Respectful Insolence

I’ve written extensively before about how advocates of non-science-based “medical” treatments, such as naturopathy, homeopathy, and all the woo that follows have been waging a war on all fronts against science- and evidence-based medicine in their effort to have their so-called “complementary and alternative medicine” (or the newer, brighter, shinier name “integrative medicine”) be perceived as co-equal with scientific medicine. They’ve infiltrated academia. They’ve insinuated their agenda into medical school curricula. They’ve even managed to have the teaching of woo become a mandatory part of the family medicine residency in several residency programs. But one victory has always eluded them. One victory that would cement their appearance of legitimacy. That victory is to have insurance companies pay for their unscientific modalities.

Say what you will about them (and there is certainly a lot bad to say), insurance companies are very hard-nosed. Even if a modality is cheap, they will not pay for it if there is no good evidence that it works. It’s all about the bottom line. Of course, sometimes if customers demand it, an insurance company here or there might agree to pay for acupuncture or chiropractic adjustments. It’s a business decision meant to keep woo-loving customers from deserting them. But such decisions were haphazard and in no way mandated by anything other than an assessment of the harm done by annoying customers versus the relatively small cost of paying for some woo.

I hadn’t realized that this isn’t the case any more.

Apparently, Vermont passed a law last year requiring insurers and third party payers to cover the cost of naturopathy. Apparently there are other states that mandate coverage for naturopathy as well, including Washington. I don’t know about you, but if I were paying into an insurance plan, and the company administering that plan were wasting money paying for woo, I’d be mightily pissed. This can only serve to drive up the costs for everyone, as patients with non-self-limiting diseases pursue non-science-based modalities, think they feel better for a while, and then find that their disease is progressing, at which point they seek out science-based medical care–which their insurance companies will have to pay for, too.

Of course, this is just one more reason to oppose the licensure of naturopaths. Licensure confers the legitimacy of the state upon a profession. Never mind that legislating the licensure and regulation of a profession is a political and policy decision and has little or nothing to do with whether science supports the efficacy of that profession’s methods. Once that legitimacy is conferred it’s very easy for those holding the licenses to make the argument that they are a legally regulated profession and that there should therefore be no reason why they are not treated as legitimate health care providers for purposes of reimbursement. After all, they’re licensed and regulated by the state! That appears to be exactly what happened in Vermont and Washington. Is Minnesota next?

Comments

  1. #1 Basiorana
    July 2, 2008

    Bah. If you’re getting naturopathic medicine, you have to pay for it plus the cost of the real medicine. This is ridiculous, it’s like saying insurance companies have to pay for your religious healing or for dangerous untested medical procedures not approved for that purpose, just because you think it will work.

    If New Hampshire has such a law I should test it by trying to make my insurance pay for a witch doctor to dance around me to heal my migraines.

  2. #2 DLC
    July 2, 2008

    Gah.
    If this goes on I’m going to buy a degree in woo-pathy and open a storefront clinic.

  3. #3 BB
    July 2, 2008

    They cover woo-opathy because they shell out less in the short term (my hypothesis).
    Bet they shell out much diniero in the long term.
    Oh wait, I forgot about higher mortality for patients who use woo over real medicine.
    Silly of me.

  4. #4 Dr. T
    July 2, 2008

    The insurers are not stupid. The reason they cover woo is that for most minor or self-limiting conditions, woo is much cheaper than our unfortunately inefficient medical system. The money saved by encouraging woo is much greater than the money lost when patients with serious problems delay medical care in favor of woo. (Plus, some of those patients die before seeking real medical care, another savings for the insurance companies.) Also, unlike medical coverage, insurers can put big limits on woo coverage (no $100,000 woo cancer therapies).

    Bottom line: Insurers come out ahead when patients choose woo.

  5. #5 wolfwalker
    July 2, 2008

    I’m not too worried about what Vermont does. I don’t think anybody else really pays attention to Vermont; its politics are totally wacko and everybody knows it.

    Washington state, OTOH, is somewhat more significant.

  6. #6 John Morales
    July 2, 2008

    Assuming that the people harmed by this trend that worries Orac will generally be those who are either unable or unwilling to accept evidence-based medicine as the best alternative, I wonder if Orac’s concern is greater for those who are unable than for those who are unwilling.

    Mine certainly is.

  7. #7 daijiyobu
    July 2, 2008

    Here’s a link to a recent letter of complaint and request for prosecution I sent to the United States Department of Education concerning the CT ND program that has visited quite an academic fraud upon me:

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/3762483/07012008-usde

    For what it’s worth.

    -R.C.

  8. #8 Mike Haubrich, FCD
    July 3, 2008

    Insurance companies being forced to pay for this? Why not spend more time getting them to pay for the treatments that are determined necessary by doctors of medicine who make decisions based on available science?

    I had an insurance company contracted to cover my self-insured employer. They offload their phsychiatric and phsychological administration to a third party. The way I see it, I don’t care if a procedure is coded as a medical procedure or a behavioral health issue. the insurance company is obligated to pay for a legitimate procedure. A neurologist prescribed an evaluation for my daughter. The insurance company has been going back and forth between the neurologist, their claims center and the claims center for the behavioral health company since November about how it should be paid.

    In the meantime, I have a bill for $1900 owing to the neurologist. His accounts receivable person hasn’t demanded payment, but she could at any time.

    Meanwhile, Vermont is trying to force naturopathic payments. Fix the real problems, people.

  9. #9 LC
    July 3, 2008

    Insurance companies would love it.

    Relativley speaking woo treatments are generally a lot ‘cheaper’ financially than real medicine (one of the major selling points). So if more people go to woomeisters for exactly the same (or higher premiums) the amount of money the company recieves from premiums to the amount it has to fork out would increase dramatically. Profits = Good.

    And if the patients pop their clogs before they get to a real doctor all the better, and if they ever did get to a hospital (in the short term) palative care would probably be cheaper than an expensive operations and post-op therapy.

    What would be interesting is if the insurers offer malpractice coverage to the witch doctors. I suspect they wont as they would be taken to the cleaners with numerous litigation cases, but by the same token when was the last time someone blamed a witch doctor for something going bad as opposed to Big-Pharma-Shill doctors?

  10. #10 DLC
    July 3, 2008

    In an unrelated story, but one which I thought Orac and regular Respectful Insolence readers would be interested in, A woman in Salem Mass. Has been arrested for neglect in the matter of giving her son medicine for his non-hodgkin’s lymphoma. The complete story is available here
    or here

  11. #11 Orac
    July 3, 2008

    Already saw it. Stay tuned…

  12. #12 Dianne
    July 3, 2008

    If New Hampshire has such a law I should test it by trying to make my insurance pay for a witch doctor to dance around me to heal my migraines.

    Migraines might be a little on the difficult side. How about testing it on stress headaches or menstral cramps or some other (usually) lower grade pain? In that situation having a witch doctor dance around you might be enough to distract you while the pain wore off. It’d at least be more amusing than your average woo.

    If you’re looking for more reasons to feel that we’re doomed, utterly doomed, there’s this article. Actually, the article itself is not so bad for a major newspaper discussing science. It’s the graphic on the left that made me want to give up: 60% of breast cancer survivors believe that a “positive attitude” (whatever that means) helped prevent a recurrence. 26% gave prayer the credit and 11% complementary therapies. Only 4% mentioned tamoxifen and none mentioned adjuvant chemotherapy. Sigh. Is there anything to be done about this? Can we be better at explaining to patients what adjuvant treatments are doing for them and why they need to take them? Because most people seem to take them for irrelevent at best.

  13. #13 Marcus Ranum
    July 3, 2008

    In that situation having a witch doctor dance around you might be enough to distract you while the pain wore off.

    Can I have my insurance company pay for a stripper? I know this one who does chi alignment and healing touch!

    Perhaps this would be the way to deal with the woo-becomes-insurable issue: create new classes of woo as fast as possible, so that the wootards compete in a classic divide-and-conquer scenario. Imagine the homeopaths calling the stripperopaths “fakes” – the irony alone is good for my heart!

  14. #14 Harry Eagar
    July 3, 2008

    LC is on to something, although I don’t agree completely.

    The union that I am in just negotiated a new contract, which switches health coverage from BC/BS (which has worked very well for me personally) to a new entrant, which covers many kinds of woo which BC/BS didn’t.

    This will cost the employer slightly less, over the next three years. The union liked that because it reduced pressure from the employer to hold down raises.

    I told my boss I expected that to the extent his employees did choose acupuncture etc., it would cost him more in the long run, and he (rolling his eyes) agreed.

    But he is not a free actor.

  15. #15 hibob
    July 3, 2008

    Dr. T and LC nail it – paying for a bit of woo is cheaper for insurers.
    Several scenarios they don’t mention as to why it’s cheaper though:
    1. People change and lose jobs fairly often these days, at least much more often than they die :). There’s a good chance if an insurance company delays expensive treatment, it will be some other insurance company that ends up paying for it later on.
    2. Placebo effect, which increases the effectiveness of strategy #1.
    3. People like woo. Offering to pay for it attracts more customers than refusing to pay for it.
    4. Sell the names of woo-customers to telemarketers -er, I mean, “affiliates of your insurance provider”. Names of people known to be easy marks have got to be worth $$$.

  16. #16 Danio
    July 3, 2008

    My entire family is carried on my health insurance policy, a benefit of being employed by the University of Oregon, to the tune of $1000/month. The carrier (Regence Blue Cross) provides coverage for all employees of the State of Oregon. A quick search for providers in my town alone revealed 17 naturopaths, 35 Acupuncturists, and 68 Chiropractors. Roughly a third in each category are in- network providers.

    I’m not sure how much the premiums would drop if these services were taken off the table–probably not much. But that’s hardly the point. As Orac mentions above, Insurance companies have always been known for their skeptical-to-a-fault policies on coverage/payout. Allowing such quack practitioners to appear on their provider lists, let alone, I assume, covering their services to some extent, legitimizes them in a way that is, IMO, irreparably damaging to the cause of rationality and science-based medicine.

  17. #17 albatross
    July 4, 2008

    Markus,

    I dunno about the doctors here, but I’m looking forward to the healing touch/qi energy adjusting strippertherapy. Damn, I think I feel a headache coming on right now, where’s that nurse authorization number?

  18. #18 CHRISTIANITY@ISTEMPTATION.COM
    July 5, 2008

    CHRISTIANITY@ISTEMPTATION.COM
    After all these years of being strategically raped by god I don’t want to hear it anymore.
    I no longer care.
    I’m satisfied to not participate in your “Big Lie”.

    They display a pattern of “emotional whorism”, pursuing me despite rejection. I refer to the day on Ocean Beach when we realized the supernatural phenominah, compelling me to “look to the gods”. With the historyand exploitationtheir forceduponmy life my answer was “No.”, yuet they remain, like puppy dogs following at my heels.

    As was true in the days of Pharroh, the Roman Empire, Nazi germany and preditory corporate America the gods are essentially spoiled children who take what they want with no regard.
    They like to call the disfavored “evil” yet it is THEIR flag.
    Contrary to popular perception, the run-down nature of WashingotnDC is a clue, a statement regarding the United States and the views of this current administration. Don’t forget:::The gods LOVE to ridicule good in their media.
    Which one is it? Good or evil? It’s both:::The democratization of Iraq has initiated this antient people into disfavor, as it has done so many times before.
    This is the modern incarnation of temptation::::People understand more than they used to, so to ensure they are sufficiently tested the gods “mix it up”.

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    The Anti-Christ was always a clone host, as were all industrialists, and the coming Biblical battle of good and evil will be scripted and fake as well, and likely only be telepathic theater at that.

    This is how the gods manage clone hosting::::
    Gangsters of the 20s and 30s were too evil to reward them with the sucess seen in corporate America, so the gods took them out and put people into those clone hosts whom were not evil. The gods rotate based on goals, so it is possible they were rotated throuh when corporate was so wicked in the 1980s.
    There is a BIG difference between preditory corporate/media and decent corporate:::::Media items as I list below were used to prey on people, so the gods UTILIZE evil in the context of these clone hosts. These same people would be prohibited from working “quiet time” in corporate because they dont have the favor necessary to NOT incurr evil.
    There are two “temples” at work here::::Good and evil.
    The gods focus on their evil temples, corporate, media and associated temptations.
    They don’t even WANT people LOOKING at the good temples and seek to minimize their presence amist the “noise”:::::Their temptations attempt to bury the religious life necessary for decency.
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    The gods place people with variable morality within clone hosts according to what goals they want accomplished.
    They are, in effect, “temps” (a clue).
    Expect my desire to kill these “temps” who have crossed me to be unrealized symbolism the gods could have used to enhance this theater, if I was willing.
    Expect they dropped many of these clues, created many of these enhancements for the Situation::::::There was a good Jesus who taught before age 30. The switch was made, just as with Mohammed, except the Bible only represents the evil Jesus. Good Jesus’s real teachings lie elsewhere, perhaps under a different name, perhaps DELETED forever.
    The difference is Earth is Planet Reverse Positioning and Christianity is evil. Consistant with this posiotioning the gods may want to send this clue by switching me and having the clone host assume some traditional bullshit Christian teachings.
    Remember::::If Christianity is evil then maybe the (real) Anti-Christ is the good one. The gods may want to mix things up like this.

    Story on the Dynasty that Won Only in Crisis.
    “You don’t get anything. Eveything happens around you.”
    They said this Sutituation’s theme was reflected in Forrest Gump. Other elements of the Situation were justified with a marriage between good and evil::::
    Mondavi chardonnay reserve – Sideways
    Grand Cayman banking – Finding Nemo
    Chevron mascots – Cars
    Japs – Ultraman’s Iron Man
    This is a long, long list. Friday we add another half-billion to the total.
    Just as we saw with Cars, when some cronie from Hollywood claimed credit when Cars was quite obviously a Chevron inspiration, so did I see some old man claim credit for Iron Man.
    The Japs aren’t John Rockafeller. The Japs are about the offensive, as their products will attest, and providing this “protection” as they did for Chevron shows inferior judgement of the gods yet again.
    The gods willl offer clues suggesting my involvement, tying me to the event for the disfavored’s understanding, ensuring the connection is made without actually admitting it OR compensating me.
    I was talking about Sideways a lot and I sguess they decided to (finally) allow the Mondavi death to send this clue. Expect similar clues showing I am the element of good they used to justify Sex in The City.
    Here comes another $500,000,000.
    Just as they sent an important clue with Boss so too is this is a clue::::::Abandon any preconceptions of entitlement.

    Sex in the City isn’t the Beatles but this concept was specifically designed to be preditory on women who, as they aged, were candidates for exclusion because of their promiscuity:::::
    I believe there are opportunities that exist for females that do no exist for males. I don’t mean to paint with a broad brush but women’s “sexual peak” may represent the transistion to “sociological males” and their “fall from grace”. Considering today’s promiscuity I question the extent to which this is currently applicable.
    This was the purpose of this event originally::::To promote sexual promiscuity among impressionable disfavored women.
    Admittedly, this is a done deal. Their fans likely own seasons, and the damage from the movie will only serve to revisit the established destruction.
    Nothing compared to the Beatles in terms of popular culturue destruciton to the most favoredd gender.
    We don’t need to witness the British Invasion to see the evil of the English either. The gods drop many clues, associating English accents with evil.frequently.
    Mark my words their “creative banking” is the element of evil the gods used as justification for the creation of Finding Nemo.

    Just wanted to note::::Every time there is a calamity/”crisis” I am not here to experience it. Of course I have to pay for that absense. Examples::::
    1. 1989 Loma Prieta Earthquake. I wasattendingi school at UCSB, something they share “costed me”.
    2. Heat wave of 2005(6?). They used tyhis opportunity to max my credit card during this event, making it “ok” in my mind.
    3. Exhorbinantly high gas prices. Gave me pnemonia.
    There are other examples, although these are the major ones.
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    As people begin to age the gods employ corrupting tactics. They ultimately begin to look down on the children and the wisdom they recently understood:::
    They voluntarily turn their back on their opportunity to ascend and instead embrace evil.
    It’s not old people who go to heaven. Old people must come back because of the mistakes they’ve made throughout their lives. Children are the ones who have the opportunity to ascend.

    Children are discounted by adults in society. The gods corrupt people as they age, use trust-building tactics and soon adults view the children as ignorant, yet to understand the god’s system, and subsequently look down on the children. This is one of the most bitter, painful ironies the gods employ, for people consciously turn their back on and lose their opportunity to ascend::::
    Religions teach that old people to go to heaven when they die. They don’t. Old people are reincarnated. It’s the children who go to heaven, those who have a chance at immortality.
    The wisdom the gods impart to children, either through their innocence/purity or religious-based educational pursuits are the gods sharing the truth with their most favored people::::It’s the children whom the gods teach the right way for it is the children who have a chance. For example, they teach children to have faith, for understanding the god’s geographical clues hurts people by illustrating negative things, opening the door for the god’s to employ deceptive tactics.
    Old people don’t go to heaven. Old people must come back because of the mistakes they’ve made throughout their lives. It’s the children who have the opportunity to go to “heaven”. They must behave apprioriately, think correctly and be genuinely god-fearing. Their innocence and lack of desensitization ensures they have a real opportunity to achieve this goal.

    This is charecteristic of the gods methodology::::The big prize gone early, deception compels people to chase something that has already been decided. They sent this clue with boss as well. It is also a clue supporting my claim RW&B’s german is in fact Christianity’s Anti-Christ. Logic also dictates, considering the definition.

    This individual was used to justify the repression of alternative technologies, and in the early/mid 20th century the elimination of productivity enhancing developments like Chicago’s underground railroad for merchandise delivery to retail outlets.
    There are other examples like this as well, notably the railroad on the lower span of the Bay Bridge.
    This forced transport via internal combustion vehicles instead.
    This is how the gods do business:::They get theirs right off the bat. The #1 industrailist, the #1 capitalist is the Anti-Christ, and he’s been “in charge” for 150 years. 1906 San Francisco Earthquake ocurred to punish the sexual deviacy and hedonism that was so prevalient in The City at that time, positionable with the Anti-Christ AND useful as corruptor in the 20th century.
    Of course this is all telepathic theater. He was just a clone host all along. All those industrialists were.
    Flanders is on the Simpsons as a clue.

    The confusion over this multi-dimentional positioning will serve as an effective tactic, eliminating many additional disfavored in the process, for positioning states the Apocalypse to be a continuation of WorldWarII’s Aryan superrace ideals, positioned as punishment for the 5th century invastion of the Roman Empire:::John’s Fourth Reich.
    This amounts only to “nested theater”:::::Levels of positioning enables the gods to scapegoat:::::RW&B merely is the tool the gods chose to execute the final scene of their scripted theater that is human history.

    Just as they would have had me chase boss so would they have wanted me to sign on to this theater, evil by definition, and chase this role of Anti-Christ. By doing so I would have incurred evil and would have been punished, painfully “losing” Anti-Christ in the process.
    Does that mean RW&B is not the Anti-Christ?? I suspect as they would have “offered” it to me so will there be a fake Anti-Christ for those in these generations to accept as well. But it is a clone host. This is ALL clone host theater, created not as a clue to me but instead designed to be preditory on the disfavored, designed to increase indecency and further the god’s goal of justification towards The End.
    We were all merely peasants centuries ago, struggling with our disfavor, but without the enormity of temptations, real and telepathic, which exist today.

    They have shared I was positioned to some disfavored as the Second Coming of Christ, explaining all the evil surrounding me and RW&B’s placement in the “eye of The Beast” was to positon the sabotage of my candidacy (Damien Omen, Big Army Men, etc).
    The Big Lie of course is that Christianity is evil:::There was a good Jesus who taught before age 30. The switch was made, just as with Mohammed, except the Bible only represents the evil Jesus. Good Jesus’s real teachings lie elsewhere, perhaps under a different name, perhaps DELETED forever.
    The reverse positioning nature of Planet Earth dictates that good is demonized, as we witnessed in World War II, while evil is put on a pedistal, as we see with the Italians.
    The truth? The gods used their tools to create this and the rest of the incidents surrounding this Situation to distract the people from my message, for I speak the truth:::This is the REAL battle of goodand evil. The Anti-Christ was alwasy a clone host, as all industrialists, and the Biblical battle of good and evil will be scripted and fake, and may only be telepathic theater.
    Only you can save you. You have to be responsible for your own relationship with the gods.

    The gods are asexual. They have no sex organs nor rectums.
    When the gods take children these individuals have the opportunity to become “god-like”. Temptations are employed and, if sucessful, these are the individuals who make up the human race’s immortals.
    I believe there are opportunities that exist for females that do no exist for males. I don’t mean to paint with a broad brush but women’s “sexual peak” may represent the transistion to “sociological males” and their “fall from grace”. Considering today’s promiscuity I question the extent to which this is currently applicable.
    I believe Purgatory is real. I think it is a temporary destination, perhaps sparsely utilized until the Apocalypse, but this will be the destination for those who “ascend” during the event. As they’ve said this planet will too be disposed of one day and it is imperative people try to avoid that destination, for there may be no escaping its fate.

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    It seems quite obvious I am used to force decency upon others.
    Considering the german involvement in Native American elimination I believe the used me for Indian casinos whereas I didn’t believe before. I realize people remain corrupted by money but there is enough envidence to suggest I am used to enforce decency upon others, as opposed to the “proactive” PIC, who takes it upon themselves, yet another of the evil companies which people need to look out for.

    Program on lost books of the Bible.
    Mentioned there was a woman made in perfect equality with Adam, one who refused to take a subservient role and rejected his advances. The gods dispatched an angel for her and Lillith ascended. This is yet another clue illustrating that sex hurts people. Considering the paternalistic attitudes of Meditereanean people there’s no wonder why it was excluded.
    They subsequently illustrate how Lillith was demonized by these disfavored Meditereaneans. Because Eve was made from man SHE is the source of women’s evil.
    This is true::::This IS material written which was rejected when the Bible was compilated. Consistant with the Mohammed clue I suspect we do not experience good Jesus’s teachings in the Bible either.They could have intertwined good and evil Jesus, where we had one day/week on, one day/week off. This would have made things exceedingly difficult, and it is hard enough as it is.
    Mohammed is very clearly defined. Take it as a clue.

    Planet Reverse Positioning::::Your infertility was favor, for the gods were granting you more time in hope you could get out “before” this obligation forced you to stay.
    The Italians bred like rabbits:::That they got “pregnant immediately” illustrated their undesirability.
    Your children are the ones with the opportunity now. You must sacrifice to give them the best chance possible.
    It’s children who go to heaven, not old people.

    This is the REAL battle of good and evil:::Me vs. god. Of course I’m trying to help you understand that you are corrupted, fell for temptation and are going the wrong way::::WE are the ones who are evil. (While executing the battle of good and evil the gods do some evil things, like role play their clone host tools, forcing thoughts into your head/NO FREEWILL, manage their clone hosts to disceive you::::It appears as if Italians and their descendats built this preditory conglomerate corporate empire we witness but in fact the switch was made. They were sent to the Nazi death camps for punishment/disposal and acceptable individuals were brought in to take their place:::They were too evil to work or participate in a decent enviornment. They were reincarnated as lesser beings. This is how the gods create the perception of evil rewarded.)
    The gods positioning is gangsters are perceived to have developed this multi-national conglomerate enviornment in which the economy (de)volved. Their reality is the Boot, Trans at GSq and the homosexual exploson we saw, not coincidnetally timed with this multi-national conglomerate explosion.
    The gods tested us and we have failed, scapegoatting their tools to ensure people never become god-fearing. Artificial Intelligence merely role plays these clone hosts in your head to mislead you. They don’t need to use anybody firsthand, although they can employ ANY tool from history if necessary. They would just make up a new Julius Ceasar just as they’d make up a new George Washington to produce before you if they had to.
    Learn what I teach and try to uncorrupt yourselves. NOBODY IS GOING TO SAVE YOU!! You have to save yourselves by repairing your relationship with the gods.

    This is how the gods do business:::::They use temptation and deception to compel people to chase something that has already been decided. It’s children who go to “beaven”. OLd people have to come back. The gods will use their power to contradict this, corrupting people and compelling them to incurr evil::::They used the Italians to ruin life in the 20th century, cost you the Final Prophet and the result will be death as you wait for the Italian Second Coming of Christ to save you:::Participating in this lie is going to cost you your life.
    This is the god’s positioning and it IS going to be enforced. Never forget::::The gods have always offered “protection” to those genuinely religious. It is something that was always respected, even in the wicked 20th century.

    They gave back the Mormon’s children. They never intended to take them.
    It only took less than a week to poison those children’s minds. They are going to lose some of them because of this.
    They’ve gone from reading the Bible to playing GrandTheftAutoIV. And this was the goal.
    Never forget:::::The gods did this to you. You are being punished for your sin of polygamous sex, and they deem some of your children “acceptable losses” to achieve this.
    Joseph Smith and Brigham Young were evil. They used these tools to prey on the least among us.
    Polygamy is uncommon among whites. Mormons draw upon morbidly disfavored Mediterreanean religions as justification for polygamy. Their level of disfavor is ALARMING.
    The gods are big on “compensatory” and is why Mormons neither drink, smoke, etc.::::Fashion is something that hurts people, and FLDS applies healthy priniciples in their attire. However, the Catholic Church teaches sex only for procreation, and this is accurate as well. Actually it can be viewed as liberal, for the goal is to ascend and the gods place great importance on virginal innocence, illustrated by as my infertility example below.
    If you people knew how many of your children fail and the price you pay because of that sexually impure environment you subject them to you would be devistated.

    “Very fast growing tumor, 3 months ago may not have been detectable.”-MD
    Ted may be good and this is his punishment for the evil of endorsing Osama. Similarly, JFK started the Vietnam War.
    People may be confused, since both are clone hosts. There are good clone hosts which the gods could use to send a clue, the Ted Kennedy-Osama malignant cancer being a good example.
    If these people were evil they wouldn’t be getting this “feedback”. Of course as highly visible figures this “feedback” is for us.
    When it comes to “acceptable losses” it is ALWAYS best to let the gods do it through “acts of god”. This is one of the things clone hosts learn when they “come around”.

    “You think you’re better than us.” You’re right. I do. This is a big fucking deal and I would have given my victim a chance::::You demand sacrifice but don’t offer any yourselves.
    You impact my ability to reach these people, either instructing AI to affect my thoughts or my ability to write. “You’ll get your chance.” This may or may not be true:::You should know not to trust them by now. Either way it won’t be me. I’ll be someone else, reincarnated, with different abililies, attitudes and experiences.
    “You hooked up with the Italians and that ended it.” This is one way how the gods are using The Italian Boot to perpetuate temptation and failure::::At this late of date Italian rule is implied among the stagnant disfavored. Society’s concerted effort preying upon blacks is a clue (movies, music, drugs/alcohol, food, etc).
    Because the gods role play their positioning in the context of the Situation too many people will wait for some mythical savior, someone who they think will save them from their own evil acts of compliance, someone who will save them from their own immorality.
    When people realize Christianity is evil and how it has misled them they will understand this mistake.

    Boss was “back-handed help” created to mislead the disfavored while sending a clue about “chasing” a benefit that is already gone. The Final Prophet is another example of the god’s “back-handed help”::::I speak the truth, try to help the disfavored but it allows the gods to wash their hands of culpability.
    The Final Prophet buys the gods off the hook. That you dscounted me as a result of their Italian positioning is of no consequence to them:::::The package has been delivered.

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    Females are better people than males.
    They share the women sense loss at graduation and other significant life events while the males are generally without this insight. The gods will impart wisdom to the favored gender. Depression women experience after childbirth is another outstanding example, for the gods are offering the favored gender a clue illustrating their loss.
    Historically the role of females was as enforcers of decency. Men have god’s disfavor and enagage in behavior damaging to themselves and their families. Women who adhered to this crucial role helped the men understand and avoid inappropriate behavior while enhancing decency in their domestic environment. These women sacrifice to help the disfavored:::They are like Jews, scattered throughout Europe to help the misled Christians or the Amish today, living in purity and simplicity.
    Many disfavored groups embrace “paternalistic superiority” and believe the men are “entitled”::::;If Italian women tried to enforce decency the men beat and raped them.
    The gods subsequently used this Italian charecterisitic to corrupt other morbidly disfavored groups, legitimizing this and other associated behavior whereas decency in society may have been able to hep correct this disfavor. This is very similar to the “clone host” issue, where the gods corrupt normal people into thinking they are one of them.

    Forgiveness:::Some Meditereanean preaches the virtues of “forgiveness”. I guess. Bunch of preditors pursuing self-preservation. It was their kind and their friends who fucked up Planet Earth.
    The Jesus who preached forgiveness was evil, the same Jesus backed by the god’s powers via miracles.
    “Forgiveness” has made Planet Earth unsustainable.
    “Eye for an eye makes the world blind.” Oh, no::::”Eye for an eye” conditions people and forces them to behave appropriately.
    One goal of the Iraq War was to eliminate Saddam Hussein. Saddam Hussein was an OUTSTANDING leader for the disfavored Iraqis. He kept the peace among the grossly disfavored which, once US pullout is complete, may never be achieved again.
    If Saddam Hussein was assigned American urban ghettos the blacks whom resided there would become decent, and their children would have a real opportunity to ascend where none exists today.
    “Forgiveness” is yet another dynamic of Christianity which is preditory.
    Italians ruined life in the 20th century, yet you still patronize their organizations. The gods interpret this as you have forgiven them for their wickedness. As a result of your “trust” they have CHEATED you out of the Final Prophet, and as victors they will receive Second Coming of Christ. You will be sold on salvation until the day comes when you realize you have been misled. On that day you will realize forgiveness is reverse positioning. On that day you will realize Christianity is evil. On that day you will realize your irresponsibility has costed your life.

    This current environment where the gods punish evil covertly enables the perception of evil rewarded and the corruption that results produces a planet which is not sustainable.
    We no longer receive largescale contradicting feedback because the gods have decided to end on Planet Earth. Consistant with their methodology it begins with the most disfavored among us first.

    Unfuck Planet Earth::::The gods will do everything in their power to prevent this, maintaining the myriad of temptations they instilled, for they worked very hard to set up this degenerative environment, ensuring Earth is not sustainable.

    Don’t be distracted by their middle-management tactic. Considering how many racist Italians there were expect the high-heeled transsexual’s Boot is represented out working the streets of Oakland, as it was so prevalient during the homosexaul explosition in the 20th century, ironically. The gods LOVE their poetic justice:::”Tough guys” come back as transsexuals. Cashier at GSq. is (was) there for a reason::It’s a family member reincarnated, isn’t it?
    “It’s not fair.” Fair woudl have been to make an example of Italians as they stepped off the boat, but this killing spree woudl have helped Earth maintain sustainability, and the gods used the Italians for something quite the opposite.
    “And the Jews!!!”, the Italian’s 20th century partners in crime.
    Pre-Holocaust Jews::::
    Exect the gods corrupted many of them, sold them on this “project” and used this evil to justify initiating them into clone hosting, so as the Italian filth of the 20th and 30s departed to die in Jew clone hosts in Nazi death camps many of these Jews were placed into their Mediterreanean brother’s bodies in the United States.
    And it’s not just the obvious::::The Jews were very active in the social deterioration that was the 1960s.
    The Meditereaeans are European’s inferiors, yet the god’s positioning put them on a pedistal as corruptor AND clue::::This is the region where the gods killed untold tens of thousands in the Noah’s Flood event. Their women traditionally consume alcohol and it severely impacted the culture’s decency. The Jews fell for Joshua’s warmongering despite witnessing Moses firsthand. 1906 was used to corrupt Italians, compelling them to engage in unspeakable evil. Positioning says they compensated the Jews for WWII, revenge for the 5th century german invasion of the Roman Empire. The reality is the gods used money as a corruptor, casting vasts numbers of both groups into Damnation with this tactic snd employing the perception of evil rewarded to corrupt all of us effectively.

    The gods expend most of their efforts planning for and executing temptation designed to test people::::Considering the premiere importance they place in evil in the context of executing their strategy I suspect good takes a back seat.
    Christianity is a lie. They have an interest in maintaining this perception of an absentee Christian god, lest people become genuinely god-fearing. The alternative is embracing the concept of “evil god”, much like the black pimps I speak of above.
    The gods are like pimps. They pimp everyone who complies with their lies, and like in Oakland you won’t get anything out of it either.

    As the Italian legacy is preditory on others, Irish legacy is preditory on their own kind. Preditory on their own children.
    Not all Italians were gangsters, and not all Italians fell prey to the god’s 1906 positioning. Similarly, not all Irish prey on their own children. But if my family were Italian we’d be the godfather. Certainly we’re on the list.
    “Camera’s broken!”

    The gods are very free with the term “acts of god” for good reason::::Weather/climatic calamities are the gods inflicting their wrath upon the people AND accepting culpability.
    I believe when the gods permanantly eliminate someone’s life they so within the context of their control and positioning, and ALL weather-related events are possible opportunities. This is not to say they kill all involved in an incident, formost arereincarnated, but being “acts of god” they have the freedom to elimnate based on their discretion.
    Similarly, it is possible for the gods to accomplish these goals within the context of a living manifestation here on Earth::::Brain-less clone hosts, controlled entirely by Artificial Intelligence. The Nazi death camps are a good example::::
    One of these camps one (temporarily) may have been staffed with brain-less clone hosts for this official disposal event. There was great numbers of evil, wicked trash from the 20s and 30s, individuals which likely wasn’t allowed to survive, and using brain-less clone hosts granted the gods the opportunity to use this event to punish some but also to eliminate the worst.
    Events like bio-technology’s AIDS virus is attributable to human behavior and is considered by the gods to be the “human condition”. Fortunately, because of this it has never claimed any lives either:::ALL victims of AIDS are reincarnated.
    Of course AI can create AIDS symptoms and “take someone down” without that individual getting the product, but the African event was indiscriminate.
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    There is one geographic clue I have not addressed in years:::Uranus, a planet tilted 90 degrees on its axis. I have stated in years past that I think this is yet another geographic clue offered by the gods, this one suggesting the fate of planet Earth, that tectonic plate subduction would be the method of disposal:::Earth’s axis will shift breaking continental plates free and initiating mass subduction.
    Undesirables will either perish in the government marijuana erradication program “gone awry” or be the recipients of reparations granted by the US government because of it.
    Or both.
    I believe the New Testiment battle of the Anti-Christ and the Second Coming of Christ will ocurr in subsequent years SPECIFICALLY because these people will be distracted with the money during the event.
    When the Earth’s axis shifts people will be cast into outer space with gold cards in hand.
    I think this was foreshadowed on an episode of the Simpsons where Homer and Bart are on the disfavored ship and eject, only to experience a sense of euphoria, expand then explode in the vacuum of space.

    Recall I recently brought up the possible Manifest Destiny-positioned Chinese invasion of the United States (west coast) upon economic abandonment by their clone host tools (economic destruction and deterioration.mp3). They have mentioned this in years past.
    Newspaper just made a curious change where they combined the sports and business sections, and to properly read the business section you need to read “backward”. Like Asian languages.
    Tariffs. The gods are instruct their tools to defend open free trade, as they will to the bitter end. The gods have a script and they need economic (d)evolution sufficient to justify what they have scripted for our future, so they use their tools to adamantly defend this concept of fair trade::::The time for tariffs has long since past.
    Recently they have stated that the Chinese are holding US paper. Some patriot W is, selling US debt to communists. Perhaps the invasion will be a way to “redeem” these bonds after they’ve fallen into default.
    Incidentally, the Chinese recalls (lead-based paint on toys, toothpaste, etc) may be in preparation for this invasion, a tactic esuring a percentage of disfavored affected will fight to the bitter end.
    I’ve recently stated how the gods will use the Japanese as role models to the Chinese as China becomes increasingly Westernized. Expect a cultural movement celebrating Japanese culture in decades prior, much as we witnessed in the west in the past.
    If we do witness a Chinese invasion on American soil don’t be surprised if the very same tactics the Japanese employed on the Chinese will be used on us. Lack of empathy is a dynamic the gods will find important in the context of justification, niggers:::
    I’ve recently stated how the gods will use the Japanese as role models to the Chinese as China becomes increasingly Westernized.
    Feedback II.wav
    Recall how Americans so frequently laughed at the French for their lack of military response when confronted by the Nazi army. To resist would have been suicide. Their reaction was appropriate. The opposite would be one as we witnessed in Vietnam. These are morbidly disfavored Asians and take great pride in their resistance. The gods DO use their pride in resistance by positioning in appropriate temptation, ensuring minimal sucess.
    If events transpire I recommend you respond like the French and not like the Vietnamese. If this is a west coast event it may not have serious effect but if it is nationwide the United States will lose over a hundred million in the South and midwest.
    DO I believe this is a possibility? I believe Chinese infantcide represents the end of this senario. I think the “leveling of the playing field” that has ocurred in the late 20th century with Westernization and capitalism has eliminated the possibility of using the Chinese to save us from ourselves.

    It doesn’t matter. McCain doesn’t have a chance. Osama’s too good. The debates will be one-sided. I can get into the explanation that the gods only use their power to hurt the disfavored, but you’ve already heard it. Consistant with this, expect gas to climb to $4 if not $5 this summer, ensuring the election is delivered to the wrong candidate::::They’ve used the price of gas to punish the people for electing the wrong person. In addition, public response to recent poor economic reports ensures conservative behavior, another factor which is intentionally damaging to McCain’s chances.
    IN 2000 you didn’t have a choice, and they sent this clue very nicely with proceedings surrounding the election (just like the 2008 Democratic candidate due to Superdelegates!!!). But 2004 was different. In an ironic twist it will be just the opposite this year, where the gods use the price of gas and run-down economy diverts you TO their prefered candidate. It’s ocurring intentionally for this purpose.
    You idiot redneck political types are the chumps here. 1998::::Something for everybody. Clinton’s impeachment was for people like you. ANYTIME the kids support a candidate it is a RED FLAG, and they supported Clinton in 1992.
    It is VERY important that you think clearly::::::::It’s important you differentiate between your thoughts and when the computer thinks through you. They’ve led many into Damnation with this tactic.
    I’d like to note “Deja vu”, a clue the gods offer to the disfavored::::In an incident similar to the 1998 Clinton impeachment, Osama delivered his speech on race one day before the 5-year anniversary of the Iraq War.

    As I noted before in an earlier version:::Arizona is good. Arizona fought making MLK Day a holiday. CNN shares McCain voted against making MLK Day a holiday in 1983.
    This is quinessential reverse positioning::::People don’t recognize the positive and instead are deceived by the god’s reverse positioning, costing themselves the best candidate for the job.
    7.44′s Port Chicago explosion, in the “eye of The Beast”, was a planned incident in WorldWarII. The Italians who planned WWII knowingly used Port Chicago as the seeds of Civil rights because of this symbolism.
    Segregation is favor bestowed upon people. Integration represents a deterioration which the gods will use as justification. Considering its global effect people should be alarmed:::We have witnessed a global “leveling of the playing field” event.
    Prior to civil rights blacks had their own press. In the absence of civil rights they would have grown into legitimate media outlets. This is not to say the gods wouldn’t have put forth contradictory Manifest Destiny programming to counter, but blacks would have had a choice where none exists now. Similarly, black industrialist would have arisen to serve the black community, and the presence of these black billionaries would have fored the gods to factor them into positioning, excluding such Manifest Destiny abused such as AIDS in Africa, drive-by gangbanging and the crack epidemic.
    Civil rights is a wonderful example of a “Big Lie”, reverse positioning that can help people see and think clearly. They sent this clue to blacks with MLK’s “If I had to sneeze” speech.
    McCain’s our man.

    After 2003 John McCain stated his opposition to the war. Despite this pro-war “party line” he must adhere to as the Republican candidate I’d like this opposition used during the campaign. Without it he is finished.
    “McCain’s a dinosaur.” So was matchmaking. So was decency.
    People don’t understand this issue. They see Osama and think he’s the best candidate because he’s appears to have more favor. Never look for consistancy, for Artificial Intelligence is infinitly dynamic:::They make W sound like an idiot when he speaks for a different reason. Also, “sumbling” and “idiot” likely have separate meanings associated. Sorry. It’s not supposed to be easy.
    The gods have their plan and they aren’t going to allow any “do-gooders” interfere with how they intend to proceed:::When they put forth good they create tactics to play off the public’s misconceptions::::Make him stumble over his words, etc. The gods send this clue in the Situation:::I’m trying to help people and they ruin my delivery to ensure the number of people who are receptive is minimized.
    Don’t forget::::The gods will create the perception of favor then corrupt the disfavored with it. My example is Mormons who have the appearance of favor. The gods use this to corrupt the others, even use it to enhance the ranks of LDS. And if any of you LDS think that “We’ve changed.” can look to the Catholic Church as the roots of Christianity to help you understand.
    Yes both candidates are clone hosts. Yes the gods will switch them out to justify them being good or evil, depending on how the script reads. But much as I explained this “multi-dimentional” thinking is not for you. The gods use this as a corruptor. They’ll sell this, lie to the disfavored and use this as temptation.
    “Your child is Hitler. Fuck him over.” is just one example:::If you don’t do the best you can for your children the gods will punish you.
    This is the life into which you’ve been placed. This is the life on which you will be judged.

    Malcolm X, assassinated. Martin Luther King, Jr., assassinated.
    What is the possibility the “powers that be” refuse to allow a black man as president of the United States?
    Imagine his usefulness as martyr. We may have some excitement in store for us.
    Al Gore could run for president after the FreeMasons assassinate Osama:::
    Considering the nature of this country the possibility of this event is justifiable. The gods would have an open door for scapegoatting, Freemasons one which they will likely use with blacks. Gottta keep the thug life popular.

    In case you are still interested in the god’s Planet Earth theater, favored redwhite&blue is a MAJOR player, and their favor is significant to justify not only the destruction of my life but the destruction of the Final Prophet and Planet Earth as well::::
    Favored redwhite&blue is the true enemy of the people. I suspect consistant with this they are positioned responsible for the environmental deterioration that the repression of alternate technologies has wrought.
    The gods put their positioning into place and then enforce it:::Christianity, Manifest Destiny, Sigmund Freud’s psychoanalysis, 1906′s New Roman Empire. I suspect World War II’s Nazi ideals of “Aryan superrace” is another example of the gods getting their tools into place for the theater that will be the Apocalypse.
    Because of their status as enemies of the New Roman Empire the germans are going to be positioned as the destructors, similar to how they were portrayed in World War II.
    Don’t be surprised if favored redwhite&blue turns out to be the Anti-Christ and leads the Fourth Reich, fulfilling this positioning and proving to the world the destructive nature of this economic system. This may not be exactly how their script reads, but the god’s have a BIG SURPRISE like this to spring on the disfavored, and it will contain an insult like this as a clue NOT to watch this theater::::::Expect they will fulfill some contrived positioning foreshadowed in WorldWarII:::Some American plays the role of hero and emerges as the Second Coming of Christ for this final scene.
    Who will it be? Italian? Look for at least the mother to be Italian, consistant with matrilineal descent, allowing the New Roman Empire to claim the Second Coming of Christ. It’s all just theater. The gods don’t admit any of this because people woudl freak, especially as we approached the big day.

    People may say “How can they poisiton favored redwhite&blue in as the Anti-Christ?” It may be consideration. Don’t forget:::They prey on enemies of the Roman Empire out of respect for their Manifest Destiny superiors.
    The gods positioning the Italians gave it to him for his loyalty. They gave it to him for his efforts to defeat alternate technologies/energy sources, ensuring the people would be delivered to the point of desperation.
    It’s all theater. The gods position it that the New Roman Empire is dooling out the “big prizes”, and Anti-Christ is a big role. Likely the gods position it as it buys him immortality in the context of this absentee-Christian god positioning. The “help” of this “back hand” is the gods positioned that he needs this to achieve immortality because of all the evil he engaged in during the course of his life, building his organizational empire.

    There is a issue with timing and the beginning of construction of disfavored redwhite&blue’s center, one where this company looks bad.
    I personally believe the favored redwhite&blue is the element of favor necessary for my failure, for if it were just the disfavored redwhite&blue involved the gods would have let them fry and we would have had a full-blown prophet event, one where our “absentee Christian god” emerged and revealed themselves.
    In addition favored redwhite&blue had to maintain appearances. Disfavored redwhite&blue is Italian and was VERY involved in the 20th century’s ugliness.
    My life was destroyed becuase the gods had to create unrespecability in the context of positioning. Evident by their easily-discovered evil, disfavored redwhite&blue wouldn’t have cared if I was respectable or not, for they were involved in great evil against the respectable.
    Favored redwhite&blue is why I am fat. Favored redwhite&blue is why I was sedintary, for if I were respectable the gods wouldn’t have been able to position favored redwhite&blue into the Situation. Because of their ethnicity they get the priveledge of looking good. This is one reason why they got that prior knowledge and constructed their center before the Situaiton began::::Favored redwhite&blue is the TRUE Enforcer.
    Incidentally, in the course of this Situation the gods made many movies, using daily events in my life as inspiration. One of note:::Unhappy about the god’s behavior in the context of this event, while in favored redwhite&blue’s facility I looked at their mascot and flippantly declared::::”Why don’t you make a movie about these things?” Two years later ____ came out.
    They won’t admit this because favored redwhite&blue has to maintain their reputation based on integrity, any creative claims countering this truth were attemtpts to protect this, for this movie was unseemly and was very telling about the direction the gods were taking the people.
    And, as an added bonus they had their scapegoat without actually compensating him!!! Welcome to the pathology of the gods.
    In case you are still interested in the god’s Planet Earth theater, favored redwhite&blue is a MAJOR player, and their favor is significant to justify not only the destruction of my life but the destruction of the Final Prophet and Planet Earth as well::::
    Favored redwhite&blue is the true enemy of the people. I suspect consistant with this they are positioned responsible for the environmental deterioration that the repression of alternate technologies has wrought.
    The gods put their positioning into place and then enforce it:::Christianity, Manifest Destiny, Sigmund Freud’s psychoanalysis, 1906′s New Roman Empire. I suspect World War II’s Nazi ideals of “Aryan superrace” is another example of the gods getting their tools into place for the theater that will be the Apocalypse.
    Because of their status as enemies of the New Roman Empire the germans are going to be positioned as the destructors, similar to how they were portrayed in World War II.
    Don’t be surprised if favored redwhite&blue turns out to be the Anti-Christ and leads the Fourth Reich, fulfilling this positioning and proving to the world the destructive nature of this economic system. This may not be exactly how their script reads, but the god’s have a BIG SURPRISE like this to spring on the disfavored, and it will contain an insult like this as a clue NOT to watch this theater::::::Expect they will fulfill some contrived positioning foreshadowed in WorldWarII:::Some American plays the role of hero and emerges as the Second Coming of Christ for this final scene.
    Who will it be? Italian? Look for at least the mother to be Italian, consistant with matrilineal descent, allowing the New Roman Empire to claim the Second Coming of Christ.

    This entire event was something special, and consistant with segmentation they lied to different disfavored based on their chances :::Saved or The Damned.
    To The Damned I am an enemy of the Roman Empire, someone to be destroyed and used, and if the disfavored found that acceptable it worsened their lot, costed them hope and was a clue any recovery would be a very tough road to hoe.
    The saved saw other clues, boss, natural calamities, and it gave rise to me as a possible historical figure. The gods offered clues that neither “savior” nor “new king of Earth” was possible, for Christianity positioning is going to be fulfilled and Earth has to die.
    I don’t think we were ever talking about Second Coming of Christ in public circles, for this would have implied The End and that would have compelled people to freak. But in the context of private positioning, perhaps to clone hosts in The Beast, certainly to me, there may have been some connection::::
    Jesus of course was Jew, and they positioned this was a competition, reasoning “Since the Jews got Jesus they get this too.”, and that’s why I was hired by the Jew. Expect this was a way to enhance the theater among the disfavored.
    So positioning states by delivering me to these New Roman Empire monsters they knew I’d get fucked, and in the process forfeit this historical role, to the Jews, perhaps an Italian, for Italians granted “charity wealth” to Jews for planning/implimenting WWII and the Holocaust.
    In light of this “New Roman Empire”, since Christianity’s HQ is in Rome expect the Italians played some part in this historical, religious context.
    They suggested this event may already may have happened. If so this was the FAKE battle of good and evil, FAKE battle between the Second Coming of Christ and the Anti-Christ. They suggest the phoniness about it which was communicated to the disfavored telepathically was a clue. Ironically, this Situation is the REAL battle of good and evil, me vs. the gods.
    When the REAL battle of the Second Coming of Christ and Anti-Christ occurrs it will be theater, a staged event, and the Second Coming of Christ will “lead out” a pre-selected group, all of whom sign on to the god’s Christianity positioning, ironically incurring evil by participating and limiting their time in the process.
    Italians:::”(We’re all that. We deserve Second Coming.)” And they’re going to get it.
    The Boot will fuck you yet again::::People know Jesus isn’t the son of god, yet this is what the Bible dictates as requirement to be saved.
    Those whom the Second Coming will “lead out” will be a pre-selected group. But the “hangers on”, people who think they will be included by claiming to be believers will be disappointed. They will be mislead, left behind, The Boot’s final victims on Planet Earth.
    This is unimportant, irrelevant, because much like the creation of the perception of “savior” around Jesus to distract from his original purpose the gods used their tools to create this theater around me to prevent the disfavored from learning what I teach:::The Boot has fucked the disfavored twice, once when they ruined life in the 20th century, again when they were used to CHEAT you out and disposal of the Final Prophet. Just as they were talking heads for favored redwhite&blue expect this act to be cover for this organization, an original placement long before Italian placement in the “eye of The Beast”.
    Eiother way, the New Roman Empire is god’s Manifest Destiny positioning, and a clue they intend to fulfill their Christianity positioning as well.

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    Life used to be hard. People had to walk a mile to draw water. There was no refridgeration or canned foods. Now life is easy, but only in terms of life’s “basic necessities”.
    The “salvation” dynamic is quite the opposite:::We paid for our easy lives with our very souls.
    Life IS hard now. The gods have used their clone host tools to create the perception of evil rewarded (Italians, Japanese, etc) and then corrupted the disfavored with it. (Expect Asian Westernization is met with a European-style short memory span, allowing the gods to use their historical enemy, the Japanese, to corrupt Asians as they used the Italians to corrupt us).
    Before life was easier, more simple, innocent, pure. Employing these temptations ensured corruption is EXTREMELY difficult to overcome, a tactic which progressively ensures fewer disfavoreds repair their relationship with the gods.

    14 domesticable animals in the history of Planet Earth. None for Africa. In effect the gods were telling blacks:::::”Eat dirt.”
    Get a clue::::They don’t like you. They’re playing you for chumps.
    Blacks have forgotten their history. Italians preyed on them in the 20th century. They were slaves. The gods sent Pharroh in to rape, pillage and plunder.
    Jews have had a difficult history, but they developed empathy. As a result they tried to help the disfavored with 1492 exodus from Spain, scattered throughout Europe, etc.
    Blacks would be wise to examine this and try to emulate Jewish empathy.

    The clone hosting of Jesus.wav:::
    Much as we saw with another Mediterreanean prophet Mohammed the gods switched Jesus (good) and placed evil within the clone host so the gods could accomplish their goals::::Polygamy/misogyny and the creation of “savior” via Christianity.
    As I share:::Anytime the gods use their powers it is only to hurt you. “Miracles” are such an example. The gods only use their powers to disceive and mislead people as we all witness in different ways in each of our lives. Jesus’s miracles are a clue the gods were preying upon the disfavored.
    I suspect the teachings of good Jesus came in his 20s. Due to the unrespectability of Christianity, illustrated at least partially with Europe’s Sheep, I wonder if we ever did get a good Jesus before the age of 30.
    There is significant respectability among Muslims, and this may be reflected in the monagamous Mohammed.
    Every religion offers something which help people understand::: Reincarnation (Hindu), vengeful/wrathful god (Islam), etc.
    If you are afraid it is a good sign, for the gods are helping show you the right way to think. Don’t forget:::The gods lie to you, tell you Jesus is the “savior” but he floated up into the sky ALL ALONE!!! He didn’t save the disciples nor his precious mother. This is a clue from the gods helping you understand that you have to save yourselves.

    The Holocaust was foreshadowing.
    The gods established the pattern::::: the Jews sacrifice to help the disfavored understand::::
    1. 1492 exodus from Spain. Spain became evil – financed Columbus, initiated missionaries, USA (dumping ground of disfavored, victimized by god), etc.
    2. Spread throughout Europe as clue to Christians worshipping a false god.
    3. “Quasi-Holocaust claim” contradicting boss.
    4. 5. 6. 7. etc. etc. etc.
    I have put forth indisputable evidence, as you see above with the Jews. The gods will never admit any of it is true, ever, especially since THE BIGGEST JEWISH CLUE IS STILL OUTSTANDING::::THE HOLOCAUST!!!!!
    YOU HAVE TO DEFY!!!! The gods suggested the importance of defiance with the Holocaust:::The soldiers should have defied.
    They will lie to the disfavored up until the bitter end::::This tactic will ensure they claim a HUGE percentage of the disfavored, for so many refuse to defy and this will ensure they don’t go.
    When the REAL Holocuast happens people will sit by idley and watch tens of millions of blacks/cholos/white trash die, people who are the way they are (abusive, abrasive, violent, criminal) BECAUSE of their disfavor, and the computer makes them like that because of it, yet another reason why empathy is so important.
    The Jews showed you boss wasn’t going to happen with the Quasi-Holocaust claim. They will emphasize to the bitter end that there is no pattern of Jewish clues. They do so because there is still one clue outstanding, the most important clue:::::World War II’s Holocaust.
    The gods established the pattern:::The Jews sacrifice to help you understand::::1492 fled Spain, scattered throughout Europe to help the misled Christians understand, the Holocuast.
    The Jews sacrificed to show you boss wasn’t going to happen. When the Jews offer a clue you need to listen, and the Holocaust is the BIGGEST Jewish clue ever, the clue still outstanding.

    The Holocaust’s clue of defiance escaped you all:::::Everyone condemnes the blind obedience of the Nazi soldiers yet repeats this same behavior in your own personal lives, complying with every request they ask, even in the case of your precious children.
    ONE PURPOSE OF THE HOLOCAUST WAS TO COMMUNICATE THIS CLUE!!!! COMPLIANCE IS A MISTAKE!!!!!
    EVERYBODY does what they’re told, and look how bad society is deteriorated. THIS IS A CLUE!!!
    Telepathic requests constitute temptation.

    Much like matchmaking, much like so many social norms and mores the gods granted the people, they offered “prejudice” in the early days of this intermixing known as 20th century America.
    They told you to avoid Italians and blacks for good reason::::They are SO disfavored there is NOTHING either group won’t do. They will comply with every request. I know you people will too, in err, ignorant of or disregarding the god’s laws, but the difference was THE GODS WILL ASK THEM!!! You had too much favor for the gods to request such damaging behavior, at least until you became indecent too.
    Prejudice was good for everyone, for it ensured little opportunity for the gods to request, segregation and separation being common. It granted blacks especially more time to fix their problems and try to ascend, escaping this societal deterioration of the last 40+ years.
    As the people became increasingly indecent as the 20th century wore on so did we lose this precious benefit bestowed by the gods, opening the door for evil to befall us and for fatal evil to be incurred by the morbidly disfavored.
    Much like god’s law in holy books, “segregation” was favor bestowed upon the people::::The gods granted favor when they “segregated” us into our own areas of the world. This favor has been reversed not only within the context that is the United States but also with immigration witnessed throughout western Europe (and elsewhere?).
    Prior to civil rights blacks had their own press. In the absence of civil rights these entities would have grown into legitimate media outlets serving the black community.
    Maintaining segregation would have produced economic entities which arose from within the black community to fill the demand for goods and services.
    The presence of these “black industrialists” would have FORCED the gods to factor them into positioning, producing voices in support of the black community and preventing the gods from inflicting ALL THE SICKNESS WE HAVE WITNESSED IN THE last few decades::Crack babies, drive-by shootings, AIDS in Africa!!!
    The fastest growing industry in the ghetto is the oldest profession on Earth::::::The gods tell these Oakland pimps chilldhood prostitution is OK – Learn from the lies they tell other groups!!!

    The homosexual AIDS event happened because of their behavior in the SanFranciscio bathhouses.
    Italian claim to infamy is they destroyed life on earth. Irish claim is they prey on their own family members. Which one’s worse? Just as the gods targetted certain Italians for the degredation of life in the 20th century so did the do the same for the Irish, as I know all too well.
    Catholicism masculinized women. You have been warned:::CATHOLICS ARE BAD FOR YOU!!!

    I wonder how much the gods used the Green Bay geographic clue on the perpetually stupid Italians and used it to minimize abuses that otherwise would have ocurred?? “Sexual inadequecies of the men.” positioning may have justified “going easy” on a larger population of germans in the United States. All we need to do is look to blacks, enemies of the Roman Empire who were fucked wholesale, to see unabated abuses.
    The hypersexual laughing at superior life forms, ridiculing their favor.
    Incidentally, they share some of them will remain “perpetually stupid”. They are the Italians who crossed that line from person to preditor in the 30s, and they’re going to be on Planet Earth come Judgement Day, except in a non-Italian body, due to the god’s Manifest Destiny positioning of the New Roman Empire. Poetic justice.
    If I were king they would be the Italians who were pushed into it, for those who thought 1906 was a good idea would already be gone::::You suck.wav.

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    Hell’s Angels is yet another element to emerge from Oakland, the upper incisor of TheBeast, designed for ripping and tearing flesh. One element that links TheDamned, no matter the skin color:::::Violence.

    Fifth Season of Simpsons.
    Moe in group therapy for general public at school. He has a thought of Moe as a child wondering why adult Moe doesn’t speak with his Italian accent anymore?
    They are filth. But they sent this clue when they shaped their country like a boot.
    Incidentally, Italy looks like a high-heeled transsexual’s boot. Don’t be surprised if this is a dumping ground for select individuals:::Poetic justice. They were sexual deviates 2000 years ago and they were sexual deviates in the 20th century. Remember:::”Don’t let your daughters date Italians.”? The gods LOVE their irony.
    Moe is like the Italians whom set up the San Fernando Valley as the pornography capital that it is.

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    The rebirth of the 20th century’s New Roman Empire is positioned to be a clue Christianity is the one true religion, contributing to the god’s Manifest Destiny positioning.
    It5 also worked as a WONDERFUL corruptor with Italians, the disfavored’s enemies who subscribed to this shit and intentionally paved the way for the impending Apocalypse with the social deterioration witnessed in the 20th century. This is probably where the reputation “Italians are stupid.” comes from. “Don’t let your daughters date Italians.” is something else.
    The gods offered you The Boot AS A WARNING TO AVOID THIS DANGER!!!

    Just as AA meetings proves the gods will enforce their psychoanalysis positioning so does Manifest Destiny/New Roman Empire proves they will enforce their Christianity positioning.
    Planet Earth will die EXACTLY as it reads in the Book of Revelations.
    I was never going to save you. Nobody is. Just as they created polygamy around Mohammed so did they create the perception of savior around Jesus, designed to distract you from the true purpose of the prophet Jesus.
    And now you won’t listen to me either.
    Due to the unrespectability of Christianity, illustrated at least partially with Europe’s Sheep, I wonder if we ever did get a good Jesus before the age of 30.
    There is significant respectability among Muslims, and this may be reflected in the monagamous Mohammed.

    Much as with the Sigmund Freud psychoanalysis positioning the gods will too enforce their Manifest Destiny/Christianity positioning.
    They created the theater by giving me things like Boss and movies and other elements of the $100 billion. Calling these entities on their evil negates the positioned support of these organizations, which is and always was the god’s strategy for closure in the Situation.
    They lie, say I “saved” evil Italians, whom they say would not have been going because of the evil they inflicted upon the disfavored. Fingering this Italian shit allows the gods to position wiping that slate clean::::
    The gods will create the perception of evil rewarded by managing good and evil within their clone host tools then corrupt the disfavored with it.

    This is all part of the god’s Manifest Destiny theater, created using these clone host tools whom they rotate on a schedule based on use.
    Just like Sigmund Freud’s psychoanalysis they will enforce their Manifest Destiny/Christianity positioning as well:::People aren’t homosexual. They’re not alcoholics. They’re pushed into wanting it. That there are AlcoholicsAnonymous meetings occuring all across the planet proves the gods are going to enforce this lie. Similarly, the gods used some of their tools within this economic system to illustrate an “appeasement” of their Manifest Destiny superiors through preditory behavior upon enemies of this new “Roman Empire”.

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    Asians are the gods most favored race. It is evident in their uniformity. It is evident in their cultures.
    The gods place high barriers to entry for (some) Asians into the United States. This is yet another good example of reverse positioning, for the gods are really trying to protect those whom they grant favor upon.
    There are no barriers to entry for Latinos.
    When white people capitalize or exploit Asians they incurr and one day will be punished. This includes Chinese buffet restaurants, so prevalient in disfavored cities and the Southern United States, for the gods hate these people and want them to incurr.

    US popular culture is obsence. Intentionally. The gods are preying on the disfavored who remain, those foolish enough to participate.
    The Chinese have favor and the gods allow the government to protect the citizens, but Chinese cut-off is fast approaching, for soon westernization will level this playing field as well.
    This is yet another “BIG LIE” they sold to the disfavored, and it will ensure the homogination of Earth’s cultures via westernization.

    The gods still make effort through the Chinese government to protect the Chinese people. We hear about it in the United States, their Manifest Destiny/reverse positioning is used to label it “human rights violations”, paving the way for cancer that is democracy.
    Much as we saw in the United States regarding matchmaking, midwivery, female conservative dress and other topics, this tactic will slowly deteriorate this protection until China is completely infested with Westernization.

    If you lived in a communisitic state your 10 year old son wouldn’t be able to see pornographic images on the internet. The government would have filters in place to protect the people from this damaging behavior.
    Much like alcoholism, much like homosexuality the gods punish the people with magic.
    These desires you have are going to keep you out. I recommend you begin working on your problems, for if you don’t and are among those who are invited to Planet (Temptation) Manifest Destiny it will be very difficult, for life is fueled by magic up there, and if you don’t think right you won’t be staying for long.

    The gods are sending a clue Yahoo is good with this Chinese censorship issue.
    The American idea of freedom is a shock rocker anally masterbating with a crucifix. This is what the disfavored are free to enjoy in this open society, and due to their disfavor a certain percentage will

  19. #19 John Morales
    July 6, 2008

    Looks like the comment spam filter parameters need tweaking…

  20. #20 Silver
    July 6, 2008

    Whoa. Hypergraphia much, CIT?

    In my state, the ‘private’ BCBS plans cover the quacks.
    But there’s no coverage at all for mental health. Period. At all. Not even on a “X visits per year” basis. Group BCBS plans cover quacks; they cover psychiatry/MH as well, with reasonably stringent review.
    I think the above post makes my point for me. What was the productivity lost in scrolling through that?

  21. #21 Basiorana
    July 7, 2008

    Whoa, better delete that earlier comment. I’m sure it’s fascinating but it takes up a ridivulous amount of space and no one will read it.

  22. #22 Natalie
    July 7, 2008

    Just skimming throughout as I tried to scroll past it was amusing. I think I caught Nazis, Ned Flanders, hypersexuality, and “women are better than men.”

  23. #23 Ryan W.
    July 9, 2008

    If people deliberately want to take something that has been shown not to work, that’s their own choice. I’d be happy to see more public debates between those with opposing views. But the final choice needs to rest with the responsible party, meaning the individual being treated or their guardian.

    You’re welcome to think you know better than other people. You may even be right on some issues (and wrong on others.) Some parents do have legitimate reasons for refusing treatment, though, and I’d rather side with a parent’s choice, for good or ill, than with a “Well the state should FORCE the IDIOTS!” mentality. There are a few points where I disagree with mainstream medicine myself based on what I consider reasonably solid evidence. But a pile of medical abstracts would not be good enough to wrest control back from the medical establishment. Either doctors control a patient’s care or the patient does. I’d rather have the patient control things as much as economically possible, thanks very much,(note: I recognize a need to control insurance costs) since that may eventually be me. And sometimes the patient will do something really stupid. They reap the consequences far more than most doctors who merely have to provide a “standard of care.”

    For my own part, I’m glad for this broadening of standards since no one’s compelling anyone to get therapy they don’t believe in and there are some isolated nuggets of goodness from CAM, particularly from herbal medicine, that I’d carefully select.

  24. #24 Richard Eis
    July 22, 2008

    You need to start applying comment limits.

    I suggest if its over the limit…it gets the first 5 lines…then just “comment too long”.

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