Dr. Oz defiantly embraces The Dark Side

Stick a fork in Dr. Oz. He’s done.

I know I’ve been highly critical of Dr. Mehmet Oz, Vice Chair of the Department of Surgery at Columbia University and medical director of the Integrative Medicine Program (i.e., Columbia’s quackademic medicine) program at New York-Presbyterian Hospital. Those are his academic titles. More important, in terms of his promotion of pseudoscience, is his role as daytime medical show host. Dr. Oz’s television show, called, appropriately enough, The Dr. Oz Show, is a direct result of his having been featured on Oprah Winfrey’s show on numerous occasions as one of her regular medical experts. Because of his popularity, Dr. Oz became Oprah’s protégé and ultimately got his very own popular TV show, which has been quite successful.

So what has led me to conclude that I’ve finally had it with Dr. Oz?

The final straw occurred yesterday, but this has been building up for a while. Of course, I always knew that Dr. Oz has a weak spot for “alternative medicine.” A decade ago, he was known for bringing reiki masters into the operating room do their mystical magical gestures during cardiac surgery, the better to channel the healing energy of the “universal source” into his patients before they went onto the cardiopulmonary bypass machine. Even so, even though I always knew Dr. Oz was into some woo, most of the times I ever saw him on Oprah’s show and the rare occasion that I’ve seen his show, the worst I could say about him was that he is too prone to mixing perfectly valid, science-based information with the “softer” forms of “complementary and alternative” medicine (CAM) modalities, such as acupuncture and reiki. Even so, CAM didn’t seem to be a large part of his show. That seems to have changed in 2010.

As 2010 dawned, I became aware of a show in which Dr. Oz promoted reiki completely uncritically, beginning the year with a show entitled Dr. Oz’s Ultimate Alternative Medicine Secrets. It wasn’t too long before Dr. Oz did it again, delivering a two-fer of “quantum” quackery coupled with just plain quackery, inviting Deepak Chopra and Joe Mercola on his show. He also hadn’t had his children vaccinated against H1N1 and seemed to be sympathetic to the concept that vaccines might somehow cause autism. None of this was good, but, as disturbing as it was, it didn’t quite cross a line. Quite.

As 2011 dawns, there is no doubt in my mind that Dr. Oz has now inevitably crossed the Woo-bicon, gone over to the Dark Side, betrayed the cause, gone woo, or whatever you want to call it. I say again: Stick a fork in him. He’s done, as far as science-based medicine goes. That’s because he featured one of the biggest promoters of quackery on the Internet on his show in one fawning segment after another. I’m referring, of course, to Dr. Joe Mercola, who was the main guest on The Dr. Oz Show yesterday in segments entitled The Alternative Health Controversy (part 1, part 2, part 3), coupled with another segment entitled The Surprising Supplement You Need. Let’s just say that Dr. Oz’s journey to the Dark Side is now complete. He has controlled his fear but released his woo, and it is strong woo indeed.

To give you an idea of just how bad this is, take a look at the introduction to the show before the credits. Dr. Mercola is described as a “pioneer in alternative medicine” and “a man your doctor doesn’t want you to know.” I don’t know about you, but hearing that made me think instantly of Kevin Trudeau and his now-infamous book of quackery Natural Cures “They” Don’t Want You To Know About.

And Dr. Oz is defiant right out of the box. Describing Joe Mercola as a “pioneer of holistic treatments” and a “lightning rod,” Dr. Oz says that plenty of his fellow doctors are going to be angry at him for having invited Mercola back. I don’t know about angry, but my opinion of Dr. Oz has hit an all-time low over this. Particularly nauseating is the taped segment that follows, which lionizes Dr. Mercola as someone who has made a career out of “challenging everything you think you know about traditional medicine and prescription drugs.” I suppose that’s true in a trivial sense in that Mercola has been well known to promote all manner of quackery, whether it be Tullio Simoncini’s cancer quackery that claims cancer is a fungus and that the cure is baking soda; his teaming up with Barbara Loe Fisher to promote anti-vaccine misinformation in November; his belief in raw milk faddism; and even his selling of homeopathy. Peruse Mercola’s website, and it won’t take you very long to find health information that is pure pseudoscience and quackery. He even fell for a dubious study that claimed that, because investigators couldn’t find cancer in Egyptian mummies, cancer didn’t exist back then and is therefore a “man-made” disease.One depressing tidbit of information, if it’s true, is that Dr. Mercola’s website is the fourth largest health website on the Internet. If that doesn’t show how bad health information on the Internet is, I don’t know what does.

Worse, Mercola is portrayed as having alerted the world to the importance of vitamin D and the “dangers of high fructose corn syrup” (which is not nearly as dangerous as Mercola would have you believe). In reality, appreciating the importance of vitamin D has come out of medical science, not Dr. Mercola, and in actuality the science behind the role of vitamin D is in evolution. What Dr. Mercola is most responsible for, along with Mike Adams, is promoting vitamin D as some sort of miracle supplement that will prevent heart disease, cancer, and aging. His “alerting the world” about HFCS consists mainly of overblown fear mongering that blames HFCS for virtually all modern human health problems. It’s the very antithesis of a reasoned weighing of risks versus benefits based on science. Worse, right out of the box, Mercola spouts his same old nonsense in which he represents himself as a bastion against the evil pharmaceutical companies, a champion of the concept that “we can take control of our health” using “natural lifestyle approaches,” castigating medicine as “treating only the symptoms.”


Annoyingly, Dr. Oz asks Dr. Mercola, “What makes people so angry at you?” Dr. Mercola then invokes his criticisms of Vioxx (of all things) and then cites Arthur Schopenhauer’s famous saying, “All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.” I’ve always hated this saying because it’s so trite, and it’s not even true itself. But even if it were true, untruth wouldn’t make it to the third stage. Purveyors of pseudoscience, like Dr. Mercola, never make it to the third stage but desperately want to. So they reassure themselves when they get stuck at the ridicule or opposition stages that it’s all because they are promoting a “truth” that is so threatening and that they will eventually get to the third stage.

But it gets worse. Dr. Oz even goes so far as to describe modern medicine as being in a “civil war,” which makes me wonder if the criticism of his embrace of pseudoscience is starting to get to him. Be that as it may, Dr. Oz claims that he wants to “get the two sides talking to each other.” In all fairness, I will say that Dr. Oz does get some minor points for citing criticism of Dr. Mercola as a supplement hawker who is no different from pharmaceutical companies in that he says what he needs to say to sell a product. Actually, that’s a spot-on description of Mercola. That’s exactly what he is–a salesman–who will say whatever it takes to sell his product. True, the best salesmen actually believe in the products they’re selling, but that doesn’t excuse Mercola if he does believe in his products (I’m not always sure that he does) or excuse him for peddling medical pseudoscience.

Mercola’s reply is priceless and sad. First, he says that he sells only “natural” products, as if that matters one whit to the accusation of his having a massive conflict of interest every bit as bad as that of any pharmaceutical company. Second, he states that he didn’t sell anything the first three years of his website’s existence, as though that mattered at all either. His excuse? Publishing his newsletter and keeping his website going was costing him a half a million dollars a year, leaving him the choice of selling things he “believes in” or selling advertising. Then, he states that no one has ever died taking his supplements, as though that matters when it comes to his massive conflict of interest, contrasting it to the “drug model.” Mercola has no way of knowing that no one has ever died taking his supplements, and I do know that at least one person has died as a result of quackery featured on Mercola’s website, namely a woman who died after Tullio Simoncini tried to treat her breast cancer by injecting it with baking soda. He then goes on and on about how he promotes “healthy natural supplements.” Dr. Oz eats this up, playing the world’s weakest “skeptic” by saying that he “doesn’t always agree” with Dr. Mercola. That’s just a prelude to Dr. Oz planting his lips firmly against Dr. Mercola’s rectum by calling him “so far ahead of us” and asking him where he finds out all this wonderful information that he provides. If there is one brief moment that is the most nauseating of all, that most characterizes Dr. Oz’s fall from grace.

Mercola then goes on to hawk coconut oil as a treatment for Alzheimer’s disease. Personally, I was curious; so I did a PubMed search. Actually, I did quite a few PubMed searches, and I had a hell of a time finding anything linking the use of coconut oil to the treatment of any form of dementia rather than just Alzheimer’s. Maybe I didn’t get the right search terms; so I tried Google Scholar as well. I found a few animal studies, but that’s about it. Oddly enough, although there are quite a few articles about coconut oil on Mercola’s website, but almost nothing that even mentions using coconut oil for treating Alzheimer’s disease or other forms of dementia and only three references looking at medium chain triglycerides as a treatment for Alzheimer’s disease and dementia. Now, there‘s some seriously thin evidence. So I went to the almighty Google, and what I found are a lot of CAM websites touting coconut oil as a treatment for Alzheimer’s disease, such as here. The concept seems to come from a physician named Dr. Mary Newport, who claims that her husband suffering from Alzheimer’s improved after the addition of coconut oil to his diet. Looking at this claim in more detail might make a good topic for a future post, but I must say that I wasn’t too impressed with what I could find. It’s hard to believe that Dr. Oz or his staff never bothered to look for the studies supporting the use of coconut oil for the treatment of Alzheimer’s. If that had been done, it would have been rapidly apparent how thin that evidence was. I also note that I’ve written about one of the other supplements Mercola hawked, namely L-arginine. Again, the evidence isn’t too persuasive supporting the claims for that one, either, even if a Nobel Laureate is out there hawking it as a supplement for Herbalife.

In the final segment of Mercola’s appearance, Mercola promotes a supplement I had never heard of before, astaxanthin. Surprisingly, there isn’t that much on Mercola’s website about it, although PubMed actually does have some interesting review articles on it. There actually is some evidence that astaxanthin might well have beneficial effects on cardiovascular health and other aspects of health. However, to date most studies are either cell culture or animal studies, with several smaller clinical trials. In other words, touting astaxanthin as some sort of miracle supplement is irresponsible and premature. The evidence just isn’t robust enough to recommend it to the general population. Not that any of this stops Dr. Oz from giving Mercola a platform or Mercola from taking full advantage of it.

Dr. Oz ends this segment by saying to Dr. Mercola:

You’re a lightning rod for controversy. I’m glad you’re on the show today, and I asked Dr. Mercola to be on the show today because you forced me, as you force all physicians, to think critically about what we’re offering you [faces the audience] as advice. And the alternatives you [faces Mercola] talk to us about and the questions that you force us to ask allow us to reevaluate what we’re doing, which helps you [faces the audience again] get get more truthful information. I thank you [faces Mercola] for that.

Anyone got any Pepto-Bismol around? My stomach is suddenly feeling very queasy.

There is no excuse for this. Dr. Oz, by featuring a noted quackery supporter as influential as Dr. Mercola, has done his viewers–nay, science-based medicine itself–a grave disservice. Worse, not only is Dr. Oz not skeptical of Mercola; he embraces him, with only a few minor quibbles where “I don’t always agree.” Add to that Dr. Oz’s enthusiastic promotion of the fallacy of the golden mean, in which he argues that optimal health care would be achieved by somehow melding woo with scientific medicine (or, as promoters of quackademic medicine like to put it, “integrating” CAM with science-based medicine–or, as I like to put it, “integrating” quackery with medicine), and Dr. Oz’s show can only be described as having utterly destroyed what little shred of credibility that Dr. Oz had left. In his quest to conquer television and become “America’s doctor,” it’s clear that Dr. Oz has left behind his scientific integrity. it’s hard not to liken this to the proverbial deal with the devil for his very soul.

Still not convinced? Then check this out:

The Dr. Oz Show was set to air a special show featuring Dr. Issam Nemeh and two of his patients who experienced miraculous healings on January 11, 2011. Due to the recent congressional shooting, the episode has been rescheduled for February 1.

That’s right. Nemeh is a faith healer. If it’s good enough for Oprah, I guess it’s good enough for Dr. Oz. The only difference is that Oprah gets John of God, and Dr. Oz has to go to the second or third tier of faith healers.


  1. #1 Rufus T. Firefly
    January 22, 2011

    I rest my case, your pomposity and humorlessness might play better elsewhere, but here it just seems kind of sad after a while. You clearly have intelligence yet you fall for the bait every time and the more you disapprove of us, the more fun it is for us. You must either enjoy engaging with us because it makes you feel so superior to us poor, benighted pseudoskeptics, or you’re a masochist. That would make you more interesting at least.

  2. #2 purenoiz
    January 22, 2011

    Am I a skeptic because I follow the evidence, or am I not a skeptic since I don’t belong to a skeptic group? Apparently Anthony is the only skeptic, since he doesn’t belong to a club. But the evidence he left shoes he doesn’t follow the evidence, which is scorn and ridicule work to keep certain ideas in their place. Since meme’s have to travel through people, for memes to take hold, those memes had to be attached to credible respected people. Reiki is or was until this show a modality way outside of the mainstream consciousness, as was astaxanthin. Now, apparently Anthony in his ignorance of how people actually behave, let me tell you something you ignorant piece of arrogant trash. Dr Oz carries a lot of weight with the general public. You may doubt this, but 4 years ago when he was on Oprah, he mentioned that Neti Pots helped with allergies. At the store I worked at we sold out of them in a manner of minutes, the entire country was out of stock for about 6 weeks. The sales of this item, went from about 1 a month to 50-100 a month per store. If Dr Oz says something is good, effective etc, people listen. Obviously Reiki is safe, if all you are doing is having somebody wave their hands over your head., body whatever. Now the reality is that people may & will go to a reiki master for treatment in lieu of requisite effective treatment. That will happen as surely as snow falls in winter.

    Anthony, a word to the smart, time to get wise. As in gain experience in the real world, not in books. Follow the evidence, and see how things pan out in the real world, not in philosophical debates. Does it bother you that nobody listens to you, or allows you into their club?

  3. #3 Anthony McCarthy
    January 22, 2011

    I’m just enjoying this fine display of reasoning by the “skeptics”

    You proud of the kids, Orac?

  4. #4 Militant Agnostic
    January 22, 2011

    It’s like the transcript of a child organising a dollies’ tea-party.

    #202 – MOMMY! They’re being mean to me.

  5. #5 novalox
    January 23, 2011


    Want some cheese with that whine?

    In your case, some Cheese Whiz would sound right, considering how pathetic your “arguments” have been, I probably wouldn’t waste anything better on you.

  6. #6 WTLevine
    January 25, 2011

    Most of the comments here have nothing to do with what Orac even wrote. What he wrote…sounds like whining. Every thing said on the show was just basic stuff most people already do to stay healthy. There was no major bashing of medicine….just eat right, exercise, avoid crap, etc etc. It is boring, but correct. He strongly recommended you eat right in lieu of supplements, and it isnt it the point to avoid medications and surgery by staying healthy in the first place. Prevent most heart disease, most obesity, most diabetes, most cancer, etc by not eating a bunch of crap to get fat in the first place. Preventive Medicine is the most important of all disciplines. Simple, common sense. What is the problem here. I work the emergency shift, so I enjoy Dr Oz when I wake up.

  7. #7 Chris
    January 25, 2011

    WTLevine, how did you feel about Orac saying “Mercola then goes on to hawk coconut oil as a treatment for Alzheimer’s disease.”

    Do you think coconut oil is a valid treatment for Alzheimer’s disease? Yes or no. If yes, please tell us the what papers support that opinion since Orac could not find any.

  8. #8 WTLevine
    January 25, 2011

    He did not say that coconut oil would cure a.d. He said it was a good fat that helps with the symptoms of a.d. Which is true. It is an adjunct treatment and it wont hurt a thing. BTW, coconut oil is good for you as far as oils go, and it is better to eat it for prevention in the first place. Did you know it is the most stable oil when heated?, so it is the best to cook with. You shouldnt heat olive oil. It is very healthy to eat on salads and such, but not to cook with.

    Do YOU have a valid treatment for Alzheimer’s disease? yes or no. If yes, please tell us….oh you cant…because there is no valid treatment that works for everybody without severe side effects. My father in law suffered terribly from the side effects of the drugs he received. You know what actually helped him improve quite a bit for awhile… fish oil. Yes, this was years ago, and it was part of the doctors orders. It did wonders after the meds had all made him very sick with no improvement. I dont know why I even replied to you. Your posts are always like junior high. Dont you agree, yes or no? Yes!!

  9. #9 Chris
    January 25, 2011

    I am only going by what Orac wrote. So correct Orac, and give him the proper information. (Actually try Dr. Steven Novella, he studies Alzheimer’s). Try to get something more evidence based than a rant when you come back with those studies that show coconut oil helps with the symptoms of Alzheimer’s.

    Remember, if you make a claim, you need to support it.

    Actually, I have high cholesterol. Coconut oil is something I am supposed to stay away from! Olive oil works fine for most cooking, and vegetable oil is fine for really hot frying (like searing). I don’t deep fry.

  10. #10 Chris
    January 25, 2011


    He strongly recommended you eat right in lieu of supplements, and it isnt it the point to avoid medications and surgery by staying healthy in the first place.

    By the way, you did not specify who you were writing about. Is it Dr. Oz or Dr. Mercola?

    If it is Dr. Mercola, then why does he even sell supplements? Also if he supports staying healthy why does he advocate on his website that people drink raw milk and avoid vaccines. Both of those stances would seem to invite disease!

  11. #11 WTLevine
    January 25, 2011

    *If it is Dr. Mercola, then why does he even sell supplements?

    Dr Oz asked him that, and Orac posted the answer. Then he was asked which supplements he takes himself, and he named a few specific ones, not a multi. He said of course he recommended nutrients to come from the diet. He said do not think you can eat poorly and not exercise, and then fix it with a pill. I have only seen Mercola in this interview, and he didnt make any extraordinary health claims which is why the telecast was fine.

    *website that people drink raw milk and avoid vaccines. Both of those stances would seem to invite disease!

    He never mentioned vaccines on the show, and I havent seen his site, but of course raw milk is the healthiest if you can get it.
    If you have your own few well cared for cows or goats to get fresh milk from you cant beat that. The process of pasteurization only has to be done because they milk so many cows and mix it together, have to transport and package it and then finally you get it, but the nutrients you were drinking the milk for in the first place are gone. I have 6 goats, you should get some.

  12. #12 Chris
    January 26, 2011

    You’ve never been anywhere near a dairy farm. Manure management is a major concern, plus the stuff is sprayed over the pastures to provide fertilizer for the grass. This is what gives Tillamook, OR its special aroma.

    You really don’t have a clue, do you? Especially since you forgot to provide actual evidence for any of your claims.

  13. #13 WTLevine
    January 26, 2011

    again, if you can get fresh raw milk, but most people cant. You shouldnt be buying milk from a commercial dairy farm idiot. As I said, that kind of milk needs to be pasteurized because it is crap. literally. BTW, did you pasteurize your breast milk? Healthy animals yeilding fresh milk is the way to go. It is called common sense, decades of farming experience, decades of large animal vet work, and yes, there is plenty of actual evidence too. Look it up yourself. I didnt provide any because I didnt mention anything controversial. Would you really milk your own goat and then send it away to be mixed with others, pasteurized and then buy it back? You dont have a clue. You probably dont want to have a clue because then you cant pretend anymore. The smell is probably the least of your problems if you are drinking that milk.

  14. #14 Chris
    January 26, 2011

    Why do you think your rant and the ever so lazy “Look it up yourself” gambit substitute for real evidence?

    More proof you have never been anywhere near a cow barn, one does not need to pasteurize human breast milk unless their home is covered in manure. And small outfits also have issues:

    According to the FDA inspection report, employees did not thoroughly wash or sanitize hands when they may have become soiled or contaminated, and hand-washing facilities were inadequate. Manure, mud, straw, wood chips and other debris had accumulated on the floors.

  15. #15 WTLevine
    January 26, 2011

    employees, manure, grain fed, hormones, overproduction, commercial commercial. I see you need to find your milk elsewhere. I grew up with cows, but goats are wonderful pets. I still recommend you get a few or make friends with someone who has them. Time for sleep. You have a nice day.

  16. #16 Gray Falcon
    January 26, 2011

    I take it, then, you grew up around cows that didn’t excrete?

  17. #17 Chris
    January 26, 2011

    Did you even read what I wrote?

  18. #18 QuietObserver
    February 2, 2011

    … alright, I won’t lie. I didn’t read ALL the posts. But I read enough to say that I think it’s kind of childish of BOTH PARTIES to go around insulting each other. Calling someone else a quack really doesn’t make you a better practitioner.

    Peace and love, everyone. No progress will be made if we’re too busy fighting each other over who’s the coolest kid on the playground.

  19. #19 Angela
    March 1, 2011

    I think, at some point in the future, the author of this document and perhaps some of the commenters (is that a word?) will reflect on it and possibly find that, yes, this article was wrong. Why do I feel this way? My undergraduate degree was in advertising, and in our studies we reviewed old ads to see how the profession has changed over time for one reason or another. I have seen ads — BY DOCTORS AND FOR THE MEDICAL PROFESSION — from the 50s and 60s that say smoking is not at all harmful. Fast forward to the 21st century. I’ll let you all reflect on that. Good night and good luck.

  20. #20 Chris
    March 1, 2011


    BY DOCTORS AND FOR THE MEDICAL PROFESSION — from the 50s and 60s that say smoking is not at all harmful.

    Actually, those were actors and models paid by the tobacco companies (and sometimes tobacco companies found sympathetic doctors). Click on the “Robert Jackler” link about the advertising. Also listen to the podcast, you can hear how upset Dr. Jackler is about the lies and harm perpetuated by the tobacco companies.

    You majored in advertising, you should have known better. The tobacco companies were reacting to the real science that showed in the 1950s that smoking was harmful: Cigarettes and the US Public Health Service in the 1950s:

    In 1950, 3 classic papers were published linking cigarette smoking and lung cancer.9–11 All 3 studies used the retrospective case–control method, comparing the smoking habits of lung cancer patients with those of a control group without lung cancer, and were cautious about asserting a causal link. There had been work before World War II on the relationship between smoking and health,12 but it was only during the 1950s that the issue came to the forefront of the American scientific community.

  21. #21 Militant Agnostic
    March 1, 2011

    Chris – “Angela’s” comment is nearly identical to one by “Laurie” in the naturopathy – science thread. I smell sock puppets.

  22. #22 Orac
    March 1, 2011


    Actually, the PHS article you cite leaves out a very important contributor to knowledge about tobacco smoking and cancer that’s a historical oddity that few people know about. Actually, the Nazis were the first to nail down the link between smoking and lung cancer, and they did it at least 15 years before the U.S. did. In fact, the Nazis were even the first to invent the term “passive smoking” (for secondhand smoke) and suggest that it might have harmful health effects. This is all documented in Robert Proctor’s The Nazi War on Cancer.

  23. #23 Militant Agnostic
    March 1, 2011

    In fact, the Nazis were even the first to invent the term “passive smoking” (for secondhand smoke) and suggest that it might have harmful health effects.

    Now there’s a Godwin looking for a place to happen 🙂

  24. #24 Chris
    March 1, 2011

    Orac, I bow to your knowledge of WWII Germany! Thanks!

    Though, in the Are We Alone podcast I linked to, Dr. Jacker does mention that mouth and lip cancers were known to be associated with smoking in the 19th century, and some other cancer research in the 1930s.

  25. #25 Richard Nikoley
    March 18, 2011

    Yea, I finally gave up on Mercola quite a long time ago and unsubscribed from his newsletter.

    Regarding the Alzheimer’s, coconut oil and the doctor who claims to have improved her husband, you might be interested to know that Jimmy Moore, the Low-Carb guy (Livin la vida low-carb blog) has a podcast interview with her sometime back.

    Basically, she was trying to get her husband into one or more of several trials that were beginning for new drugs, unsuccessfully so because he kept failing the tests (some minimum requirements). Anyway, she had an idea. The patent applications for the drugs are public record, she a doctor and could conceivably understand them, so she went to work and says she kept seeing mention of medium chain triglycerides, i.e., MCT oil. According to her, they were aware of its effects but of course can’t profit and were trying to come up with drugs to accomplish the same thing or better.

    Coconut oil is about 90% saturated fat and I believe half of that is of the medium chain variety, so she began with that.

    Anyway, there’s some things for you to track down if you like.

  26. #26 L Stevens
    May 4, 2011

    With the discovery of so many harmful side effects of many pharmaceuticals (just look at the litany of symptoms and side effects they cause relative to the symptoms they treat on their TV commercials and print ads alone); I’m surprised to see such aggressive finger-pointing and damning of anything ‘alternative’. As a pre-teen in the 70’s/80’s, my mother was given a 6-month death sentence from her stage 4 cancer. She did the requisite chemo + radiation, followed orders, and we had never had a ‘holistic’ meal or ingredient in our household up to 1980. When she felt like she was on the brink of death, cancer slowly advancing and progressing week by week during the first 6 months of her ‘expiration date’ (as they jokingly referred to it); and her doctor’s advice didn’t seem to be slowing the disease’s spread, she decided it was accomplishment enough to have met her assigned expiration date and owed it to herself to at least try something different. -If only it meant to die pain-free instead of the agonizing treatments & after-effects she had been enduring. She then immersed herself in some non-traditional thinking and learning, and turned to a macrobiotic diet. Quite a leap for the rest of us in her nuclear family growing up in suburbia and exchanging our Roman Meal wheat bread sandwiches for funky sprouted grain breads, and Peter Pan PB for naturally-ground peanuts… well let’s say lunch-trading at school pretty much came to a halt for us kids. But one year later, all chemo and radiation long gone – -cancer in retreat, hair grown back thicker and darker than we had ever seen on her, and a myriad of other physically noticeable improvements, she went on to live 4.5 years – 4.5 years longer than her traditional doctor’s predictions and without any western medicine.

    In no way do I suggest abandoning all western practices in exchange for holistic or alternative choices; but I do believe people should be free to choose for themselves what feels right for them if they approach it intelligently and subject claims to their own evaluation of authenticity. I too would have been a scathing critic of a diet curing any terminal illness if I had not witnessed the transformation firsthand. She was not preachy about her choices and rarely even discussed it with anyone… she simply gently chose it/ avoided discussions around it unless probed/ and conscientiously made an active effort at educating herself of the risks and benefits of all of her decisions.

    As a result, I do not cast judgment so readily as you seem to – ironically with the evidence of so many mis-steps on the part of our industrialized healthcare industry/ pharmaceutical manufacturing, and all of the methods that allow for significant human error at the expense of/ and in the name of ‘health’. All methods should be scrutinized yet approached in an unbiased way, and a true practitioner acting in the interest of their patients’ wellness would seem to have the flexibility to accommodate this approach. Very few things are ‘all good’ or ‘all bad’, and unfortunately your preaching such makes you just as deserving of suspicion as the parties you condemn so aggressively.

    Be positive and unbiased in your perspective. You will influence more people if that is your goal.

  27. #27 JayK
    May 4, 2011

    @L Stevens: Nice anecdote. Cool Story, Bro.

    When you would like to actually leave willful ignorance behind and try to understand something about skepticism of alt-med then drop your “feel good” pretenses and ask a question.

  28. #28 Dotty L
    June 17, 2011

    It is truly amazing that you are still caught up in believing that somehow using ancient proven methods to successfully prevent, treat and heal many illnesses is somehow “alternative”… and that western medicine that has been around.. about 200 years is what we should all become lemmings and believe to be the gospel according to “Merck, Pfizer, and Co!”
    Thankfully there are alot more of people who are standing up to the indoctrination of the government and pharmaceutical companies, who, by the way, are the primary financial supporters of traditional Medical schools.
    Have you inquired how much nutrition is REQUIRED AND TAUGHT in our Western medical schools? It’s frightening and shockingly low! What a disgrace!

    Nutrition and food is not “alternative”. Pushing drugs for symptoms as western physicians are trained heavily to do.. and do very well, is true quackery!
    It’s people like you who perpetuate the sickness and obesity epidemic in our country.
    Hopefully more people will WAKE UP! to expose the REAL TRUTH! to bring TRUE WELLNESS and HEALTH to our world!
    Dotty, RN, BSN,

  29. Bravo, Dotty & L Stevens. I have a friend whose husband was entering the belligerant phase of alzheimer’s; she tried the medium chain trigl (unprocessed coconut oil)at 3T per day and he improved within 2 days. I know them. I have witnessed this. He is not cured; but the effect is profound. He is much more compliant and cooperative. We don’t know how long this will last, but apparently, just this one FOOD is extending his life.
    the hubris of some physicians is amazing. I didn’t see anyone mention Dr. Oz’s statements about how our attitudes and beliefs/faith can effect our physical bodies. The brain is very powerful and still a great mystery, so where’s the harm in trying to improve our diets; take our foods back closer to their original forms?
    Love the discussion, especially the wordsmiths’ contributions.

  30. #30 JayK
    June 23, 2011

    Oh look, the super duo Pharma-Shill Gambit and Anecdotal evidence have used their super powers to raise the almost dead. Good job, girls.

  31. #31 lilady
    June 23, 2011

    @ Dotty L. Come off your high horse Dotty L. Science-based medicine and science-based nursing do not push medication and are not in cahoots with big Pharma. Stop saying that doctors and nurses ignore good dietary principles and are responsible for the sickness and obesity “epidemic”. If you really are a registered nurse, BSc-Nursing, then you know that the curriculum at a university incorporates and emphasizes wellness for the patient. University also teaches you to understand how intensive science-based research is done and how to interpret research, the physiology of the human body and basic dietetics to maintain homeostasis…in addition to the hard sciences.

    @ Laura: I was about to ask you for any PubMed citations, but I see that Orac has already researched PubMed for you…perhaps you want to read Orac’s paragraph above about coconut oil.

    “…so where’s the harm in trying to improve our diets; take our foods back closer to their natural forms?” Why not check this blogs left column “Skepticism and critical thinking…last link “What’s the harm?”

    lilady, RN, BSc-Nursing

  32. #32 Liora
    July 7, 2011


    MCT is Medium Chain Triglycerides- the main part of COCONUT OIL

    And an older study I found by accident about using MCT’s to induce ketosis and it’s helping mitochondrial function and Alzheimer’s

  33. #33 Krebiozen
    July 7, 2011

    As I mentioned recently on another thread, medium chain triglycerides (MCTs) of the sort used in the study Liora cites (and other studies frequently referred to in this context) are not “the main part of coconut oil” and MCTs are certainly not “unprocessed coconut oil”. MCTs are a highly processed product made by the hydrolysis of coconut oil followed by the fractionation of the fatty acids.

    The study Liora cites used a MCT product in which, “>95% of the fatty acids are C8:0 with the remainder consisting of C6:0 and C10:0 fatty acids”.

    Coconut oil contains only 15% fatty acids that are C6,C8 or C10. Here’s a comparison of the fatty acids in the MCT used and in coconut oil (CO) just to make it clear:

    Caproic C6 MCT 2.5% CO 0.5%
    Caprylic C8 MCT 95% CO 7.8%
    Capric C10 MCT 2.5% CO 6.7%
    Lauric C12 MCT 0% CO 47.5%
    Myristic C14 MCT 0% CO 18.1%
    Palmitic C16 MCT 0% CO 8.8%

    Coconut oil will not have the same ketogenic effects as MCTs, as lauric acid, myristic and palmitic acids are not ketogenic except in starvation. To consume the same amount of caprylic acid used in the later part of the study you would have to consume 240 grams of coconut oil every day, which would be unwise, and very expensive.

  34. #34 Lisa Nothwang
    July 16, 2011

    I have been taking one table spoon of coconut oil about 4 x a week, finally my weight is going down instead of up.
    I understand that avocados have the same effect. I’m a believer that the science lab doesn’t understand nature fully.
    It’s up to the individual to find out what works. I recommend that people with a weight problem will try to use coconut oil to reduce their graving for chips.

  35. #35 Lisa Nothwang
    July 16, 2011

    I have been taking one table spoon of coconut oil about 4 x a week, finally my weight is going down instead of up.
    I understand that avocados have the same effect. I’m a believer that the science lab doesn’t understand nature fully.
    It’s up to the individual to find out what works. I recommend that people with a weight problem will try to use coconut oil to reduce their graving for chips.

  36. #36 Bronze Dog
    July 16, 2011

    It’s up to the individual to find out what works.

    So, how is the individual supposed to eliminate confounding factors, alternative causes, and self-deception?

    Knowing what I know about statistical analysist, I find the anecdotalist approach too disempowering. Anecdotalists get around that by pretending to be ignorant of their own humanity.

  37. #37 Scottynuke
    July 16, 2011

    Lisa, such an almost completely fact- and context-free anecdote will be given all the attention it deserves.


    OK, next subject…

  38. #38 Krebiozen
    July 16, 2011

    Congratulations on losing some weight Lisa, but I am skeptical about the role of coconut oil, I suspect you have been consuming fewer calories, or taking more exercise. Research studies suggest that some medium chain fatty acids may require more calories to metabolize than they provide, so in theory they could lead to weight loss. However, you would need to consume a minimum of 50% of your calories as C8 and C10 fatty acids to exploit this effect. As coconut oil consists of only 15% C8 and C10 fatty acids, you would have to consume a huge amount of coconut oil, and the longer chain fatty acids would counteract the effect anyway. Even consuming medium chain fatty acids alone is impractical as a means of losing weight.

  39. #39 Chris
    July 19, 2011

    I would suspect the hostility of the author is because he’s a failure too.

    He doesn’t have the answers and his organisation doesn’t have the answers. He believes in pure science and probably hasn’t personally experienced half of what OZ or Mercola is talking about.

    It’s so easy to attack someone else, and to say your way is the only way.

    But when you see with your eyes, and you look at the results. Modern medicine isn’t usually curing people from cancer.

    Washing your hands was at one time considered quackery. “microscopic organisms” Yea right.

    You people remind me of the Ignaz Semmelweis detractors.

    You want everything handed to you on a silver plate. Sure there’s stupid alternative ideas, but I think we can all name stupid ideas on both sides.

    I think most intelligent people would seek some kind of truth rather than, and something that kills people 98% of the time after five years. Anything is better than that isn’t it? Isn’t what the medical community is doing like shooting yourself in the leg, and calling that a cancer cure? There both about as effective and you’ll waste a lot of money in the process.

    Just like a bad ‘approved drug/procedure’, but you don’t have to choose stupid ideas when you try a natural cure.

  40. #40 Krebiozen
    July 19, 2011


    Modern medicine isn’t usually curing people from cancer.

    It’s very good at curing some cancers, and is getting better at the rest. Alternative medicine doesn’t ever cure cancer, at least I have never seen any good evidence that it does, and I have looked very hard.

    something that kills people 98% of the time after five years

    Where did you get that from? The latest stats from SEER show that for all invasive cancer sites combined, all ages and both sexes, 66.7% of people diagnosed in 2003 survived for at least 5 years. There is such a lot of misinformation about cancer being spread, no wonder some poor people make foolish choices about their treatment. You might want to reconsider being one of the people who spread dangerously inaccurate information.

    you don’t have to choose stupid ideas when you try a natural cure

    What “natural cure” is not a stupid idea, and how do you know? Is there a natural cure that can offer better than 90% 5 year survival for childhood acute lymphocytic leukemia, for example? Conventional treatment can.

  41. #41 Bronze Dog
    July 19, 2011

    Alties can’t let anyone know that science has been making slow but steady progress in curing various cancers because that would kill one of their favorite boogeymen. One less boogeyman is one less thing they can pop up to scare their consumers into expensive acts of desperation.

  42. #42 Militant Agnostic
    July 20, 2011

    Krebiozen @240

    What “natural cure” is not a stupid idea

    Come on now, shooting cofee up your ass to cure cancer is a perfectly sensible idea. 😉

    Bronze Dog @241

    science has been making slow but steady progress in curing various cancers

    Meanwhile alternative medicine announces a new breakthrough in every issue of the free* magazines you get at the health food store. So much more can be accomplished when one is not constrained by the need to provide evidence.

    *in my opinion these magazines are overpriced

  43. #43 Chris
    July 20, 2011

    Chris, everything you write will be assumed to come out of thin air unless you back it up with real references. Just mentioning “Mercola” is a quick trip to the recycle bin of medical idiocy.

    You are obviously new here, so do yourself a favor and actually read the blog archives. Hopefully the next time you will not post such an obvious “fail.”

    By the way, if you want something really “natural” you should try the castor bean pudding and foxglove tea just to see how silly you look. They are both poisons, one will get you in trouble with Homeland Security! Also be wary of some white carrots, they might be deadly hemlock, which if you have not noticed can kill you!

  44. #44 Kerry Coates
    July 23, 2011

    The reason that homeopathic cures are not given as much attention in scientific studies is because you cannot patent broccoli (or any other food or herb, etc.), so there is no money to be made if science proves them to be effective cures — only the grocery stores will benefit, you see. If there is no money to be made, then who pays for the science? It just isn’t done very often, now is it? The government will do a study here and there but the emphasis is always on the drugs — drugs are big money. The FDA cannot control foods for cure any more than they can monetize them. So there yea go. Pharma is big business and the FDA has set up RULES that homeopathic, “natural” and herbal websites and the like have to adhere to — It is the FDA that says that you HAVE to put on your website something to the effect, “This (product/advice) is not intended to cure, prevent or treat any illness”. We CANNOT use the words “cure”, “prevent” or “treat” anywhere on our websites except in the disclaimer or we get into SERIOUS legal trouble EVEN IF there is scientific studies to prove its effectiveness in those areas and EVEN IF we state the references to such studies — unless, of course, we are members of the “medical” community and carry a degree as such like a doctor, surgeon, etc. It’s a money thing…..

  45. #45 Chris
    July 23, 2011

    Kerry Coates:

    The reason that homeopathic cures are not given as much attention in scientific studies is because you cannot patent broccoli (or any other food or herb, etc.),

    You obviously do not know anything about homeopathy. There are specific rules in the FDA regulations about homeopathy, put in there by Royal Copeland, a homeopath and senator from New York.

    Now, to show you have some idea explain how much broccoli would be in a 30C broccoli homeopathic remedy, and why Avogadro’s Number might be important.

  46. #46 doug
    August 21, 2011

    I absolutely love it!!! You atheist, PC, greenies are really panicking. Hahahahaha. Don’t like the alternative health practitioners gaining traction, do you? First, your religion of global warming was debunked and now you’re losing the battle in medicine. Life is sweet.

  47. #47 Chris
    August 21, 2011

    Wow. Just wow.

    Doug, how does that little rant show in any way that the alternative methods promoted by Dr. Oz do anything?

  48. #48 Athena Vrentas
    September 1, 2011

    In my opinion, there has and always will be a place for Eastern medicine. I believe that both Eastern and Western medicine are needed for a patient to receive the best possible medical treatment. My husband has beef I’ll for three years, and we would be be lost without the use of both approaches.

    It pains me to see such negative comments written about a man (Dr.Oz) who utilizes both approaches and is willing to keep an open mind in order to inform and treat patients while utilizing all possible methods of medicine.

    In regards to the comments made about energy, let us not forget that this is not a concept that Dr. Oz is introducing. It is a fact that we are all made up of energy….that is what are cell are. So , let’s not blame Dr, Oz for something that was established several years ago.

    Thank you Dr. Oz, for showing us that we can , and should be able to think outside of the box. It is our responsibility, and most importantly it is our physician’s responsibility!

  49. #49 lilady
    September 1, 2011

    @ Athena: I think you meant to post this on Dr. Oz’s blog.

    There is no such thing as “eastern medicine” or “western medicine”. Medicine is the practice of providing good medical care by licensed physicians. If you chose to believe in alternative methods of “healing” based on “energy” or sugar pills or sticking needles into a toe to access an acupuncture meridian to cure physical disorders, it is your prerogative.

    Perhaps you missed the “Science Blogs” up top of this blog…you should re-read that.

  50. #50 Chris
    September 1, 2011

    Athena Vrentas:

    In my opinion, there has and always will be a place for Eastern medicine.

    Define “Eastern medicine.” Would it include the varicella vaccine, the DTaP vaccine, and statins that were all developed in Japan? Would it exclude homeopathy because it was developed in Germany?

    In other words, what does geography have to do with real medicine working?

  51. #51 Athena Vrentas
    September 1, 2011

    My physician is an MD who also has a degree in Integrative Medicine. So, I hope that clarifies my reference to Eastern and Western medicine, which yes, does exist. And, I do believe that physicians have a responsibility to their patients to provide the best advice and medical care.

    Dr. Oz utilizes all methods available. He is not an arrogant, narrow minded doctor who is unable to investigate all healing possibilities, which as I said before, have been around for thousands of years.

    I do believe in acupuncture. It healed me in several ways. I had severe atrophy in my elbows from a reaction to cortisone injections. The atrophy and pain are gone. This was done by my doctor.

    I will also take antibiotics if I need them. All I am saying is that we should not crucify Dr. Oz for suggesting alternative methods of treatment, and for encouraging proper nutrition.

  52. #52 Janet
    September 7, 2011

    got something against Allopathic Health care? I’m sure there’s a pill for that… 😉

  53. #53 Chris
    September 7, 2011

    Athena Vrentas, no your point does not clarify how medicine is defined by geography. Because even “integrative” is a nonsense term when applied to medicine.

    You should not “believe” in something, you need to show it works with real evidence. At the present there evidence that poking with toothpicks works just as well as needles.

    Janet, “allopathic” is what? According to Hahnemann it is anything that is not homeopathy (which is incredibly silly), so it would include Ms. Vrenta’s much vaulted acupuncture, Ayurveda, and real medicine.

    Janet, there is only one kind of medicine. The kind that has been proven to work. That includes antibiotics, good nutrition, exercise, appendectomies, and on and on.

    There is no such thing as “Eastern” or “Western” medicine, just as there is no such thing as “allopathy.”

  54. #54 Mephistopheles O'Brien
    September 7, 2011


    Per Wikipedia,

    Allopathic medicine refers to the practice of conventional medicine that uses pharmacologically active agents or physical interventions to treat or suppress symptoms or pathophysiologic processes of diseases or conditions. It was coined by Samuel Hahnemann (1755–1843), noted homeopath, in 1810. Although “allopathic medicine” was rejected as a term by mainstream physicians, it was adopted by alternative medicine advocates to refer pejoratively to conventional medicine.

  55. #55 Sarah
    September 7, 2011

    I respect we all have opinions… It’s sad to see the denial of people so out of touch with nature. I am not a hippy, nor do I burn sage (well maybe once) but as a practical practitioner of wellness & nutrition I feel a need to clarify that that there is nothing magical or mystical about “alternative medicine”. It’s rather common sense. Pharmaceutical approach has more deaths, side affects, and disturbing facts than anything holistic, like an herb or vitamin. Whom ever wrote this article has an annoying lack of education and I’d guess you are taking something for your high blood pressure?

  56. #56 Gray Falcon
    September 7, 2011

    Tell me, are grizzly bears natural? Are tornadoes natural? Don’t try to give us the Disney version of nature, nature is not nice.

  57. #57 Chris
    September 7, 2011

    Sarah, nutrition is not “alternative medicine.” Please provide actual evidence for this statement:

    Pharmaceutical approach has more deaths, side affects, and disturbing facts than anything holistic, like an herb or vitamin.

    I would question your education if you think vitamins are not part of real medicine, or that herbs cannot cause harm. And that “holistic” has any real meaning.

  58. #58 Mephistopheles O'Brien
    September 7, 2011

    Unfortunately, “alternative medicine” is a wide ranging field that claims to include stuff that actually works (like good nutrition based on proven results), stuff that sort of works (like good nutrition with exaggerated and unproven claims), stuff that doesn’t work (like vitamin C for the flu), and stuff that doesn’t work and could only work if there were magic or something fundamentally wrong in our knowledge of chemistry, physics, and biology (reiki, homeopathy, and acupuncture, say).
    If you promote things that are well proven, good for you.

  59. #59 Chris
    September 7, 2011

    Sarah, I have a kid with hypertrophic cardiomyopathy with obstruction. Yes, he is taking beta-blockers. Except because he was not compliant and was skipping doses he got a trip in an ambulance to the emergency department. We have all sorts of follow-up appointments lined (most of my morning has been spent dealing with them).

    So Sarah, what is your sure fire cure for his genetic condition that involved abnormal growth of his heart muscle that damaged his mitral valve due to increased pressure across it, and the “obstruction” part means that the extra exertion can cause the muscle to actually block blood flow causing “sudden death”?

    Show us exactly how educated you are by giving us a way to prevent this genetic condition that occurs in about one in a thousand people, and how to deal with it.

    By the way, the real doctors told him to eat properly (cut down on caffeine, watch calories, increase veggies), exercise and take the meds regularly. Now what is your learned advice?

  60. #60 Heliantus
    September 7, 2011

    Pharmaceutical approach has more deaths, side affects, and disturbing facts than anything holistic

    For one, “more” is meaningless because a lot more people are using pharmaceuticals compared to whatever holistic. That we need is a ratio of the number of bad effects/number of prescriptions.
    Two, “more” is meaningless if only one side does any effort at recording the bad effects. Is there any official place in charge of recording holistic screw-ups?
    (including cases like an allopathic herbal preparation interfering with the anesthetic during a surgical operation – which will be unfairly recorded as iatrogen)
    Three, I will call this the reverse of the “if you don’t want to break it, don’t touch it” law. If a modality has no bad effect, it may well be because it has no effect at all.

  61. #61 Chris
    September 8, 2011

    Yoo hoo! Sarah, where are you? You seemed to have an answer to everything and quipped that the author of this blog must be taking blood pressure medication.

    Well, I presented to you a condition that is commonly treated with beta-blockers. I assumed you had a better solution. What herbs? Come on, you made a statement, you better back it up… show us you know your stuff.

    Do you need to spend some more time looking up hypertrophic cardiomyopathy with obstruction? Because, if you are going to pretend to be a medical practitioner, you should already know about this and other heart conditions.

  62. #62 LJL
    September 12, 2011

    This is who Dr OZ believes in::CRAZY::Also Dr OZ is a muslem..Swedenborg believed that God created humankind to exist simultaneously in the physical world and in the spiritual world, which belongs to the inner domain. It has its own memory, which is what survives after death. Swedenborg’s hell has no Satan; heaven is populated by the spirits of the dead that carry on lives and habits much the same as they did on earth. Jesus’ crucifixion did not atone for the sins of humankind; we make our own heaven and hell. Rejecting traditional doctrines of the Trinity and Atonement, Swedenborg believed that the Judgment had occurred in 1757, along with Christ’s second coming as a triumph over rebellious spirits. He believed that there is a correspondence between natural and spiritual levels; each person lives in both realms at once. Eternal life is an inner condition beginning with earthly life; gradual redemption occurs through personal regulation of spiritual states. Practical love is a necessity in every relationship.

  63. #63 Chris
    September 12, 2011


    Dr OZ is a muslem.

    So what?

    And the rest of the rant has nothing to do with the subject.

  64. #64 lilady
    September 12, 2011

    “Also Dr OZ is a muslem..” Is that similar to being a muslim?

    I don’t recall that anyone except LJL discussing Swedenborg on this blog about Dr. Oz…did I miss something?

  65. #65 Stacey
    October 5, 2011

    Eh…I don’t really buy what you say. Frankly, Mercola is more convincing than you are. Your writing skills are questionable and you sound like you’re being paid by someone. Thumbs down to you. I’m not a Dr. Oz fan — or even Mercola for that matter — but you simply sound like a grumpy conspiracy theorist. Oh the shame! Not to get an H1N1 vaccine! LOL

  66. #66 novalox
    October 5, 2011


    It took you how long to come up with that fact-free rant, necromancer?

  67. #67 Steve
    October 10, 2011

    This article is written by someone who thinks evidence has to be compartmentalized with his brand as one of the compartments and the only one that should be listened to. His brand chooses to study what it wants and then claims there are no studies to prove other brands…what about other countries…if their people cure some health problem for centuries is it really necessary to have a study completed to even open your mind to the possibility..I dont know that much about DR. Oz but he seems to exhibit curiosity and a open mind and isnt afraid to confront the machine…more power to him…dont worry, you will come around eventually…you will just be the last to know

  68. #68 Beamup
    October 10, 2011

    Steve’s entire post can be understood with this single sentence:

    if their people cure some health problem for centuries is it really necessary to have a study completed to even open your mind to the possibility

    Steve clearly believes the answer is “no.” But in reality, the answer is “yes” because without such study, there is no way to know that said people DID actually cure said health problem.

    Basically the assumption is being made that good evidence exists, but nobody ever collected good evidence… which is of course quite contradictory.

  69. #69 Lawrence
    October 10, 2011

    Really necro-Steve? You mean the tens of thousands of current medical studies don’t represent curiosity & seeking new knowledge?

  70. #70 Mephistopheles O'Brien
    October 10, 2011

    If other countries really have cured some health problems for centuries using (unspecified) techniques then surely there would be statistics showing that these (unspecified) techniques are effective.
    Do you have them on you, by chance?

  71. #71 Rissa Cloud
    November 24, 2011

    I am not sure the author of this blog likes himself? Put your belief in Litmus Paper. Your Ph levels is all you need! The negativity within these pages is a certain attitude for illness. ‘Engine #2’ and ‘Forks Over Knives’ dvds with REAL people’s lives 2010 is a lot more valid and important than what was written on top of the page. My suggestion that I follow myself is- “Get Real Fast”. Research your own self health like the folks in these DVDS… see ‘The Greater Good’ about real people trying to reclaim their health. Unfortunately the statistics about health in our USA are very sad & deplorable… such as osteoporosis.Ask any calf, milk is for cows. Beginning basics are that human mothers are equipped to nurse their babies providing antibodies… then try fresh spring water. Good Luck all with broadening your horizons and accepting natural vital energy.

  72. #72 B. Ross
    December 13, 2011

    A few notes:

    Although anecdotal to be sure, I had been trying to raise my HDL for years and came across an article that recommended using/consuming olive and coconut oils and whole fat dairy. I’d been consuming non-fat, low-fat for years believing they were healthier than whole fat. Lo and behold, I not only raised my HDL 25%, I lost weight and lowered my triglycerides. No drugs involved.

    For anyone who thinks physicians don’t push drugs, my former doctor kept pushing osteoporosis drugs for my “osteopenia”, which I refused to take given the horrific side-effects of those drugs. In the past three years, I have been physically assaulted, hit by a motorcycle, the impact of which catapulted me across the street, and fallen many times while snow-skiing. No bones broken. I’m 66 years old and in very good health. I eat well, exercise and take supplements.

    On the connection between drug companies and doctors, several years ago drug companies lobbied doctors to the point where the blood pressure levels for pre-hypertension were lowered so that the pool of potential drug customers increased by millions, which of course, has handsomely increased the drug companies’ bottom lines.

    Yes, there are drugs that are beneficial and necessary, but there are simple lifestyle changes that could eliminate the need for some drugs: no junk food or processed foods, cutting down on sugar (and yes, HFCS is worse than other sugars), eating whole foods, cooking/eating at home, keeping weight down, exercising moderately, limiting alcohol, no smoking, and taking supplements, if needed.

    The poster who commented on the benefits of raw milk is correct. Luckily, I live in a state where raw milk can be sold legally to the public. The ultra-pasteurized white fluid that is called milk is nothing like real milk. All of the nutrients have been boiled away through the pasteurization process. Save your money, it has no health benefits.

  73. #73 kristopher smith
    December 24, 2011

    “Dr. Oz” was on Oprah’s talk show (a Protege?)several times before landing his own show (with Oprah’s help?). HE is part of the New Age Movement in America and the world, although many NA supporters will not openly admit it. Oprah and her “big money” is backing Obama’s second term as U.S.President. A comment on a political article follows:
    Obama WILL WIN PRESIDENCY! NEW World Order (TV’s OWN) Oprah Winfrey, High Priestess of the New Age Movement (read the website articles on this), and her guru, satanist Tolle, will SEE TO IT! Obama & Michelle are going to CHANGE THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT TODAY! “CHANGES” such as these are predicted in the Christian Bible! Oprah & Tolle are Obama’s MEDIA PUBLIC RELATIONS TEAM & are getting the messages OUT TO THE MASSES that there is NOT ONE GOD – MONOTHEISM – AS TAUGHT TO THEM BY THE JUDEO-CHRISTIAN RELIGION ! EACH INDIVIDUAL HAS GOD IN HIMSELF! MILLIONS OF FANS believe Oprah and are buying up these “messages” of the Oprah-spiritualism! Her “OWN” network is non-Christian, yet she has been called the Billy Graham of this age. With her so-called “spiritualism” she speaks of the Christian Bible’s positives while denouncing its negatives! Also “preaching” that people
    should not believe “redemption” is through Jesus who died on the cross for people’s sins! The “BIG THREE”, not counting Michelle (who hates America), will UNITE THE WORLD INTO A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT, ONE MONEY SYSTEM, ONE RELIGION – & IT WILL BE THE BEGINNING OF THE END FOR JUDEO-CHRISTIANITY! “CHANGES” that are being pursued by these three – four when including Michele Obama – are in
    preparation for the anti-christ through the NEW AGE MOVEMENT that is now seen everywhere, if people would just “see” it! Michele has said that they would lie, cheat, steal, or whatever it takes to get “CHANGES” made to the American government, and the world. And, their PR Oprah with her adviser Tolle, are supporting and backing the Obamas! So, it is a lost cause Republican party – “BIGGER MONEY” than yours is working to put Obama back in as President! (Read websites on Oprah as High Priestess and her association with the Obamas) The High Priestess, the BIG AND POWERFUL MONEYBAGS Oprah, accompanied by satanist Tolle, have spoken! AND ARE “MANIPULATING”it so that IT WILL HAPPEN!

  74. #74 lilady
    December 24, 2011

    @ kristopher smith: Gee…you didn’t cite any of your statements…but I located the website where you drew this from:

    “HE is part of the New Age Movement in America and the world, although many NA supporters will not openly admit it. Oprah and her “big money” is backing Obama’s second term as U.S.President.” (www.wayoflife.org)

    Do you always check into the Way Of Life Ministries for directions on how to cast your ballot? Do you believe all that drivel that is posted on this ultra, ultra, beyond-far-to-the-right, conspiracy-masquerading-as-religion website?

    Try to tear yourself away from these conspiracists and look up David and Charles Koch (“The Koch Brother”), who are wealthy industrialists ($ 50 Billion combined worth) and have been funding right-wing organizations for years…buying themselves politicians. A good article for you to read is:

    “Koch Brothers: secretive billionaires to launch vast databases with 2012 in mind” (The Guardian, November 7, 2011)

    BTW, this liberal Christian is voting for Barack Obama.

  75. #75 Krebiozen
    December 24, 2011

    Damn, there’s froth and spittle all over the inside of my monitor…

  76. hello,
    As I have read the blog from Dr. Oz, I was glad and impressed how he embraced the dark sides of the blog. Actually, I was being educated with it.

  77. #77 victoria.warrior
    January 5, 2012

    “You have to understand Neo, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged, and many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.” ~ Morpheus

  78. #78 Jessica
    January 8, 2012

    Thank-you for letting me know! I will be wary of Dr. Oz.

  79. #79 Chrystal Wilson
    January 21, 2012

    RE:Coconut Oil
    I’m sifting through the research available as well, with yet to find a long-term study with a significant sample size to be conclusive:

  80. #80 Roseux
    January 21, 2012

    You’re clinically retarded if you think “Alternative Medicine” (YOU people created that term, everyone else in the world just considers herbs/other flora to be medicinal inherently) doesn’t work.

    Coconut oil isn’t just some inert cooking oil. It’s the highest natural source of MCTs, which are essential for brain function. It doesn’t take a huge leap of faith to see how this could benefit alzheimers. Coincidentally, a ketogenic diet (MCTs release ketones during digestion) has been a fool proof way of treating epilepsy.

  81. #81 Chris
    January 21, 2012


    You’re clinically retarded if you think “Alternative Medicine” (YOU people created that term, everyone else in the world just considers herbs/other flora to be medicinal inherently) doesn’t work.

    Please educate us on a more recent thread with some good peer reviewed articles to support your statements.

    We need more than a leap of faith, we need evidence.

  82. #82 lilady
    January 21, 2012

    @ Roseux: Let’s get something straight here from the get-go…your expression to describe developmentally disabled people is not too popular on this site. Many of the posters here have developmentally disabled family members and they have fought to educate people about the use of that word.

    “Coincidentally, a ketogenic diet (MCTs release ketones during digestion) has been a fool proof way of treating epilepsy.”

    Wrong! Ketogenic diets were the first type of medical treatment…not “alternative treatment” to control seizures about 100 years ago…before the licensing of phenobarbital and then phenytoin (Dilantin) more that 70 years ago.

    Since the licensing of these anticonvulsants, many medications have been licensed for the control of seizures. Many children and adults do achieve seizure control with these various medications/combination of medication.

    Ketogenic diets are only prescribed for refractory seizures and are prescribed and monitored by neurologists and Registered Dieticians…not a ‘self-styled nutritionist’. There are varying degrees of success with this diet especially with refractory Lennox-Gestaut seizures. For certain other seizure types caused by hereditary metabolic disorders, the ketogenic diet for seizure control is contraindicated.

    Get you facts straight before you come posting here with your factoids.

  83. #83 lilady
    January 21, 2012

    @ Roseux: Please stick around…I have a comment stuck in moderation, directed at your comment.

  84. #84 Mik Pazula
    February 12, 2012

    Not an Oz fan. However, the medical profession has a big PR problem. I realize what I am about to type is anecdotal, but more than once I have met a person entering a hospice care program who is taking more than 10 different meds daily. The first thing a good hospice care provider will do is wean them off any number of meds. Instead of suffering, they often improve. Someone is going to write and say that some improve and an equal number do not. But the first rule is do no harm. Doctors do push pills. A thirty five year old needs to try many other things before being prescribed statins. An 85 year old hospice patient does not need to take them either, regardless of the results of his or her lipid panel. How does a person wind up taking 15 different medicines? What could a doctor hope to accomplish by adding yet another pill to the mix? But they do, and to toss away this comment by saying that only a bad doctor would do that does not solve anything.

  85. #85 lilady
    February 12, 2012

    @ Mik Pazula: I think your definition of “improvement” while in hospice care, is different from mine.

    Patients and their families, sometimes refuse in-patient or at-home “hospice care”, because they still cling to the hope that their illness or degenerative disorder is not terminal.

    Once they “accept” that they are in the end stages of their lives, they will seek out hospice care. It has been my experience that they express regret because they didn’t seek the comfort and palliative care offered by hospice, sooner.

    “A thirty five year old needs to try many other things before being prescribed statins.”

    Here is a link to the actual diagnostic criteria for familial hypercholesterolemia and the life style changes that are recommended for patients who have this genetic condition…before statins are prescribed:


  86. #86 arther
    February 16, 2012

    You seem to be too biased against certain individual and/or alternative medicine. I have followed Dr Mercola for quite some time, all I can say that he may not be always right but his intentions are mostly right.
    Open up your eyes to the bitter fact – “Western medical practice is the biggest killer of 20th and 21st century.” Believe it or not, but it is sadly true!! Dig it more on Google, you have got all the tools!
    Apart from doing selling herbal products, people like dr mercola are warning people over and over again about this evil.

  87. #87 Beamup
    February 16, 2012

    [citation needed]

  88. #88 Chris
    February 16, 2012

    And proof that this article was about Mercola and not Dr. Mehmet Oz.

    (Why is it that Mercola apologists have so much trouble with basic English grammar? Did he even spell his own name correctly?)

  89. #89 Fred
    February 21, 2012

    Dr. Mercola is on the Dr. Oz show today. They are saying that cancer can be cured with eggplant. I haven’t heard of that before.

  90. #90 Fred
    February 21, 2012

    I stand corrected. It is all over the Internet – Eggplant cures cancer.


  91. #91 Beamup
    February 21, 2012

    The nasty cynical part of me suspects that you haven’t heard of it before because it’s made up and false.

  92. #92 Harry
    February 29, 2012

    Whether or not coconut oil works is a matter for investigation. It’s certainly harmless if it doesn’t. But lost in the coconut oil claims are the claims that have more science behind them – i.e., that in Altzheimer’s patients, insulin resistance contributes to the failure of brain cells to utilize their primary fuel – glucose. Failure to utilize glucose can result in brain cell death or diminished brain cell function. The alternate fuel – ketones – result from a very low carbohydrate diet. The claim here is that coconut oil contains enough ketones to fuel the brain. Accordingly, coconut oil is not a “cure”, but rather an alternative fuel. Of course, cutting out sugars and most carbohydrates – a la Atkins – can result in a ketonic fuel state and do the same thing. Sugars are increasingly being viewed as long-term toxins – contributing to cancers and other diseases. So this is not really “alternative”; rather it is dietary – just as diet can affect heart disease, it can affect brain disease. Of course it needs more study, but increases in Altzheimer’s and increases in obesity (the latter increasingly seen to be caused by insulin resistance resulting from too many carbs) may not be mere coincidence or due to better diagnoses. All in all, it seems a fairly harmless experiment to try with an Altzheimer’s patient – to see if diet changes can alter the symptoms. More rational than the Raiki practitioners in the operating theater.

  93. #93 Joe
    March 18, 2012

    I couldn’t even finish reading this article because of how utterly disgusted I was. Congrats, you have an opinion! You’re simply proof of how highly brainwashed most people in society really are. The Pharmaceutical industry does not have health in mind, just profit. And if you can’t see through the lies, deception, and bullshit than you are too far gone. Our “Medicine” doesn’t cure a goddamn thing it only suppresses symptoms while causing other health related issues do to side effects. It’s blatantly obvious that clean organic food and mostly fruits and veggies is the answer to all cures along with other forms of de-stressing activities. Yoga, meditation, reiki, ect.. You’re simply a hater towards Mercola, Oz, Chopra because their views are different than yours based on how you were raised. It’s just psychology… What’ more alarming is you promoting hatred and going on the internet to spew your hatred while trying to gain an army of supporters to help make you feel good about yourself. You’re not helping anyone and are simply wasting time to what’s really important and that’s all of humanity coming together as one. But go ahead spew your hatred and see how far it takes you. Your ascension is imminent and the truth of your world “leaders” will soon be proven to be lying manipulating bastard criminals. Keep popping your pills and telling your children to do the same while they turn into zombie consumers and the religious leaders, government, politicians, bankers, and corporations pillage your money while you fight against the few people that feel alternative medicine is simply safer and more effective than mainstream medicine. You’re fighting the wrong people!!! Capitalism is ruthless and is the cause of our fiat money system, GMO foods, Pharmaceutical industries with NO cures, wars, famine, you name it… Get your head of your ass and stop listening to what other people are saying. Leaders stand alone. All the people you hate are leaders and you’re simply a zombie consumer with an opinion… SAD!!!!!!!

  94. #94 Mephistopheles O'Brien
    March 18, 2012

    1. If leaders really stand alone, can they be said to be leading?
    2. Do you have any evidence that “Our “Medicine” doesn’t cure a goddamn thing it only suppresses symptoms while causing other health related issues do to side effects.”
    3. “Your ascension is imminent…” Ascension to what?
    4. ” It’s blatantly obvious that clean organic food and mostly fruits and veggies is the answer to all cures along with other forms of de-stressing activities. Yoga, meditation, reiki, ect..” Please provide links to the research that backs this.

  95. #95 Chris
    March 18, 2012


    It’s blatantly obvious that clean organic food and mostly fruits and veggies is the answer to all cures along with other forms of de-stressing activities. Yoga, meditation, reiki, ect..

    I recently finished Breakthrough: Elizabeth Hughes, the Discovery of Insulin, and the Making of a Medical Miracle by Thea Cooper and Arthur Ainsberg. It is about juvenile diabetes (type 1) in the early part of the twentieth century.

    At that time the only way to treat type 1 diabetes was through diet, often only about five hundred Calories. It somewhat worked, yet many of the children died from starvation or by actually going into a diabetic coma after succumbing to hunger by eating. Then some scientists in Canada found created a way to get insulin from animal pancreases. Their work earned them the first Nobel Prize in Medicine for Canada in 1923.

    Now, joe, which do you think is a better way to treat type 1 diabetes: diet or insulin?

  96. #96 Tracy Stafford
    April 20, 2012

    Typically the allopathic health profession altruistically and self righteously places its manipulated double blind outcomes as the only truth to condition the herd ( your terminology) to, I have worked as a registered nurse Division one in allopathic health for 35 years, (as well as studying natural therapies),what i have learnt from this is protect yourself from the allopathic medical profession and stay away unless absolutely essential as they are dangerous….take a look at the history of allopathic medicine they have always been ignorant with a vested interst in making money from the herd.
    People have the right to make there own autonomous decision about whether they use medicines chemicals or natural alternatives, you are selective about the information you draw upon( true to the advocates for allopathic medicine) to ensure your control and incomes, and who gave your views superior precidence, oh, you of course how silly of me

  97. #97 Chris
    April 20, 2012

    Tracy Stafford, what kind of dressing do you want on your word salad.

  98. #98 Habib
    April 20, 2012

    Hi, though i think not all what they say about alternative medicine (like treating cancer or other lethal diseases) is necessarily true / scientifically proven, you have to give them credit for many issues like: GMO, Aspartame, high sugar meals, Psychotropic drugs, flourides. Aren’t these actually harming us silently?? Just look at the average population: 1) falling sick more often than their parents, 2) getting diseases such as diabitis and high bolld pressure in their 30s, 3) popping mind altering pills that’s definately doing more harm than good, 4) obesity causing a whole lot of other problems etc.

    I can share from my experience over the last 2.5 years that i have tried to follow some of these advices. I have lost weight and haven’t had any health problems (fever, cold etc ). I managed to stay in excellent health and i can vouch that the lifestyle change has helped me. Again, i am not advocating anyone’s view and only sharing from my experience. Neither am i saying you should spend tons of money on all health supplements.

    Hope this helps.


  99. #99 Kelly M Bray
    April 20, 2012

    What’s wrong with GMO’s Habib? I have yet to hear a cogent argument against them. Please feel free to be the first.

  100. #100 Militant Agnostic
    April 20, 2012

    Kelly M Bray
    I heard that GMOs raise your bold pressure and fracture your grammar.

  101. #101 Habib
    April 21, 2012

    On GMOs, my view is that as it is an altered form of food, it’s better avoided if you have other options. Most of the experiments that tried to tamper with natural selection has had adverse outcomes (e.g. cloning). Again, this is my view based on what i’ve read. You have all rights to have other views my friend!

  102. #102 Kelly M Bray
    April 21, 2012

    Why is it better avoided. Is rice with an enriched beta-Carotene content inherently evil? If it had been made by cross breeding would that make it morally acceptable. How many people should suffer until years of crossbreeding are successful?

    From Wikipedia…
    Vitamin A deficiency is estimated to affect approximately one third of children under the age of five around the world. It is estimated to claim the lives of 670,000 children under five annually. Approximately 250,000–500,000 children in developing countries become blind each year owing to vitamin A deficiency, with the highest prevalence in Southeast Asia and Africa.

    How many blind children should we tolerate until we make a politically correct crop?

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