Yesterday was a busy day for a number of reasons. I thought of skipping it, but I couldn’t resist taking notice of one particularly hilarious bit that I found on what is perhaps the wretchedest of all the wretched hives of scum and quackery on the Internet, NaturalNews.com. There, yesterday, on a very special day for me, I saw this headline by Mike Adams: Facebook blocks all Natural News article posts to 2.2M fans after site posts White House petition citing immunization dangers:

In the latest outrageous example of total censorship against the independent media, Facebook has blocked nearly 100 percent of the sharing of articles from Natural News. It all began when a Natural News story linked to this White House petition demanding a moratorium on childhood immunizations for five years while toxicology experts study the skyrocketing statistics of autism, adverse events and deaths following vaccinations.

Immediately after the story was posted on the Natural News Facebook account — which has over 2.2 million followers — Facebook manually deleted the post and banned nearly all sharing of ALL posts from Natural News. The White House petition asks for the repeal the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act — the act 0f Congress that granted vaccine companies absolute legal immunity from all the damage and deaths caused by vaccines across America. This law would be equivalent to granting Big Tobacco total immunity from tobacco lawsuits or granting Monsanto legal immunity from glyphosate cancer lawsuits.

(Note that Mikey has been known to play with redirects, and, clicking on that link, you might find yourself directed to a page about the “Health Ranger’s scientific accomplishments.” If that happens, try this Archive.org link instead.)

Besides Mikey’s childish messing with redirects, I laughed out loud at Mikey’s histrionics, but I wondered what the heck he was talking about. Before I delved into his claims any deeper, I wandered over to the NaturalNews.com Facebook page and, as a test, tried to share some articles to my own FB page. I had no problem sharing whatever I liked from the page, after which I deleted the shared articles. I also couldn’t help but notice that there is now a Natural News app, which made me half tempted to download it to see what sort of crap Mikey serves up to mobile devices. I thought better of it, of course. Who knows what sort of privacy-invading “features” Mikey’s added to his app?

I do remember reading about a month ago that Facebook was going to try to do more to prevent the spread of fake news on its platform by deprioritizing clickbait links and fake news on users’ newsfeeds. Last November, Mark Zuckerberg himself had promised to do more about the spread of fake news on Facebook. Then three week ago, I saw an article about how Facebook starting to disable the ability of all Pages to edit the previews of the links they post in the Page composer or API, with an exemption for some original publishers. I wonder if it is this change that is what tripped up Mikey somehow.

Aside from that, obviously, there must have been complaints about his antivaccine post regarding Kent Heckenlively’s hilarious yet horrifying “petition” to the White House for a five year moratorium on childhood vaccination. I both mocked and expressed my horror at the concept about four weeks ago, when I first noticed it, but I notice that the date on the petition is now August 2, which means that Heckenlively posted a new petition. Why would he do that? Well, the date on the old petition was July 3, and petitioners at WhiteHouse.gov have 30 days to reach 100,000 signatures. August 2 is exactly 30 days after July 3, which means that as soon as Heckenlively’s old petition failed (which it did, with only 7,328 signatures in 30 days), he posted the same petition again. I guess that’s how he’s going to roll. Every 30 days he’ll post the same petition again after the old one fails. I suppose the attention from Natural News got him some attention with 1,503 signatures in 6 days (as I write this), but that’s nowhere near the pace Heckenlively needs to hit 100,000 signatures in 30 days. In fact, its roughly the same pace as the last version of this petition, and I predict he’ll wind up with roughly the same number of signatures as last time.

None of this stops the delusional Mr. Heckenlively from crowing about his new petition:

Yes, that’s the name of the new White House petition. Do you like it? I LOVE it.

Why? I love it because it’s provocative. I love it because it gets people’s attention. I love it because it will probably drive the trolls, people like Orc, Dumb Dorritt, and Dr. Proffit absolutely bananas. I’m hoping this gets the attention of people like Emily Willingham of Forbes magazine and she writes one of her odious articles attacking it.

Because then this idea starts winning. It will have become CONTAGIOUS, spreading like a MIND VIRUS through the consciousness of the public.

I love it because it changes people’s perception of what is possible, and if I can get the trolls angry enough, they will do the job of spreading this wonderful idea. Yes, my enemies are part of this plan because they are stupid and hateful enough not to realize that they will help this succeed.

Poor delusional Kent. He really seems to think that just adding Donald Trump’s name to the petition and adding a bit about “pharma control” will make the difference! As for his petition driving “Orc” absolutely bananas (there he goes again with the Tolkien fantasy of him as Aragorn fighting the Dark Lord Sauron and his Orcs, removing the “a” from my ‘nym to do it), well, yes, it does sort of—bananas with gut-busting, doubled over, having-difficulty-catching-my-breath laughter at Kent. I almost thought of not writing about Kent’s petition after finding his post over at the odious Bolen Report after seeing Mikey’s little screed, because I’m always reluctant to give an antivaxer like Heckenlively what he wants. However, I changed my mind for two reasons. First, I don’t let cranks control what I write, even in the reverse psychology sort of manner of not writing about something they clearly want me to draw attention to. Second, this blog rarely gets over 10,000 visitors a day, and the vast majority of them will be laughing along with me at Kent. It’s not as though anything I right is likely to have the reach to push Heckenlively’s petition from 1,500 signatures to 100,000. So I write what I want when I want.

Besides, it’s hard not to fall into one of those doubled over, trying-to-catch-my-breath fits of laughter when I read passages like this from Kent:

I won’t be surprised if in a week or two somebody writes that “Trump wants a five year moratorium on childhood vaccines!” Will I correct the record at that point? Maybe. Maybe not.

See how desperate and pathetic he is. He openly admits that he’s trying to trick someone into writing fake news about Trump supporting his insane plan. He’s also gone from likening himself to Aragorn, Son of Arathorn, and the one true heir of Isildur to the throne of Gondor in J.R.R. Tolkien’s The Lord of the Rings, to likening himself to—get this!—General George S. Patton, Jr. (a.k.a. “Old Blood and Guts”), the World War II general known for his audaciousness and his “always be on the attack” philosophy:

I think it’s like Patton in World War II, seizing towns in Sicily ahead of the projected advance, then when he informs headquarters they tell him he wasn’t supposed to go into that town yet.

“What should I do? Give it back to the Germans?” Patton replied.

So let people think that this wasn’t my idea, or the idea of some truly brilliant lawyers, but was instead Trump’s idea, and the trolls will work themselves into a frenzy and only hasten the day of their own destruction.

Sigh. So much pathetic fantasizing in such a short passage of prose. It can only be followed by what I like to refer to as the fantasy of ultimate vindication:

Now, some people have made comments along the lines of, “You failed because your White House petition only got a little more than 7,000 signatures in the 30 day period.”

A little perspective is in order…

My first White House petition was for Suramin as a treatment for autism. Personally, I think that is the breakthrough treatment for autism and will END the epidemic. That White House Petition got about 700 signatures. Petition #2 got more than 7,000 signatures.

Want to take any wagers on the final number for Petition #3? Petition #4? Petition #5?

I’ll give you my prediction. Each of them will get maybe 7,000 to 10,000 signatures. Kent Heckenlively has almost certainly hit (or come very close) to his ceiling.

Which brings us back to Mikey. I once said of antivaccine fantasies, “You want it darker” (a nod to Leonard Cohen’s last album before his death). Well, Mikey does indeed want it darker, a lot darker:

Natural News has published numerous stories critical of Mark Zuckerberg and left-wing cult fanaticism, refusing to be silenced by the tolerati of the delusional Left which has devolved into a culture of internet bullies and delusional sh#theads. The internet has truly entered a phase where stating any true facts about vaccines or transgenderism gets you immediately banned by left-wing internet gatekeepers like Google, Facebook, YouTube and Twitter.

Merely stating obvious, irrefutable facts — such as “men cannot give birth to children” — gets you censored and labeled a “hate speech” proponent. Pointing out real scientific data — such as the fact that vaccines contain over 50,000 ppb of mercury, a toxic heavy metal — gets you labeled a “conspiracy” website.

That’s why it’s time to regulate Google, Facebook and Twitter as public utilities. Their abuse of power to silence dissenting views has become a danger to the liberty of all Americans.

Why this technocracy dictatorship ends in civil war

We have now truly reached the point of runaway left-wing insanity combined with totalitarian censorship. In essence, the Left-wing internet gatekeepers have become a technocracy dictatorship that demands unwavering obedience to the insanity of the left-wing SJW cult (and its statist tyranny).

He then provides a link to this video:

In the video, Adams claims that everything in the mainstream media is “fake news” and everything in the “independent media” (e.g., him) has science, the facts, and The Truth on its side, that President Obama “betrayed” America, and that Hillary Clinton had anyone who got close to the truth “killed.” And, yes, civil war is coming, according to Mike Adams. I had to give up listening after about three or four minutes.

Clearly, Kent Heckenlively and Mike Adams belong together. Maybe next Mr. Heckenlively will again generously offer me a chance at “unconditional surrender.”

ADDENDUM 8/8/2017, 2:45 PM: Holy moly! If only I had waited a while to write this. I might have had the amusement of discussing in depth Kent Heckenlively’s followup post, Kent Heckenlively – World’s #1 Anti-Vaxxer? The word “hilarious” doesn’t even begin to describe it. I must admit, though, he does make a good case in the early running:

Okay, I’m going to make it easy for the trolls.

I am the world’s #1 anti-vaxxer. Seriously, I deserve the title. Who else has come up with an idea for a FIVE YEAR MORATORIUM ON CHILDHOOD VACCINES as well as a plan for the COMPLETE DESTRUCTION OF PHARMA CONTROL OF MEDIA?

Yes, arguably only the world’s “#1 Antivaxer” could come up with an idea as utterly devoid of science, reason, and sanity as a five year moratorium on childhood vaccines. Antivax is a scientifically, intellectually, and morally bankrupt ideology, and the idea of a five year moratorium on childhood vaccines is as scientifically, intellectually, and morally bankrupt an idea as I’ve heard in a long time. Also, behold the power of ALL CAPS. With bold yet.

His delusions of grandeur get even more delusional, too:

I’ve been very disappointed in the trolls because they haven’t been reading Saul Alinsky’s, Rules for Radicals, specifically Rule #13, “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” The idea is that it’s easier to go after people than institutions. I mean, Alinsky did dedicate his book to Lucifer and the trolls do want to destroy the human race, so why aren’t they with the program?

I offer myself as the target to freeze, personalize, and polarize. Just think of me as the Jeff Goldblum character, Ian Malcom, in the first Jurassic Park movie, lighting off that flare so the T-Rex stops attacking the children and goes after him instead. The only difference is that the T-Rex is probably smarter then the pro-pharma trolls.

I really don’t think the trolls should consider that my ancestor was Martin Luther, the 16th century Protestant reformer who took on the all-powerful Catholic Church and not only escaped a burning at the stake, but is generally credited with sparking the Reformation and the Renaissance which gave birth to the modern era. I’m sure that family story is probably wrong.

Yes, and Martin Luther also contributed greatly to German anti-Semitism and was arguably a major influence on Nazi anti-Semitism. No, I’m not saying Kent Heckenlively is anti-Semitic. I don’t believe that he is. I do, however, believe that he is promoting an ideology that is potentially just as harmful as anti-Semitism, his antivaccine views. Also, I bring up Martin Luther’s virulent anti-Semitism to remind Mr. Heckenlively that he should perhaps be more careful in choosing the heros after whom he wants to pattern himself.

As for the rest, as usual, Heckenlively thinks way too highly of himself. He thinks that I and other pro-science advocates, for instance, are going to spend a lot of time going after him and his silly idea of a vaccine moratorium. Well, I have news for Mr. Heckenlively. Writing about him is the sort of thing I do on days when I don’t have a lot of time or thought to devote to blogging. In other words, he’s a very easy target. It takes me little effort at all to deconstruct Heckenlively’s claims and mock him, after which I rapidly forget about him and move on to far more important topics the following day.

He then concludes with a bravado-filled challenge:

Vaccines are safe! Let’s never question them again!

That really is your message. It’s a little like saying, rotary phones are great! Stop all forward progress! We would never have cellular phones.

You are the past. I am the future.

I am happy to go in front of Matt Lauer, Anderson Cooper, Jake Tapper, or any of those other pretty boy excuses for newsmen on networks that get up to 70% of their income from pharmaceutical companies – and take you on.

In fact, I even promise that if you ever do find the courage to take me on in an honest public debate, that I will fight you with half my brain tied behind my back.

If Heckenlively really were to “tie half his brain behind his back,” he probably couldn’t outargue a six year old.

Comments

  1. #1 Eric Lund
    August 8, 2017

    left-wing internet gatekeepers like Google, Facebook, YouTube and Twitter

    Not that we need any more evidence Adams is delusional, but how disconnected from reality do you have to be to think these corporations are “left-wing”? Unless, of course, you define “left-wing” as “those who do not agree with me”, which makes this claim an updated version of the “liberal media” canard. It says much more about Adams’ political views than it does those of Google, Facebook, YouTube, or Twitter.

  2. #2 Dorit Reiss
    August 8, 2017

    Well, on the bright side, Mr. Heckenlively seems to be perpetually optimistic about his chances and of good cheer, so maybe living within his skin isn’t as bad as what some of the other conspiracy theorists may be feeling.
    And on the even brighter side, as you say, this attempt to deprive children from protection from disease seems to have as much chance of success as his previous ones.

  3. #3 Dorit Reiss
    August 8, 2017

    @Eric Lund: This makes me think of the quote in Good end about one of the charactershatimg all Northernees. The book explained that by his definition of northerners he was standing on the South Pole.

    A little hard to have a left/right equivalent on a globe, though.

  4. #4 Michael J. Dochniak
    Iowa City at the moment
    August 8, 2017

    Orac writes,

    And, yes, civil war is coming, according to Mike Adams. I had to give up listening after about three or four minutes.

    MJD says,

    I reached about the 4:32 mark of the Mike Adams video and realized that my mind was wandering elsewhere about 95% of the time.

    Q. What’s the difference between an ORC and ORAC.

    A. ORC’s eat man flesh while ORAC simply detests the man flesh of Kent Heckenlively and Mike Adam.

    @Orac,

    Great read…

  5. #5 Chris Hickie
    August 8, 2017

    @ Eric–Mikey is delusional, but his distorted reality is always balanced by his greater greed for $$$. I think when he gets really dark like this that he is playing to a crowd that he feels he can milk for clicks and profit.

    Now Heckenlively….he’s ICD-10 level delusional without a doubt. And not very clever, either.

  6. #6 Denice Walter
    August 8, 2017

    I just read/ listened to Mikey and perused Bolen’s site. WTF.

    -btw- both MIkey and Null have talked about civil war and/ or social collapse since about 2008-9:
    in the wake of the financial crisis, I believe they feared people might stop buying their woo and thus had to get the fans excited so that they would stick with them. Both sites then became more political and speculated on the economy in typically ham handed ways. Both expanded into networks that mimic radio / television. Adams takes ads. Null’s site IS an ad for his nonsense.

    Characterising liberal beliefs about politicians being ‘angelic’ is profoundly unrealistic and exemplifies his black and white thinking ( or how he believes his fans think)

    Heckenlively’s inability to get large numbers of supporters illustrates what I’ve always believed about anti-vaxxers-
    there aren’t that many although we might see 50K or 60K likes for TMR or Vaccine Machine I assume that they get everyone they know to sign on – most of these people won’t sign a petition.

    Mikey may have 2 million plus fans but I wonder how he got them: someone at RI once wrote that if he gets your name/ e-mail you’re counted – even if someone signs on in order to access his material et al. I’m sure his history with manipulation supports my speculation.

    I have so much more about Mikey but at present he’s given me a headache. Ooo. that voice.

  7. #7 Eric Lund
    August 8, 2017

    A little hard to have a left/right equivalent on a globe, though.

    Not at all. You just have to have some fun with branch cuts, to use the technical mathematical term. For instance, there are those who claim that the easternmost point in the US is in Alaska, because the Aleutian Islands chain extends west of 180 degrees longitude. Or to take a more practical example: there has to be a line somewhere in the world where you skip a day either forward or backward (depending if you are traveling west or east); the International Date Line is the line countries have agreed to use for this purpose. I am of the opinion that the political spectrum has a similar feature (i.e., far right and far left meet at some point), but that’s a separate discussion.

    It is plausible that Mikey is so far to the right that anybody sane looks left-wing to him. I have been told by a self-identified member of Norway’s Conservative Party that were Bernie Sanders Norwegian, he would be considered a mainstream Conservative.

  8. #8 Christine Rose
    August 8, 2017

    ORAC > Gandalf.

    Eat that, Mikey.

  9. #9 Orac
    August 8, 2017

    Note my addendum. Heckenlively’s going even more full mental jacket on us.

  10. #10 Eric Lund
    August 8, 2017

    there aren’t that many although we might see 50K or 60K likes for TMR or Vaccine Machine I assume that they get everyone they know to sign on

    Serious question: how many of those are bots?

    I am not suggesting that TMR or even Mike Adams have created bot accounts. Adams probably doesn’t have the know-how to pull it off, and it’s even less likely anybody at TMR does. But some people working for Vladimir Putin certainly do: you may have seen a recent news item about a bunch of suspected pro-Trump bots having their Twitter accounts suspended. Given the political proclivities of the most vocal anti-vaxers these days (particularly people like Adams), it’s hardly a stretch to imagine bot accounts “liking” some of these posts as it would help them make more legitimate.

    Mikey may have 2 million plus fans but I wonder how he got them: someone at RI once wrote that if he gets your name/ e-mail you’re counted

    And I suspect you are counted once for each e-mail address of yours he has. People do change their e-mail addresses every now and then.

    I’ll illustrate by using myself as an example. There are four e-mail addresses I actively use: my home account, my actual work account, my “official” work address, and one provided via my undergraduate alma mater (the latter two both resolve to my actual work account). A fifth address, on my own personal domain, is currently inoperative because my domain name host can’t seem to handle e-mail correctly. I have used others in the past: a previous employer, and an old home account. The latter one changed not because I changed ISPs, but because the ISP was sold to another company, so my account of the form user[at]old_isp[dot]net became one of the form user[at]new_isp[dot]net, Another such change may be in my near future as I hear my current ISP is in merger talks with another company. Were I subscribed to Mikey’s newsletter under all of those e-mail addresses, he would probably consider me to be seven different subscribers, even as at least two of those addresses would generate bounce messages if he tried to send to them.

  11. #11 Dorit Reiss
    August 8, 2017

    Maybe he can get the #1 Comic Relief Anti-Vaxxer award.

    Did he tell Andrew Wakefield, Barbara Loe Fisher, and other more seriously harmful anti-vaccine activists about his new title?

  12. #12 Eric Lund
    August 8, 2017

    Well, I have news for Mr. Heckenlively. Writing about him is the sort of thing I do on days when I don’t have a lot of time or thought to devote to blogging. In other words, he’s a very easy target. It takes me little effort at all to deconstruct Heckenlively’s claims and mock him, after which I rapidly forget about him and move on to far more important topics the following day.

    Don’t sugar coat it, Orac. Tell us how you really feel.

  13. #13 Julian Frost
    Gauteng East Rand
    August 8, 2017

    …people like Orc, Dumb Dorritt, and Dr. Proffit…

    Is Heckenlively twelve or something?

  14. #14 Science Mom
    http://justthevax.blogspot.com/
    August 8, 2017

    Is Heckenlively twelve or something?

    I know right? And to think he’s a school teacher.

  15. #15 Chris Hickie
    August 8, 2017

    To tie half his brain behind his back would first require a microscope and some laser tweezers.

    Ah, well, that’ll do Ken, that’ll do.

  16. #16 brian
    Outside Crosby's labyrinth
    August 8, 2017

    Kent Heckenlively wrote:

    I really don’t think the trolls should consider that my ancestor was Martin Luther

    FWIW, the trolls should also refrain from considering that—although poor, pathetic Kent may not be from the noble line of Aragorn—he is also descended from Nefertiti, Confucius, Muhammad, and Charlemagne. Of course, as a high school biology teacher, Kent should have understood genetics well enough to know that before he wrote his silly screed, and he should have known that most of you were descended from Charlemagne, as well.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2002/05/the-royal-we/302497/

  17. #17 Zach
    August 8, 2017

    At best, he is a modern Don Quixote chasing after his equivalent of windmills…

  18. #18 herr doktor bimler
    August 8, 2017

    the quote in Good end about one of the characters hatimg all Northernees.
    Good Omens?
    Autocorrect is not our friend!

    • #19 Dorit Reiss
      August 8, 2017

      Yes, thank you! I’m a bit miffed I missed that. Thanks!

  19. #20 Jane Ostentatious
    August 8, 2017

    Half his brain tied behind his back – sounds very uncomfortable to me!

  20. #21 herr doktor bimler
    August 8, 2017

    tolerati of the delusional Left
    “Tolerati” is a word in the Adams vocabulary? The worst thing he can say about companies he dislikes is that they tolerate views other than his?

  21. #22 Denice Walter
    August 8, 2017

    To continue what I wrote before…

    I think that web woo-meisters like Mikey or Null, ardently welcome anti-vaxxers to their various websites, broadcasts and events because they know that these groups are obsessed with alt med theories and anti-governmental rabble rousing so they may pick up new customers for their dreck/ supplements. You will notice that posts about vaccines get a higher number of hits.

    In addition, they sell items of special interest to these partisans – films/ books about vaccines, autism, medical corruption; natural ‘cures’, supplies for preppers, water filters, superfoods etc.

    If you haven’t, take a look at Mikey’s ‘store’ at Natural News or Gary’s Vitamin Closet ( that’s the real name)

  22. #23 Mrs Woo
    Southwest of Wooville
    August 8, 2017

    I read things like this post and listen to the President’s (and his favorite alt-media supporters) pronouncements of deep-state overthrow, etc., and actually end up very worried for this country. Though these people might be in a statistical minority, in their world they are the last saviors of truth and virtue, and anything that is against their hero is a lie and they will do anything to protect him and the future of the movement.

    The hardest thing for me, though, is the many Evangelical leaders defending him at every turn. I was raised to believe these people wouldn’t lie. If they are insisting that Trump is an innocent victim of Satan trying to destroy the country, and Obama is amassing forces to take over the country, then where do I go?

  23. #24 Jane Ostentatious
    August 8, 2017

    Kent’s purported ancestor, Martin Luther, must have owned a Tardis, since the Renaissance begun in 14th century Italy, not 16th century Germany. But perhaps I’m nitpicking.

  24. #25 Panacea
    August 8, 2017

    Holy crap. Heckenlively is a biology school teacher????

    I had no idea. Poor kids.

  25. #26 Panacea
    August 8, 2017

    Jane: but the Protestant Reformation began in 16th century Germany, when Martin Luther nailed his 95 Theses onto a church door.

  26. #27 Jane Ostentatious
    August 8, 2017

    Yes I know, but in the addendum, Kent claims Luther sparked both the Reformation AND the Renaissance. Quite the busy guy.
    Next Luther will have invented the internet…

  27. #28 Narad
    August 9, 2017

    Ah, Kent, it was theses, not feces, that were nailed to the door.

    Something tells me he would lose a game of Table Talk, though.

  28. #29 Narad
    August 9, 2017

    That’s why it’s time to regulate Google, Facebook and Twitter as public utilities.

    So, wait, they’re going to get to install smart meters and roll trucks around the neighborhood? I’m confused by this proposal.

  29. #30 Narad
    August 9, 2017

    It’s a little like saying, rotary phones are great! Stop all forward progress! We would never have cellular phones.

    Pitiful, just pitiful.

  30. #31 Jane Ostentatious
    August 9, 2017

    Narad, I wish I’d thought of that pun first.

    If you cannot trust the government, why would you want to have Google, Facebook or Twitter public utilities? Not strong on logic.

  31. #32 StrangerInAStrangeLand
    August 9, 2017

    Hmmm, I wonder what Mike Adams and the other prominent figures in the antivax movement think about Heckenlively’s claim to be the No. 1? I mean, loosing the crown count could cut into their fame and profit and I guess they would not take this lightly. Could be fun.

  32. #33 Mrs Grimble
    August 9, 2017

    Brian @16: And if you have any Asiatic ancestry you probably posess some of Genghis Khan’s genes – at least according to recent genetic research. I can’t find the link to check, but it appears that the legend about him having sex with a virgin every night may have some substance to it.

  33. #34 Chris Hickie
    August 9, 2017

    In other news, Congressman Posey appears to have introduced a bill in Congress “To direct the Secretary of Health and Human Services to conduct or support a comprehensive study comparing total health outcomes, including risk of autism, in vaccinated populations in the United States with such outcomes in unvaccinated populations in the United States, and for other purposes.” ( http://tinyurl.com/y8lm7oev )

    Because, of course, there are absolutely no comprehensive studies out there on this (s/o). I wonder which of the wealth AVers gave him more money.

  34. #35 Dangerous Bacon
    August 9, 2017

    DW: “I think that web woo-meisters like Mikey or Null, ardently welcome anti-vaxxers to their various websites, broadcasts and events because they know that these groups are obsessed with alt med theories and anti-governmental rabble rousing so they may pick up new customers for their dreck/ supplements…they sell items of special interest to these partisans”

    Adams isn’t even subtle about it. In an NN article claiming the CDC and other “nefarious actors” are behind a cyberattack on his little empire, he suggests the public response should include:

    “Help support the Health Ranger Store, which provides you the world’s most laboratory-scrutinized, ultra-clean superfoods and nutrients”

    What the CDC, WHO, Bill Gates, Cthulu and “Orc” should do is obtain some of the NN store’s “ultra-clean” products and run tests on them to document what heavy metals, glyphosate etc. are to be found therein. It’d be fun to see his public and competitors demanding “safe” NN products, like the loons currently protesting Ben & Jerry’s ice cream.

    • #36 Orac
      August 9, 2017

      Oh, yes. I noticed that now Adams has gone from claiming that Facebook is “censoring” him to claiming that he’s the target of a massive DDoS attack initiated by…wait for it…the CDC! How does he come to this conclusion? Behold:

      The CDC is a military organization run by an Air Force Major known as Dr. Brenda Fitzgerald, M.D. She served at the Wurtsmith Air Force Strategic Air Command (SAC) Base in Michigan and at Andrews Air Force Base in Washington, D.C. Why is this significant? Because the United States Air Force runs Cyber Command, an infrastructure engineered to carry out acts of cyber warfare against intended targets.

  35. #37 Panacea
    August 9, 2017

    It’ll die in committee. Once someone points out that research costs money, Grover Norquist will send nasty notes to the Republicans in Congress to vote NO.

    Jane: oops! Missed that. Thanks.

    Re genetics: Hm. My family has claimed for years that we’re descended from Robert the Bruce. If I believe this, it might actually be true. But then again, so is everyone else, so the snobs in the family still need to just shut up.

  36. #38 Julian Frost
    Gauteng East Rand
    August 9, 2017

    Speaking of ancestry, it has been calculated that Europeans inherited 2-4% of their genome from Neanderthals. In addition, there is evidence that humans interbred with the Denisovian hominids.
    Boasting of your ancestry is racist, not to mention lame. As Abraham Lincoln is purported to have said, “I am not interested in the man his father was, I am interested in the man he will be.”

  37. #39 Denice Walter
    August 9, 2017

    @ Dangerous Bacon:

    What’s very funny about these guys is that they masquerade as ‘just folks’ – regular middle class people whilst living on estates or ranches that must be valued in the millions.

    They don’t admit their earnings though.

    Null actually shows his estates and uses them to conduct ‘retreats’ – i.e. thinly disguised alt med/ energy healing in a resort setting.

    So far I haven’t been able to find photos of Adams’ current Austin area home- he only videos ducks and geese- so I assume it is not as humble as he says. He did show his Ecuadorian hacienda/ ‘food forest’ which was for sale and opulent for the area. He bragged that locals would work for him for almost nothing.

    Recently some business news reported about his ( co-called) lab and that he was expanding his warehousing or suchlike.

  38. #40 Narad
    August 9, 2017

    Because the United States Air Force runs Cyber Command

    I’m sure this will come as a great surprise to the Navy admiral who commands it. I don’t think Mikey gets how this organizational chart works.

  39. #41 Panacea
    August 9, 2017

    Oh, good lord. So he thinks that an OB GYN is out to get him because she was stationed at an Air Force base where Cyber Command is located?

    Cyber Command wasn’t formed until 2009. She would have left the Air Force long before then, probably because she either decided not to go career or she didn’t make rank. It’s hard to tell when she joined the military but it looks like it was probably in the 1980’s or 90’s at the latest. If she left with a rank of major she was in probably about 10-15 years depending on how fast she got promoted. She was probably out before 9/11 happened is my guess.

    There used to be a full service hospital at Andrews until some time in the 90’s early 2000’s when the Air Force downsized its military hospital facilities at most of its military bases. Bethesda took over the inpatient services. I actually trained at Malcom Grow Hospital, in my LPN program, in the mid 80’s. I did a Med Surg, Peds, and OB rotation there and had a great experience.

    The food in the hospital cafeteria was fantastic, and you could get seconds.

    Mikey, as usual, is talking out of his a**. He really should talk to someone about the voices he must be hearing based on what he’s writing.

  40. #42 Narad
    August 9, 2017

    Oh, good lord. So he thinks that an OB GYN is out to get him because she was stationed at an Air Force base where Cyber Command is located?

    Fort Meade is an Army base.

  41. #43 Eric Lund
    August 9, 2017

    Orac@36: Wow. That isn’t even coherent enough to be considered a conspiracy theory.

  42. #44 MikeMa
    August 9, 2017

    Ft Meade is also at or near where the NSA does its thing too.

  43. #45 Johnny
    127.0.0.1
    August 9, 2017

    So he thinks that an OB GYN is out to get him because she was stationed at an Air Force base where Cyber Command is located?

    It’s worse than that – if you look at where the AF parts of Cyber Command are, Wurtsmith and Andrews aren’t included. Also, Wurtsmith was closed in 1993, 16 years before Cyber Command was created.

    See the list of locations at the bottom of –
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-Fourth_Air_Force

  44. #46 Alain
    August 9, 2017

    Orac@36,

    I read that book last month:

    https://www.amazon.com/NSA-National-Security-Claude-Delesse-ebook/dp/B01CYODVPK/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1502297066&sr=1-1&keywords=NSA+%3A+National+Security+agency

    Never in this potentially well researched (in my opinion, I’m no expert there) it is mentioned about any national security agency to have any discussion whatsoever with the CDC.

    Alain

  45. #47 Politicalguineapig
    August 9, 2017

    Mrs. Woo: The hardest thing for me, though, is the many Evangelical leaders defending him at every turn. I was raised to believe these people wouldn’t lie.

    That’s really odd. My mother was sort of Lutheran, my dad never went to church much as a kid (Grandpa was liable to get the pastor into a debate) and I was the only kid that was baptized and briefly went to Sunday school when I was fivish or so. Consequently, I grew up viewing the “religious” people as a sort of odd subspecies and thought for the longest time that the commandment was ‘thou shalt bear false witness.'” Evangelicals have been lying about everything for basically forever.

  46. #48 shay simmons
    August 9, 2017

    So he thinks that an OB GYN is out to get him because she was stationed at an Air Force base where Cyber Command is located?

    Not to mention, in the Air Force (like the rest of the DOD), majors barely command respect.

  47. #49 Old Rockin' Dave
    A town without pity, but with a strong sense of irony.
    August 11, 2017

    “he should perhaps be more careful in choosing the heros after whom he wants to pattern himself.”
    That goes for George Patton too. Patton was an unhinged anti-Semite and general racist. He tormented his troops with what is variously known as “Mickey Mouse” and “chickenshit”, an exaggerated adherence to petty and unrealistic regulations. He thought death in battle was the most glorious death possible and didn’t quite get that none of his troops shared that sentiment – they said of Old Blood and Guts, “Yeah, your blood, his guts”. He threw away troops on mad missions, such as the poorly planned and equipped doomed raid into Czechoslovakia to rescue officer POWs, one of whom by cosmic coincidence happened to be his son-in-law. He was removed from command of the US occupation zone in Germany for declaring that the Nazi party was just another political party just like the Republicans and Democrats. His last harebrained scheme was to rearm the Wehrmacht and join them in an all-out war with those racially inferior Soviets. Never mind that most US troops just wanted to go home, and most German troops had no desire to return to the Eastern front after four years of misery and horror.
    All in all, not a great role model.

  48. #50 Old Rockin' Dave
    August 11, 2017

    We know that ancient humans mated with Homo neanderthalensis, Homo denisovensis, and Homo heidelburgensis.
    I guess our ancestors were just a big bunch of Homo-sexuals.

  49. #51 Old Rockin' Dave
    August 11, 2017

    Jane Ostentatious, it should be easy for Kent to fight with half his brain tied behind his back.
    From the evidence so far, behind his back is where his brain is already.

  50. #52 Julian Frost
    Gauteng East Rand
    August 12, 2017

    @ORD #50, LOL!

  51. #53 Denice Walter
    August 13, 2017

    OT but Adams reveals who he really is

    Yesterday and today, Natural News

    Mikey responds to the events in Charlottesville

    Take a peek.
    Warning – it might make you sick.

  52. #54 Johnny
    127.0.0.1
    August 31, 2017

    Now, some people have made comments along the lines of, “You failed because your White House petition only got a little more than 7,000 signatures in the 30 day period.”

    A little perspective is in order…

    My first White House petition was for Suramin as a treatment for autism. Personally, I think that is the breakthrough treatment for autism and will END the epidemic. That White House Petition got about 700 signatures. Petition #2 got more than 7,000 signatures.

    Want to take any wagers on the final number for Petition #3? Petition #4? Petition #5?

    I’ll give you my prediction. Each of them will get maybe 7,000 to 10,000 signatures. Kent Heckenlively has almost certainly hit (or come very close) to his ceiling.

    To get to 7,000 signatures, they are going to have to get 1,901 today.

    I wonder how (if at all) Ken will spin this.

  53. #55 Johnny
    127.0.0.1
    August 31, 2017

    Oops – I must have pulled up a cached page from a coupla days ago. The current total is 6,826, so they need 174 to reach 7000.

    Or maybe Ken had a bunch of bots ready to go in case this happened.

  54. #56 Johnny
    127.0.0.1
    August 31, 2017

    Ah, the petition did get a bump today (I think it’s today)
    http://bolenreport.com/heckenlively-opens-talks-trump-regarding-aid-australian-rebels/

    Yep, Heckenlively talked to Trump. Well, a Trump action figure. But that’s the same thing, isn’t it?

    I wonder if it talked back.

    6876 signatures on the petition

  55. #57 Johnny
    August 31, 2017

    The petition did get a shot in the arm (heh) today.
    http://bolenreport.com/heckenlively-opens-talks-trump-regarding-aid-australian-rebels/

    Yes, it seems Heckenlively talked to Trump. Well, a Trump action figure. But that’s all perfectly normal, isn’t it”

    6884 signatures on the petition.

  56. #58 Johnny
    127.0.0.1
    August 31, 2017

    Ah, the petition did get a bump today (I think it’s today)
    http://bolenreport.com/heckenlively-opens-talks-trump-regarding-aid-australian-rebels/

    Yep, Heckenlively talked to Trump. Well, a Trump action figure. But that’s the same thing, isn’t it?

    I wonder if it talked back.

    6912 signatures on the petition

  57. #59 herr doktor bimler
    August 31, 2017

    Suramin as a treatment for autism. Personally, I think that is the breakthrough treatment for autism

    Which breakthrough treatment is this? The 3rd? 4th? 5th? How many times has Heckenlively cured his son now? Ah well, when life gives you lemons an autistic son, make lemonade you have a guineapig for experiments.

    Suramin is Naviaux’s schtik, founded entirely on yet another feckin’ mouse model of autism which even Mady Hornig thinks is whack. He was mainly interested in antipurinergic treatment for mitochondrial dysfunction, and spun it as “autism cure” because that’s what his funding source wants to hear.

    Suramin is NOT A HAPPY FUN TOY.

    There is a greater than 50% chance of adrenal cortical damage, but only a smaller proportion will require lifelong corticosteroid replacement.

    http://eusa-riddled.blogspot.co.nz/2013/04/why-is-mouse-that-spins.html

  58. #60 Narad
    August 31, 2017

    I must have pulled up a cached page from a coupla days ago. The current total is 6,826, so they need 174 to reach 7000.

    It was at 6809 when I checked this morning right after seeing your comment, I think, and then “jumped” to 6814. A veritable groundswell.

  59. #61 Johnny
    127.0.0.1
    September 1, 2017

    The petition is closed now, and the final tally is 7,132 SIGNED. The previous petition drew 7,328, so 196 fewer.

    I wonder what Kent’s Trump doll will say about that.