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Is the earth still circling the sun?

Category: Alternative medicineAntivaccination lunacyAutismMedicineQuackery
Posted on: October 31, 2008 12:46 AM, by Orac

I ask this question because I have seen something I have never seen before, something so earth-shattering that I wonder if the very axis of the earth has shifted, something so incredible that I have to pinch myself to make sure that I'm not living some unbelievably bizarre dream. I half expect the heavens to open and reveal the Second Coming. What could provoke such incredulity in me?

WorldNetDaily has published an article that is science-based and makes sense. A sample:

Much more disturbingly, McCarthy attacked Peet for daring to disagree with her. "She has a lot of [nerve] to come forward and be on that side," Fox quoted [Jenny] McCarthy as saying, "because there is an angry mob on my side, and I like the fact that I can say she's completely wrong."

McCarthy delights in the fact that the force of her opinion comes, not from copious amounts of research, not from firm and reproducible medical and technological evidence, and not even from reasonable and logical speculation, but from legions of irrational and rabidly superstitious parents who simply know that they're right, regardless of what may be true. Question them, and they will shout you down, insult you and condemn you ... all because you dared to oppose their ridiculous and dangerous campaign on the grounds that medical science proves exactly the opposite of what they claim.

See what I mean? This is even more startling a development than if Sarah Palin suddenly had a moment of revelation and realized that she's utterly unqualified to be President or Vice President. Or maybe Mike Adams of NaturalNews.com suddenly realizing that he's been supporting quackery all these years and suddenly endorsing Science-Based Medicine.

Man, when WorldNetDaily starts making far more sense than you do, you've got a problem. Too bad J. B. Handley, Jenny McCarthy, and their merry band of antivaccinationists are too dense ever to realize that.

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I'm actually hoping it's stopped clock syndrome...otherwise what will we do for fun now?

Posted by: Richard Eis | October 31, 2008 5:21 AM

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I refuse to click on the link. It's a cleverly disguised Rickroll! It must be!

Posted by: Skwee | October 31, 2008 7:30 AM

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AH AH! I thought my toilet flushed the opposite way this morning. I guess I was right.

The world is ending.

Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp, KoT, OM | October 31, 2008 8:10 AM

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Virtually simultaneously with that earth shaking news, Dr. Nancy Snyderman of the Today Show, in the spirit of the Phillies winning the world series, interviewed Dr. Paul Offit, (who is reputed to be a big Phillies fan) and, also hit a grand slam.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27440647/

Way to go Dr. O, and Dr. S.

Posted by: TheProbe | October 31, 2008 9:02 AM

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You may choose either to embrace technological innovation and change, or you may choose to be ignorant. If you play games with your child's vaccination schedule because of superstition that has been discredited repeatedly, you and, more importantly, your children will suffer the consequences. The damage, however, isn't limited to just your family. You are endangering the children of everyone with whom your kids come into contact.

Wow, is this an early April fools joke?

For those who aren't familiar, WND normally runs the most crackpot stories imaginable:

Poor Darwin's false religion

Sleaze charge: 'I took drugs, had homo sex with Obama'

Soy is making kids 'gay'

Posted by: Joseph C. | October 31, 2008 9:36 AM

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If you look at the titles of the report on msnbc - doctor "challenges" link, doctor "disputes" link, you notice the true position of the author.

It's a bit like "scientist challenges the fact that the earth is flat".

Posted by: Mu | October 31, 2008 9:53 AM

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Skee,

You always have Free Republic.

Posted by: I am so wise | October 31, 2008 10:00 AM

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Well, that's odd. I usually read WND for my daily dose of LOL.

Posted by: marilove | October 31, 2008 10:32 AM

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No.. this can't be what it seems.

What it is, its a plan to discredit vaccines by saying WND supports it, and nothing they say is real.

Very sneaky there McCarthy, very sneaky. Next you'll try and get the Huffington Post to go pro-Vaccine just to prove that you're right.

Posted by: Evinfuilt | October 31, 2008 11:48 AM

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?fooW...

Posted by: Bronze Dog | October 31, 2008 2:15 PM

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Mu said: "If you look at the titles of the report on msnbc - doctor "challenges" link, doctor "disputes" link, you notice the true position of the author."

If you watch the video, which people watched on television, you will see Dr. Snyderman tell Matt Lauer that there is no controversy. None. Nada. Three times.

Editorial writers are trained to bow down to the dicotomy of false balance. If the show had a flat earther, I am sure that the headline would read: "Goegrapher challenges arguents about the shape of the Earth."

Posted by: TheProbe | October 31, 2008 4:10 PM

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thanks, the streaming video part is off-limits for me at work, will check it out tonight

Posted by: Mu | October 31, 2008 5:28 PM

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I find the blurb on the video link to be ripe with subtext, implying that Dr. Offit's is a minority view:

NBC chief medical editor Dr. Nancy Snyderman tells the story of one doctor who believes vaccines are not to blame for autism.

Yes, the video is fairly straightforward in its advocacy of science-based medicine, though it adds a bit of "false fairness," as a journalist friend of mine once put it. Matt Lauer, on the other hand, seems to be a believer in "where there's smoke, there's fire," and was doing his best to shut down Dr. Snyderman's explicit denial of any medical uncertainty. Yes, there's a controversy, Matt, but it's not a scientific controversy -- it very much resembles the evolution vs. creationism "debate."

Posted by: Pieter B | November 1, 2008 2:08 AM

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Whoa... World Nut Daily smacks down Jenny McCarthy ?
Something is seriously wrong here.
uh oh. my cat and dog are sleeping together. . .
The End Times Have Come!
:::cue Mass Hysteria :::

Posted by: DLC | November 1, 2008 8:30 AM







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