Respectful Insolence

Maybe next Ted Haggard will give his approval.

Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | March 24, 2008 2:33 PM

"Faith and science can easily co-exist in the rational mind." As soon as science disproves an article of faith then that faith must be abandoned or it isn't a rational mind.

Posted by: vlad | March 24, 2008 2:45 PM

It sounds like Expelled (or at least the parts dealing with the Holocaust) is one long argument from consequences. In other words, they don't claim, "Evolution didn't happen, and here's why not," but that "teaching evolution is dangerous." Not only is this a fallacy, but there is no case to be made that so-called Darwinism leads to all these social ills. It strikes me as a manipulative appeal to emotion.

Posted by: ShellyD99 | March 24, 2008 2:47 PM

Yes, vlad, as someone who has been studying evolutionary biology for lo these past 20 years, I'm dismayed to discover that I completely missed this bit:

Darwinism, of course, does not permit for the existence of a supreme being, a higher power, or a God.

Darwinazi says: "NO GOD FOR YOU!"

Keep digging, boys. With the god-talk that has permeated this film's publicity, the rickety 'it's not a religion, it's a science!' pedestal upon which ID currently stands will disintegrate faster than through any blows we could have administered ourselves.

Posted by: DanioPhD | March 24, 2008 2:52 PM

I clicked that link and it took me almost a minute to stop laughing just looking at the header image. It says "Rush is a massive &*^*$ beyond all &*^*$" more than words ever could. What says, "I care about people and my opinions matter" more than a picture of oneself in an expensive suit smoking a fat cigar. He's like walking evidence for Freudian theory.

Once I finally got to the article, the laughter began again. Leftists are afraid of God eh? So does that mean leftists are better god-fearing christians than the Christian Right?

I admit I'm drawing from the cruel and bitter well but part of me can't help but imagine when Rush finally croaks from his smoking, drug-abusing, fat-sucking lifestyle and his last moments pass alone and unloved after his promotion of the family somehow prevented him from (thankfully) never reproducing and divorcing several times.

Posted by: Patrick | March 24, 2008 3:08 PM

That's not praise, we all know where he keeps that thumb.

Posted by: mdhatter | March 24, 2008 3:25 PM

I am most annoyed by the trailer when Big Ben states something to the effect; "I beleive in a loving god that created everything, rocks, animals and you and I"

Pardon if I misquote a bit.

The he goes on to state that the "Others" believe the everthing is the result of a random act etc. etc.

Whether or not you beleive in a supreme creator or you believe we and all that we see is a random act of biological and astronomical chance; is it not still as remarkable and fascinating?

As Vlad accurately points out "Where does it state in evolutionary theory that there is no god?".

Grow up Ben, for gods sake just be thankful that you are able to appreciate the vast complexity of it all - then again maybe Ben doesn't appreciate complexity? If all of us do not see the same color sky that Ben does are we less of a human being than he is? Ultimately, who ends up throwing rocks and trying to kill each other; the one that believes in the supreme being or the one that believes that we are all part of an amazing act of chance. Seems like history will support the the premise that it is the Social dominators and hyper religious god centered bipeds that are the ones that react to non conformity with destruction.
Seems kinda jack boot supreme on his part...

Posted by: Uncle Dave | March 24, 2008 6:22 PM

"This from some professor either in the UK, I forget where it was". Priceless...poor Dawkins. Also terrible English.

I find his god rather small and dull actually. The only thing it seems to threaten these days is freedom and equality in America.

Posted by: Richard Eis | March 24, 2008 7:04 PM

"... The condescension and the arrogance these people have,... We, on the other hand, recognize that our greatness, who we are, our potential, our ambition, our desire, comes from God, and as part of our Creation, this natural yearning to be free and to practice liberty. That is how we think this country came to be great."

Must start buying irony meters in bulk, just exploded another one. Rush is shocked, "shocked" he says, that these atheist Darwinist are so condescending and arrogant. Unlike Rush who humbly recognizes that his greatness comes from God. Nope, no arrogance there. What a douche.

Posted by: SteveM | March 25, 2008 9:05 AM

I agree, wolf. i loved hearing rush talk about how bad drugs were and people that abused pharmaceuticals should be drawn and quartered because that leaves a drain on the people who really NEED that medicine.

And then i liked hearing him confess he had an addiction to an opiate prescription medication.

Great fun.

Or were you not being sarcastic?

Posted by: genewitch | March 26, 2008 7:49 AM

So did God(s) bless thrice divorced Rush when he went to the Dominican Republic with a Viagra prescription?

Posted by: khan | March 26, 2008 9:41 PM

Clydicus, I can't speak for Stein, but I think Limbaugh is just a simpleton on matters of science, and makes the mistake of thinking about everything in political terms. I think he truly doesn't understand evolution, and therefore doesn't know how stupid the IDers' arguments are.

Posted by: wolfwalker | March 28, 2008 9:25 PM