but using only 10% of the words you used.

    Perhaps another blogger will then post using 10% of the words I used…

    Eventually it should be a really potent argument.

  6. #6 qetzal
    April 10, 2007

    Skeptico wrote:

    I think I’ll post an article about this myself, but using only 10% of the words you used.

    Perhaps another blogger will then post using 10% of the words I used…

    Eventually it should be a really potent argument.

    Don’t you need to dilute those words with 9 parts random words or something? Plus, make sure you shake your computer really hard before you post.

  7. #7 Kapitano
    April 10, 2007

    As I understand it, homeopathy states that the more you dilute something that’s bad for you, the better it is for you, and the more you dilute something good, the worse its effects.

    So homeopathic sleeping pills “contain” caffine, and a homeopathic practicioner who wanted to poison you would use highly dilute penicillin.

    So surely having the flu is caused by having very very few cold viruses in your bloodstream, and the cure would be to inject a load more. And those with the lowest levels of vitamin should be least likely to get scurvy.

    Personally, I find the more dilute people’s knowledge of homeopathy, the more they give it credence, and the more I read about it, the less impressed I become.

    So they must be right.

  8. #8 ilya
    April 10, 2007

    What do people do on world homeopathy day? Do they gather at Samuel Hahnemann’s very own DC memorial?
    http://www.dcmemorials.com/index_indiv0001740.htm

  9. #9 Orac
    April 10, 2007

    Holy crap! I was just in Washington three weeks ago. Had I known, I would have made a pilgrimage to take some–shall we say?–interesting pictures.

  10. #10 Thony C.
    April 11, 2007

    “A couple of years ago, I was in Paris and found myself, quite inadvertently, in front of Hahnemann’s grave (which proudly hails his homeopathic accomplishments).
    Strolling past, I muttered “fucking idiot.”
    Sure, it wasn’t much. But, hey, we all do what we can.”

    If I were to follow your example I would rapidly run out of swear words as I walk past the university were Hahnemann got his doctorate every day. I also walk down Hahnemannstrasse most days of the week.

  11. #11 TheProbe
    April 11, 2007

    All I can say about World Homeopathy Day is ” “.

  12. #12 mark
    April 11, 2007

    I could never understand:
    All those remedies taken by people, excreted, flushed to septic system, seeping down to ground water, discharging to streams, flowing to oceans…why are there sick fish?

  13. #13 Kelly
    April 11, 2007

    Today is World Homeopathy Day.
    Today is World Homeop
    Today is Worl
    Today is W
    Today i
    Tod
    To
    T
    [What Orac said]

  14. #14 Bob
    April 12, 2007

    You speak with all the confidence which comes from ignorance. There is good scientific evidence that homeopathy works. On a personal level it cured me (permanently took it away) of hayfever and numerous other things over the years.

    If you want to do a personal experiment, buy a bottle of Arnica montana 30C in a health food store for less than $10. Wait for an accident like hitting your thumb with a hammer, shutting it in a car door, spraining your ankle, or something similar where there is a significant bruising injury. If you can’t wait then just get out the hammer and have fun! At any rate, after the injury immediately take a pellet of the medicine under your tongue and experience that it does relieve the pain and swelling quickly.

    Otherwise you will probably remain opinionatedly ignorant in regard to homeopathy. If you do this experiment you will then have another problem- you will know that it works and you will not know why it works. Hopefully that will be humbling. So be forewarned, it may be more than you can handle!

  15. #15 Nes
    April 15, 2007

    Apparently Bob doesn’t know about confirmation bias, and is completely unaware of all the controlled studies of homeopathy that show results no better than placebo. (A nod to Skeptico for that link.)

  16. #16 Ricky-If Lenz's law is true Homeopathy is flase
    February 10, 2008

    Homeo medicines are prepared this way
    if you start with mother tincture say 1gram of any homeo medicine then shake with 10 gram of alcohol then you get 1X then 1 gram 1X of it with 10 gram of Alcohol you get 2x
    with 1 gram of 2X with 10 gram of alocohol 3x this process
    goes on so when you reach 24X which is equal to 12C how much number of origiinal substance present in 1 gram of the medicine it is about 0.0000000000000000000000001 gram
    and in 1 gram 30C has orginal substance is 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001gram
    So the Homeopaths agree that after 24X dilusion there ivery less chance of getting a single molecule because of the avagadro number
    Now the Homeopaths claim that it works on the basis of some induction theoratically if we agree that itr works on the basis of induction(say for example you can theoreticalyy create infinite number of magnets from one magnet)
    Homeopaths claim that effect of induction generate healing power in the body they call it healing power and the induction they call it mechanical force .They experience this mechanical force when proving.
    So the mechanical force is implied by the medicine by some induction and the opposite reaction to it heals the body
    So the homeopaths claim is Homeopathy works due to induction(there is no other choice)

    But there is a law in Physics called Lenz’s law
    Lenz’s law states that any induced electromotive force will be in the direction such that the flux it creates will oppose the change in the flux that produced it.
    It says that the system behaves in such a way that the effect is minimized but never says that
    The reaction to the action exceeds the action itself therefore
    The claim by the homeopaths that opposite reaction of the Mechanical force(which is cause by some form of induction according to them)
    Creates vital force and and Mechanical force go way But Vital force(curing force) does not go so the body heals
    It is totally baseless and false if Lenz’s law and Physics is true Homeopathy is false

    Homeopathy states that
    if a person takes homeopathy medicine he gets some symptoms in his body like if you take Acconite you will get fever If you take homeo Acid phos You will feel weakness loss of memory etc but if you have those symptoms already present in the body that time if you take homeo medicines then those symptoms will be cured there is no
    reason why it should happen

  17. #17 Dr. Nancy Malik
    June 7, 2008

    Homeopathy cures where Conventional Allopathic Medicine (CAM) fails

  18. #18 HCN
    June 7, 2008

    Yeah, sure… ya betcha! Just show us some evidence. Though the mean time while you search for more blog entries to spam (like you did here:
    http://forums.randi.org/forumindex.php) I present this:
    http://whatstheharm.net/homeopathy.html

  19. #19 HCN
    June 7, 2008

    I knew I recognized her, and here she is:
    http://forums.randi.org/search.php?searchid=1504995 … she even has her own thread asking for answers to specific questions.

    But she just could not break her spamming habit… She kind of got herself banned:
    http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=3540850#post3540850