Respectful Insolence

I’ve had a lot of fun over the last couple of years deconstructing the black holes of woo that a certain advocate of “natural” remedies likes to lay down on a regular basis. Yes, I’m referring to a guy named Mike Adams, who runs a website called NaturalNews.com. Indeed, Adams has made NaturalNews.com a bastion of quackery and outright wingnuttery.

Apparently that isn’t enough.

I don’t know how long it’s been around, but apparently Mike Adams is branching out. Now he’s decided that he wants to do a wiki about “natural” living. He’s calling it, appropriately enough, Naturalpedia:

Welcome to NaturalPedia.org, the free encyclopedia on natural health and natural living. This site was created (and funded) by NaturalNews.com and is designed to provide a natural alternative to Wikipedia.com, which has become too strongly influenced by drug companies and western medical biases.

Of course. So what does Adams want to do about it? This:

Please help contribute to NaturalPedia.org. Feel free to post truthful information about natural cures, natural products and natural living. Although this site is just being launched, in time it will grow to be a large and valuable resource on the kind of natural living wisdom that the FDA and other corrupt authorities would prefer to banish from the internet.

Far be it from me to turn down such a heartfelt request.

Does anyone remember Wiki4CAM? Remember how much fun people had producing scientifically accurate articles for it, or, even more amusingly, seriously hilarious parodies? Ultimately, the creators of Wiki4CAM caught on, although even now, a year later, Wiki4CAM represents a big fat FAIL, full of credulous, non-science-based articles about various “alternative” therapies.

Oddly enough, there’s very little content in Mike Adam’s Naturalpedia. Maybe we can help. All of these articles were posted last week; so maybe it’s just that Mike hasn’t had a chance to add a bunch of articles near and dear to his woo-loving heart. So maybe–just maybe–we can do for Mike Adams now what we did for Wiki4CAM and add a bit of science-based discussion of various “alternative” medicine topics. After all, we did it once before nearly a year ago.

I’m sure Mike will be grateful for the help. While we’re at it, I wonder if Wiki4CAM still needs help, too. There don’t appear to be very many articles there, even nearly a year later.

Comments

  1. #1 Abvel
    July 21, 2009

    http://MUNGED.UP.CRAP.blogspot.com/

    [Orac sez: Your post is off topic spam. It has nothing to do with the subject matter of this post. Goodbye.]

  2. #2 sophia8
    July 21, 2009

    Abvel, kindly post your spam elewhere. Like Amanda’s own site for instance.

  3. #3 Rogue Medic
    July 21, 2009

    Feel free to post truthful information about natural cures, natural products and natural living.

    If naturopaths have been the ones posting so far, doesn’t he mean Feel free to be the first to post truthful information about natural cures, natural products and natural living.

    designed to provide a natural alternative to Wikipedia.com

    A natural alternative to Wikipedia? As in not on the internet, because the internet runs on science. Evil computers and other un-natural things. Then there is all of that thinking at the expense of believing that is so un-natural.

    Naturopedia – A natural venue for censorship.

  4. #4 BeccaStareyes
    July 21, 2009

    Because this worked so well for Conservapedia. Bets open for the first CAM practitioner who gets banned for not agreeing to Mike Adam’s party line, like thinking that some CAM is nonsense or that the FDA are not coming with black helicopters.

  5. #5 Epinephrine
    July 21, 2009

    @ BeccaStareyes

    I always try to refer to ASchlafly’s site as Conservapaedia (or, if you like ASCII, conservap├Ždia), as they ban non-american spelling, it irritates the users there, and it prevents it bumping up their google-meter (which they take pride in – part of that “no such thing as bad publicity” thing).

  6. #6 Calli Arcale
    July 21, 2009

    *snorts*

    Translation: Wikipedia lets people who disagree with Adams edit articles, and requires actual citations. So Adams wants to take his ball and go home.

    Fine by me. Should make life easier for Wikpedia editors, too.

  7. #7 techskeptic
    July 21, 2009

    This is great news!

    Now when if I am ever hard up for material, I have an endless source of woo goodness! Thanks Mike!

  8. #8 Stu
    July 21, 2009

    Maybe we can steal this one. It’s really, really high-quality. Especially the way it ends.

    http://www.wiki4cam.org/wiki/Emotional_Freedom_technique_(EFT)

  9. #9 Pareidolius
    July 21, 2009

    A stern warning from The Health (de)Ranger’s own intro . . .

    NaturalPedia.org will always remain free. It is the online encyclopedia for the People, not for corporations. Please help us keep this information free and truthful by contributing your own knowledge and helping to remove any pro-Pharma disinformation (or pro chemo, pro disease mongering, etc.) that might be placed here by people working for the disease industry.

    When a website welcomes you by displaying critical thinking skills of this caliber, well, you just gotta pitch in and help out=]

  10. #10 Mystyk
    July 21, 2009

    I figure you don’t really need to edit any of the primary content, just add “[citation needed]” after every few sentences. It gets our point across, without being something he can actually challenge as a violation of his policies short of just coming out and admitting that there is no evidence. Sowing doubt about doubt, if you will…

  11. #11 Rogue Epidemiologist
    July 21, 2009

    But Mystyk, that would require him to believe that data are necessary. In that sphere, anecdotes and ancient wisdom are better than data!

    How about we just make up stuff and attribute it to some obscure archaesociety and flood their pages with content. It would be just as valid.

  12. #12 Dangerous Bacon
    July 21, 2009

    But doesn’t Mike Adams have an army of demented wackaloons citizen journalists to fill up his wiki for him?

  13. #13 Denice Walter
    July 21, 2009

    Adams, forever harping on “corporations”….isn’t he just a “set” of corporations himself? Seriously, these woo-meisters who carry on about Big Pharma,”greedy” doctors,and so forth,aren’t just selling purely for “karmic reward”.I found out total sales for another high profile woo-provider: between $1 and $10 million per year,his own web site led me to infer it was between $1 and $5 million (sources:spoke.com.;Gary Null’s Stimulus Package @ Gary Null.com).I know that they have expenses,payroll, marketing firms,coteries of lawyers,even so, do you think they earn(net) what an average American, even an average American MD earns?

  14. #14 Emerson Cardoso
    August 14, 2009

    So a single question, to which pharmaceutical company you work for??? Would it be just all???

    http://www.anovaordemmundial.com/

  15. #15 Chris
    August 14, 2009

    Emerson, do you know how to read? Have you bothered to read this blog? Do you know what a surgeon is?

  16. #16 Emerson Cardoso
    August 17, 2009

    Sure I know how to read and what a surgeon is, but that doesn’t stop you from been ignorant and probably is the reason for you not trying to open your eyes for the power of the big-pharma.

  17. #17 Ashtanga London
    July 23, 2011

    Ashtanga yoga may help to reduce cursing. Call for research!

  18. #18 Ashtanga London
    July 23, 2011

    Have you got a PMID for that claim?

    Why do you feel the need to put down people who are less intelligent than yourself? (assuming that’s what I am, and it ‘may’ be reasonable to assume there is a 50% chance you are right).

  19. #19 deb
    July 23, 2011

    Mike adams fcked his wh0re mother

  20. #20 Chris
    July 23, 2011

    deb, that was totally unnecessary to post on an almost two year old article.

  21. #21 Chris
    July 23, 2011

    But it obviously does not promote intelligence!

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